Just as much as women has responsibility and duty to protect men and children. The important part is not the gender but the act of looking out for eachother.
Not true crazy people do and they go to jail for life ordinary people don't kill just cause I'm ordinary and I've never killed and don't know anyone outside the army who has
If I lived any where I'd still have a gun because I don't know any place where women who are alone are 100% safe if u do please tell me so I can move there
That's sucks at least they lived though gun violence is a problem in every country if they harder to obtain people will just get them illegally and u can't track a illegal gun
What do you mean? I was reffering to the fact that multiple men died their protecting their spouses, which can be seen in most every situation where their is a mass shooting. I was merely pointing out that men are still protectors, so if you don't feel they are then perhaps its where you are at or your culture that creates that rather then men.
Why do you say violence and rape is everywhere? statistically a womans chances of being raped are less then 1% a year, its not particularly common, in general. Where do you live that this would be common place?
No, that statistic isn't even a statistic its not backed by any credible source, according to FBI statistics its considerably less (and college campuses (where that statistic was actually directed towards) are even safer): www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsavcaf9513.pdf articles.baltimoresun.com/.../bs-ed-rape-statistics-20140928_1_22-percent-13-percent-30-percent In fact your actually safer then men are as 70% of all violent crimes are commited against men and the more violent the crime the more likely the victim is to be male (as males are adversed to harming women. Even in prison rapist and men who harm women are universally shunned).
Just trying to point out that your fear is mostly in your head, their is obviously a danger but its minor (generally speaking, obviously bad neighborhoods are going to be worse and more dangerous then others). You just seemed really disenfranchised and I was trying to put your mind at ease (clearly not working).
Nope it's not at ease every woman or 18 in my family has been raped at least 1time but I left my old area because I got robbed and raped inside my fucking house (that wad the 3rd guy that raped me. In my life) I didn't feel safe there I packed my shit and left and got a gun the first 2 times I was raped I was a kid I got raped by my foster dad and brother multiple times and I was blamed for it by cps for being "promiscuous" I was a 224 lb 13 yr old 🙄 but if you say I don't have nothing to worry about and I'm safe ok
As I said it depends on the neighborhood and region but in general you don't. I've been raped too, multiple times, beaten and starved and stabbed in the head. Doesn't mean that's the norm, in fact its not most are stunned to hear it as most people will never experience that in their life (which is obviously a good thing).
@ScarletAngelic I was beaten and raped multiple times over the course of years, staved to the point where my skin was nearly transparent, and stabbed in the head. I was also groped by girls in middle school (this happened multiple times). I still stand by my statement that for the most part you don't have to worry about violence as statistically its highly unlikely and of course that is taking into account that if you live in the ghetto or particularly violent areas.
I don't think it should be a law, but yes, from a biological perspective, men have a primitive instinct to protect women and children, and that goes for women they aren't romantically interested in as well. That's why women are much less likely to get attacked or be the victim of a violent crime.
They should but, it's not their responsibility. Women need to be stronger and, if the problem is bigger, then it should be the man's responsibility. It's the responsibility for every elder to protect children or, at least see there's no problem.
Of course they do, they're the physically stronger after all, and women and children deserve protection if they're the man's, it's basically their right
@NerdInDenial What do we benefit? Nothing. Why do we must benefit from everything. That you're a snowflake, who cares only about himself as you're weak and pathetic, its not my problem. If you can't act like a man, don't call yourself as one as you're just shaming us with your way of thinking.
How am I a snowflake? I’m not offended by what you stated. I’m just curious why you would sacrifice yourself for a social dry that demonizes men? Act like a man? Aren’t you the one who is shaming me and others? I understand sacrifice and willing to die for what I believe.
@NerdInDenial You're a snowflake, because you want benefit for protecting someone. You seemingly don't understand what a man's responsibility is. Actually you fear to take any responsibility if you don't see any benefit from it. That's why you're a snowflake. And do you know who can be demonized? Who let himself. Where I'm from men act like men, and whenever someone tries to demonize men or women, the other side stands up for them, willingly, without gaining any benefit. That's what a responsible society do.
@Guardian412 You are incredibly ignorant in the process of biological evolution. Men benefit from putting themselves in danger in order to defend the women who offer qualities that men cannot.
@unboblievable Comparing to men, yes. Its standard biology. Okay, don't count the present snowflake "men" generation that is thin as a tree branch and cannot defend even themselves. But real men are always stronger than women. Its how nature built us. There is only a very few exception, but that's the general case.
@stuntbrain To protect the weaker sex or children is a natural instinct evolved under thousands of years. Its in our nature to protect them, without gaining anything from it. Of course don't count the present day snowflake generation as they can't protect even themselves. But as I needed to defend my girlfriend from a knife attacker with bare hands in the past, I know I didn't get any benefit from it, yet it was my instinct to protect her as its in man's nature to act and to defend.
@unboblievable The only benefit from that incident that since that time I carry a Walther P99, so next time I won't have to fight with bare hands, but I simply shoot the attacker through without hesitation. But defending a woman won't give you any reward, like a BJ or anything similar. When you have a girlfriend sex is natural, so you won't earn sex by defending her, as its natural in a good relationship. Defending her in an attack give you one reward, that she stays unharmed and alive. And if you do good, you'll stay alive as well. That's the best outcome.
@Guardian412 You've proven that you don't have the slightest clue about biology, and how it relates to evolution. The concept of men being predisposed as protectors is derived from the benefits that are naturally selected in order to provide the greatest return to genetic stability.
@stuntbrain Since I needed to defend a woman from a knife attacker in the past with bare hands, I do know what I'm speaking of. I don't give a damn about your theories. When you get into a situation where you have to defend a woman, then theories, biology and other things won't matter a thing. There you either fight and defend her, and hopefully you stay alive, or you run and your girlfriend may end up dead. There is no third option. So when you don't have a life experience in this matter, please don't lecture me about how things really go in real life. I don't care about biology, nor concepts and theories. I care about only personal experience in this matter, what seemingly you don't have.
@unboblievable If someone threatens to kill you, what would you do? Beg for mercy? That won't ever work as if someone wants to fight, that will fight, regardless what the media loves to preach about "peaceful" solutions. There is no peaceful solution. In a situation like that its either you, your girlfriend or the attacker. I prefer to stay alive and I also prefer to keep my girlfriend alive. Of course if possible I rather shot the attacker in the leg, but if someone won't stop and still a threat, that must be stopped. That's how we learned in the police. When a bad guy decided to attack someone, that one also dropped the right to have any right what normal citizens have.
@Guardian412 For some reason you assume that you're unique in the anecdotal situation mentioned, you're not. Also, this isn't just my opinion, although I wish it was. The entire point I'm trying to make is that the decision to fight against a potential threat instead of retreating is biologically ingrained in males as a primary response to danger.
@stuntbrain I'm not unique at all. But as you clearly don't have any experience in this matter, I won't really accept your word in this matter either as you're speaking about theories and concepts, while in the reality you've no experience in this matter at all. However the reason I don't understand why you're fighting with me, because we clearly speaking about the very same thing, the biologically ingrained response to defend, to protect. That's what I said in the very beginning that man was "designed" this way.
@unboblievable You won't have time to figure out things. Sometimes seconds decides between life and death. If you start to think, you may end up dead. Plain and simple. I know that liberal teaching is this what you believe in, but trust me, on the streets this way of liberal thinking end up you in a body bag. The reason why you won't ever figure out why people is threatening you is this; sometimes there is no reason behind the attacks. They're attacking people just because, without any true reason. For some idiot attacking others is the way of life, or an evil hobby if you prefer.
@Guardianr412 No one has been in your exact scenario, and I admit that you made the respectable decision to fight. So you're right, we agree on some things, yet strongly disagree on the factors that influence our decisions. Pure altruism does not meet the criteria for natural selection.
@stuntbrain well he protected his girlfriend, so it's likely not come out of pure altruism, that said, he clearly prove his worth as a man by doing it, instead of being wimp and/or egoist.
@Berethor The entire point I'm making is that the decision to protect is not based in altruism. There are evolutionary benefits to acting as a protector.
@stuntbrain sure, the fact that women tend to prefer strong men to begin with is one of those benefits. There is some people who act out of pure altruism, but not many.
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Just as much as women has responsibility and duty to protect men and children. The important part is not the gender but the act of looking out for eachother.
No modern men are terrible protectors anyway I'm safer with a big dog and a gun
do modern women deserve to be protected?
@inlovewithyoue Modern women don't really need to be protected. No more than modern men do.
@ScarletAngelic women should be protected from other women
@inlovewithyoue Some of them haha.
I protect myself I don't look to men for protection because I'd be a waste of time im Happy with my gun and getting my big dog very soon
I have no gun but I feel completely safe because hardly anybody in my Country has them.
Everyone in my country has them
Yeah, that would kinda scare me.
@ScarletAngelic that is why in her country ordinary people kill whoever they want
Not true crazy people do and they go to jail for life ordinary people don't kill just cause I'm ordinary and I've never killed and don't know anyone outside the army who has
Gones are for protection I don't stay in a safe neighborhood a girl my age living alone in this area isn't safe
your country is not safe then
I would disagree: www.jacksonsun.com/.../
But why do you think that is?
More safe then a lot of other places I just live in a bad area
That was during a mass shooting a mass shooter is Not a ordinary mentally healthy person
how is it safe? people need guns because they are afraid of getting hurt
If I lived any where I'd still have a gun because I don't know any place where women who are alone are 100% safe if u do please tell me so I can move there
People are not allowed to own guns in my Country unless they have a reason for it.
Knives are common weapons as well
What country are you from?
Canada. Yeah, there was a school stabbing last year, but that's rare.
Canada had a mass shooting a yr ago right?
www.macleans.ca/.../
Maybe, I don't know. I'm from BC so I mostly here about the stuff that happens near where I live.
Yeah, some people can get ahold of guns, but it's harder.
The major gun violence stuff like that Vegas shooting was across the country from me but rapist and robbers are everywhere that's why I have a gun
My dad and brother went to las vagas for my brother's birthday at the time of the shooting there.
That's sucks at least they lived though gun violence is a problem in every country if they harder to obtain people will just get them illegally and u can't track a illegal gun
What do you mean? I was reffering to the fact that multiple men died their protecting their spouses, which can be seen in most every situation where their is a mass shooting. I was merely pointing out that men are still protectors, so if you don't feel they are then perhaps its where you are at or your culture that creates that rather then men.
Why do you say violence and rape is everywhere? statistically a womans chances of being raped are less then 1% a year, its not particularly common, in general. Where do you live that this would be common place?
1 in 5 women are raped in America...
No, that statistic isn't even a statistic its not backed by any credible source, according to FBI statistics its considerably less (and college campuses (where that statistic was actually directed towards) are even safer): www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rsavcaf9513.pdf
articles.baltimoresun.com/.../bs-ed-rape-statistics-20140928_1_22-percent-13-percent-30-percent
In fact your actually safer then men are as 70% of all violent crimes are commited against men and the more violent the crime the more likely the victim is to be male (as males are adversed to harming women. Even in prison rapist and men who harm women are universally shunned).
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Just trying to point out that your fear is mostly in your head, their is obviously a danger but its minor (generally speaking, obviously bad neighborhoods are going to be worse and more dangerous then others). You just seemed really disenfranchised and I was trying to put your mind at ease (clearly not working).
Nope it's not at ease every woman or 18 in my family has been raped at least 1time but I left my old area because I got robbed and raped inside my fucking house (that wad the 3rd guy that raped me. In my life) I didn't feel safe there I packed my shit and left and got a gun the first 2 times I was raped I was a kid I got raped by my foster dad and brother multiple times and I was blamed for it by cps for being
"promiscuous" I was a 224 lb 13 yr old 🙄 but if you say I don't have nothing to worry about and I'm safe ok
@hellionthesagereborn One time a girl pulled down my shirt and looked at my bra in the middle of class...
@ScarletAngelic I live in Russia and never felt the need to carry a weapon with me
@inlovewithyoue Hmm
As I said it depends on the neighborhood and region but in general you don't. I've been raped too, multiple times, beaten and starved and stabbed in the head. Doesn't mean that's the norm, in fact its not most are stunned to hear it as most people will never experience that in their life (which is obviously a good thing).
@ScarletAngelic I was beaten and raped multiple times over the course of years, staved to the point where my skin was nearly transparent, and stabbed in the head. I was also groped by girls in middle school (this happened multiple times). I still stand by my statement that for the most part you don't have to worry about violence as statistically its highly unlikely and of course that is taking into account that if you live in the ghetto or particularly violent areas.
I don't think it should be a law, but yes, from a biological perspective, men have a primitive instinct to protect women and children, and that goes for women they aren't romantically interested in as well. That's why women are much less likely to get attacked or be the victim of a violent crime.
As a society we all have a responsibility to provide as safe an environment as we can for our fellow men, women, and children.
Depends i personally think yes but i also know feminazis that would say my way of thinking is arcaic and chauvinistic
They should but, it's not their responsibility. Women need to be stronger and, if the problem is bigger, then it should be the man's responsibility. It's the responsibility for every elder to protect children or, at least see there's no problem.
Bill Clinton is a high level organized criminal, traitor and rapist
And your answer to the question is...
Lol😂
Mind reading my question again? 😂
I already voted, this is just some insight
if your going to protect any one, it should be Children 1st and then women, but the women should be protecting the children
I think protecting children and women is man’s instinct
Women can fight their own battles, but children can't
I am looking for a woman who is independent and fight her own battles, not a doormat
Every adult has the responsibility to protect their fellow people and children and themselves.
Yes in as much as that is how our species has evolved. If we don't then we as a species become sick after a fashion and risk extinction.
Of course they do, they're the physically stronger after all, and women and children deserve protection if they're the man's, it's basically their right
It's biological. Of course, we do. And I would do it if I were in the position to do so.
Yes, because its in are nature as men as well as in Blood.
I wonder if over time we'll evolve into having more equal strength. Nature tends to do that.
Nature don't give a shit about feminism, and it's like that for most mammals.
I use to, but I no longer protect women, except for the ones in my family. I would never protect any other woman.
Man are designed protectors, guardians of the weak. We must protect both women and children.
Why? What benefit do men get for such great sacrifice?
@NerdInDenial What do we benefit? Nothing. Why do we must benefit from everything. That you're a snowflake, who cares only about himself as you're weak and pathetic, its not my problem. If you can't act like a man, don't call yourself as one as you're just shaming us with your way of thinking.
How am I a snowflake? I’m not offended by what you stated. I’m just curious why you would sacrifice yourself for a social dry that demonizes men? Act like a man? Aren’t you the one who is shaming me and others? I understand sacrifice and willing to die for what I believe.
@NerdInDenial You're a snowflake, because you want benefit for protecting someone. You seemingly don't understand what a man's responsibility is. Actually you fear to take any responsibility if you don't see any benefit from it. That's why you're a snowflake. And do you know who can be demonized? Who let himself. Where I'm from men act like men, and whenever someone tries to demonize men or women, the other side stands up for them, willingly, without gaining any benefit. That's what a responsible society do.
So you’re saying mercenaries are snowflakes; how about the police?
you saying women are weak?
@Guardian412 You are incredibly ignorant in the process of biological evolution. Men benefit from putting themselves in danger in order to defend the women who offer qualities that men cannot.
@unboblievable Comparing to men, yes. Its standard biology. Okay, don't count the present snowflake "men" generation that is thin as a tree branch and cannot defend even themselves. But real men are always stronger than women. Its how nature built us. There is only a very few exception, but that's the general case.
@stuntbrain To protect the weaker sex or children is a natural instinct evolved under thousands of years. Its in our nature to protect them, without gaining anything from it. Of course don't count the present day snowflake generation as they can't protect even themselves. But as I needed to defend my girlfriend from a knife attacker with bare hands in the past, I know I didn't get any benefit from it, yet it was my instinct to protect her as its in man's nature to act and to defend.
thats so brave of you man, i wouldve used her as a shield personally, but well done, you deserved that bj
@unboblievable The only benefit from that incident that since that time I carry a Walther P99, so next time I won't have to fight with bare hands, but I simply shoot the attacker through without hesitation. But defending a woman won't give you any reward, like a BJ or anything similar. When you have a girlfriend sex is natural, so you won't earn sex by defending her, as its natural in a good relationship. Defending her in an attack give you one reward, that she stays unharmed and alive. And if you do good, you'll stay alive as well. That's the best outcome.
@Guardian412 You've proven that you don't have the slightest clue about biology, and how it relates to evolution. The concept of men being predisposed as protectors is derived from the benefits that are naturally selected in order to provide the greatest return to genetic stability.
@stuntbrain Since I needed to defend a woman from a knife attacker in the past with bare hands, I do know what I'm speaking of. I don't give a damn about your theories. When you get into a situation where you have to defend a woman, then theories, biology and other things won't matter a thing. There you either fight and defend her, and hopefully you stay alive, or you run and your girlfriend may end up dead. There is no third option. So when you don't have a life experience in this matter, please don't lecture me about how things really go in real life. I don't care about biology, nor concepts and theories. I care about only personal experience in this matter, what seemingly you don't have.
You'd try and... kill them? With a gun?
@unboblievable If someone threatens to kill you, what would you do? Beg for mercy? That won't ever work as if someone wants to fight, that will fight, regardless what the media loves to preach about "peaceful" solutions. There is no peaceful solution. In a situation like that its either you, your girlfriend or the attacker. I prefer to stay alive and I also prefer to keep my girlfriend alive. Of course if possible I rather shot the attacker in the leg, but if someone won't stop and still a threat, that must be stopped. That's how we learned in the police. When a bad guy decided to attack someone, that one also dropped the right to have any right what normal citizens have.
@Guardian412 For some reason you assume that you're unique in the anecdotal situation mentioned, you're not. Also, this isn't just my opinion, although I wish it was. The entire point I'm trying to make is that the decision to fight against a potential threat instead of retreating is biologically ingrained in males as a primary response to danger.
No, if someone was threatening me I would figure out why it is that they were threatening me
@stuntbrain I'm not unique at all. But as you clearly don't have any experience in this matter, I won't really accept your word in this matter either as you're speaking about theories and concepts, while in the reality you've no experience in this matter at all. However the reason I don't understand why you're fighting with me, because we clearly speaking about the very same thing, the biologically ingrained response to defend, to protect. That's what I said in the very beginning that man was "designed" this way.
@unboblievable You won't have time to figure out things. Sometimes seconds decides between life and death. If you start to think, you may end up dead. Plain and simple. I know that liberal teaching is this what you believe in, but trust me, on the streets this way of liberal thinking end up you in a body bag. The reason why you won't ever figure out why people is threatening you is this; sometimes there is no reason behind the attacks. They're attacking people just because, without any true reason. For some idiot attacking others is the way of life, or an evil hobby if you prefer.
Yeah I Know what you mean, sometimes I friendly fire just for the fun of it
@Guardianr412 No one has been in your exact scenario, and I admit that you made the respectable decision to fight. So you're right, we agree on some things, yet strongly disagree on the factors that influence our decisions. Pure altruism does not meet the criteria for natural selection.
@stuntbrain there have been plenty people in worse situations. How about being stuck in foreign waters with their guns drawn at you?
@NerdInDenial Of course there have, much worse in fact.
@stuntbrain well he protected his girlfriend, so it's likely not come out of pure altruism, that said, he clearly prove his worth as a man by doing it, instead of being wimp and/or egoist.
@Berethor The entire point I'm making is that the decision to protect is not based in altruism. There are evolutionary benefits to acting as a protector.
@stuntbrain sure, the fact that women tend to prefer strong men to begin with is one of those benefits. There is some people who act out of pure altruism, but not many.
tvtropes.org/.../WomenPreferStrongMen
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RescueRomance
@Berethor altruism is in direct conflict with natural selection
Without a doubt. Men are biologically designed with a drive to act as protectors.
I would protect my own and then if need be, everyone else that i can save from harm - men, women, and children.
I hate the term protector. It gives the impression one is hoping for fights and picking fights so they can "protect". It's an uptight attitude.
Not really, there is enough dangers in the world without seeking for them.
@Berethor The protector attitude gives me the impression that they're glad dangers exist