How are their more female leaders? lol.
@Jeeevan There are many more female leaders now than there were 100 years ago.static5.businessinsider.com/.../...feb-28-2012.jpg
I get that but i thought you meant compared to men there were more leaders.
@Jeeevan Lol no, there are very few countries that have that. I think just two: Rwanda and Bolivia.
Germany and the Uk too. But the Uk one wasn't a democratic vote, the MP's voted for her after David Cameron resigned due to the Brexit outcome, if the citizens voted she wouldn't have been elected but yeah haha.
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Anonymous (36-45, while I might fap to these pictures, I've never seen anyone in real life like this.
@YourName123 I know, me neither, unfortunately (except in my dreams)...
And no without it, successful young men are deciding maybe marriage is not for them, especially when there's free milk everywhere
@YourName123 The decline in marriage is partly due to women, feminists and all this other bullshit that make it almost impossible to find a decent traditional woman because they hound and denounce the few that still like the old ways.There is a whole movement dedicated to just tossing aside women altogether because they're making it to much of a pain in the ass and complicated to find a partner.But I ain't gonna give up still gonna keep trying.
Because only traditional women are worth marrying? Yet all these men freak out paying for dates lol Like hello, traditional women define men's interest by how much you court them.Independent women like me, will pretty much know you're interested if you say yes when I ask you out. And I have paid for dates many times, never really cared
@BuchitaBuchys Of course not there are tons of none traditional women for other guys but they're not for me. And I can tell you from experience that's not true.And that interest you speak of is only surface deep, intrigue really, the date is only to get to know you and see what and who you are, and then depending on that I decide whether I want to actually start something with you or not, and I've been with the whole empowering, independent woman type, it ain't for me, and I've been burned to many times by those kinds of women for stupid reasons.I prefer what I was raised to be, traditional, classic and the natural order of things, man and woman, old fashioned. That's just the way I am, I prefer an old fashioned woman to my old fashioned self, and good for you, but I don't really care how many dates you've paid for it's irrelevant information.
If it works for you, fine. But you make it seem like traditional is the only way to go.
@BuchitaBuchys Because for me it is, and for a lot of other guys to, maybe not on here the land of insecurity but in real life.
Again, you make it seem like people are insecure or wrong for not wanting to be traditional. there's nothing wrong with 50/50 relationships, patriarchal, or matriarchal relationships, as long as everyone involved is ok and for it.
@BuchitaBuchys I'm just speaking from experience and actual real stable people, not the people on here because lets be honest GaG is not a healthy representation of humanity or what men or women want.
I've known many healthy happy relationships where both work, both cook and clean, both take part in household decisions.
@BuchitaBuchys I'm sure you have, so have I, again I'm just speaking from my part of the country we do things traditional around here. And I'm sure things are done more modern were your from, different area's different people.
Yes, and neither are wrong. Neither are about insecurity like you claim. Sure, some people do prefer subservient women because they are intimidated by a woman who makes more than them. Sure, there are some men who prefer a working woman because they are insecure about if they're actually able to provide or to tackle responsibilty over others, but they are not the only reason.
@BuchitaBuchys Actually the insecurity thing is correct in relation to people on here, which is what I was referring to.And on the contrary I have no issues with a working woman who makes more then me I could less actually, all I care about is that she's old fashion, morals and values, I actually love strong women who are my equal but I like em old fashioned. Which may not make sense to you, but to me perfectly.
@BuchitaBuchys As I said aboveTogetherness of the family is important. In a balanced family the man and the woman do not compete against one another. The man is the head of the family and the woman is the heart of it - both are important for the well being of the family.
That sounds more like a 50/50 family than patri or matriarchy tbh. But if you can find a way to work it out like that with a man or woman of the house, kudos to you.
@BuchitaBuchys Lol it's not what it refers to is both the man and woman know there place in the house so there is no disputing that, no arguing about roles. The man is always rules the house, he provides, he protects, the woman is the heart of it, she takes care of and nurtures.It's a very traditional and old quote from my people the gypsies.
It sounds moer like 50/50
@BuchitaBuchys trust me it's not I think I'd know it is my culture after-all.
Yes but this dynamic can happen with matriarch, 50/50, patriarch etc
@BuchitaBuchys Fine I'll give you that in your culture yes in mine no.
A patriarchy does not have to be that bad women can have some choice in a patriarchy. like America was a patriarchy until 1963 before that women had the right to vote but they do not have the right to be paid equally
We agree! Yey :)
@BuchitaBuchys Personal experience has shaped my view. It's a shame so many women are too subservient.
It seems to be what men prefer
@BuchitaBuchys I honestly have no idea how to get women to be more confident and be on a level playing field with me when they themselves don't want to.
what if justin timberlake tried to get u into a patriarchal marriage and was really dominant too (not only in bed), took patriarchy to whole new levels and even forced u to wear a burqa while moving around in beaches in USA. Would u accept it only because its justin timberlake?
@rogerthat123 who are you?
just a normal guy in search of impt answers
@rogerthat123 why do you keep asking me though lol
i ask a lot of people a lot of things
Enti feminist? Ya choumiii 😝😂
i know i know :p :p srsl in tn feminism tries to appear as a major force but it can't do that u can't fight tradtition
I hope tradition will stay lol It's the main reason why I want to go back to Tunisia and live there.
by the time uget back women will ask men hands in marriage :>
Matkhawefnich 😭😭😭🔫Ya rabbi oltof bina
srsl i think every gender has his roles its simple as that u want your husband respect and love than respect and love him first but sadly marraige her are for mere kids the girl is 18-22 even less than 18 and the guys is much older 25-35
jinakom 5atbin ra8bin fel weld il 7sab wel nsab hhhhh
N7eb n3ares b 3arbi pour cette raison, mazelou traditionnels chwaya 3al 2a9al...La7adht houni barcha bnet twensa yokhrjou m3a des europeens, deja zouz kenou m3aya fel lycee wa7da m3a un swiss w lokhra m3a un francais, ama ena je veux un mec traditionnels, itha 7atta rjel tounes ma3adech traditionnels, chkoun bech nekhedh? 😭
Loooool malla msiba😂
اللي حج حج و الي عوق عوق:p srsl it depends some places hold tradition more than other at least in my family marriage tradition will never change
Haw behi 😛 Mela enti traditionnel 😝?
Yaaa mazeltou man9aredhtouch 🎉🎉🎊🎈
are u going to dance for this news hhhhh :p let me tell u most guys say they are open minded just to please others but in reality no tn guy will allow his wife to go out in revealing clothes some of them will say why not but its not just my thinking
7atta jme3et "papa w mama" w esprit, w celtia etc?
i can't talk about them since im not one of them hhh :p men in western world become afraid of women bc of feminisim but in most arab world they can marry 4 hhh
Not in Tunisia 😜
well in reality u can if u go to a country like egypt and get their citizenship they allow 4 wives
I also grew up in patriarchy and I liked it :pAbuse can exist and exists in all societies, even the most liberal ones!
Oh i just noticed ur from Tunisia so u know.
Noo i'm Palestinian :P
Ah okey haha you looked Lebanese to me 😝
Haa I see
You have a problem with matriarchy but not patriarchy?
@BuchitaBuchys We are in a patriarchy now and i said there isn't anything wrong with it, i didn't say i supported it for the final time.
Is there anything wrong with matriarchy then?
@BuchitaBuchys Many people who believe in matriarchy have delusional expectations, many females who want matriarchy see it as a push towards female supremacy too.
And patriarchy isn't for male supremacy?
@BuchitaBuchys No, like i said so many times, it used to be about male supremacy, nowadays it is about equality.
How is it about equality? Lol really, so being subservient and letting a man make your decisions is equal? You're delusional
@BuchitaBuchys Okay, you seriously cannot read for shit. Listen to me, I'm not going to argue with you. If you read about the matriarchy it's all about supremacy for women, in patriarchy NOWADAYS we are pushing for equality. If you still don't get it, god help you.
You have not said a damn thing about how patriarchy is for equality. Shut up about matriarchy and just explain about how patriarchy is for equality, im listening.
@BuchitaBuchys Do you live under a fucking rock? We are equal in the west, people in the middle east are slowly getting equality. That is how patriarchy is for equality. (Nowadays patriarchy)
How exactly is that? And the reason why we're getting equality is thanks to first and second wave feminism which was against patriarchy lol
@BuchitaBuchys Please just stop. I'm trying to do my work and talk to you at the same time. I''ll reply when im done
Reply in the other thread and stop blowing ElisaDido's notifications
Its islamically the most appropriate way to live