Bae you're not going to get a straight answer out of anyone. The only kind of guys that's going to answer your question is the kind that thinks being an asshole is the only way to attract women. All this "alpha" and "beta" stuff does is fuel the already massive ego of assholes. Most guys are afraid of their feelings. They're also afraid of the guys who are not afraid of their feelings. The second one guy shows his feelings he's automatically a wimp. You know what they say. Hate and Jealousy go hand in hand. When someone feels the need to insult or even fight you that either means you have something they want or you don't have the flaw that they have.
false, and that's simp talk. you just don't speak our language. What you fail to realize, is most "alpha" men WERE at one point SIMPS. that's not the same as an asshole. But we don't kowtow to women, that doesn't make us assholes, that makes us self-respecting.
your bad @Jnerdy97
@feminismisnarcissism I'm self-respecting as well. I don't understand why you call me simp. What makes you think everyone called a simp kowtows to every woman? There's a BIG difference between respecting a woman and obeying her. Just because I respect women doesn't mean I act as a slave to them. It simply means that I'm smart enough to show women some common decency and respect. So to continue being respectful, I do apologize for any generalizing comments I had in my beginning statement. That part is my bad. The rest isn't. I still stand by the phrase "Hate and Jealousy go hand in hand". As I said previously, when someone feels the need to insult or even fight you that either means you have something they want or you don't have the flaw that they have. So please continue to tell me how I'm wrong for having respect.
@Jnerdy97 you are a simp, whether you realize it or not. what you think is "respect" IS kowtowing. You clearly believe men are 2nd class, you are an uncle tom of men-there's nothing to respect or be jealous of with that. I know, because I used to be LIKE you. Now I know better. And it is I that has what you want-I get all the women I want and I don't do it by kissing their ass and nodding to every dumbass superior thing they say. I hope you wake up, and realize-your'e a fuckin white knight and there's no nobility in it.
@feminismisnarcissism
Respect [verb] (used with object)
9. to hold in esteem or honor:
I cannot respect a cheat.
10. to show regard or consideration for:
to respect someone's rights.
11. to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with:
to respect a person's privacy.
12. to relate or have reference to.
Kowtow [verb] (used without object)
1. to act in an obsequious manner; show servile deference.
2. to touch the forehead to the ground while kneeling, as an act of worship, reverence, apology, etc., especially in former Chinese custom
Respect is the act of showing regard or concern for someone but to kowtow is to grovel or worship, how in the world is that the same thing? Please try again sir, your argument is invalid. Don't be mad a Jnerdy because his mom raised him with manners. Plus he never even gave his definition of respect, you just reflected how you viewed it and applied it to him. You're simply assuming things about him.
I don't need to try again. He's a simp, through and through. And while I'm sure you and those lowly women like you would prefer men like me weren't out here creating awareness of reality-that women are NOT SUPERIOR, that's too fuckin bad. Feminist entitlement is coming to an end, better get used to it. Ostriches beware.
@Curlybeauty17 that was to you, kid
@feminismisnarcissism Who said anything about feminism or entitlement? Who said women or men were superior? You keep adding elements to the conversation when it is not relevant to the topic. Trust me a woman like me would never want to be with a man like you. You might want to tone down your self-esteem because your ego is definitely getting to your head. You honestly proved my points mentioned in the original question, so thank you for that.
@feminismisnarcissism You keep adding words to my statements. I and @Curlybeauty17 told you the difference between kowtow and respect. Don't get mad and call me a simp because you can't read.
i OBSERVED you are a simp... it's not subjective. you wanna be a puppy begging for scraps.. have at it
You're hilarious. You really think you know someone's personality from a few posts.
absolutely you can tell certain things from ONE post. you can spot a racist, a feminist or any bigot and simps are beyond easy to spot, their the ones with shit all over their noses :)
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I've already covered this for you. Respect does not equal kowtowing, therefore, he is not a simp for respecting women in general. However you're right, you can indeed tell if someone is racist or feminist from their banter, but you definitely don't know their personality as a whole. Let me ask you something, if I respect men in general out of common courtesy would I be worshipping all men and be the feminine equivalent to a simp?
@feminismisnarcissism While you're using the few brain cells that you probably have to answer her question, try your best to answer mine as well. Why do you call me a simp? You have no idea what I do on a daily basis. I'll tell you, just to be nice. If a woman sneezes I say "Bless You.". If I'm walking in a door and I see a woman behind me I hold the door open for her instead of letting it slam in their face. To make a long list short, I show common courtesy. It's called being polite. But seeing how this conversation has been going I doubt very seriously you've heard of that word. None of the actions I listed are gender specific. I'm generally nice to both genders. No I will not do whatever everyone asks me to do. I'm nice not stupid. I feel like I had to insert that because you have a bad habit of adding words to my statements. If you have to use any other words but the ones I used then obviously that's not what I said. If you need any clarification just ask. Don't ASSume shit.
if you weren't a simp, you wouldn't be protesting so hard. instead of denying it, FIX IT, you'll have a happier life.
Or he's just defending himself from your bs.
@feminismisnarcissism Dude the only one I see not living a happy live is you. I'm not protesting anything. I was just replying to my girlfriend and going about my merry way. YOU decided to go out of YOUR way to judge me and call me a simp. You ASSumed my personality and what I do on a daily basis. You don't even know me. So get over yourself. There are three outstanding facts that's making me laugh right now. One, you're 43 years old arguing with kids less than half you age. Two, you're 43 years old calling someone, less than half your age, names. Lastly, @Curlybeauty17 and I asked you a question and you didn't answer them. So find another way of dealing with your midlife crisis. Fussing with kids is obviously not a good way.
@feminismisnarcissism i feel like you're still missing the point, Simps dont do anything extra. Simps aren't simps for the sex, they do it because they want to. You keep going back to being alpha, and getting all the women, and sure thats cool.
But why is someone not wanting that, and acting respectfully without a goal a bad thing?
Here's why:
Because a simp doesn't "get it". A simp might be favourable among women at the beginning but in the long run the simp is the one who gets divorced and loses it all.
As sexist as it may sound, marriages where a man keeps his woman in her place, where a woman is constantly on edge... these are the marriages that last the longest. A lot of girls refuse to admit this but statistics show otherwise.
With the advent of the internet, men have learned these sorts of things. Naturally someone who kisses ass or has a white knight complex is shamed.
Cheers
Do you have any statistics to support your claim?
That's interesting. Thank you for sharing.
I'll have to read that on top of all my other homework, but I might learn something new.
simps ARE sexist. they offer all that kowtowing TO GET LAID lol
yet RARELY get laid and YES-marry a dominant, selfish BITCH is usually the case and hate their lives, have no rights, rarely get pussy, etc.
@feminismisnarcissism I suppose those are the reactions as a result for being politically correct, third wave feminism and feminazism: being a simp or a bastard boyfriend.
If someone else says simp i assume they mean mentally slow or immature and also boring. If i say simp i mean more that they seem to be easily satisfied in all areas in life, not very ambitious in the girls or careers they choose. That being said they are usually also chill and sweet and considerate
and exploited.
I've never heard of that but I think people should be sensitive to one another.
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Avoid any guys calling another guy a simp. They’re jealous and just being catty if men who are kind.
I have checked all day for a clear definition of simp, but I see that neither I nor no one is going to go anywhere, and they will use the term by personal convinience.
It can refer to being a fool, an idiot, a simpleton, put women in a high pedestal or in other words, treat women as queens (being feminazis or third wave feminist but in man version), or a cuck.
However, the fad meaning right now is a guy who doesn't want a no as an answer, who feigns being a "good guy", a "gentleman", a nice guy who "begs" being with you even as a friend but in reality, he only wants to have sexual satisfaction and he is just disguising his harrassement like courtship or friendship.
If that is the definition, yes, it is bad. I dealt with one in the past, he took advantage of my naivety and he invaded my personal space when he had the chance (he kissed my neck, that pig), even if I put clear that I didn't want to be his girlfriend, but when I got wise and I had to take drastic ways, he already had my mom's favour, who obliged me to be with him and treat him well because she thought he was a good catch (my mother has been a very overcontrolling person). It took me three years to get rid of him, but during this time, I didn't give him more than a kiss in the cheek, hugs and touching my hands (although it seemed that it sexually excited him and it disgusted me).
However, I saw in Internet that the term of simp has been abused. It seems to go to a point where being nice equals to be a doormat, a real gentleman is like being a sucker, a real nice and sweet guy who only acts shy and awkward is a creep, a harrasser who wants to be laid. In those cases, people are exaggerating, probably because it is a response on being politically correct, the third wave feminism, feminazism and the paranoid they put on society about sexual harrassement.
1. A man is responsible for 100% of his choices, unlike women who are allowed to play victim almost any time they feel like it by the legal system & society. Because a man is responsible for everything he'd be very foolish to let a woman who has zero responsibility lead his actions. Simps, let women control them. They have no backbone.
2. Experience has shown men that women don't respect simps, regardless of how good having a simp kiss her azz makes her feel. Guys who want respect --- and deserve respect, aren't simps.
3. It's hard for many people to wrap their mind around this because culturally, there's many 'things' trying to program boys & men into being simps like romantic songs that paint women as angels and perfect beings who deserve to be worshiped just because they have a vagina.
a simp: a male kowtowing to female superiority
a simp is unattractive to women because he has no self respect... but women who EXPLOIT men LOVE simps because they can get boyfriend behavior without giving anything back. Simps get used, and it's their own fault.
I show MAD respect, generosity, and caring to a girl who deserves it... but treating ALL women like princesses? FUCK THAT, i ain't holding your door, most women don't even say "thank you" and I deserve to be in line first, cuz i GOT HERE first, etc...
some of us men VALUE ourselves and we despise men who hate themselves, also known as SIMPS
also, from the male perspective: Simps give the most and get the LEAST.
I get MUTUAL things in a relationship because i value myself at the same level as i value her... it has also allowed me to get much better relationships. I still help my women friends-but I've also usually SLEPT WITH THEM lol and they help me too. mutuality. simps know NOTHING of mutuality. they know superiority (of women) and self deprication.
simps don't get laid, they get USED. But they sure make men like me seem like a prize. so few men VALUE THEMSELVES these days that it's easy to stand out with just a SLIVER of integrity.
also simps are among the MOST sexist type of men-the irony of them. White Knights are in reality... THIS:
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ask yourself who got more ass... lex luthor or superman? superman is a simp lol
lex luthor wasn't. be like Lex, boys
Because a simp is a guy who continuously bends over backwards and drops everything he's doing for a woman who doesn't really like him, care about him, or even know he exists. If there's no reciprocation and he continues to do those things in hopes that it will turn the tide, it's simp behavior. And that's BS because that guy could spend his time pursuing a woman who actually gives a damn about him or focus on improving himself. Instead he focuses on trying to show off and pursue a woman who doesn't even want him.
Simps are guys (and girls) who chase a person interest
and bendover backwards for said person while that said person
is nothing but trash and horrible to them.
But saldy, the ONLY time I EVER see or hear a man label
another man a "simp", is when that man is treating a GOOD woman
the good and loyal way she deserves to be treated.
And yet, those same guys that throw around the word "simp",
be the same dudes that bendover backwards for some 2-faced skank.
So tbh, the only "simps" that exist are the typical douchebags
that chase temporary hoes out of pitty and desperation.
I have never heard the word "simp" before.
But from what you are saying I would gladly be called a "simp" and wear it proudly like the label/title geek or nerd.
Generally the slang term simp means that a guy is pussy whipped and/ or worship women. But from I've seen no guy that grovels at a woman's feet is called a simp, but it is guys who simply respect women and lack a misogynistic attitude are called that.
I wouldn't care what I am called by another "man" if I am showing the utmost respect for a lady. :)
That's really nice to know. Thank you for your opinion. 😊
Anytime.
don't worry, you ARE a simp
It's because he's a guy that lacks confidence, is too nice and giving to everyone and often gets taken advantage off. He can't stand up for himself or his beliefs and is a pushover and a door mat for everyone. It's often these guys that think of themselves as "nice guys" and wonder why the ladies don't find them attractive.
exactly, a simp is a self-hating loser who gets USED by women... so sure, lame women, childish women LOVE simps. simps don't get laid yet give everything to women lol
"In my experience, guys who get called simps are very sweet and just respectful of women versus the guys who call them simps who are more often than not very disrespectful and unpleasant in general. Hence why I see nothing wrong with a man being a "simp". What is your definition of a simp and is it a negative thing in your opinion?"
Yeah, of course you see nothing "wrong" with a man being a simp. Because those are men that you milk for time, validation, attention, money, and just about every other thing he throws at you in exchange for practically nothing. While you're off chasing Chad, who you're actually attracted to. There's a huge difference between being respectful to a woman, and going absolutely overboard in a desperate attempt to receive any bit of attention from her.
I’m going to attempt to answer the question honestly and objectively...
The problem with “simping” is not exactly about acquiescing to women to curry their favor, but what doing so with the motive and expectation that women or a particular woman will reciprocate by rewarding the simp with kindness and (yes) sexual attention.
The underlying purpose behind simping is what is wrong with it.
Women take advantage of simps. How do I know this?
Because as someone else mentioned already, all men are guilty of simping at some point in their lives. Usually with a woman that they are pining for or are in a committed relationship with.
Simps lose themselves in trying to extract quid pro quo from women through pathological acquiescence and excessive validation and virtue signaling.
Being an obedient, submissive simp for the beautiful women I serve is an unbelievably thrilling experience, especially since I know I'll never be allowed to get my little piglet penis inside any of them. My only purpose is to be the perfect pay pig and personal slave, maid and even her whipping boy if she so chooses.
It's not, it's just yet another buzzword used by reactionary right-wingers with highly fragile boy-egos. Before that it was "soyboy" and before that it was "cuck" and so on. They keep creatinh new ones because people rightfully stop taking them seriously very quickly. My rule: If someone unironically uses one of these terms to insult someone, I know to not engage with them. Not worth my time.
Being a simp is bad because your a laughing stock. Your being used by women. Usually mediocre women too.
You can be a simp but it doesn't even work lol. It's just like being called a fool but in terms of how you deal with women.
I have never heard expression before but I would agree with your definition and it doesn't seem a bad thing.
What they mean by a simp is someone who just pines over a woman, and sort of takes a backseat to them. That's not what women want, regardless
Yes, women see nothing wrong with simps. Us men have to look out for our own though, and being a simp gets a man very little
It is because a SIMP is a guy who idolizes promiscuous, valueless skanks who are not deserving of it. They are laughable.
only ugly bitches like simps
Bad bitches want a mean dude too fuck them good and fuck them over
Not every pretty girl is bad and likes assholes.
Simps pander to women and have no self-respect.
stop defending the simps... ur doing them a disservice.. they won't ever get laid if u encourage it...
They're pussy whipped.
By simp do you mean "Beta bitches"?
beta men
(S) uckas - (I) dolizing - (M) ediocre - (P) ussy
It an insult. I
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