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Why Do We Address Kids Who Bully, But Not Adults Who Bully? (Page 2)
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Yeah i agree there's many bullies. Even my mom bullies me. Its about her hate full heart and her wanting to be controlling me. She should control herself instead. Thaks for posting
Thank you for getting what I'm trying to say. Iit starts with adults behaving the way we expect children to. Sorry bout your mom treating you that way tho
Easy solution. Just permanently block these degenerates, idiots and bigots. It's literally a non issue.
and in the real world? You better make a lot of money so you can afford to eat right and eat enough and so you can enroll into self defense classes like judo and give those idiots, who get physical with you a piece of yourself 😎
keep doing that.
This isn't about me. This is to make people aware that bullying is wrong at any age, and unless grownups stop behaving this way, kids won't either. Set the example. Be part of the solution, not add to the problem.
If people don't want their kids to be bullied, they shouldn't bully others.
We expect kids to know better? But not adults?
Yeah, and i spread the solution to the problem, making others aware because stopping bullying is more effectively applied with force.
That's nonsense. Once you are faced with 3 angry bulky men, no amount of judo classes will help you. It's a police and law enforcement issue, and a systemic problem. If anything, martial arts classes give you a false sense of security. Ever heard a bully might carry a knife or a gun?
@soleil2666 i never said that its all you need in life to protect you from absolutely all bullies on existence
@Unit1 You watch too many movies my friend. Have you trained any martial arts?
@soleil2666 funny that you say i watch too many movies.
I don't watch movies.
I watch porn. A lot.
Because movies aren't free but porn is free.
Anyhow I'm still on the stage of considering martial arts but i won't be taking them until i at least graduate from yet another prison that we call university.
Well, once you do martial arts, try and have a punch up with someone aggressive on the street, tell me how you went with that.
@soleil2666 kindly pm me your email address, so i will tell you and not forget. I'll identify myself there as unit 1, so you'll remember me and this talk.
Feel free to find me here. I disclaim all liability related to such a silly idea.
@soleil2666 i won't remember
@Unit1 Cool mate, and I won't say it.
this place is the internet... no one should take unsolicited bashing to heart here... but some things just shouldn't be thrown around at people...
Exactly... And for me, it's more about what you're teaching/showing the future generations, than personally hurt feelings. Idiot asshats on the internet can't hurt me, sometimes irritating tho or so stupid it's funny
You reach a point in your life where you need to be able to handle life. Life is tough. Kids are vulnerable and still developing. Learning what's wrong and right. How to handle things like bullys. And we guide them through that. We address kids as bullys because it is our job to not only protect the vulnerable but also groom the bullys into being better people. Adults should be able to handle these issues on their own. If you cannot. You're in for a rough ride.
The point is you can't expect kids to not bully if adults exhibit that same behavior. Its not about if an adult can handle it. It's be enough of an adult to set a good example of how to behave respectfully. Kids don't just learn by what you tell them. They learn from what they see.
Untrue. We expect kids to do a lot of things we tell them to and not do what they see. Dont cuss. Dont drink. Dont smoke. List goes on.
Those our things that hurt yourself... we're talking about actions that hurt others. Not right for anyone to hurt other people. There is no justification for that.
Actions are actions.
That's so not true. Comparing a 16 year old who smokes cigarettes, to a 16 year old who bullies other kids are not the same kind of actions.
What I don't get is why you are trying to justify it? Unless you're guilty of it yourself, it makes no sense. 🤷♀️
You don't get to groom anyone into being 'better people'. That's a fallacy, and an excuse for those bullies. You slap them back by legal force and force them into submission. And dismantle their support systems (organised crime)
Emotional abuse is not looked at as abuse so people look to other things to blame for the change in kids. Bullying is one as teens are killing them selfs more and more familys are saying they do not understand why thinking they where so happy. There is no way to see what gos on behind closed doors so what gos on in the open gets the blame
Ultimately to some extent society feels that mean people are smart. We generally call mean adults "cynical" and this is often a compliment because we feel that they are realistic about how bad the world is whereas people who are cheerful all the time must be naive and sheltered.
Not bullying someone doesn't mean being cheerful all the time. And smart or cynical can be accomplished without name calling. Truly smart people can get their point across without that behavior.
It isn't 'the society'. It's the anti-society online that promotes bullying as smart. American blacks, Islamists from the middle east, envious Indians, maybe North Korean 'heros'. That's the society serving you your norms...
Because we're adults and should be able to stand on our own two feet if ur getting bullied as an adult you can do something about it unless you were one of those kids that was taught it's never ok to hit someone if someone hit you tell the teacher etc. Which creates an adult who can't cope with a bully.
Kids on the other hand are not mature enough to understand why someone is making fun or picking on them or have the emotional capacity to speak up and ask for help so we as adults have to be aware of bullies address and raise awareness to adults about teaching there kids about bullying.
In short we address kids being billing and not adults because the adults are to busy helping the kids as is our job.
I teach my son to always stick up for himself regardless what his teachers say someone hit you hit em back when he is older he won't be a pansy like this poster no offense
The point is not if adults can handle it or not!! It's how do we teach kids that bullying is wrong if adults do that every day on line. Shi basically we're telling kids how to behave but adults don't have to! Set by example!
Verbally attacking someone online is verbal abuse which is a form of abuse. People need to quit behaving worse than kids!
I believe you can just block people online if they are harassing and or being s bully to you most social network if not all also have a report button. Kids are getting bullied online and commiting suicide the fact you like we should take focus off that for adult bullying online is nuts.
They are teaching kids about bullying in school every company has anti bullying campaigns for kids which is great. Adults tend to bully because we never had any education on the subject growing up. Also if an adult is being a bully who cares you should take comfort in knowing there life is miserable and maybe even try to reach out to them and help because something seriously wrong.
You suggest we take away the tens of millions of dollars spent to educate the new generation on anti bully campaigns and spend it on anti adult bullying?
No I didn't... wtf you talking bout.. I'm saying adults need to think how they behave and what message their behavior sends to impressionable kids... but thanks for throwing all those assumptions of shit that wasn't in here out there. The best way to teach is a By EXAMPLE... I suggest you go back and read what I said before you add bs that wasn't said!!!
Good point. I was taught to not stand up for myself. Almost pulled off a school shooting at 16. Back before it was popular. I wound up with a idgaf additude, and started fights. Couldn't go to school. I hated it so I got suspended every day I went, just to avoid it.
Now i chose a job that gives me almost 80% isolation from others. can't stand people to the point i prefer social media as my only contact with them.
How to cope with a bully. Simple. You bully him back, till he's nothing but a weak pos. Dont let up till they learn to go away.
Teaching kids to be kind, forgiving, it didn't work for me. I'm only that way to the few I care about. And I can count that on 1 hand with 4 finger left over.
Good take, my Dear! We MUST keep this in mind! Well said!
Thank you so much❣
Adults who bully kids are called child abusers. Typically parents and they are addressed all over. A random adult bullying a random kid is unlikely because that random kid might have parents who cares and they don't meet in a place where they go together like school. Adult bullying adult is not that big of an issue. I mean sure bullying no matter who it is is a bad thing but adults can stand up for themselves. Bullying just affects kids more and their future.
Iit's not about if adults can handle it. It's the message you're sending kids that that's okay behavior. And it's not!! People need to act their age!!
And realize that have to practice what we preach. So the message we want kids to learn is that it's okay to bully if you're an adult? No!!
It's wrong at any age!! That's the message we should/ need to be teaching our children!
But on average, they can handle it. Also other adults will stand up for the victim unlike kids who just watch. You're asking "Why Do We Address Kids Who Bully, But Not Adults Who Bully?" Really not adults? Actually society do care but not as much as kids who needs more proper guidance.
That's a straw man argument really. Just because we address more bullied kids doesn't mean we don't address bullied adult. They do but by comparison, they focus on kids. AKA the root of all people growing up
Also they're adults and should know better. They are capable of making money for a living and do things on their own. They have the knowledge kids don't have. They know how to invest for improvement. Why are you acting like as if adults are as helpless as kids? It's a fact. If they get bullied then what? It's up to them on how they should take it. Or they can invest for a therapy. Kids can't do all those things.
Still missing the point. This is more "what message are you sending kids"
How do you tell kids not to bully, but then adults get away with doing so. Kids brains and behavioral mindset is still learning, but we expect them to know bullying is wrong. Yet, adults who should know better? Is about setting the example, and practicing what we preach. If kids see adults act that way with little to no repercussion, they will behave the same way!
That's is why there are more consequences adults face. More laws made for adults and jail is made for adults before you say "adults get away with it" If adults bully other adults the same way how kids bully other kids, You know, a childish way to bully someone an adult can just handle generally speaking. The point your giving everyone is we're following it as is. The words are clear "But Not Adults Who Bully" What kind of bullying you're talking about? That's vague part
Ofcourse they have eyes to see adults bullying but do you think every adults bully? Do you think kids only see adults who bully? Because I don't think so. You're just being one sided with the situation here
Because in that case, they can also see adults handling being bullied which adults on average are good at. That's why they don't need anyone to stand up for them when they get roasted also as EQ and IQ develop as you get older. And did I even say it's ok to bully? That's what we call strawmanning.
@Aiko_E_Laura
I apologize. I think I took a comment directed at another user as directed at me. But still, as this is meant to stop people from name calling on line. Everyone should argue/ fight fair. Sorry again tho
I mean if he does it then so can I. Something called eye for an eye.
I think it's because kids don't know better! Adults do. You see a kid whos a bully and there is probably a reason. They probably don't even know they are doing it. You see an adult doing it and they are just an asshole.
Adults have to set the example. Again it's not about his adults handle it. Is about practicing what we preach. How can say it's wrong for kids to bully but okay for adults? Bad behavior is bad behavior. And Just where do people think kids ate getting their behavior from? Adults should know better. And people need to stop justifying it because they're adults. Set the example of the right way to treat people.
Kids always copy someone. They don't invent stuff. And the adult isn't just an asshole but very likely a criminal or a terrorist.
@soleil2666 again good point!!
Adult bullies have learned how to legally get away with it. Lots of rich people cover up their bullying with money and contacts.
There is no point in going after them because they can't be touched. You may also find yourself targeted by them and that would make life absurd.
Because adults are expected to handle their own problems. Not only that, being somewhat of a bully is how you get places in life. You don't climb the corporate ladder by not rocking the boat. You don't make it in politics either without stepping on underlings. The world doesn't work like it does when you're a kid.
Aha - you are busy selling some middle eastern Islam bullshit here. And people buy it. In Christianity, you DO climb the corporate ladder and get ahead in politics by helping and protecting your own. We don't set up 3 of our own for failure so we can marry 4 women and make our mom and dad proud of being a grand muslim.
@soleil2666 Yes, because Christians never stepped over bodies and pools of blood to get what they want. I'm not sure what you're smoking, but that's good shit.
Right, and it was just Christians who did that - all others are innocent angels. A-ha.
@soleil2666 You're the one who brought up Christianity. I didn't bring up any religions at all. I don't give a damn what religion did what. Neither is relevant to my original post.
'You don't make it in politics either without stepping on underlings' -> that is anti-Christian. Your statement, my comment/clarification.
If people notice, they are many people who cyberbully on here. And go ANONYMOUS then BLOCK YOU AFTER THEY DO. Its not addressed because we are suppose to be ADULTS, not thin skinned like someone they worship.
I think because behavior as an adult gets skewed by the situation.
Like if a boss is talking down to you, he/she can say they are "reprimanding" you. And yet kids are in a position of authority, so we call it bullying.
Probably because adults are more stubborn and settled in their ways. A child has the opportunity of potentially changing their ways, whereas we would expect an adult not to have that desire.
Its easier to begin good habits when you are young. It's also a bit harder to ground an adult. Eventually the adults that bully will die off and the better behaved generations will take over lol
Lot of people don't want their youngsters to address them. It doesn't matter if the youngster one is on the right way or path. It happens because of ego.
If we were considerate of the bullies and show them that they're the same as you and I probably wouldn't have that issue. But I think the issue mainly lies in the parents not bringing the child up properly
because what chance is there to make an adult change how they behave?
because as kids they can still be corrected and taught better but as adults, if they're still bullying, then they're a lost cause.
It's more set the example. How can we ever expect kids to understand it's unacceptable behavior if they see adults not only behave that way but get away with it?
i'm not saying it's okay for adults to bullying. bullying is terrible overall, i'm just explaining why i think adult bullying is overlooked.