Bill Clinton: The Lady Killer
Do Men Have Responsibility or Duty to Protect Women and Children?
Bill Clinton: The Lady Killer
It is wrong to think men should protect all women, or even all children. If a man dies to protect the life of a stranger, he fails his family that counts on him. His loved ones should count a hell of a lot more, than than any number of strangers. In nature strangers were typically competitors for resources, if not outright enemies. To tell a man it is his place to risk his life for a stranger, is to tell him that his life counts for less, than any random stranger he will ever encounter.
Men only have a responsibility to protect the people in his inner circle. His family and friends for the most part will be the ones that fall under that category. The women, children and men in his inner circle should all fall under his protection. That is the natural order, because humans evolved to exist in smaller tribes.
In fact you can often see this natural order in play in many dangerous areas, where a woman will be walking with men she knows for protection, while men she doesn't know will try to harass her. Strangers instinctively are to either be feared, destroyed, or enslaved. This is why the human race has such a bloody dark past. Humans didn't evolve to get along in huge city sized populations. The men that are protectors of society are the police, military, firefighters, etc. They fill the gap in protecting society at large, and would not be needed if humans still lived in the environment we evolved in.
Good irony you got there, by putting Clinton in that question.
This goes to the core of men biology. They feel the need to protect the females, children, and even other men who look weaker. A friend of mine once told me, one of the reasons why there were no females in the battlefield was because men will feel the need to protect them and hence placing unnecessarily danger in the males lives.
With that been said, I feel men do what they feel biologically right, and norms and customs my rise around that, hence why you see often men protecting women and children.
Do they have the responsability or dury to do so?
No, unless special circumstances say otherwise.
Good irony you got there, by putting Clinton in that question.
Not everyone is smart enough to understand that lol
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Now that I think about it, that lady on the picture looks identical to a young Monica lewinsky ๐
Yeah she's Monica ๐ ๐
Yes. Men have the advantage of physical strength over women and children. Seriously, instead of misusing it on harassing women and abusing children, use it to give protection. Because this is what we should do for a better world. Whatever you are capable of, make the most of it and help other people with it.
I once read a myTake in here where a woman wrote that she appreciates men helping her with carrying heavy objects, and in return she herself would help with whatever she is more capable of. I always believed in it but couldn't have said it better myself. I myself always help people with whatever I can. I know all girls aren't strong but I am, and I carry heavy sacs of rice and potatoes (I'm stronger than my brother lol so I carry heavier stuff even though he's 25). I also have a flexible body and it comes so handy when someone drops their pen in a place impossible to reach but I manage to bend in there and get it out in seconds LOL. I know it's funny but I seriously help people when they drop their pens. 😂
So yes, men in general should help women and children.
We might be more likely to protect you if we wasn't worried of being accused of harrassment for helping
@johnboymuscles well regarding that, I have one pro tip:
If either of you are getting stubborn at a point, then you better leave. Only exceptions are emergencies.
OK, it is not absolutely necessary to help women outside of your family and friends. But what about your close ones?
Just leave anyway. Let her drown in her own stubborness
@johnboymuscles lol true. If a woman gets stubborn or you see yourself getting stubborn that's where you know things are taking the wrong turn.
Last month my family and I all went abroad for travelling. My father and I used to take our bags, put them in the trolley or take out from the baggage etc work. In one airport, I was taking out the luggage by myself and one man in the airport stopped me and did it himself. I could understand why he would do that. I had a strong urge to tell him that it's fine I can do it but thought that it would be a waste of my time and energy so I didn't. Most people have issues with managing their ego/arrogance and this seriously applies to both genders. I have my own bad times as well, I admit.
Arrogance is cancer.
From my own experience, I don't walk around using men as a shield, but I have been in some situations where a man, either a friend, family member, or total stranger, has stepped in on my behalf to attempt to protect me from harm or harassment. Did I say, oh don't help me, I'm independent, I can do whatever, no because I really did need the help and I appreciated that.
I think it's simply called being a decent human being. I don't think a guy generally sets out to say, I protect women and children, but most people, not just guys, would step in to protect or help someone else in need because they feel the desire to help in their hearts. I can say I've done the absolute same for anyone who needed it.
Yes yes because men are stronger naturally and they are so so awesome! they can do that
I'm cringing a bit, haha... but you can think what you want.
Flattery will get you on the first lifeboat lol
That's not true. You're cuter ^^
If a woman worked out and got buff, she'd be stronger than the average man.
@Uhhjsshshdh I agree. Woman who want to be great can be great.
You should be more confident in your own gender Nicky.
Lol don't be a suck up I'm not risking my life for no stranger
(Feels a little heart broken T_T)
I wish women were naturally as strong as men, it would take a lot of burden off of guys. I'm all for women working out and getting buff.
@That1tallguy I agree that you should not risk his life for some random stranger. Value your own life.
@Uhhjsshshdh I wish I could be strong and look cute at the same time, but big muscles aren't all that pretty.
I kinda respect the guy who downvoted this. Sorry, Nicky.
I still followed you though cause you're still cute...
@Uhhjsshshdh not really, on average a man has almost 60% greater upper body strength then a woman and almost 50% greater lower body strength. Our skin is 25% thicker, our bones are also denser making our skeletal structure more resilient as well as our skin. We have fewer pain receptors and better capacity to deal with both physical pain and mental stress (which is why women are twice as likely to get PTSD then their male counter parts (and during the study the women had not even been on the frontlines as the men had)). Our bone structure in our face is more pronounced making it more resilient to blunt trauma. Males are also less adverse to negative stimuli meaning they are more willing to put themselves in dangerous situations, more able to do things that might physically harm them or scare them etc. all of which is necessary to put ones self in dangerous situations. We are built quite literally to fight and protect, its in our genetics and we cannot escape that.
@hellionthesagereborn "capacity to deal with mental stress" I think that's untrue. Emotionally, men are just as vulnerable as women.
This girl is sexist to her own gender lol
This is what you call a kiss up to men
Sorry, but girls who are doormats are useless. Girls who are independent and tomboyish are badass.
I would never save a girl from danger; she can save herself.
Lol and girls with strap ons are awesome for a sub like you huh
I'm not a doormat, and I don't depend on anyone, and I am "tomboyish" in many things, but there's nothing wrong with knowing facts. Men ARE naturally stronger, they ARE cabale of it more than women and children. They ARE built for providing protection. But probably not a man like you. Sorry, but wuss men are useless.
Find a man who likes the Princess in Distress types lol
@MidnightCowboy and @NickyBBB seem to have lowkey sexual tension for each other. I sense a kiss coming to end their argument.
@Uhhjsshshdh Lol nope
@Uhhjsshshdh men are stronger both on average, and in terms of potential, an woman is not going to get as much muscle mass as a man from a worked out, unless she takes male hormones.
@nickyBBB if he use her strength only for self defense, then it's okay, but if she counts on waif-fu, it's works only in movies. In any case most women do not buff themselves anyway.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WaifFu
@nickyBBB my point is women that are paranoid or are more concerned about safety than others, they should take it upon themselves to bulk up and get buff.
I agree. I don't want to look buff. I'm into girls though, so I don't expect any man to protect me.
@Uhhjsshshdh you didn't take into consideration that most people don't see it as pretty for women, and that's one of the reasons that girls don't want to be muscular.
@ScarletAngelic well that's because you are only into girls/femininity. ;)
@Uhhjsshshdh Its not about what you think, its about what is. As I said multiple studies done across cultures have all shown that men handle stress far better then women. Again I would point out the study where women who where not in combat where twice as likely to have post traumatic stress then the men who where actually in combat. Again, we know for a fact that men handle stress better then women, its just the way we are. Their is nothing wrong with that, in fact I find it rather sad that people think women have to be exactly like men or they are some how inferior, they are not we are just built for two different tasks.
@Uhhjsshshdh Again, the only way a woman is going to beat the average man is if she has at least 70% greater muscle mass then the average woman (highly unlikely) and even then you still run into the issue of her having lower bone density making her far less resilient to damage. So no, a buff woman at best will be as strong as the average man (and keep in mind that if you where to place a man against a woman the man will always hold back because again we are built to protect and as such are far more inclined to hold back if confronted by a violent woman). You would need a woman who was above average in strength and a man below average in strength for the woman to be able to have a fair chance against him if we are talking about just brute force.
@nickyBBB He was replying to " "capacity to deal with mental stress" I think that's untrue. Emotionally, men are just as vulnerable as women. " not my comments about women getting buff
touche for what?
Can't tell if your serious. Like it was a good point, or you disagree but I'm going to say good point anyway to end the conversation.
@hellionthesagereborn Yes, please end the convo. I'm getting a headache from all the notifications
@hellionthesagereborn I don't know. I've seen guys who handle stress way worse than me lol
@Uhhjsshshdh Then don't pay attention to them. That's kind of an inevitability on this site. @ScarletAngelic says you and people have a natural bias that favors them over all others. Scientific data shows otherwise, obviously their is always going to be individual variation but in general just as males are physically stronger then women and more resilient with higher thresholds for pain men are also generally more resilient when it comes to stress.
In today's society, no. He may get accused of sexual harassment in 20 years
This is totally true. Women are actually less likely to receive CPR than a man, simply because men are too afraid to even touch a woman to save her life at this point.
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That's true! I'd hate to be a man in this day and age... for the simple fact that even helping a woman in today's society could turn into him facing a lawsuit
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everyone should be in the business of protecting women to the best of their ability.
i'd protect a woman the same way i'd protect a man... up until the point that my own personal safety is at risk
Well how do we define duty and responsibility? I would simply state that we are biologically inclined towards it so its rather inescapable as its in our DNA. I would also point out that the reason we do so is because women dictate the speed of reproduction and as such harm to women harms the species. For example, if we have ten women and ten men and nine men die we can still produce ten offspring but if nine women die, even with ten men (or more) you can still only get one offspring. This necessitates that men be the one to take the greater risk as we are far more expendable from a reproductive standpoint then women. That stated we shouldn't do it without something in return. The fact is if we make sacrifices and those sacrifices are not respected then what we have done is not only harmed ourselves but society and our species as we now have shown that selfishness is rewarding and our entire species relies on selflessness to survive. So while we have a duty to protect, that does not make it an entitlement for women, if that makes sense.
@Berethor Sort of. Not saying don't protect them, just afterwards remind them that they live because you allowed it so they don't get an over inflated ego (as I feel a lot of women have now a days). Or you could pull a sean connory on her if she after the fact claims she is a strong independent woman who doesn't need a man (though that's liable to get you in trouble).
I personally don't believe that it is solely one gender's responsibility to protect those who need protecting. I think it's more of a individual's characteristics to WANT to save someone. Person A could just walk by not giving a flying fuck while Person B darts over to ask if they need help, are they hurt, do they need medical attention or simply to ask if they are okay. Caring for a fellow human being must be paramount otherwise just keeping waling because I am sure most people would be like "Well, shit this ain't my business!" or "It wasn't my place to get involved". If you can do something about a particular situation where a person is in need of help then I believe by all means help. It should NOT fall under a man's or woman's responsibility.
I believe (to me), the deciding factor is ability. Do you have the ability to save a life, or protect one? If yes, then you have a duty. Not an obligation, but a duty.
@daanderson911 Being able to save one's life is great, but the fact that even if someone tried to help & even failed in doing so says volumes about that person too. Even if the person could not be able to help, the person in need of help will at least KNOW that someone is putting an effort in wanting to. Not disagreeing with you just wanting to put out another perspective.
You're exactly right. I don't mean to imply that you don't have a duty to try if you aren't going to be successful. I mean to say that an elderly grandmother in a wheelchair doesn't have a duty to act in the same way a firefighter would react in a fire. If that makes sense, but I absolutely agree with you.
No more rights over them, or to them- no custody, no alimony, no incentives, no positives AT ALL- means that we should be absolved of our responsibilities and duties to them. Not any more. I am NO-ONE's slave or lap-dog. They want to preach about equality, want to constantly scream "WE DON'T NEED YOU! FUCK MEN, FUCK THEM ALL, NONE OF US NEED MEN!"? Fine- then you can bloody well fare on your own, without the slightest bit of aid or protection from me. And that goes double for protecting those children which you demand sole custody over, solely out of spite, hatred or disdain for their fathers. You're equal? PROVE IT. You don't need anything from any man? PROVE IT. Children don't need fathers anyway? PROVE IT. Cause none of you are ever getting one jot of help from me, ever again. Fend for yourselves.
We are supposed to protect them, it's in our genetics!
That's TRUE masculinity if you didn't know (Male Justin Bieber fans TRIGGERED)😂
I won't mind at all dying to protect my crush, it would be so fuckin' epic to die in front of her face in the midst of conflict!🔥🔥
I can now imagine that we are walking together in the dark in the woods and suddenly we were attacked by a bear...
Luckily, I had "Run Through The Jungle" playing at full blast in my headphones while I was wrestling with the bear!😎😎😎
I should be the one protecting the girl in the pic. It'd look badass heehee.
Generally it's expected from a man, but an independent strong woman like Anita Sarkeesian need no man to protect her, as can be seen in the picture below. :)
All adults should protect children. Adults should be capable to taking care of themselves, regardless of gender.
What about men protecting women?
Is that Bill and Monica? Lol. Nah, but foreal nowadays girls are claiming not to need guys for that anymore. I guess laws and rules enforce themselves because women definitely aren't the ones enforcing them. Sure there's a female cop here and there. A few female soldiers as well - But "none" are on the front lines. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't ask most guys to be body guards either. But I would be a fool to hire female body guards over male.
Yeah, It's guys responsibility as a whole to protect the nation.
I might get thumbs down but I would love to hear arguments.
@nickyBBB You're not pathetic at all..
Yes. That's Bill and Monica
Lmao..
Not a random man to protect a random
Woman but a husbands duty to protect his children and wife yes.
So you not a fan of the dulcinea effect princess? :)
tvtropes.org/.../TheDulcineaEffect
Yes
As much as its anyone responsibility to protect life man, woman, kids, mutants
All to one and one to all
Google Bill Clinton: The Lady killer and you'll find your answer
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no cuz people can do whatever the fuck they want, they dont need to be constricted by these bullshit notions of how they should behave based on physical uncontrollable characteristics like sex, race, etc.
I think everyone has a responsibility to protect children. I don't really think men have the responsibility to protect women but it's generally not a bad thing to help out others regardless of their gender.
Double standards exist for a reason. The strong should protect the weak, not exploit them. Any man who would not protect his family is not a man at all.
Its ironic. U want men to protect women and children and then u feminists come up with anti male bullshit stuff.
by the way im not talking about u asker
If your talking about women in general like a stranger then hell No! Why should her life have more value then mine? If we're talking about friends and family then yea 4sure I'll look out for you regardless of gender.
Personally i think everyone should have a responsibility to look out for everyone but if the man is the stronger one or if heโs the breadwinner than it falls on him
People have a moral obligation to look out for each other gender doesnโt really need to play into it.
Also bill Clinton was pretty hard core anti-gunโฆ
Nope.
Women wanted male privilege. Well they got male privilege. That means no more special treatment by men.
I have voted for the first answer , because it has always been like this...
No matter what radical feminists want to believe and preach , men from the antiquity till 1800s were the only who went to war and fought for their country and families (women and children). So yes it is a custom... I am not saying that women cannot fight or protect themselves , just men doing it better.
Yes. But women have a similar obligation. All within our individual powers.
About your update: I did not see earlier, that you mean THAT sort of protection. Putting a condom on a cigar will not hurt, though
No it wasn't talking about THAT sort of protection. I was talking in general :) tho loved this image
*love
The image is ok. But in this context Billy Boy Clinton is a somewhat dubious example.
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