Other than the blatant sexism, virtue signaling and a slight amount of racism, hmmmm I wonder why being told men are terrible people for just being men while offering false stereotypes that are already overwhelmingly being pushed by sexist women every single day is so upsetting, your right men should just kill ourselfs apparently society thinks we are all raping killing machines that make it our life goal to harass women... fuck off
But this shit is all real life stuff that actually happens, as I detailed in the take and other answers, I’ve witnessed this stuff time and again, and it was even more so when I was your age. This is NOT fabricated. At best, as I said, it’s exaggerated for the point of quickly translating on film to the viewer, so it will deal in extremes. I understand some shit is a little extra in 2019, I’m not saying that, and I hate the PC Police as much as the next guy. But I was raised to believe that a CRUCIAL, INDISPENSABLE criterion of being a man is defending women in distress, particularly from other men. Like if you see a girl get slapped or groped and you just walk by with your hands in your pocket, please put your Man Card in the paper shredder, and get yourself a towel to bite on, because we’re taking your penis too.
I don’t know, I think there’s just an entire facet of this ad that you guys are totally missing, and you’re just letting your feelings be too hurt to process it. NO ONE said you’re a rapist or any of that shit, rape wasn’t even addressed in the video. But this is shit I worry about happening to my little cousins every day, not because I saw this commercial, but because I’ve seen it in real life. I had a friend I’ve kind of distanced myself from because we would be out, and he’s taking creepshots of high school girls, and any women, but specifically alarming was the high school girls, and he’s fuckin’ 40. I guess theoretically I should’ve smashed his shit up like I would’ve a random guy, that’s on me, but I think that’s undeniably creepy behavior and in line with some of the assertions made in the ad.
Naw the video was saying men aren’t held responsible for our actions, yet men serve 63% more prison time than women for the same crime, it’s acrually ileagal for men to rape women (its completely legal for women to rape men) and men actually do protect women very often (I personally knocked out a close friend because I found out he was beating his wife) these are worn out stereotypes and it blatantly ignores that women do commit domestic violence (about 40 percent of REPORTED domestic violence has the female as the aggressor and men are less likely to report it so it more like 50/50) I’ve been attacked by women in my life personally, been hit with weapons and sent to the hospital This add is incredibly sexist because it plays on harmful stereotypes and all that does is spread hate and make these exact issues much much worse
Seems everyone was offended by it, otherwise I’d have just been like “hey, good on ya, Gillette”, and moved on with my life. It’s just the blow back that I don’t get, I just can’t imagine actually being offended by this.
Because Gillette thinks there's something fundamentally wrong with men, manhood, and how we act when in reality there isn't anything wrong with either. So they can fuck off. They sell razor blades, a luxury that I have a zillion different options for. I just switched to Dollar Shave Club. Gillette can choke on that $8 billion they lost.
So your contention is that none of those things happen? Because I’ve witnessed all of those things happening myself, in person, multiple times in most cases. So they didn’t just make the shit up out of thin air, you know? That’s my point of the whole thing. None of those behaviors are ok, and they all happen, not from ALL men, but we should all be better in standing up when we see it coming from other dudes. Do you REALLY think none of that is a real problem, either in it being a problem, or are contending none of it happens in reality? Because I would beg to differ based on my personal experience.
They did just make shit up out of thin air, because there's nothing wrong with men. Sometimes bad people do bad things, whoopty doo. That's not gender exclusive. So Gillette can fuck off and choke on that $8 billion they lost. And I don't give a damn how much you beg to differ. There's nothing wrong with men. We need all the masculinity and manliness we can get now-a-days, and Gillette ain't it.
So you’re saying male behavior on the whole, even the ugly side, is totally ok and needs no addressing? You’re cool with people doing that shit in real life to the women you care about? Because you can have your head in the sand all you want, as I detailed before, this shit DOES happen, and it’s happened in front of or been perpetrated by me, in the specific case of fighting and chasing someone down and beating them. I could probably be better there. I was raised (and honestly never felt like I needed to be told) to be respectful of women, not in a white knight way where they can do no wrong, but if you see some asshole getting handsy or making a woman uncomfortable, THAT’S where your manliness really kicks in, and you step in and try to make sure that guy never looks the same again, just on principle.
What disturbs me about your answer is that it’s not just ignoring real life issues, it’s denying they even exist. You can say that all you want but that’s simply not factual. And furthermore, you contend that they’re a healthy part of masculinity? Does it matter at all to you that women are made uncomfortable by most of these things? What would your mother say, bro? Women being filmed against their will: witnessed it. Women getting catcalled or over aggressively approached: witnessed it. Women being spoken to condescendingly: witnessed it. Fighting other dudes over dumb shit: DONE IT. Chasing someone down and beating them: DONE IT. I don’t consider myself a bad person on the whole for the stuff I’m guilty of, but maybe it’s not a terrible thing to be called into question for that and have it suggested that maybe it’d be better if I didn’t. The female stuff, that’s up to them to say what they deem acceptable or not for themselves. I just think it’s closed-minded to actually be told from a female perspective that these things that they experience bother them, and for men to be like “nahhhh, that’s not your experience.”
I couldn’t care less about the financials of Gillette, all the online options were going to crush them anyway. It doesn’t matter to me that it was a commercial, it could’ve been a PSA, it’s more that I just think that’s pretty deplorable and ignorant to deny the veracity of and shrug off the seriousness of these REAL issues. I’d need a lot of convincing and Men In Black mind-erasing to think otherwise.
"So you’re saying male behavior on the whole, even the ugly side, is totally ok and needs no addressing?" That's exactly what I'm saying. You're being asinine by insisting that all men are responsible for the actions of a few men. The only people responsible for the actions of men that harass women are those specific men who choose to harass women, but they do not represent men as a whole. NO MAN DOES. So no, there is absolutely nothing wrong with men. If you have the burning desire to go and correct men who harass women, go find men who harass women and correct them. The rest of us have no time for you.
The point is Gillette makes razors and shaving cream so how the fuck is a Gillette commercial the right place to talk about this stuff? And if you pay attention they lost a lot of money because of these ads.
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I agree with you. It seriously baffles me that so many men are getting defensive over this. Chances are they’re just guilty of these things and don’t want to take the heat for it.
If every single time a bank got robbed, I felt the need to go up to you and imply that you did it or else it was all your fault, how long would it take for you to call the cops on me for harassing you?
But there's no cop that all men can call to come and protect us from this kind of harassment. So imagine if I was harassing you for being a bankrobber every day, all day long, and there was nothing you could do to stop me.
Would you still want to buy some simple everyday product from me, if I was selling it, in addition to harassing you? Or would you at the very least not buy any products from me?
@Bananaman177 No ones saying you did anything, the ad is just saying you have the choice to let it happen or to do something about it. You can be a man who witnesses these things and doesn’t do anything or you can be a man who takes charge and stops things that shouldn’t be happening.
Yeah, I'm a pretty nice, friendly guy and most people are nice and friendly back. Sorry you live in the big city or wherever. I've heard some real horror stories, that's why I stay away from cities.
But here's the other side, have you ever seen any company going after women for their toxic femininity?
Women do bad shit too, but everybody always wants to pretend that only men are bad and that all men are just as bad as the worst men.
That's what I, personally, am fucking sick and goddamned tired of. And I'm sure it's what most men are sick and fucking tired of, listen, I've been getting crap for being a toxic man since I was in fucking Kindergarten. And I've never done that and neither does anybody else I've ever even fucking heard of. I'm just always getting accused of it, and I'm sick of it.
As soon as I catch just a whiff of that shit, it makes me want to hoist the black flag and start slitting throats.
That's why Gillette has lost 8 billion dollars for P&G since that commercial came out.
As far as toxic femininity goes half of those things that were listed are things I’ve seen both genders do nearly equally. Toxic femininity exists, you’re not wrong, but some of those examples aren’t great. You’re also right in saying that it’s needs to be talked about more. I’ve seen celebrities and stuff talking about it, but I’ll admit that it needs more discussion.
The problem is that as soon as we start to say things we don’t appreciate men doing many tend to jump to the conclusion that we’re pointing fingers at all men. So when you get defensive instead of owning up to the fact that, yeah some men need to be called out for this, it makes you look bad. I’m just saying. Your second to last paragraph kinda furthers my point.
Not all guys are like that, so I think that's what offended people. But you got to say all those little kids at the end where cute.
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its a razor commercial, with barely any razors. that "upset" me. show the product not some stupid unrelated message. they need to go back hot guys shaving please
That fact that it doesn't apply to me doesn't mean you're not a moron. MyTakes on G@G are just self-indulgent public masturbation. I should know, I've posted several, myself.
Would you feel better if I went anonymous? I’ll switch it right now. I’m not here for the kudos, I don’t even fucking know you people. This is strictly calling something how I see it.
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Gillette assumes that all men are bad and need to be preached too.
I can just see the smarmy feminists who had the Gillette company by the balls and told them how high to jump.
I don't need to be preached by the SJW who directed this commercial.
Yeah that seems to be how a lot of you guys took it, I guess I’m just not seeing that as the message at all. Thanks for the input👍
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Gilette, Nike... what's next? Nescafe?
They take offense like it's oxygen. At this point I derive pleasure from offending people with my charisma.
Hahaha
Other than the blatant sexism, virtue signaling and a slight amount of racism, hmmmm I wonder why being told men are terrible people for just being men while offering false stereotypes that are already overwhelmingly being pushed by sexist women every single day is so upsetting, your right men should just kill ourselfs apparently society thinks we are all raping killing machines that make it our life goal to harass women... fuck off
But this shit is all real life stuff that actually happens, as I detailed in the take and other answers, I’ve witnessed this stuff time and again, and it was even more so when I was your age. This is NOT fabricated. At best, as I said, it’s exaggerated for the point of quickly translating on film to the viewer, so it will deal in extremes. I understand some shit is a little extra in 2019, I’m not saying that, and I hate the PC Police as much as the next guy. But I was raised to believe that a CRUCIAL, INDISPENSABLE criterion of being a man is defending women in distress, particularly from other men. Like if you see a girl get slapped or groped and you just walk by with your hands in your pocket, please put your Man Card in the paper shredder, and get yourself a towel to bite on, because we’re taking your penis too.
I don’t know, I think there’s just an entire facet of this ad that you guys are totally missing, and you’re just letting your feelings be too hurt to process it. NO ONE said you’re a rapist or any of that shit, rape wasn’t even addressed in the video. But this is shit I worry about happening to my little cousins every day, not because I saw this commercial, but because I’ve seen it in real life. I had a friend I’ve kind of distanced myself from because we would be out, and he’s taking creepshots of high school girls, and any women, but specifically alarming was the high school girls, and he’s fuckin’ 40. I guess theoretically I should’ve smashed his shit up like I would’ve a random guy, that’s on me, but I think that’s undeniably creepy behavior and in line with some of the assertions made in the ad.
Naw the video was saying men aren’t held responsible for our actions, yet men serve 63% more prison time than women for the same crime, it’s acrually ileagal for men to rape women (its completely legal for women to rape men) and men actually do protect women very often (I personally knocked out a close friend because I found out he was beating his wife) these are worn out stereotypes and it blatantly ignores that women do commit domestic violence (about 40 percent of REPORTED domestic violence has the female as the aggressor and men are less likely to report it so it more like 50/50) I’ve been attacked by women in my life personally, been hit with weapons and sent to the hospital
This add is incredibly sexist because it plays on harmful stereotypes and all that does is spread hate and make these exact issues much much worse
Noone was offended by it. It's just a retarded advertisement and horrible from a business standpoint
Seems everyone was offended by it, otherwise I’d have just been like “hey, good on ya, Gillette”, and moved on with my life. It’s just the blow back that I don’t get, I just can’t imagine actually being offended by this.
Because Gillette thinks there's something fundamentally wrong with men, manhood, and how we act when in reality there isn't anything wrong with either. So they can fuck off. They sell razor blades, a luxury that I have a zillion different options for. I just switched to Dollar Shave Club. Gillette can choke on that $8 billion they lost.
So your contention is that none of those things happen? Because I’ve witnessed all of those things happening myself, in person, multiple times in most cases. So they didn’t just make the shit up out of thin air, you know? That’s my point of the whole thing. None of those behaviors are ok, and they all happen, not from ALL men, but we should all be better in standing up when we see it coming from other dudes. Do you REALLY think none of that is a real problem, either in it being a problem, or are contending none of it happens in reality? Because I would beg to differ based on my personal experience.
I mean, if harassing women is a fundamental aspect of manhood...
They did just make shit up out of thin air, because there's nothing wrong with men. Sometimes bad people do bad things, whoopty doo. That's not gender exclusive. So Gillette can fuck off and choke on that $8 billion they lost. And I don't give a damn how much you beg to differ. There's nothing wrong with men. We need all the masculinity and manliness we can get now-a-days, and Gillette ain't it.
So you’re saying male behavior on the whole, even the ugly side, is totally ok and needs no addressing? You’re cool with people doing that shit in real life to the women you care about? Because you can have your head in the sand all you want, as I detailed before, this shit DOES happen, and it’s happened in front of or been perpetrated by me, in the specific case of fighting and chasing someone down and beating them. I could probably be better there. I was raised (and honestly never felt like I needed to be told) to be respectful of women, not in a white knight way where they can do no wrong, but if you see some asshole getting handsy or making a woman uncomfortable, THAT’S where your manliness really kicks in, and you step in and try to make sure that guy never looks the same again, just on principle.
What disturbs me about your answer is that it’s not just ignoring real life issues, it’s denying they even exist. You can say that all you want but that’s simply not factual. And furthermore, you contend that they’re a healthy part of masculinity? Does it matter at all to you that women are made uncomfortable by most of these things? What would your mother say, bro? Women being filmed against their will: witnessed it. Women getting catcalled or over aggressively approached: witnessed it. Women being spoken to condescendingly: witnessed it. Fighting other dudes over dumb shit: DONE IT. Chasing someone down and beating them: DONE IT. I don’t consider myself a bad person on the whole for the stuff I’m guilty of, but maybe it’s not a terrible thing to be called into question for that and have it suggested that maybe it’d be better if I didn’t. The female stuff, that’s up to them to say what they deem acceptable or not for themselves. I just think it’s closed-minded to actually be told from a female perspective that these things that they experience bother them, and for men to be like “nahhhh, that’s not your experience.”
I just keep coming...
... back to “what would your mother say?”
I couldn’t care less about the financials of Gillette, all the online options were going to crush them anyway. It doesn’t matter to me that it was a commercial, it could’ve been a PSA, it’s more that I just think that’s pretty deplorable and ignorant to deny the veracity of and shrug off the seriousness of these REAL issues. I’d need a lot of convincing and Men In Black mind-erasing to think otherwise.
"So you’re saying male behavior on the whole, even the ugly side, is totally ok and needs no addressing?" That's exactly what I'm saying. You're being asinine by insisting that all men are responsible for the actions of a few men. The only people responsible for the actions of men that harass women are those specific men who choose to harass women, but they do not represent men as a whole. NO MAN DOES. So no, there is absolutely nothing wrong with men. If you have the burning desire to go and correct men who harass women, go find men who harass women and correct them. The rest of us have no time for you.
Alright, fair enough. We just have different values I guess.
It's irrelevant.
No issue with the video but I felt like I was watching a prevent hate ad.
Nothing to do with razors.
Fair enough👍
I think guys lost it cause they felt attack for being men.. but I don't know it was whole mess. I think a lot guys still buy the stuff at walmart.
The point is Gillette makes razors and shaving cream so how the fuck is a Gillette commercial the right place to talk about this stuff? And if you pay attention they lost a lot of money because of these ads.
I agree with you. It seriously baffles me that so many men are getting defensive over this. Chances are they’re just guilty of these things and don’t want to take the heat for it.
Or else they're innocent and they're tired of being falsely accused, you muttonhead.
@Bananaman177 How did that ad falsely accuse any of the men watching? What?
By a little something called "implication."
If every single time a bank got robbed, I felt the need to go up to you and imply that you did it or else it was all your fault, how long would it take for you to call the cops on me for harassing you?
But there's no cop that all men can call to come and protect us from this kind of harassment. So imagine if I was harassing you for being a bankrobber every day, all day long, and there was nothing you could do to stop me.
Would you still want to buy some simple everyday product from me, if I was selling it, in addition to harassing you? Or would you at the very least not buy any products from me?
@Bananaman177 No ones saying you did anything, the ad is just saying you have the choice to let it happen or to do something about it. You can be a man who witnesses these things and doesn’t do anything or you can be a man who takes charge and stops things that shouldn’t be happening.
I've never personally witnessed any man acting the way men are portrayed in this commercial.
I've literally NEVER seen anything like that happen in real life.
@Bananaman177 You must live a nice life because unfortunately I’ve witnessed most of that.
Yeah, I'm a pretty nice, friendly guy and most people are nice and friendly back. Sorry you live in the big city or wherever. I've heard some real horror stories, that's why I stay away from cities.
But here's the other side, have you ever seen any company going after women for their toxic femininity?
Women do bad shit too, but everybody always wants to pretend that only men are bad and that all men are just as bad as the worst men.
That's what I, personally, am fucking sick and goddamned tired of. And I'm sure it's what most men are sick and fucking tired of, listen, I've been getting crap for being a toxic man since I was in fucking Kindergarten. And I've never done that and neither does anybody else I've ever even fucking heard of. I'm just always getting accused of it, and I'm sick of it.
As soon as I catch just a whiff of that shit, it makes me want to hoist the black flag and start slitting throats.
That's why Gillette has lost 8 billion dollars for P&G since that commercial came out.
@Bananaman177 I’m from a small town but alright.
As far as toxic femininity goes half of those things that were listed are things I’ve seen both genders do nearly equally. Toxic femininity exists, you’re not wrong, but some of those examples aren’t great. You’re also right in saying that it’s needs to be talked about more. I’ve seen celebrities and stuff talking about it, but I’ll admit that it needs more discussion.
The problem is that as soon as we start to say things we don’t appreciate men doing many tend to jump to the conclusion that we’re pointing fingers at all men. So when you get defensive instead of owning up to the fact that, yeah some men need to be called out for this, it makes you look bad. I’m just saying. Your second to last paragraph kinda furthers my point.
Also, what did people say to you in kindergarten?
Not all guys are like that, so I think that's what offended people. But you got to say all those little kids at the end where cute.
its a razor commercial, with barely any razors. that "upset" me. show the product not some stupid unrelated message. they need to go back hot guys shaving please
Lmao, keep it simple
That Gillette commercial. Bull@#&! That wasn't supposed to be made.
Conservatives are snowflakes who think that a shaving company can tell them what to do.
Because men tired of being told they are rapists, killers and pedophiles.
I keep watching and I don’t see any instances of rape, murder, and pedophilia. Is there an extended Director’s Cut I’m missing?🤔
At first I thought it was a joke. The ad made me cringe.
I remember there was a lot of controversy surrounding that
I wasn't offended. You're a moron.
“Go fuck yourself, if applicable”
If it doesn’t apply to you...✌️
That fact that it doesn't apply to me doesn't mean you're not a moron. MyTakes on G@G are just self-indulgent public masturbation. I should know, I've posted several, myself.
Would you feel better if I went anonymous? I’ll switch it right now. I’m not here for the kudos, I don’t even fucking know you people. This is strictly calling something how I see it.
You really need this explained to you?