My new fav MyTake. Pure, detailed, honesty. 👏 I hope you go through with it and get your cabin in the mountains, with dirt bikes, and a classic car or two in the garage, half brought to life. You’ll find your woman too. Just keep being you.
My only running vehicle is a 1982 GS750. It's bored out to 815 to fit forged wiseco's. I crashed it twice and it runs better than it did in the 80's.
I don't have a roadworthy car. The 06 Impreza is a glorified yard ornament/illegal ambulance. I ride the GS year round, even when it snows. (I live in VA, we get some but not like buffalo where I grew up)
It's not a toy. I gave up trying to get shops to fix it or order parts because they don't get that I can't wait 2 months. It's my only vehicle.
My first car was the 914 my dad let rot for 20 years. First snowday after I had my learners I shoveled a path a foot deep, winched it into the garage and got to work. About shit myself when my dad opened the door, I thought he left for work at 5am but he said they were closed.
I crashed that twice, autocrossed it, and was furious when my dad sold it because the engine needed rebuilt. Didn't talk to him for a long time. Years I think.
He sold the 89 VW camper and got a Mazda crossover after the 6th engine/transmission swap and I lost a lot of respect for him.
The Mazda is fine, but I prefer to keep my classics on the road. What's the point of a car you can't use?
I'm not the kind of guy to leave a car half finished. I'll take it out, crash it, and have it fixed before I can walk around and use my arm again. 🤣😂🤣
The girls at my highschool always wanted to ride in the bright orange convertible Porsche from the 70's.
But they usually wanted to get out within the first mile. No legroom, no AC, loud, windy, suspension like a skateboard and you had to feed the seatbelt back into the roll after you put it on. 😂
Prom date wasn't impressed when i had to fix a broken throttle cable with a shoelace on the way to dinner and show up with greasy sleeves.
But the guy I rented the shit from was probably about 20 in 1973. I told him the story and he was so happy he didn't even charge me for the shirt I ruined.
But it's not just girls. Its not even just kids. People have gotten soft. They want heated seats, a touch screen and a boring crossover.
Except my dad. He went out of his way to find a boring grey crossover without a touch screen. 🤦🏼♂️
But he kept his 550 Maxm and his 66 bug. He just doesn't drive them.
When i saw the headline, i thought it was gonna be another women hating post. But as i read through the first para, i understood you weren't that type. MGTOW is just like fake feminism these days. But i am sure there's a small quantity of men who do actually go their own way with no women involvement. Anyways good luck
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I am not that surprised, but still sad it is the case.. I think men who actually go their own way don't do it through specified communities for it, but through their hobbies and/or careers. Same with woman and what I personally have done.. Problem is you often still get questioned about finding a partner and can get to feel wrong not doing that. I have been in a couple of communties where there is not much talk on very personal stuff and civil status is not really touched upon, which was super nice! Wish it was more common and not a standard goal to be in a relationship. I feel like you, I need a relation that gives me more than the effort I have to make. And I always ended up being the one doing the main effort, having to compromise too much to make it work, and so gave it up when it was clear that was how it would roll. I have no worries focusing on myself and having that as a 'nice to have' if someone interesting should come along.
@Steven8000 yes, getting any type of man as a romantic partner (like an ass that will beat her, or just someone who wants sex now and then, cuddle and talk a bit and call it a day) is easy... getting a good healthy relationship with somewhat equal partners is not easy for everyone. But looks like you have a very limited view on it, so need to argue about that :D cheers!
Ugly men have it very hard with getting a girlfriend. I am one of those ugly guys. I am 30 and never had a girlfriend cause I am ugly. So you can get a boyfriend way easier than I can get a girlfriend.
@Steven8000 You can speak for you.. not for me and all other women. I am not way too picky or want a model for a boyfriend (like not all other single women), so your comment was disrespectful to me. I mute it know, no need for your negatives thrown my way for no purpose at all.
I think you're right. There's a reasonable nugget that should be at the foundation of MGTOW, but it actually seems to be pure whining, if not deliberate subversion of the idea of the family.
Everything defensible about MGTOW draws you to the conclusion "I should have higher standards. Better to be alone than with a bad woman." Not "All women are bitches, so I'm going to whine forever."
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MGTOW has a lot of good points but the extreme ends are bitter lol. I will never get married or have a kid. If a girl hints at the idea I will reconsider if she is the longterm relationship for me. Wedding are a waste of money and women who dream of a big wedding come across as a little selfish in my world. With that said a longterm relationship with a girl that is ok with me having my name only on everything is a goal. I want to be sure that if things go bad which is 50% likely I have the house, no divorce papers can be served, and the only argument to be had is who takes the pets. Companionship is important though just take complete control of your finances and key belongings so a woman can't take you to the cleaners in divorce court. Out of 11 blood related aunts and uncles no marriage has lasted in my family but they all found happiness with partners they didn't get married too after a nasty divorce. My advice to you is seek love and run from marriage.
@Lost_in_the_Woods You seem like a hard working young person who is throwing off some negative vibes. Also if you believe in math and statistics it's theoretically impossible that there's no one out there that will make you think otherwise. You're possibly putting yourself on this pedestal and looking so highly on you're own ideals that you're generalizing these not so nice beliefs onto most women. You're not old enough to worry so deeply especially if you don't want children. I can't say how you behave or act in the world based on what I've read alone.
That said if your vibes are like this when and if you're trying to meet someone, you could be turning a good woman off. You've said you respect and idolize some women so focus on making meaningful relationships with women that echo those traits. But be fair. It's hard for someone in their 20s in today's age to fit all your criteria. They're working towards those goals still. Good luck
Yeah. There are a lot of shitheads amongst and user's females. more likely to stumble into one than some that isn't. The thing is that many fake to they make it.
Begin to be more aggressive about what you are after and the rest aren't welcome. that you will dump anyone that begin to be annoying else later on. The thing is you must be very clear with a lot of thing's from start. Never let them get away with anything no matter what.
I have said many times "I want to move to a country that has real problems because they have their priorities straight."
People have it too easy in the US, England, most "developed" countries. When you think you have everything, and your only problem is not having the most money... What is love? What is hard work? Why chase your dreams when you can keep rolling the dice looking for Mr. ATM? \./
But if you have to work to get by, build your own house, grow your own food... A guy who works hard, comes home every night, and has skills is way more important than how he's dressed.
How about this. Instead of having a pity party, you do something! Because you should be disgusted with yourself and if you are going to keep it up you might want to buy yourself a damn dress. Hell the closest thing I had to a father was my grandfather and he would quickly take your man card away and burn it.
Mgtow is full of self contradicting idiots, only part I disagree with at least partially is what brings happiness (for me it's cool stuff, good company, affection, talents, and safe challenges to execute said talents).
Most of those MGTOW'S don't practice what they preach, even the YT gurus themselves. They dedicated their whole platform talking and shitting about women and crying about double-standards but claim to be going their own way, what a joke. Those communities are full of legit virgins or divorced bitter men who didn't choose the right woman in the first place.
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So let me get this straight. . . you're interested in "going your own way" and you're really disappointed to learn that you need to do it by yourself?
mgtow is the same as feminism. just social justice warriors with ideas void of any factual evidence or aghainst factual evicende, that won't ever listen to the other side.
They are exactly the same. Both have resentment towards the opposite gender and complain about double-standards etc. And if you disagree they call you names like bigot, cuck, blue-pill beta-male.
Yeah I’m pretty disgusted by that entire movement. They belong to the Manosphere. It’s just turned into a hate fest against women. I think it’s about time real men started sticking up for women again. We’ve stuck up for you all the time.
You might have stuck up for men, but to say women in general have is laughable.
70% of suicides are white men.
Black people and women have been on a crusade for years to convince everyone we inherently have everything so the government should come take our money and give it to them.
Very few people from those groups speak up to say that isn't fair. 70% of suicides are white men. 30% are not.
White men are about 20% of the population. That makes them about 3.5 times as likely to kill themselves as the national average.
No actually the highest suicide rate compared to populations is black teenage girls. I’m not even a black female and I can tell you out. Also because of the tools they use and how men were raised, they would have higher suicide rates. They’ve always been higher despite the decade so go again. Also you disgust me that you want more women to be successful in suicide. You’re also very selfish for not seeing that men aren’t the only ones with problems. Men are also less likely to receive psychiatric care, which can prevent suicide. But sure keep blaming it all on women.
You just make up whatever you want to try to get something for free from a man.
I don't want anyone to kill themselves. But hey, you made my point like babe Ruth made home runs.
No, you aren't there for men. All you do is bitch and moan that you have it hard and we have it easy. And you straight make up facts to try to back that up.
We all have problems. You openly admit men get less help.
But you say you are there for them, then use the fact that men get less help to try to say it's their fault and it should be all about women and minorities.
Let me tell you that truth. Most white men put themselves last.
Most women and black people also put white men last.
That's why they get less help and are more likely to kill themselves.
I didn't say you have to care. I just said don't lie and say you are there for us because that's a fucking joke.
The rates for men are about double the rates for women.
You are so selfish you literally don't bother to learn, you just assume you have it harder so you must be the victim.
Black girls have one of the lowest suicide rates.
It's like donating blood. Anyone, black white male or female will help a black girl.
Only another white men will help a white man. And, he's probably busy helping a black person or a woman before you all cry the loudest when you actually get the most help and free stuff already.
Don't agree? Let's see your source. Go look it up you ignorant troll. 🤦🏼♂️
This is insane you are so ridiculously entitled !!! You want to have nothing to do with many men. and its fine Men who basically leave you alone, and don't bother you. and they suddenly " hate women" your sense of entitlement is insane
I think it juat means date women. Have sex with women. But never move in together. Never have kids. Never marry them. Never legally connect your income, home, assets and retirement to them.
I don't really believe that men have to be mean angry and controlling to be happy.
But, it does seem that most women are more attracted to the ones who are.
But it's true. Most of the relationships I've had that kind of worked were with bisexual girls.
Lots of people call me gay, since I was in 3rd grade. I tried it, but I just can't get past the penis thing. It's not for me. I'm not into dicks and im not into romance with someone I am physically repelled by.
I don't want to be without a woman, but I'm not willing to be a jackass to another person all the time and I don't believe they actually want a guy who is sweet, caring and emotionally connected. Most of them leave or turn me down to get beat up, and that really hurts in a way that is hard to explain. Like, you'd rather be abused than be with me doing my best?
That's why I don't see being alone as the worst case scenario and don't try so hard to get back into those situations.
Its not about being mean or angry or anything like that. Its about being confident and a leader. Men who are mean and angry aren't even ideally what women want but when they have a choice between someone confident and goes for what they want but has anger issues vs a man who is considering dating men because he can't get a girlfriend then their choice is obvious.
I'm not considered it. I'll try anything once, that doesn't mean I don't know what I like.
You don't know me at all. I sued the government and ride a 39 year old Suzuki sport bike in the snow.
Confidence and leadership isn't the issue. I just don't tell anybody to follow me because most people can't keep up.
I could find a girlfriend, but I'm not looking for a girlfriend. I'm looking for a teammate. It says in the my take, my standard is of you have thumbs you have to add at least as much to my life as my cat does. So far most girls just want something for nothing from me, and not to be impolite but my dumpster can do that.
That's crazy. I almost joined the Air Force but... I don't trust the government with my tax money, let alone my life.
I'm trying to get a CDL. Check out Stevens Transport. They are all about veterans and will pay you to get your training and then set you up making 60K to start.
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My new fav MyTake. Pure, detailed, honesty. 👏
I hope you go through with it and get your cabin in the mountains, with dirt bikes, and a classic car or two in the garage, half brought to life. You’ll find your woman too. Just keep being you.
Half?
My only running vehicle is a 1982 GS750. It's bored out to 815 to fit forged wiseco's. I crashed it twice and it runs better than it did in the 80's.
I don't have a roadworthy car. The 06 Impreza is a glorified yard ornament/illegal ambulance. I ride the GS year round, even when it snows. (I live in VA, we get some but not like buffalo where I grew up)
It's not a toy. I gave up trying to get shops to fix it or order parts because they don't get that I can't wait 2 months. It's my only vehicle.
My first car was the 914 my dad let rot for 20 years. First snowday after I had my learners I shoveled a path a foot deep, winched it into the garage and got to work. About shit myself when my dad opened the door, I thought he left for work at 5am but he said they were closed.
I crashed that twice, autocrossed it, and was furious when my dad sold it because the engine needed rebuilt. Didn't talk to him for a long time. Years I think.
He sold the 89 VW camper and got a Mazda crossover after the 6th engine/transmission swap and I lost a lot of respect for him.
The Mazda is fine, but I prefer to keep my classics on the road. What's the point of a car you can't use?
I'm not the kind of guy to leave a car half finished. I'll take it out, crash it, and have it fixed before I can walk around and use my arm again. 🤣😂🤣
The girls at my highschool always wanted to ride in the bright orange convertible Porsche from the 70's.
But they usually wanted to get out within the first mile. No legroom, no AC, loud, windy, suspension like a skateboard and you had to feed the seatbelt back into the roll after you put it on. 😂
Prom date wasn't impressed when i had to fix a broken throttle cable with a shoelace on the way to dinner and show up with greasy sleeves.
But the guy I rented the shit from was probably about 20 in 1973. I told him the story and he was so happy he didn't even charge me for the shirt I ruined.
But it's not just girls. Its not even just kids. People have gotten soft. They want heated seats, a touch screen and a boring crossover.
Except my dad. He went out of his way to find a boring grey crossover without a touch screen. 🤦🏼♂️
But he kept his 550 Maxm and his 66 bug. He just doesn't drive them.
Truth be told, there must be a girl who'd rather ride in something fun than something comfortable.
And she might be the only one, but she'll be stuck with me because I'll be the only one still driving antiques to work.
When i saw the headline, i thought it was gonna be another women hating post. But as i read through the first para, i understood you weren't that type. MGTOW is just like fake feminism these days. But i am sure there's a small quantity of men who do actually go their own way with no women involvement. Anyways good luck
I am not that surprised, but still sad it is the case.. I think men who actually go their own way don't do it through specified communities for it, but through their hobbies and/or careers.
Same with woman and what I personally have done.. Problem is you often still get questioned about finding a partner and can get to feel wrong not doing that. I have been in a couple of communties where there is not much talk on very personal stuff and civil status is not really touched upon, which was super nice! Wish it was more common and not a standard goal to be in a relationship.
I feel like you, I need a relation that gives me more than the effort I have to make. And I always ended up being the one doing the main effort, having to compromise too much to make it work, and so gave it up when it was clear that was how it would roll. I have no worries focusing on myself and having that as a 'nice to have' if someone interesting should come along.
Women have it easy with getting a romantic partner. If they don't it is because they are too picky and want a model to be her boyfriend.
@Steven8000 yes, getting any type of man as a romantic partner (like an ass that will beat her, or just someone who wants sex now and then, cuddle and talk a bit and call it a day) is easy... getting a good healthy relationship with somewhat equal partners is not easy for everyone. But looks like you have a very limited view on it, so need to argue about that :D cheers!
an with equal I don't mean someone who is on like the same level of something, more like the personalities fit well together.
Ugly men have it very hard with getting a girlfriend. I am one of those ugly guys. I am 30 and never had a girlfriend cause I am ugly. So you can get a boyfriend way easier than I can get a girlfriend.
@Steven8000 You can speak for you.. not for me and all other women. I am not way too picky or want a model for a boyfriend (like not all other single women), so your comment was disrespectful to me. I mute it know, no need for your negatives thrown my way for no purpose at all.
I think you're right. There's a reasonable nugget that should be at the foundation of MGTOW, but it actually seems to be pure whining, if not deliberate subversion of the idea of the family.
Everything defensible about MGTOW draws you to the conclusion "I should have higher standards. Better to be alone than with a bad woman." Not "All women are bitches, so I'm going to whine forever."
MGTOW has a lot of good points but the extreme ends are bitter lol. I will never get married or have a kid. If a girl hints at the idea I will reconsider if she is the longterm relationship for me. Wedding are a waste of money and women who dream of a big wedding come across as a little selfish in my world. With that said a longterm relationship with a girl that is ok with me having my name only on everything is a goal. I want to be sure that if things go bad which is 50% likely I have the house, no divorce papers can be served, and the only argument to be had is who takes the pets. Companionship is important though just take complete control of your finances and key belongings so a woman can't take you to the cleaners in divorce court. Out of 11 blood related aunts and uncles no marriage has lasted in my family but they all found happiness with partners they didn't get married too after a nasty divorce. My advice to you is seek love and run from marriage.
@Lost_in_the_Woods You seem like a hard working young person who is throwing off some negative vibes. Also if you believe in math and statistics it's theoretically impossible that there's no one out there that will make you think otherwise. You're possibly putting yourself on this pedestal and looking so highly on you're own ideals that you're generalizing these not so nice beliefs onto most women. You're not old enough to worry so deeply especially if you don't want children. I can't say how you behave or act in the world based on what I've read alone.
That said if your vibes are like this when and if you're trying to meet someone, you could be turning a good woman off. You've said you respect and idolize some women so focus on making meaningful relationships with women that echo those traits. But be fair. It's hard for someone in their 20s in today's age to fit all your criteria. They're working towards those goals still. Good luck
You've been listening to Fleetwood Mac songs again, haven't you?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/s7tIM6ALkWINo but... I know I should.
Most of my idols are Fleetwood Mac fans. I like their stuff.
I just need to find some more peace and freedom in my own life before I can cross over from Ozzy to that kind of music.
But I will say, it blew my mind when I realized Cindi Lauper wrote all the best hit songs from the last ten years ago back in the 70's.
I would be totally surprised. Name a few. She had a certain style so I can't imagine what songs she wrote.
I can actually only think of three, and aparently one was actually remade in 2000.
Time after Time, girls just wanna have fun and True Colors.
But true colors is such a good song I guess it counted for a lot more in my mind.
Time after time and Girls want to have fun were her own hits. I thought you meant she wrote songs for other artists.
They were,
but I thought they were by Matchbox Twenty, Miley Cyrus and Justin Timberlake.
Lots of people sing the songs of other artists, especially after their copyright expires.
Yeah.
There are a lot of shitheads amongst and user's females. more likely to stumble into one than some that isn't.
The thing is that many fake to they make it.
Begin to be more aggressive about what you are after and the rest aren't welcome. that you will dump anyone that begin to be annoying else later on.
The thing is you must be very clear with a lot of thing's from start.
Never let them get away with anything no matter what.
Work out a strategy to look in Latin America Or the far East for a partner online. I did and succeeded. That's my version of MGTOW.
I have said many times "I want to move to a country that has real problems because they have their priorities straight."
People have it too easy in the US, England, most "developed" countries.
When you think you have everything, and your only problem is not having the most money...
What is love? What is hard work? Why chase your dreams when you can keep rolling the dice looking for Mr. ATM? \./
But if you have to work to get by, build your own house, grow your own food...
A guy who works hard, comes home every night, and has skills is way more important than how he's dressed.
How about this. Instead of having a pity party, you do something! Because you should be disgusted with yourself and if you are going to keep it up you might want to buy yourself a damn dress. Hell the closest thing I had to a father was my grandfather and he would quickly take your man card away and burn it.
I think its weird that this is a group in the first place.
Maybe its me, but it seems contradictory to go your own way, but as a part of a group.
In the other hand, i find it funny how women reacted when we talked about future plans.
They seemed genuinely shocked when i didn't mention finding a partner and shrugged when they asked about me starting a family.
It was hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Should've seen their faces
Mgtow is full of self contradicting idiots, only part I disagree with at least partially is what brings happiness (for me it's cool stuff, good company, affection, talents, and safe challenges to execute said talents).
Most of those MGTOW'S don't practice what they preach, even the YT gurus themselves. They dedicated their whole platform talking and shitting about women and crying about double-standards but claim to be going their own way, what a joke. Those communities are full of legit virgins or divorced bitter men who didn't choose the right woman in the first place.
So let me get this straight. . . you're interested in "going your own way" and you're really disappointed to learn that you need to do it by yourself?
Yes.
It's like how my mom always tried to make me go hiking.
I said I don't like being taken advantage of. Not that I prefer Mountain biking by myself.
mgtow is the same as feminism. just social justice warriors with ideas void of any factual evidence or aghainst factual evicende, that won't ever listen to the other side.
They are exactly the same. Both have resentment towards the opposite gender and complain about double-standards etc. And if you disagree they call you names like bigot, cuck, blue-pill beta-male.
@YesICan yeah. as if they took the "red" pill. deluding yourself is the actual definition of blue pill, which is what they do.
That's confusing sir
Yeah I’m pretty disgusted by that entire movement. They belong to the Manosphere. It’s just turned into a hate fest against women. I
think it’s about time real men started sticking up for women again. We’ve stuck up for you all the time.
You might have stuck up for men, but to say women in general have is laughable.
70% of suicides are white men.
Black people and women have been on a crusade for years to convince everyone we inherently have everything so the government should come take our money and give it to them.
Very few people from those groups speak up to say that isn't fair. 70% of suicides are white men. 30% are not.
White men are about 20% of the population. That makes them about 3.5 times as likely to kill themselves as the national average.
No actually the highest suicide rate compared to populations is black teenage girls. I’m not even a black female and I can tell you out. Also because of the tools they use and how men were raised, they would have higher suicide rates. They’ve always been higher despite the decade so go again. Also you disgust me that you want more women to be successful in suicide. You’re also very selfish for not seeing that men aren’t the only ones with problems. Men are also less likely to receive psychiatric care, which can prevent suicide. But sure keep blaming it all on women.
Wow. You are a true psychopath.
You just make up whatever you want to try to get something for free from a man.
I don't want anyone to kill themselves. But hey, you made my point like babe Ruth made home runs.
No, you aren't there for men. All you do is bitch and moan that you have it hard and we have it easy. And you straight make up facts to try to back that up.
We all have problems. You openly admit men get less help.
But you say you are there for them, then use the fact that men get less help to try to say it's their fault and it should be all about women and minorities.
Let me tell you that truth. Most white men put themselves last.
Most women and black people also put white men last.
That's why they get less help and are more likely to kill themselves.
I didn't say you have to care. I just said don't lie and say you are there for us because that's a fucking joke.
www.cdc.gov/.../rates_1999_2017.htm
The rates for men are about double the rates for women.
You are so selfish you literally don't bother to learn, you just assume you have it harder so you must be the victim.
Black girls have one of the lowest suicide rates.
It's like donating blood. Anyone, black white male or female will help a black girl.
Only another white men will help a white man. And, he's probably busy helping a black person or a woman before you all cry the loudest when you actually get the most help and free stuff already.
Don't agree?
Let's see your source.
Go look it up you ignorant troll. 🤦🏼♂️
www.cdc.gov/.../rates_1999_2017.htm
Again this bullshit. I checked the facts. All races of men have higher suicide rates then all races of women. Stop making up bullshit.
No it's the other way around. I hope more men will stand up for themselves.
This is insane you are so ridiculously entitled !!! You want to have nothing to do with many men. and its fine Men who basically leave you alone, and don't bother you. and they suddenly " hate women" your sense of entitlement is insane
I think it juat means date women.
Have sex with women.
But never move in together. Never have kids. Never marry them. Never legally connect your income, home, assets and retirement to them.
You sound like you have a feminine attitude and that's probably your biggest issue why you can't find a girl that respects you.
I do agree mgtow is retarded, what man wants to be without women? Smh.
A gay one
I don't really believe that men have to be mean angry and controlling to be happy.
But, it does seem that most women are more attracted to the ones who are.
But it's true. Most of the relationships I've had that kind of worked were with bisexual girls.
Lots of people call me gay, since I was in 3rd grade. I tried it, but I just can't get past the penis thing. It's not for me. I'm not into dicks and im not into romance with someone I am physically repelled by.
I don't want to be without a woman, but I'm not willing to be a jackass to another person all the time and I don't believe they actually want a guy who is sweet, caring and emotionally connected. Most of them leave or turn me down to get beat up, and that really hurts in a way that is hard to explain. Like, you'd rather be abused than be with me doing my best?
That's why I don't see being alone as the worst case scenario and don't try so hard to get back into those situations.
Its not about being mean or angry or anything like that. Its about being confident and a leader. Men who are mean and angry aren't even ideally what women want but when they have a choice between someone confident and goes for what they want but has anger issues vs a man who is considering dating men because he can't get a girlfriend then their choice is obvious.
I'm not considered it. I'll try anything once, that doesn't mean I don't know what I like.
You don't know me at all. I sued the government and ride a 39 year old Suzuki sport bike in the snow.
Confidence and leadership isn't the issue. I just don't tell anybody to follow me because most people can't keep up.
I could find a girlfriend, but I'm not looking for a girlfriend. I'm looking for a teammate. It says in the my take, my standard is of you have thumbs you have to add at least as much to my life as my cat does. So far most girls just want something for nothing from me, and not to be impolite but my dumpster can do that.
*considering
I don't think the men of MGTOW are walking away. I believe they're being excluded. In some cases being shown the door.
Here’s what happened to me.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/AVUHalR8P0IThat's crazy. I almost joined the Air Force but... I don't trust the government with my tax money, let alone my life.
I'm trying to get a CDL. Check out Stevens Transport. They are all about veterans and will pay you to get your training and then set you up making 60K to start.