Biden keeps mentioning January 6 hoping you forgot

[strateguy632]

reminder, the House accused so senate judged... ruling Trump innocent, even innocent of incite insurrection, certainly not trump doing insurrection.

they couldn't convince the senate because trump ACTIVELY separated in a tweet.

when we see judges ignored that trump bothered to tweet that, in action, and that senate already acquitted meaning innocent, but judges blame trump, falsely using insurrection to exclude from ballots, we lose trust in courts and judges... we see they are crooked... but biden speech writers hope you forgot... many years ago... so Biden keeps mentioning January 6.

now you know!

[SnackTime]

It’s so pathetic that Democrats can’t win on merit alone. The special counsel said that Biden committed a lot of crimes but since he’s demented, it’s not his fault.😂😂😂😂

[SnackTime]

Thanks for the MHO

[FunkyMonkee]

But, he's not demented enough to run for president!!

[SnackTime]

@FunkyMonkee
He's getting close. lol

[SolitarySolace]

I always figured he wasn't guilty of insurrection. But the democrats sure are.

[goaded]

So were seven Republican senators.

[exitseven]

@strateguy632 When you come right down to it, what else is Biden going to talk about? He had been a dismal failure as a president. He is not only the modt incompetent president we ever had but he has been one of the most corrupt going back to his days in the senate. He does not have one single achievement that he did in his whole term that actually benefitted any Americans except for maybe people that worked in his administration.

We have had a recession and high inflation. Millions died from Covid while Biden botched the vaccine rollout. Gas prices more than doubled and the costs for food and basically everything else a person needs to live has gotten a lot more expensive.

Biden keeps telling us that he is creating jobs. Maybe there is some truth in what he says. However what he does not say is that a lot of the jibs are government jobs that taxpayers have to pay for and a vast majority are part time jobs like Doordash that have no benefits and do not pay very well. All the good jobs in manufacturing continue to be shipped overseas. Trump revitalized the steel industry by imposing tariffs on Chinese steel. Our steel mills suddenly could not produce steel fast enough. Biden reversed Trump's policies and this year US Steel has been taken over by a Japanese company.

Biden botched the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Americans died needlessly. Biden let ten million illegal aliens into the country and we are supporting them to the tune of a half a trillion dollars a year. Americans are getting killed and assaulted and crime is out of control.

Biden is basically torching the whole country.

Not a joke!

[Likes2drive]

Proves it was a witch hunt and everyone ignored that he wrote that, probably why they banned him from Twitter and Elon had to take it over from the people running it that wanted Biden, now at least it’s more freedom of speech and Trump can use it again

[sage2021]

@Likes2drive
Trump doesn't want to go on X he said. He has his own website,
Truth Social.
truth social. com? 🤷🏼‍♀️

[Likes2drive]

@sage2021 Yeah I didn’t know that, at least he is in banned from X (twitter) anymore. I’ll probably never call it X because it will always be Twitter to me.

[sage2021]

@Likes2drive
Will you on Truth Social? I watched Trump this morning for about an hour. He was being interviewed on Fox channel 11.
He said Truth Social is really taking off.
You might like it because it's people from the right on there.
I tried to get on when it first started and it wouldn't let me because I have an Android phone 🙄

[Likes2drive]

@sage2021 so it only wants people with iPhones to watch him? Maybe I’ll check it out later but I have seen clips and stuff on Instagram and YouTube showing that he’s not what they’re trying to make him out to be and actually trying to fix things if he gets elected again which hopefully he will.

[strateguy632]

android can join. i joined. different username of course.

[Likes2drive]

Yeah I was wondering why they wouldn’t work, maybe it’s something else

[genericname85]

we all already knew this. but the dem crowd has their fingers in their ears and their eyes closed and their mind already made up to ignore the facts.

but either way it doesn't matter. cause we do not live in a democracy anyway. yes the vote for the representatives is democratic. but the choice of which representatives will be up for choice is not democratic and the fact that the chosen representatives can do what they want after they've been voted completely ruins any democratic tendencies that are built into the system we currently have.

southpark said it best. we have the choice between a turd and a douche and then we get all riled up in arguments about what's better or worse instead of realizing that all we get is shit either way.

[Joshydavid25]

Yeah, after they kept saying that he said the virus was a hoax, (it probably was be still) and the went about that whole nothing burger Russia thing for two years, I knew not to trust anything they said ever again..

[goaded]

57 senators voted to convict. McConnell, possibly a couple more, claimed he only voted against because it should be left to the courts. Reportedly, some voted to acquit because they were afraid for their families' safety, as is normal in banana republics and fascist states like Russia and, now, apparently, America.

[Avicenna]

Where did you read this? I ask because you are not a reliable source and you're frankly a propagandist. Additionally, maybe that says more about the Senators themselves and their mendacity than Trump- since when do you approve of anything McConnell and other Republicans say or do, goaded? The idea that these heavily protected people are afraid to vote against what the leftist establishment wants defies reality. Note that all Democratic Senators voted as they were told.

What makes the US a banana republic right now is the criminal actions of the Democrats in power and their paymasters. The lawless DOJ is a far greater threat to any Senator and their family than any Trump supporter.

[goaded]

@Avicenna www.senate.gov/.../vote_117_1_00059.htm

McConnell's speech after the trial.
"There is no question that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of that day.

The people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president.

And their having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hyperbole which the defeated president kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet Earth...

Put anther way, in the language of today: President Trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office, as an ordinary citizen, unless the statute of limitations has run, still liable for everything he did while in office, didn't get away with anything yet – yet."
www.usnews.com/.../read-mcconnell-speech-after-trumps-impeachment-trial-acquittal

"One Republican congressman confided to Romney that he wanted to vote for Trump’s second impeachment, but chose not to out of fear for his family’s safety. The congressman reasoned that Trump would be impeached by House Democrats with or without him—why put his wife and children at risk if it wouldn’t change the outcome? Later, during the Senate trial, Romney heard the same calculation while talking with a small group of Republican colleagues. When one senator, a member of leadership, said he was leaning toward voting to convict, the others urged him to reconsider. You can’t do that, Romney recalled someone saying. Think of your personal safety, said another. Think of your children. The senator eventually decided they were right."
Romney: A Reckoning
Excerpt: www.theatlantic.com/.../

[goaded]

@Avicenna The senators were afraid to vote against Trump. They knew he was guilty, but they were craven.

[Avicenna]

So you're relying on hearsay in a leftist publication. Since you don't know US politics, you don't understand that the Senators' actual fear is getting primaried, especially where there aren't open primaries that Democrats can also run in. That's the most likely explanation if they were indeed afraid to vote against a partisan and very rushed impeachment trial.

You also are severely deluded if you think that someone being a Republican member of Congress automatically means they support Trump or his agenda.

[Avicenna]

Especially a Trump who was out of office.

[goaded]

@Avicenna Republican presidential candidate Romney is now a "leftist publication"?

Voting against a conviction because of politics is worse than voting against it because of fear for your safety and that of your family. Nobody should be afraid of violence for voting their conscience.

[Avicenna]

The Atlantic is a leftist publication. And Romney has been a rabid opponent of Trump since the latter's second campaign. You're continuing to pretend that Republicans are a real political opposition to the Democrats and support their own (and some people hold it against Trump that he's been a Democrat at various times in his life). The real fault line in US politics is the Establishment vs the People. If you refuse to understand that, you're going to lead yourself astray,

There was and is no credible claim of fear of violence. The reality is also that the impeachments were merely politics, not "high crimes and misdemeanors".

[goaded]

@Avicenna "The Atlantic is a leftist publication" Maybe, but it's quoting a biography of Romney which includes what Romney said in interviews. Are you saying The Atlantic is misquoting the book, or that the book is misquoting Romney?

Or are you just using ad hominem to pretend that "When one senator, a member of leadership, said he was leaning toward voting to convict, the others urged him to reconsider. You can’t do that, Romney recalled someone saying. Think of your personal safety, said another. Think of your children. The senator eventually decided they were right." didn't happen?

"There was and is no credible claim of fear of violence."
This was, what, one, two weeks after Jan 6? Are you serious?

[Avicenna]

Not a good acting job, goaded. Romney is a virulent political opponent of Trump, so he's obviously biased and would lie, just as he sometimes did when running for President in 2008 and 2012. Nor is he some paladin. No leftists publication is going to treat Trump fairly, and, indeed, this is an article narrowed tailored to fit the same old tired narrative which only provides one perspective.

By continuing to cite establishment political opponents of Trump who have long made it clear that they are biased against him, you further confirm what I have told you numerous times. Go back to Romney's 2016 anti-Trump speech. Ask yourself if someone making that speech could ever be considered anything but a biased opponent of Trump who would never treat him fairly.

The more you keep overdramatizing the complex events of Jan. 6, 2021, the more you show how biased and/or dishonest you are.

[goaded]

@Avicenna That narrative happens to be the truth. Everybody who pays attention and cares about the constitution and the truth is against Trump. The fact that the right has managed to fool so many people is terrifying.

You can fool some of the people all of the time...

[Avicenna]

That nonsense might fool some dumb leftists, goaded, but we both know you're wrong. And if you were concerned about the US Constitution, you wouldn't support the Democrats' constant efforts to eviscerate the 1st, 2nd, 5th, 8th, and 14th Amendments, among other parts of the Constitution.

www.realclearpolitics.com/.../...ution_146205.html

thehill.com/.../

Here's Romney's 2016 anti-Trump speech:

www.politico.com/.../full-transcript-mitt-romneys-remarks-on-donald-trump-and-the-2016-race-220176

I supported Romney in 2008 and 2012 because of his business acumen. So, yeah, I was fooled some of the time by Mitt Romney. You have been as well. You support the establishment of another country. Some might say, who cares, goaded isn't a US citizen and isn't speaking from a position of true familiarity. But that's an excuse that doesn't fly here because you've been shown numerous times why your claims are inaccurate.

[goaded]

@Avicenna So Romney could see the damage Trump was going to do to the country? He wasn't the only one.

[Avicenna]

Trump clearly didn't damage the country (no open borders and inflation was low), which was already a mess due to the corruption in most parts of the federal government. And Romney's claim that tariffs would cause a depression was based solely on the dubious historical claim that the Smoot Hawley tariffs by themselves worsened the Depression/made it so bad. Trump's tariffs clearly didn't do that. Romney was clearly speaking as an establishment businessman and investor whose profits were made largely from arbitraging labor costs and stripping companies of their assets (remember how the Obama campaign portrayed Romney as a heartless corporate raider in 2012). So this is someone that a Marxist like you would normally never support, but you're willing to make use of him to cynically misrepresent reality.

An honest person would note all of the damage to the country done under the Obama and Biden Administrations and realize that Romney was simply speaking for the rest of the establishment. His comments made it clear that Romney was fake opposition, whereas Trump, not being a part of the corrupt establishment, was genuine opposition, and that's why Trump has been targeted so much.

[goaded]

@Avicenna Hundreds of thousands of Americans died!

[goaded]

The point of showing what Republicans said about Trump is precisely that they are not partisan Democrats.

[Avicenna]

Is Lindsey Graham a member of the establishment? Yes, he is. Does he actually take on Democrats on policy matters? No. So again, you're deliberately avoiding realities that are not only right there in your face but have been specifically mentioned to you.

[goaded]

@Avicenna Sorry, did you miss: "Hundreds of thousands of Americans died!"?

How about: "January 6th was a disgrace.

American citizens attacked their own government. They used terrorism to try to stop a specific piece of democratic business they did not like.

Fellow Americans beat and bloodied our own police. They stormed the Senate floor. They tried to hunt down the Speaker of the House. They built a gallows and chanted about murdering the vice president.

They did this because they had been fed wild falsehoods by the most powerful man on Earth – because he was angry he'd lost an election.

Former President Trump's actions preceding the riot were a disgraceful dereliction of duty.

The House accused the former president of, quote, "incitement." That is a specific term from the criminal law.

Let me put that to the side for one moment and reiterate something I said weeks ago: There is no question that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of that day..."

[Snakeyes7]

@goaded All of these Republican politicians you mention are complete and total scumbags that nobody likes because they actively go against their constituents all the damn time. People left and right make fun of all these guys constantly like when McConnell stared into space several times last year and post pictures of Graham looking at a laptop saying that he is whacking off to footage to the war in Ukraine and Israel.

It boggles my mind how these cronies even get elected. I am a resident of state Lindsey Graham is from and never vote for that shithead.

[silyt_ghoest]

i mean, if i eat a cow and then preach veganism - am i a vegan?

[Alex-Snow]

January 6th was a very sad day in our history and we should be ashamed of it

[strateguy632]

very sad? compared to what? pearl harbor tragedy was "very sad"

[goaded]

@strateguy632 Pearl Harbour couldn't have ended American democracy. Jan 6 could have, by elevating the losing candidate to the office of president, against the will of the people.

[Alex-Snow]

@goaded Great reply I agree!

[goaded]

Thanks. They tend to ignore that no physical attack can destroy the country (short of full nuclear war), but traitors in positions of power can.

[Alex-Snow]

Pearl Harbor WTF the Japanese (a foreign country) invaded the USA. January 6 our own citizens attacked the capitol and the capitol police in a horrible act of domestic violence and tried to interrupt a democratic process. The two are not even closely related

[AngryCarl]

The Senate isn't a court of law. It's not exactly apolitical either. And it doesn't mean there was no insurrection, it just means the Republicans were okay with it.

[FunkyMonkee]

That figures!! Joey keeps REMINDING us in hopes we'll FORGET!!

[Dargil]

The Democrats have nothing else to run on. So there's Mean Tweets and J6.

[handsomelad70]

I thought only the U. S. Supreme Court could exonerate Trump for inciting the Jan.6,2021 goobers.

[juliaanita]

Are you a Republican?

[strateguy632]

my only option.

[mattthefatbat]

Is Mike pence safer now?

[Twalli]

Congress isn't a judicial body.