How to prevent a home invasion: Warning signs, precautions and castle doctrine tactics (Page 2)
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Most of your points have merit. But when it comes to your use of “Castle Doctrine” and worse case responses, you’re way off the mark.
@LuvMeSomeBoys Am I to assume that you are one of those folks who doesn’t believe in the castle doctrine.
Simply saying something is “way off of the mark” without explanation proves nothing. In case you didn’t know, the castle doctrine has saved countless lives before.
No , having guns create a violent atmosphere. Same with knives. Precautions yes. For me if someone was determined to break in and take stuff, I would not kill them to protect it..
So you would just stand there?
What do you suggest, you arm yourself and start firing. All that will get you, either dead or serving life. Plus could cost you your family's life. Nothing is worth that...
@Gedaria That’s typical illogical reasoning usually spouted by liberals who have more sympathy for violent criminals than law abiding citizens.
If you have a chance to defend yourself why not defend yourself? It’s either you or them. How can you be so sure they won’t try to harm you or your family?
Typical, If a guy tried coming in with a gun, your reaction is to shoot him. Here in the UK that would put me in prison. Even attacking him with a baseball bat.
You probably have a dub machine gun under the stairs to know him away...
You’re from the UK. different country, different laws.
Here in the states, self defense laws are more lenient and respect citizen’s rights to act in self defense.
Did you even read everything I wrote or did you just skim through it? Read everything thoroughly including the disclaimer on the second paragraph. Besides, just because we have lenient self defense laws doesn’t mean we have no restrictions, we still have to follow some rules when it comes to self defense.
Yeah, thankfully I live where it’s really not an issue. Very grateful that “shoot first, ask questions later” is not an acceptable practice.
@Redstang88 So you’ll just let home invaders ransack your home while you just stand there and do nothing?
I guess it’s not surprising, after all you guys are way too liberal.
No, fortunately it’s really not a thing here.
Reasonable use of force is legal; executing someone for simply being somewhere they shouldn’t be isn’t. Thankfully we are required to think before shooting someone here.
@Redstang88 Fair enough, that’s why I put a disclaimer at the top where I said:
“Use NON lethal tactics as primary defensive measures, only use lethal tactics as last resort (only if absolutely necessary), only use the necessary amount of force.”
Oh dear god this is SOOO.. Paranoid.. 😂🤣😂😂🤣
There’s nothing paranoid about being cautious.
I am not saying it's wrong..
It's a just paranoid..
I maintain caution..
This one time a car for few continues days was getting parked in alleys end.. And it was empty side. And car was facing my house I could tell by its silhouette.
On fifth day I called 5 friend and we ganged that car and decided to question the dude..
Apparently..
We ended up catching a Bank Manager having affair with his secretary.
We sneaked on to a car which a couple was having sex in it 😂🤣
Called them out.. And asked her if she was already and wasn't prostituting and it was consensual without blackmailing..
Then were drinking and smoking while at it..
Told them to Not drink because the dude is drinking back after that..
They can smoke it cool..
Gave him. Phone number
If he needs help ever..
It's funny the only help he and her often needed was restroom which he used at friends help..
That car still park at that place and they had fun for another few months..
Until one of them got transfered or got caught..
Don't remember proper details..
But it was one fun summer story..
It's usually people doing sneaky affairs..
Instead of spying..
Told them to Not drink because the dude is driving* back after that..
Tens of thousands of rapes occur each year because somebody is home during an attempted burglary. That's in the United States alone.
@Ogopogo " Tens of thousands of rapes occur each year because somebody is home during an attempted burglary. That's in the United States alone. "
Are you sure that's not because it's the United States?
@goaded Maybe you think it's cute to joke about women being attacked in their homes so long as you also smirk about their nationality while you do it. Try that at the water cooler or your local bar and tell us how it works out for you.
Pretty much yeah.
America is such an idiotic country.
Why? Because our forefathers decided to put a clause in our constitution that allows us to own firearms to protect ourselves?
@broncobryan Because your country is armed to the teeth, thus necessitating said protection.
British policemen don't even carry guns.
Obviously you've never read our second amendment. Well when criminals have guns, you can bet your ass I'm going to have one as well.
I'm Britain you can't even carry a fucking knife.
@broncobryan That's exactly the point: Criminals carry guns because they expect homeowners to have guns and homeowners have guns because they expect criminals to carry guns. It's an arms race. Completely pointless. Except for weapons manufacturers.
@broncobryan People seem to carry them anyway. Plenty of stabbings in London at the moment.
Ok I see your point on the arms race thing. But the second amendment was not written for that purpose. See back in the 1700s when we were under British, Britain decided it was a good idea to try and take our guns away, the colonists, we shot them, thus starting the revolutionary war. So our forefathers put it into our constitution that we have the right to bear arms, mainly to fight against tyrannical government.
@broncobryan Sure, and that is a fair point.
@2os4ngeles
“America is such an idiotic country”
If you hate America so much, why is your username a coded version of an American city?
“Criminals carry guns because they expect homeowners to have guns and homeowners have guns because they expect criminals to carry guns. It's an arms race. Completely pointless. Except for weapons manufacturers.”
That’s some illogical rhetoric there. You really think that banning the purchase of weapons is going to prevent criminals from accessing weapons? Criminals don’t give a damn what laws are put in place, they’ll always find a means of accessing weapons all while law abiding citizens are left defenseless with all the restrictions put in place.
Don't hate America. Hate stupidity.
Criminals in many other countries don't carry guns, because they don't expect to encounter homeowners with guns.
What you have is an arms race between so-called "law-abiding citizens", criminals, and police, and seen from abroad, it is honestly ridiculous.
Besides, keeping a gun in your home statistically makes you less safe than you would otherwise be.
But whatever, keep drinking the Rambo Kool-Aid.
Those statics are from people that have gotten shot from not handling a gun properly in their own home. Responsible gun owners, like myself, keep their guns locked up. With the exception of the one on my side and the one in my truck and the one on my wife's side and the other one in her car oh and the one beside the bed on my side oh and the one by the bed on her side. Lmao
@broncobryan Hahaha :D
@2os4angeles More nonsense, it’s not an “arms race” as you call it. You only call it that because you are ignorant of America’s gun laws.
Just cause we have “lenient” gun laws doesn’t mean we can buy whatever we want, we still have restrictions when it comes to types of weapons and types of ammunition. For example, California does not allow the purchase of Knuckle dusters which aren’t even guns.
I don’t know where you are getting your so called “statistics” from. But if you want talk statistics here you go.
www.google.com/.../%3foutputType=amp
quillette.com/.../
Quillette lol. Seriously?
More credibile than CNN and BBC.
America's rate of police killings is 10 x Denmark's.
@2os4angeles Denmark is a much smaller country.
Your rate of gun homicides is 40 x Denmark's.
Yes, your Quillette opinion piece was reeeal credible.
@2os4ngeles Red herring much? Besides just cause Quillette expresses different political stances than yours doesn’t mean it’s not credible.
Hey we have to have some sort of population control. y'all have knives and pointy things, we have guns. And never forget "mr britain" that thanks to American guns you're not speaking german right now.
@broncobryan True, but those weren't privately-owned firearms, were they?
Quillette isn't credible because it portrays itself as rational, objective, and intellectual, but publishes pieces like the one you linked to, which can't even get past the headline without taking a swipe at Democrats. Utterly ridiculous.
Not at the time no, but a large majority are privately owned now in someone's collection. My point being is that most most of the guys that went to world war 2 needed little firearms training when they got drafted, why you ask, because they already knew how to shoot from having rifles back home.
@broncobryan Fair enough, but kind of doubt that that was the decisive factor in swinging the war.
And do you know why japan never attacked the mainland of the United States of America?
@broncobryan No? Imagine they got kind of bogged-down post Pearl Harbor?
I call bullshit, if we hadn't entered world war 2 you fairies would be speaking german. If we hadn't sent you fuckwads our guns tanks and airplanes youde be speaking German.
@broncobryan That wasn't the point. The point was whether Americans' familiarity with guns was the deciding factor in swinging the war.
But yeah, be sure to thank your grandad!
No actually they had contiplated invading at california in which they wouldn't have been stopped till they got to the midwest, and as the japanese general said and I quote " there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass".
@broncobryan Interesting
Neither of my grand dads fought in the British theater. One was on a battleship the other was in the army Corp of engineers.
@broncobryan Cool. Hope they made it out all right.
@2os4ngeles Where’s your sources for what you say about Quillete? That’s sounds like your personal opinion that can’t be substantiated.
The source is literally the article you linked to.
2os4angeles I’m not the one that’s trying to prove that Quillete is unreliable.
Well you managed to do it without even trying then. Kudos!
@2os4ngeles Nope, the burden of proof is on you. It’s simple logic.
I simply cited a source to explain my points in this debate. But you are skeptical of the source’s credibility, so it’s up to you to prove that it’s an unreliable source. If you can’t prove it’s unreliable then that implies that my source is reliable.
On a side note, it’s funny how you ignored my other points.
Told you why it was unreliable. The headline itself is partisan. Besides, you only have to follow those IDW people on Twitter for a bit to realise what shallow "intellectuals" they actually are.
Your other points? Okay, it's not a free-for-all. There are restrictions. Fair point. Gun homicides are down, fair point.
They're still much higher than in other developed countries. Also, since complaining about Mexicans seems to have become something of an American pastime, where do you think the guns (and the funds) for that particular drug war come from?
@2os4ngeles I don’t recall saying anything about Mexicans, so I don’t know what your point is.
Besides, I’m an American that’s part Mexican.
Lol okay, fair enough
2os4ngeles, check out the crime rate in Mexico, a country that has much stricter gun laws than the US. The criminal there don't have to worry about armed homeowners, and look how much safer it is there because of that...
@zagor Mexico is practically a failed state because of a) the trafficking of drugs headed to the States, and b) Mexico is full of American-made guns.
So to hold up Mexico as an argument for America's lax gun laws is such an own-goal.
Actually most of the gangs in Mexico can easily get their guns from the corrupt police or military. That is, the same institutions that keep the average person from protecting themselves.
And big-time drug traffickers aren't the ones committing the daily street crime and violence.
@zagor Oh you're one of those idiots who think more private gun ownership is the solution.
Well I'm here so yeah they both made it home.
I blame the mice