I gave my definition on this question: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2144272-what-is-femininity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJQBjWYDTs
I'm not sure that *real* femininity--at least as I understand it--is undervalued. I think it is highly valued and definitely not a synonym for weakness.
But there is a problem of defining it. There is a dark side to defining what makes up "female" traits. This video is a heartbreaking to watch:
Why are young girls the only ones who get it? And this bias everywhere! Even the structure of this website. Guys don't ask girls (even though they do), it's girlsaskguys. com. Because guys have the answers and girls don't? And why is "girls", not "gals," which would be the counterpart of "guys"? Or women? Are we afraid to acknowledge that fully developed females exist? And then there's the pink and blue...
So the answer is obviously yes, women have been taught that femininity is a synonym for weekness. Just watch that damn video. I fight this every day trying to raise two young girls who are middle-school aged and trying to debrief their day with them. Their school's girls volleyball program is incredible. Both my daughters' teams have dominating, winning records and the games are seriously exciting to watch. But the boosters club is all about football. The football team has 1 touchdown all *year*, but guess where the money goes?
I'm not sure why femininity is undervalued, though. I wish I did.
If by "traditionally feminine" you mean staying home to raise children while the husband works, then, yes, we would be better off with that. But not necessarily the woman being the one who stays home. Children are better off with a parent who's there full time. I think corporate greed has taken that away from most family's grasps.
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Both gender individualities have been sabotages. Men who display masculinity are seen as toxic - yet women are pressured to prove themselves on male terms. Women on the other hand who display femininity are seen as weak.
It's beyond ridiculous since it got all warped and the beauty of masculinity and femininity as well as the beauty of how the complement each other got lost.
I wrote a take that involves this topic here: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a10510-why-do-women-have-penis-envy
Why is femininity undervalued?
Likely because many gals do not agree with what is defined as 'feminine' so they do not value it. Instead they value other traits like like.
Would a society be better or worse if women were traditionally feminine?
Worse because many gals do not want to be traditionally feminine. I think it's suited to let people be who they want to be as long as it's not illegal (within reason) or harms children/animals.
What is YOUR definition of femininity?
Whatever I want it to be. I imagine my definition vastly differs from yours and the general male population.
i DO think that in the western world, being "feminine" (traditionally-wise) is seen as weak! but in overall i think a society would be better if women and everyone were allowed to do whatever they wanted without hurting others, that being traditionally feminine or masculine!
idea of feminism: not speaking loudly, speaking quietly and softly, gentle movements and not being rough, wearing cute dresses and cute frilly clothes, being polite and elegant, etc.
Femininity is weakness. The fact that women have always been controlled by men is proof itself. No one wants to be powerless, and that is exactly how females were... and still are.
Men encourage femininity when it suits them. They want women to look feminine and be weaker, but then ridicule women because we're too emotional or too irrational, and because we "depend" on them to maintain society.
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Well see, that's a difficult question. As a feminist, I would ask you "what is femininity?" How do you define it? And who actually gets to decide what is feminine and what isn't (what definition is correct)? And of course we can ask the same questions about the term "masculinity" as well. I don't think it's as straight-forward as it perhaps seems. I personally don't know the answer.
Aristotle wrote in his book, "Politics" about why ancient Sparta ultimately failed in due time despite producing among the best military in the world. Since men trained militarily their entire life since the age of seven, they were rarely actually home which left women in charge of everything else outside of military. Spartan women were far from feminine, they were described as being very bossy, and compared to females in other societies, in time they owned much of the land and influenced much more, and didn't have to rely upon men for anything, whether it be permission to sell land or what have you.
The problem? Spartan women fought for power, not just over men but also over other women. They refused to give themselves to legislation whereas men did because they were already disciplined from their military training. With this female elitism came declining birth rates, destruction of family, increased poverty and crime, and a lack of trade. . . that women were in charge of.
So would lack of femininity improve or worsen a society? Well, it didn't work so well for ancient Sparta. History seems to repeat itself, but we'll see.I don't think that femininity is a synonym for weakness but I do agree that its considered backwards or old fashioned for women to be feminist especially in the west. I am middle eastern and even though in my culture men and women stick to their traditional gender roles, western feminism has started to plague women and now sadly a lot of middle eastern women embrace western feminism movements and think that traditional gender roles mean oppression of women. In my opinion, femininity equals female strength, beauty, personality and masculinity equals male strength, beauty and personality. Feminine women are strong in my opinion because they are comfortable being what's natural for them. When a woman becomes a mother she is way stronger than a man because she is willing to endanger her own life to protect her children even other female animals do this. Also the biological differences between males and females gives them advantages or disadvantages in certain jobs for example most construction workers, police officers, soldiers, fire fighters etc. are men and most nurses, teachers, stylists, designers etc, are women but god forbid if you even mention it in this politically correct feminist society.
This going to get some eyerolls, but feminism has something to do with it.
The entire ideology is based on how women are totally helpless in society, and that society undervalues femininity and women, they insist it's like that until it becomes true for those that believe it.
The practical side of femininity has been undermined by technology, the tradition of managing the home isn't as necessary now, similarly the masculine aspect of doing hard labour all day isn't as necessary. Femininity and masculinity are more just ways of thinking now; modes of thought. There portions of both that are beneficial for both sexes to understand.The world has been long ruled by strength (and kinda still does), and men are usually stronger than women, so yeah, femininity has always been seen as "innocent/weaker", but not undervalued, since men value femininity on a woman... a lot.
That's a lot of questions.
In the U. S. there is a longstanding effort to destroy traditional conventions and the nuclear family is the biggest one. Early feminists did not have this goal but the last 50 years or so have seen feminism used as excuse for doing exactly that in a lot of ways. By using an ever-expanding push for legislation aimed at advancing women (and other similar efforts), the effort to destroy has been successful enough to make all relations between sexes a cause for shrieking and lawsuits. You can't talk about the behavior of men and women any more.
The problem isn't really about gender roles. It's about a group of people who can grab money and power over others by claiming that every single decision is political, that everyone is guilty of something at all times, so the only solution is to let your betters decide how to run your life. Until that attitude changes, talking about gender roles only makes the problem worse.Because feminists have convinced women that men are evil, yet only masculine traits are good so women should try to be more like men, but that men shouldn't treat women like men even though women should act like men. Yes, it's all just as stupid as it sounds. Society would be better if more women were traditionally feminine.
i personally think feminine women are better than non feminine women. i like how feminine women can neutralize conflict without physical means.
Yes, because of feminist propaganda, femininity has become associated with weakness, to the average woman. It's still prized in higher social circles.
Females have practically done it to themsleves, it happens with masculity too, it's undervalued and contantly shamed by the media, hence the term "toxic masculinity" which is just sexist.
It's because of feminism. 90% of females in west now looks like a man. That's why attraction in west is zero. Feminism is the culprit. We need to bring back feminine girls, I'm sick of looking at man chicks.
"Would a society be better or worse if women were traditionally feminine? "
Yes.Because third-wave feminists and SJWs have ruined it.
I d rather know your definition lol
like should I cook, be submissive, a follower
what s your definitionFeminine women are better than non feminine women.
females have done it to themselves.. they try so hard to be men. its all their doing
Maybe it's considered so due to the hormone thing
What is it worth, in your opinion?
Why do you think it's undervalued?
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