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No, thanks to mass media, women support programs and the legal system it is the other way around, at least for any guy who is not in the management of a big company. Which is basically any young guy around 20 today.
(Young) Women can basically do anything they want today, no consequences, young men can't and yes this is causing hate to which many women are blissfully ignorant.
bullshit. people from all walks of life are oppressed. you think ugly chubby girls can do what ever they like, or are they seen as inferior due to media portrayal and social conditioning? This goes the same for both men and women, but if you think women aren't oppressed then you're being ignorant.
and why do you think men can't do what they want?
Men can't do what they want but should they be able too? No not really. Basically people just to stop being dicks and seeing them selves as victims. Oh I'm being a victim of cyber bulling, then turn the fucking computer off, it's not hard.
I treat everyone the exact same, with mildl contempt until they prove them selves to be interesting, regardless of anything, I have gay friends, I have black friends, I have Indian friends, I have Asian friends, I have lesbian friends, my best friends a girl, people just need to be interesting
Oppressed is too strong of a word. Inequality at the work place for sure. It's well documented fact that women's wages are lower then men. Politically speaking, U.S. is one the few western countries yet to have a female president or vise president. Socially speaking, it's still a taboo for an older woman to take a younger lover or husband. I am sure I think of a few more.
As far as I know Sarah Palin is a woman, and she ran for Presidency. She didn't win because she's a woman, it's because she's a complete and utter cunt.
op·pres·sion
prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control.
"
the state of being subject to unjust treatment or control.
mental pressure or distress.
how is oppression too strong a word.
@ le_ you make no sense
@ azara because it is!
Oppression is a rather strong word and I'd say no, women aren't being "oppressed". You have to be able to see shades of grey even in hell or improving the world becomes night impossible. Women are being systematically stripped of opportunity, not oppressed.
I think there is some gender role differences currently, I also feel that a majority of employees seem to be Female dominant vs male majority.
I think a high percentage of females are returning to what some call old fashioned beliefs but are also career oriented, so they are doing a lot. but member..
if a small percentage of people are extremely vocal and loud, they get heard. for those who are happy with whatever role they play and are secure with not only there life but there themselves as a person, then they will probably be less vocal because they will see others as overreacting maybe and are Happy people already with what's on there plate and how they deal with it.
this is just my thought..
Sorry! I meant to give you an up-vote :(
no you didn't Honey bee,
your a meaner.. jk (:
arghhh!
Lol you have my many apologies:)
The irony on this is that I bet more than half the women on this site can't even explain to me what 21rst century feminism is all about lol
In fact, I don't think any of those whinny, short-haired women know what's going on.
In the case of feminism, you're "favouring" a single sex (women) - is that really equality? Sadly it isn't, what we need is HUMANISM...
fem·i·nism noun \ˈfe-mə-ˌni-zəm\
: the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities
To an extent its ok but radical feminists need to get a life
@missmck...
Well done for the copy and paste, but is Feminism's aim really to have equality between men and women?
If it truly were then there should be no need to call it feminism - it should be called humanism instead, because all feminism really does is express equality by means of favouring the female sex which ISN'T equality.
Yes, even if unintentionally or just out of ignorance.
Every time a guy calls a girl a slut for wearing a mini skirt, we're oppressing them.
Every time we say men are stronger, or smarter, its oppression.
Every rape joke is oppression.
There's big consequences to all these things that people just don't know about, but are there.
It's oppression when we say men are stronger? How? I often get into debates with feminists on the subject of domestic violence, because there's very little help for male victims out there in comparison to female victims even though men and women experience domestic abuse at roughly the same rate (I posted links on my comment to back this up). Feminists often tell me that this is because men are stronger, so women need more help than men do. The same goes for rape. This study shows that almost as many men were forced to penetrate as women were raped (a woman forcing a man into sex isn't classed as rape), with 1,270,000 female victims and 1,267,000 male victims: www.cdc.gov/.../NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf
But they'll call bullshit for the same reason then they'll go apeshit whenever anybody dares say that men are stronger in any other situation.
A man that doesn't work out is pretty close in strength to a girl of the same size that doesn't work out.
If you've ever been to a gym with lots of girls, you'll see a lot of them are pretty fuckin strong, they might not look it, but that's because the lack of testosterone doesn't let girls get as big as us men. A woman once won a lifting competition (she lifted over 500lbs, I think).
I wouldn't completely trust rape stats either cause it varies by region and a lot of cases aren't even reported.
And it sounds like the girls you're dealing with are extremists, not a good example of what a real feminist is.
Quick: how many women will agree to a second date if a guy doesn't pay her share on the first date?
She'll still want a guy who makes more than her. And if you think this is a myth, just watch the way women light up when they hear the guy is a doctor, or executive. But of course, she also believes she entitled to the very jobs of the men she's attracted to. Not on merit of course. On quota. Hence the complaints about equal pay, without women actually doing the dirty, dangerous, high-risk and high-stress jobs that actually earn men more.
In a relationship and want to get married? Guess what, you have the privilege of now saving a few months of salary to buy her a nice shiny rock. But of course, because it's the modern era, she won't follow tradition and have her folks pay for the wedding, you now get to split the cost.
Should your marriage fail? Well, she'll get the kids and the house. And you'll keep paying even if she makes more.
But they're the ones who are oppressed..
Those are gender roles, which I also don't like, but have nothing to do with actual opprssion.
Oh right. Negative impacts on women are oppression. Negative impacts on men? Well that's just gender roles that nobody likes (except women when it's to their advantage).
So it's not oppression when more research goes into breast cancer than prostate cancer despite the higher mortality than of the latter. Or how about the efforts to combat female eating disorders while ignoring high rates of suicide among men? What could be more oppressive than death is beyond me.
You're giving examples that do support your point, but there's still a lot of issues where men have the upper hand.
In many professions, women aren't taken seriously, but men are.
There's entire countries where women are second if not third class citizens.
When was the last time you heard a male victim of rape get blamed for his rape?
When those kids raped that drunk girl, the media just focused on their lives being ruined, AS IF THEY WERE THE VICTIMS!
Breast cancer gets more funding because of donations, due to good advertising.
Women are cat called all the time, by all kinds of men, and are then blamed for it as if clothing choices justified it, or are told they like it.
Most girls have been sexually assaulted in one way or another.
Soo, yeah.
@ThreeIn - I don't think it's true that men who don't work out are close to women who don't work out. This hasn't been my experience anyway. Yes there are strong women, but in comparison to men at the same level they aren't as capable. Testosterone doesn't just affect size, it affects strength too. Women like the one you mentioned are very rare. There's a reason women need lower physical test requirements to get into jobs like the fire service and the military. Recently here in the UK new physical tests were introduced to the police force designed to mimmick real situations, and hundreds failed. 70% of them were women, so feminist claimed that the tests were sexist.
As for rape stats being unreliable because a lot go unreported, that's true for both genders. It's hard or maybe even harder for a man raped by a woman to report it as most people don't take it seriously. People will react as though I'm crazy to say that women rape men at almost the same rate
Ok, that could all be true. I personally haven't met many "weak" women tho.
As for men being raped, a lot of them are being raped by other men.
So the men are still for the most part, the bad guys here. Yes its just those assholes that rape people, but in general its still men.
Yeah many men get raped by men, but the stats I posted below were of men being forced to penetrate by women, in almost equal numbers to women being raped by men. This is what I mean, even you yourself have trouble believing that women can rape men at anywhere near the rate that men rape women, and that's why it's just as hard/harder for men raped by women to report it.
Yes, I get your point. I'm just saying men are more rapy.
100's of years ago women had no rights.
50 years ago women were fighting for rights.
Now, women are always right.
Just something to think about...lol
"100's of years ago women had no rights."
-Totally False.
It was a joke not meant to be accurate. Lol I just thought it was funny.
Why are you guys so afraid of the word oppression, its odd.
Oppression is the word in the post , so it is the word im asking about.
I have noticed most people saying 'its too strong' a word, are defning it in their explanation, of how its too strong a word to se to explain the current state of things.
I just saw like the 25 th people describing oppression while trying to make an argument for how its too strong a word... Do you guys sit in a room somewhere copy each others notes lol
Oppression:
prolonged cruel or unjust treatment or control.
the state of being subject to unjust treatment or control.
mental pressure or distress.
Synonyms. : persecution, abuse, maltreatment, ill-treatment, tyranny, despotism, repression, suppression, subjection, subjugation; persecution, abuse, maltreatment, ill-treatment, tyranny, despotism, repression, suppression, subjection, subjugation; cruelty, brutality, injustice, hardship, suffering, misery.
C'mon people. You either believe it or you don't. Don't say you don't, then go describing it using any other word... like 'nature' lmao.
A Rose by any other name wouldst smell as sweet. Shit stinks no matter what you call it. Oppression doesn't go ay bc you dont like the word.
It also does not in any place say 'victim'. You can be oppressed and be strong.. thats usually how it works. oppressed fight back. which im guessing accounts for all the defensiveness... and utter lack of accountability.
"I did not do it" "I did not feel it" "I did not see it"
So what. Does that mean that 'it' does not exist, or that 'it' is acceptable. Or does it just mean there are a lot of cowards out there. Who would rather point fingers than work together to solve a problem. W/e you 'call' it. 'It' exists.
No one gender is oppressed in modern society. Well, kinda, but we are both oppressed in different ways. For example, a women could get a man locked up for a long time just by saying that he sexually harassed her, no proof needed. Also, in cases of divorce, men always get screwed over the worst. I know this from my own personal experience. I can't really think of any specific examples of how women are oppressed, but I'm sure there are some out there.
I think women are coming out of that era now tbh. I think more and more women are getting into leadership positions and for example where I work all of the managers/supervisors are female currently but that changes all the time. So to answer your questions I think times have changed and culture is changing all the time
do i ever feel oppressed? hmm… no not really, simply because i know how to deal with men in a way that doesn't provoke them to oppress me. i also make it very clear that it isn't something i tolerate.
now I'm not American but i think the existence of feminism is healthy. its like a constant reminder that women aren't less than men, and that we have really come to show how capable we are through our presence in then work force and even in a physical sense.
Right now they're actually sending death threats to Detroit where the international conference for Men's issues will be held this month. I can't call that healthy when they have sent so many to the point where they needed to raise thousand's of dollars in security costs just to allow it to continue.
that dude sums it up
Hahaha this one is just AWESOME!! The asker Must watch it!
(Couldn't stop laughing and agreeing throughout the video)
You all realize he's a comedian.
Uh fuck no that's bullshit. Oppression of women? Lmfao another crap ass scheme. Feminism is just reverse oppression. Be what you are and be proud but don't go spilling that slander.
Men evil rapist? Funny stuff. That's the same attitude people had on blacks Mexicans jews and natives. Some serious prejudice BS right there
When I was 9 I got molested by 2 high school girls. But men only.do that stuff right?
It just depends on some ppl. If they were brought up and raised well with good parents and in a good socio-economic environment where both genders ' strengths respected. I can't see the need to feel oppression. I see that question of yours are for those living in us. 😏
Feminism today in the USA is simply some women playing the victim card to explain why they are failures in life, or an attempt to get freebies from men.
I didn't generally see myself (specifically) as oppressed by men thank God...but see my question - www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1036465-when-a-man-vs-a-woman-says-no
I think there is still SOME oppression of women going on by men, mostly in the work world. But overall, no, western women have more freedoms and advancement than many other women around the world. And women even have more favor and ease than minorities.
Do men oppress women? Generally no. I still think there are issues related to equality that need to be addressed but it's. It as bad as it used to be.
Of course, there are rapists (not rapers for the other answer, seriously, grammar is important) but beyond that, there are still abrasive relationships and other issues.
Yes I do but minorities are still oppressed, gays are still oppressed, immigrants are still oppressed, Jewish and Muslim people are still oppressed, people with disabilities are still oppressed there is so much oppression in America and we will never stop it. There will always be hatred and racism and sexism and homophobia and there will always still be oppression even in America
As it is now, yes a bit, but no more then guys, people should focus more on gender equality rather then feminism (and don't say feminism GENERALLY is about gender equality)
Excellent point.
Exactly, if they truly want equality they wouldn't call it feminism.
i heard someone say women were never oppressed by men. i would say women and men these days oppress each other human being oppress each other in all kinds of ways those are socially accepted ways. basically humans are insecure and try to force something on others whenever they feel threatened.
What feminists don't seem to understand is that by constantly whining about false oppression and and being "victims" they only make matters worse for themselves by creating negative attitudes toward women. The women who get respect are the ones who just take responsibility for themselves and don't walk around being victims all the time.
I can't believe so much misogyny and denial in the comments... if you want to know if women are "oppressed" in modern society, just look at the numbers. Compare salaries, look who's taking the decisions, READ THE COMMENTS! Sexism is not as bad as 200 years ago, but we're far from being over it.
Salaries mean nothing because there's a ton of variables in salary negotiation and like it or not, some of them are actallygactallygender dependent.
Decision making: 50% of the population owns 100 percent of the pussy. If they aren't in charge it's by choice. Nuff said.
That was supposed to be the word actually. Droid fail.
Mentioning salaries isn't a great comparison because the data taken from an average. But what people don't account for is that women typically go into different professions to men, not that all do. However the professions that men go into science, engineering, and technology usually pay more than professions usually occupied by women such as caring professions, this isn't really anyone's fault. Look at the genders that take up particular college majors, which are chosen by the person taking them. And there's a clear reason, women just need to take up different vocations.
Going on what they've said, salary inequality is calculated very poorly. It's an issue chosen for the angle at which it can be presented.
Men's retirement age is higher than women's - just a thing to keep in mind.
It doesn't look good for humanity. I think for the most part (in America anyway) Men are more oppressed, but in the world overall women are still oppressed the most. It's beginning to seem as if oppression is an inevitable part of society no matter who's getting oppressed, someone must be. I'm sure someone will vehemently disagree with me, only to be guilty of oppression soon after...
Yes i believe some men and women still possibly believe that possibly? I personality think that both men and women have aspects of there personality's that could use a little upgrading of late. I feel personality that maybe women may fear that. But the real question is why do you fear this?
Its nonsense to talk about women being "oppressed" unless she is somehow being held against her will. Women biologically want to follow and submit to men. In fact women are miserable when they are in positions of leadership, especially in a relationship. Only lesbians and mentally disordered women who observe this situation from the outside resent this, and that's why they created the modern feminist movement.
This is probably one of the most uneducated and incorrect replies I've read on this site.
lol Exotica. right on!
No I dont think women are oppressed as such. I do think women still make silly choices and can be their own worst enemy and that is when men get the upper hand
I'm disturbed by the comments made by most of the men here! I guess if you're female and have a strong backbone and speak out you're either a lesbian or a feminist. Most here don't even understand the true meaning of a feminist. Women are still oppressed by men. I won't bother to elaborate because most of you won't listen.
The asker is saying, speak out against what?
Not oppressed by men..I dont feel intimidated by them but I would be cautious towards them especially if I dont know the person.
Te bie qiguai bairen lianxi huawen gen nin!!!
@pedantic i dont understand sorry...
Wo de zhongwen tai bu hao... T_T
men need to be cautious tward some women too. they can be gold diggers who only want you for 1 your money, 2 heavy lifting, 3 give her children.
Can't blame men for everything. Women suppress themselves by calling other women sluts for embracing their sexuality and not being prude.
I don't buy it at all. I think what we have is a standard of living that is so good, that people have begun inventing problems to have
Exactly this. Third wave feminism in the West is really "first world problems". Here, women complain about getting leered at. In India, women complain about getting gang-raped.
In the West, unions complain about an insufficient pay raise. In the United Arab Emirates, they work those migrant workers like slaves and don't allow unions.
But you won't see all those special interest groups targetting places of actual inequality. Far better to take the easy targets in the West.
In the United States, no women are not being oppressed by men.
However they are in other parts of the world!
American womens' main complaint is "we don't get to be CEO often enough!" Sudanese womens' main complaint is they get their clitorises chopped off. Who are you going to take more seriously?
Good point, gemgem. What they clearly overlook is that few women are able to devote as much time to their job as men are. I mean, it's impossible to, say, raise kids and be the head of a company at the same time.
Gem gem you are confusing two very different subjects.
@Exotica. How so? The OP's question was about oppression in the West.
It's clearly not to same degree as that which occurrs in the developing world.
Yes women are oppressed, to a certain extent it is easy to pretend they are not because many of the situations in which women are oppressed are considered normal or common by society.
For example, women are taught to avoid getting raped by not going out late nor wearing provocative clothes etc. This train of thought leads the guilt to the victim "it's your fault for wearing that skirt" when in reality it is men who should be taught not to rape.
I don't think EVER in the history of the universe has someone said, "Well, you were raped BUT you did wear that sexy tank top so its your fault." Everyone blames the fucking lunatic rapist. Your thought process is literally based upon an illusion.
RandomStudent, you'd be surprised at how many people out there actually tell the victims that they were "asking for it" just because they "dressed provocatively".
@I don't think EVER in the history of the universe has someone said, "Well, you were raped BUT you did wear that sexy tank top so its your fault."
... Stop thinking. start researching.
What? So if someone tells you don't bleed in the ocean because sharks might kill you , they're oppressing you? and when you die people will say : ooh it's your fault for swimming with a cut. (and yes i just reffered to rapists as animals)
Gosh this is quite ridiculous. Sexual predators are out there for one reason, to satisfy their disgusting needs. If a girl wears, because she wants to, an extremely short skirt of pair of shorts, the predator will target her because she stands out.
It's like during the hunt: if a wolf sees a lone, smallish deer in the woods he will go for it because it's easy pickings.
If you deny this, you're thick.
My point is, it's not that she's "asking for it", it's something a woman should keep in mind when she goes out.
See? Le_Franglais poves my point. This argument is absolutely ridiculous and yet there are people who agree women should be aware of their wardrobe to avoid getting raped. Why don't we all girls wear burkas so we dont ignite men's sexual drive and trigger getting raped. So wrong.
I don't think it is as bad as some say, yes some guys are bad to women but people over react. People make some men out to be against women simply because they are pro life. Which compared to how women are treated in other countries it is nothing.
Only when they choose to allow themselves to be oppressed.
The question wasn't asking if you thought men were being oppressed by women, for all you defensive men. Stop making things about yourself. Feminism is about equality and the WOMEN'S rights and for once and until we have them on par with men, this won't stop. (yes, men deserve the same rights as women, feminism is AIMING for the same treatment for both genders, ones who hate men aren't really feminists they just like to think they are)
Nope and to be fair compared to other places in the world you never were in the US you want to see real oppression go to places like Korea, Africa and Islam if women in the US feel oppressed now a days its because of the choices they made.
Yes. Sexism is becoming worse because of the online world. Women are still getting abused and raped more than men. Women don't get paid the same, still, in the 21st century. Religions make the oppression of women so much worse.
Actually, women in their 20's now get paid more than men in their 20's in the USA. And men are still getting killed more often in crime or in war than women.
Because there's less women in war than men, another symptom of oppression. Only a few years ago, women weren't allowed to go to war. Plus, going to war is a choice nowadays so it's hardly oppression if they have a choice. Crime would be mainly men in gangs. Again, they put themselves in a vulnerable position for crime.
Oh, so women who are more often victims of crime are women in gangs?
"Crime would be mainly men in gangs." this is the problem with feminism. It ignores all the problems men face that might lead them to a life of crime, and instead just blame all of societies problems on men. All the while acting like only women can be victims.
that, and she just blatantly labeled all male victims of crime as gang members.
Just like how all female rape victims are slutty whores who put themselves in those positions to be more vulnerable, right, Hannah? ;)
But they're not. There are loads of gangs in the UK and USA who go about stabbing each other which ultimately raises the crime rate. I said "mainly" not all.
I haven't ignored the few problems men face and didn't blame all of societies problems on men so don't put words in my mouth. If I was ignoring it, why would I say "more than men" after the raped and abused part? I know men get raped and abused. I never denied that.
@Hannah what religions are you specifically referring too>?
Men are just as likely to be raped as women are (and I do mean raped by women, not men), but you have to do a lot of digging because a woman forcing a man into sex isn't classed as rape, it's classed as "other sexual violence". Men are also by far the biggest victims of rape if you include prison rape. Women get paid the same for the same work, the reason there's a gender wage gap is because men and women gravitate towards different careers, full-time men work longer hours on average and take less days off, women are more likely to stay home to look after kids. This myth has been thoroughly debunked over and over. Men are also just as likely to be physically abused by female partners, and while rates of abuse are almost the same in gay male relationships at about 6%, 12% of lesbian relationships are abusive - the idea that men are inherently violent and that women are all innocent is wrong.
Someone who can share their point constructively, thank-you! I know men get abused and raped. My male friend was in an abusive, controlling relationship and another told me he was raped when he was younger so it's more common than we realise I think. But it's still a fact that women get abused and raped more than men which is a pain.
men are the only ones who have to be scared of being falsly accused of rape. it's a pretty big issue because depending on how much of it get's into the public his reputation could be ruined for life.
I think that women are treated worse than men in various ways, that men are treated worse than women in various ways, that the gender-based mistreatment of women is more severe than the gender-based mistreatment of men, but none of the gender-based mistreatment is so severe that it warrants the word "oppression".
I wouldn't say oppressed, but I would say men are given unfair advantages over women simply because they are men. Wages, job opportunities, and even interviews or photos in the media are heavily tipped toward what males want, even when supposedly marketed toward women.
I don`t feel like I personally am. I guess you could say that I have been sexually harassed but that can happen no matter what. It can even happen to men.
Some women are oppressed, but generally because they haven't yet learned to rise above it. But I feel that most women have, or they were raised above it. I see oppression as a symptom of a lack of education and understanding of one's potential or even their rights. So I can only say that some are, most are not.
I still then in general that my sex does still oppress woman. But that is because there are still lots of older men out there and that is how they grew up.
Personally myself I do not oppress woman. I treat any girl I am with equally. I have a female boss, and does not bother me one bit.
The whole history of man is a history of condemnation of women by all the societies, by all the cultures, by all the religions. Now Women are fighting all over the world, particularly in the advanced countries, for liberation from man.
I don't know, I've had guys pick up heavy stuff and give me light things to carry instead. I guess they think I shouldn't carry heavy stuff and what not. I mean, I'm not complaining, LOL.
If you really believe in equality, you'd grab the heavy stuff without asking.
Where in my opinion did I say such things? Not that I don't believe in it, but I'd appreciate if you did not put words in my mouth. Thanks.
NOPE. Sure, in some cultures discrimination exists, but I've never seen it happen anywhere I've been. We get paid less, but statistically men do the hard work and that's why they earn a little extra cash. If you're complaining about people saying "you throw like a girl" in the privileged age we live in, I automatically assume you're uneducated, oversensitive or just a real whinger.
Feminism was started by lesbians because women are more submissive than men. Lesbians gave women's rights a bad rep. In a patriarchy women are oppressed, we have to change that, because unoppressed heterossexual women are nice to men. Women have so much to give, let them be women.
Wow...I'm literally shaking my head right now in disbelief.
seriously? people still believe that crap even today sadly.
I do. It seems to me that womens opinions aren't often sought out by men
Lmao, you're oppressed because me and my fellow men don't go ask you for your opinion?
Nope. Because men often go to other men for opinions, rather than both genders
How is that oppression?
Lol it obviously just contributes to society's view on women in general. It's the little things that show how we feel about men and women
So by "society" you mean "men should ask us for advice more often to make us feel more important."
Thank you to contributing to my point lol. Here we have it
So, if I don't go ask women for dating advice, or I don't ask women for job advice, I'm oppressing them? I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. It sounds like a bit of egotistical insanity, but I'm trying to see if there's something I'm missing. What do you feel men should ask women's advice on more?
Often, women's advice on dating is just terrible, most men have found. So beside that, lay it on me. What do men need to consult women for, so that we're not oppressing you?
The fact that all your silly questions are a statement that says "women are terrible in every subject of giving advice" highlights your sexism. Each person has different advice lol. We're not all the same, just like men aren't all the same. So what I'm saying is just because I come across one silly, closed minded boy, doesn't mean I assume ALL men are silly and closed minded. Get it? :)
You mean just like because I came across one chick who can't read or answer a question, doesn't mean I should assume ALL chicks are idiots?
Try rereading my comment and coming up with an answer. You feel oppressed because not enough men seek women's advice on what, exactly? Men don't ask women for financial advice enough? Auto repair? Career moves? What college to go to? What do men need to consult women about so they're not oppressed?
There's not one specific topic. I can't even take you seriously. It's not my fault if you can't understand a simple concept in my reply, my friend
Lol you just don't seem to get it
Oh, I understand the concept, I'm trying to see if there's any logic in it. What I see is an overweight chick saying women are oppressed because men don't go ask them for advice enough. In otherwords, your ego is hurt and you're "oppressed" because not enough men are asking for your wise counsel, lmao.
And you've yet again dodged giving an actual answer. Because there is no real answer to explorer your comment, just a bruised ego that wants to be pampered.
Poor pathetic little boy. Who throws low blows like that? LOL just pathetic. My weight is irrelevant in this conversation. Oh, unless you want to send a pic of your tiny pic for me to shame? :)
You're not too bright eh? Trying going to school ;) My ego has nothing to do with this. I'm pointing out a damn fact that you can't seem to wrap your teency weency head around lol. Thanks for the laugh though little guy ;)
tiny penis**
Oh, I probably couldn't even bang you, with all the rolls of fat adding layers.
And you still haven't answered the question, reinforcing the point. You don't have any logic/reason behind your comment, it's just bruised ego going, "Why don't you ask me for what I think? You're oppressing me by not asking for my opinion!"
LOL the fact that you just started commenting on my appearance shows your level of intelligence. You're a sad, pathetic little boy. Buddy, if you can't comprehend a simple fact, there is no helping you. You deserve no respect. Your not even on the intellectual level that I could have a convo with you. Just a little incompetent person with an irrelevant opinion... there's no helping a loser at this stage... by the way my insecure LITTLE friend, I love myself and the way I look :) so nice try being a terrible human being lol
AndyWes, her weight is irrelevant to this topic. I usually don't interject in debates on here but since this is my question, feel free to converse as much as you want but I will kindly ask you both to refrain from making personal attacks against each other. It's just not necessary.
I show respect until someone proves they don't deserve it. I treat people how they treat me. And I'll also continue to defend myself when I have the chance. Someone like him doesn't deserve respect
I never said you couldn't defend yourself. I'm simply saying that personal attacks are unnecessary. I realize that he started it by insulting your weight which is why I specifically addressed him in my comment. I realize this is a controversial topic but I want this thread to be as clean as possible, debating is fine but personal attacks are not. Which is also present in the GAG guidelines.
I'll clarify and ask my question one more time. You stated women are oppressed because men don't go seek women's opinions often.
What should men go ask women about, that women would not be oppressed? Men are oppressing women by not asking them for dating advice? Career advice? Auto repair? It's a simple extension of your comment.
What do men need to go ask women for advice about, that women would not be oppressed?
ANDYWES: YOU MISS THE WHOLE DAMN POINT. Like I said, you are a completely different lower level. You don't deserve a decent conversation from me. Hopeless
Asker: fair enough
QA, have another scoop of ice cream and try to patch your ego up. ;)
That is, Jueey, to be clear, haha. Again, you can't explain anything other than "I feel bad because no men want me to help them with things!"
Lol hopeless. Simply hopeless
Take your uneducated self elsewhere. Your non-sense isn't appreciated
Guys ask me for advice ALL the time, I couldn't care less. You wouldn't understand that little concept either though, would you?
AndyWes, I don't have an ego. Lol But this is MY question and I want people to be able to freely express their opinions without being bashed for their weight...GirlsAskGuys DOES have guidelines for this sort of thing. You clearly don't really want to debate with 05Jueey, by insulting her you have merely shown that you don't want to have a rational conversation. So just let it go and move on.
Guys ask you for advice all the time, and you couldn't care less.
Hence why you posted saying women are oppressed because men don't ask for their opinions often. Riiighhht.
Omg... ok my responding to this person is going no where. Can't change someones common sense level..
xHoneyxBeex I'm sorry I disrespected your question with my content here.. I let myself sink lower than I should of
No, you didn't disrespect anything! I completely understand where you were coming from, especially since he just insulted you. I have blocked that user anyway after seeing his behavior on RedThread's answer also. He clearly just wanted to argue with people and cause drama.
Yeah for sure. Thanks for understanding! This question was really important and it's really good you got people talking
@AndyWes
I was inclined to agree with you up until you brought this girl's appearance into the conversation.
The #YesAllWomen tag is exactly about behavior such as yours. You dismissed her, making jabs at her weight. You can't focus on the topic at hand and just resort to physical appearance insults.
I personally think her opinion is retarded, but you just successfully contributed to the #YesAllWomen dismissal, completely devaluing her opinion based on her looks.
So my opinion is "retarded" (wow what a great person to use that word..) and yet he just proved my point?
Yeah bye bye...
Not seeking out someone's opinion isn't "oppression", LOL.
Lol naive
no men r oppressed by women these days. need to be very careful from women. they can put u in trouble for nothing.
Anyone can put another in trouble for nothing.
girls can easily put u in trouble. I have gone through this. this fucking sympathy, fucking feminism, fucking law all in favour of women
If a man gets accused of rape, when he's completely innocent, he will be oppressed by society and brandished as scum until the day he is rightfully pardoned. If a woman is accused of rape, they'll check on the man and try and fish out anything that could be used against him to protect her - FACT.
Modern day WESTERN feminism is Sexism.
From my own personal experience: No. I have never felt oppressed.
I think it is still somewhat true that men oppress women.
Well...the oppresion of women is certainly a lot worse in other reigons. Men are oppressed, too. That still doesn't mean women aren't oppressed a lot. There are issues for both genders, all around the globe but to answer your question- yes.
I've skipped through some of the answers here for like 2 minutes. Nope, I rather not participate. Count me out!
no. not only are they not being oppressed but i believe we will have a woman president in the next 20 years. lets face it, women have and will continue to take over a male dominated world, because men are letting it happen
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maybe in other countries they're still being oppressed, but here in the u.s. we had a girl run for president. im just saying, keep your opinions to yourself, asshole
I honestly believe that to this day women are not being treated equally and that feminism should still needs to be around.
Sad the feminism even need to be a thing in the first place.
Nope. Guys treat me nicely. XP Even more so since I'm a girl going to an engineering school. XD
LOL, there will be only few of you in that school ;) You must be like queen ;)
Haha, they open the door for me a lot. XD
I don't think it's as bad as people are making it seem
Pffftttt let me tell you something a women will forever be oppressed IF she wants to be oppressed , i mean even back in the days women used to have controle over many things , behind the scenes.
"i mean even back in the days women used to have control over many things , behind the scenes." And I think this link is a good example of that!
www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/.../gracebedell.htm
Yes, but the real oppression is in the Middle East, South Asia, other countries not in the west.
And what about the oppression to birds?
#YesAllBirds
It's really about #yesallcats.