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Feminism: An Ideology Full Of Contradictions (Page 2)
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It’s a certain demographic of women who really care so much about what a small demographic of loser men are saying… Due to the fact they are probably those types of women….
Most women are like “okay cool” sure if someone’s spewing that nonsense call them out. But they aren’t going to sit there and obsess over it either.
Feminism is inherently sexist! You can't be for "equal rights" and focus on one side.
During first and second wave society itself would favour men and defend men, so feminism balanced it all out. Now society mostly defends women's rights actually and on top of that you got feminism, which becomes man hating.
Society needs, along with math science, language, mainstream education in psychology, because most have no idea how, why, or what motivates their actions, how to recognize, or even perceive biases, most only know how they feel, and want pain gone, often with far less consideration to others' beliefs, perspectives, and circumstances than they give themselves.
The problem with feminism is that those that fear it made it out to be some sort of monster. True feminism is just wanting equality. , same work, same pay. Same opportunities in life. Don’t treat woman like they are just something to have sex with. Agree with your post, except that you are a feminist , you believe in treating women like you want your self treated.
@Philyyouup That’s a false dichotomy, I am not a feminist I’m an egalitarian. I believe in true equality for everyone.
Just because there a few good feminists doesn’t mean the feminist movement as a whole is morally good.
Tell me, do you think that just because there were a few good Nazis like Oskar Schindler, that the Nazi regime was morally good?
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@Philyouup I made it perfectly clear in the first italicized paragraph that you don’t have to be a feminist to believe in equal rights between males and females. I don’t consider myself a feminist but I do believe in true equality between males and females because politics are not “either this or that”.
Even statistics show that most people don’t consider themselves feminists but still believe in equality.
www.google.com/.../feminist-gender-equality-poll
womenintheworld.com/.../
Ok your not a feminist. And all feminists are evil. Happy now? Feminist are not Nazis. Apparently you fear that term like the others that demonized it. I didn’t mean to trigger ya big boy.
@Philyouup Whoever said I fear the term “feminist” that’s a baseless assumption on your part, I simply know that the feminist movement has deteriorated into a militant extremist ideology. Only a few feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers are what we can call “good feminists”.
But once again as I said, politics aren’t “either this or that”. I don’t consider myself a feminist but I still believe in true equality for both males and females. It isn’t that hard to understand, read the two links in my previous reply if you still don’t get my point.
Couldn't have written any better, everything you said is spot on.
Nothing left for me to say as you've been rather through except thst women are walking ilogical contradictions.
Yeah, that's very well said. You weren't right on everything, but close enough.
One thing I have frequently seen is an attempt to promote equality of outcome, but only in high-status jobs like CEOs. Simultaneously to this, shaming women who decide they want to stay at home and be homemakers
This is true of any large movement. NOthing is ever monolithic with one idea. It can't be because it represents too many different women. Fairness is the goal. That's the big picture.
Karl Plagge is recognized as righteous among the nations. Does that mean the Nazis as a whole were “morally good”? Of course not.
Same goes with the 4th wave feminists, just cause there are a few good feminists who mean well like Christina Hoff Sommers, does not mean the feminist movement as a whole is morally good.
I think you're looking at a few extremists as representing the movement as a whole. The movement is a good one that seeks equality and fairness. Lunatic elements are not what feminism is about. That woman quoted who says men are abortions is not a feminist. She's a man hater. Include her out. She's not on any wave but her own.
Nope, I know exactly what I’m talking about when I say the feminist movement has progressively turned into an extremist militant movement.
If you believe in true equality, then call yourself a egalitarian not a feminist.
@Screenwriter This is just a manipulation and tactic. Say the opposite of what you do. Feminists mostly use this kind of marxist tactics. As everyone know feminism is a marxist ideology.
What feminists cause in today's society, this is feminism. Not the soft feminists one who try to show feminism is a good thing. Feminists are the reason why innocent men go to jail due to false rape and harassment, feminists are the reason why there is alimony agaist men. Feminists are the reason why women have priviliges while men suffer.
You are a misandrist Fey18. Why do you hate men? Do you also hate your father and brothers? İf a woman falsely accuse your brother for rape or harassment and if your brother sent in prison, would you still be a feminist?
@Screenwriter This is just a manipulation and tactic. Say the opposite of what you do. Feminists mostly use this kind of marxist tactics. As everyone know feminism is a marxist ideology.
What feminists cause in today's society, this is feminism. Not the soft feminists one who try to show feminism is a good thing. Feminists are the reason why innocent men go to jail due to false rape and harassment, feminists are the reason why there is alimony agaist men. Feminists are the reason why women have priviliges while men suffer.
You are a misandrist. Why do you hate men? Do you also hate your father and brothers? İf a woman falsely accuse your brother for rape or harassment and if your brother sent in prison, would you still be a feminist?
Feminism is a paradox that when looked at closely leads to the conclusion that it is senseless, logically unacceptable and self-contradictory
I agree with the "feminist who hate Christianity but vehemently defend the theocracy of the Middle East" one.
How can you hate christianity its bout forgivness repentance and love anybody who hates Christianity just has a. Sinful heart and hates that it challenges their wicked ways
Very true.
First of all, if you have to tell people you aren't a misogynist, you probably are one. You speak of oversimplification yet you do the exact same thing. All feminists don't think the way you think they do and all of them don't look the same as the angry redhead you guys always post. Feminists vary in opinion just like anyone does. Quite frankly I'm sick of this BS, grow up.
@Fey18
Typical petty insults from someone who doesn’t have valid counter arguments. And it’s you who needs to grow up since you seem to find it easy to resort to “muh misogyny”. No I’m not a misogynist so quit making baseless assumptions considering that you know nothing about me.
"First of all, if you have to tell people you aren't a misogynist, you probably are one." No its not about that. Some judgmental feminists like you will put etiquette onto people who promote real equality. This is just a manipulation and tactic. Say the opposite of what you do. Feminists mostly use this kind of marxist tactics. As everyone know feminism is a marxist ideology.
What feminists cause in today's society, this is feminism. Not the soft feminists one who try to show feminism is a good thing. Feminists are the reason why innocent men go to jail due to false rape and harassment, feminists are the reason why there is alimony agaist men. Feminists are the reason why women have priviliges while men suffer.
You are a misandrist Fey18. Why you hate men? Do you also hate your father and brothers? İf a woman falsely accuse your brother for rape or harassment and if your brother sent in prison, would you still be feminist?
Gee whiz. The 3 millionth thread on feminism since I have been here.
i swear if you guys could just pound it out, all of these would disappear.
I think you’re confused. While all groups may have racists misandrists, totalitarian-ists and such, the term “fourth wave” feminism is not feminism. It’s a bastardized term used to decribe something that feminists are not, including but not limited to your descriptions above.
Sounds like apologist rhetoric.
Even the Nazi regime had good “Nazis” like Oskar Schindler and Karl Plagge who protected many people from the same regime they owed allegiance to. That still doesn’t absolve all the atrocities committed by the Nazi regime.
Same goes for the feminist movement, just because there are a few good feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers, does not mean that the feminist movement as a whole has good intentions.
4th wave feminism is still feminism. And feminism at large is basically just an r/incels circlejerk for women.
Attempting to differentiate feminism by using terms like 4th wave and such is like attempting to differentiate the KKK between white nationalists.
The same old “not all feminists are like that” (NAFALT) strawman argument touched upon in the MyTake. If they AREN'T 'true feminists', as you claim, then why don't you or any other supposed 'true feminists' condemn their words, their policies or their actions? I mean, even the overwhelming majority of Muslims vocally denounce the Wahabbis, and disavow them. But you just say "oh, that specific thing didn't count, they didn't really mean it", and still keep the hate preachers up on their pedestals as the alleged 'paragons of virtue', as your proclaimed exemplary leaders and idols. Why?
@SarahsSummer This is just a manipulation and tactic. Say the opposite of what you do. Feminists mostly use this kind of marxist tactics. As everyone know feminism is a marxist ideology.
What feminists cause in today's society, this is feminism. Not the soft feminists one who try to show feminism is a good thing. Feminists are the reason why innocent men go to jail due to false rape and harassment, feminists are the reason why there is alimony agaist men. Feminists are the reason why women have priviliges while men suffer.
You are a misandrist Fey18. Why do you hate men? Do you also hate your father and brothers? İf a woman falsely accuse your brother for rape or harassment and if your brother sent in prison, would you still be a feminist?
@SarahsSummer This is just a manipulation and tactic. Say the opposite of what you do. Feminists mostly use this kind of marxist tactics. As everyone know feminism is a marxist ideology.
What feminists cause in today's society, this is feminism. Not the soft feminists one who try to show feminism is a good thing. Feminists are the reason why innocent men go to jail due to false rape and harassment, feminists are the reason why there is alimony agaist men. Feminists are the reason why women have priviliges while men suffer.
You are a misandrist. Why do you hate men? Do you also hate your father and brothers? İf a woman falsely accuse your brother for rape or harassment and if your brother sent in prison, would you still be a feminist?
Yep all true. You're an equalist if you believe in equality not a feminists.
Feminism is another term for severe mental retardation.
I am pretty sure the Hooters girls are not asking that woman to defend them!
Amazing take! Really good info !
You don’t need to respect women or men. Respect is earned! Feminist is toxins and turns men into p***es to be able to bring a trojan horse to destroy nations. Sweden a perfect example.
Feminism is cancer.
God made man and woman to be equal and complementary. Women and men should treat each other well and love and respect each other. I don't need feminists to tell me this, it's just plain common sense. Feminists don't have common sense.
I'm just here to remind everyone that feminists started pissing their pants on social media because some 4chan trolls convinced them it was fighting the patriarchy.
Bro you’re just in a bad mood cause you ain’t getting enough pussy 😛
Typical feminist comment. Feminism is a dogmatic religion. Dogmatic ideologies and its followers are very similiar. And thank you for showing this. Dogmatic people only do ad hominem, they don't have any argument. Thank you for showing this again. You will convince more people to understand why feminism is a dogmatic religion.