I’m not entirely sure, I think it has something to do with purity and your husband being the first one. Notice how men’s virginity isn’t prided on, though :/
Simple because its easy to be a whore when your a woman because men are trying to fuck you, so staying a virgin shows you can be trusted and have integrity. However the reality is that a lot of women who do stay virgin until they get married still cheat later, Because every woman is a whore if you catch her on the day.
Well, in my experience, women who have had a few sex partners tend to be pickier about sex. I’ve been with virgins who said the sex was absolutely amazing and every time we kept having sex, they loved it. I’ve also been with women who have quite a bit of sex partners and sex with them isn’t that great because they are too picky about everything and very particular about sex, which takes the fun out of it. Experienced women want better sexual experiences and are easier to disappoint if the sex isn’t where it needs to be. Virgin women or women who have had sex a few times aren’t that picky about sex and are open to a lot of things.
It's an old concept that just kinda got stuck in people's mentality. Probably before when you were uneducated woman whose only purpose was to serve her husband and give birth to babies, your purity and chastity were things you could offer to your husband.
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Because no sane guy would ever marry a whore. And only a girls virginity can show she is not one. You can't tell with other ones whether there was one or one billion guys before you.
First of all. There is no real way to determine if a woman is a virgin just by looking at her vagina (unless she has an STI that's a clear indication). All those things about barriers in the vagina breaking after having sex is bullshit. It's a myth.
And even if there was. Being a non-virgin wouldn't make you a whore cos all of our mothers here are non virgin and I doubt they're whores. at least mine. Even virgins can be whores. Just cos they haven't lost it vaginally doesn't mean they haven't lost it orally or anally.
I wish I could find the scientific study that proved women lose their ability to pairbond after having multiple partners. In those parts of the world it is still accepted because it has been ingrained into their culture by their forefathers who had figured this out by observation.
1. Make ego 2. Women are supposed to raise the children and men the bread earners. So women are expected to educate their children and imbibe good deeds in them for the better of society. Since polygamy is not acceptable in society openly, no one wants their children to learn one such bad deed from their mother
The expectation that most women be virgins has changed in many parts of Asia, by the way.
I think it's due to the very outmoded thinking that a non-virgin woman is "used goods" and to ensure that paternity is assured when a child is born to her. Parents and other relatives married under the traditional thinking are often wedded to it and expect their children to follow the tradition as well.
Because women are the vessels for offspring and through history have been seen as a part of beauties meaning. In doing so virginity in Christian culture is important and was relevant through the ages until the end of the 19th century. Basically women are pretty and christianity made it sinful to lose your virginity before marriage (infamy at its finest)
Can anyone spend some time with me to talk about women dressing and whatever related to their sexuality? I would like broaden up my knowledge. To be specific, I would like to learn and accept Western culture. Any kind, generous one to talk with me? Both genders are welcomed
First, virgin can be defined as someone who hasn't had sex, but that only tell you what a virgin isn't, so what is a virgin? I heard another definition that I liked, "someone who is totally ready for union." In this understanding, I think it is obvious that that kind of person is desirable. One other comment is, obviously since the 70s in the US, we pretty much threw out the idea of waiting for marriage and now we have the highest rates of infidelity, divorce and it seems everyone talks about how terrible marriage is because they didn't enter into it with the right intentions, and they were not totally ready for union.
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In the past, when people didn't have contraception, people didn't want their daughters to have offsprings without being married. So they started controlling their sexuality. In male-dominated countries, it is still OK to do that. In my country, it is still important and I save myself not for the God or my future husband but because I am afraid of what people are going to talk behind my back about my parents. If it wasn't that I would have probably done at uni with my crush (btw we broke up cause he was from another country and in his country it was not big deal)
Women can be offended all they want, but men will always be possessive with the women they love, and knowing your woman has been used by a ton of other guys isn't a great feeling. All these sexually liberated women can sleep with whoever they choose, but they can't get mad when other men judge them. They're entitled to their judgement and women will almost always lower their value by sleeping around carelessly.
Virgins have traditionally been thought as pure. And of course it’s mainly women. So culture believes it’s the Ultimate pure thing a women can have there mind isn’t corrupted by the touch of a man so they must be able to doing thing with that purity like have visions of the future (that’s just Ancient Greece). Many more religious put an inferences on virgins but ultimately the reason in that it’s pure. And do to religious beliefs the idea of purity has had its influence through out time
Because guys love sex and women are supposed to not love sex so getting a girl that will have sex with you and no other guys makes you feel great. In my opinion sex should regarded as a spiritual practice but that doesn’t necessarily mean you should only do it with one person just someone you love
It's important because virgin men seeks someone virgin as well. It's more fun two couples exploring themselves to something new they've never experienced in their lives. And the feeling of blessing is different. I'm still virgin as a man & hope for same. It would not be fun with someone who's already had a master's degree on it for me, as that feels dominant and one sided instead of two sided exploration & discovery.
Until recently, virginity was the best/only way to increase your likelihood of not getting an STI and increasing the likelihood that all the children were (at least initially) yours.
In addition, girls got married much earlier (remember Juliet was 14) AND menarche usually started later, so it was only a matter of keeping an eye on them for a year or two after full puberty.
This became the "right thing" and was incorporated into tradition.
Yeah female sexual attraction to men is zerosome compared to male sexual attraction to women. Women complain about being sex objects... but they innately are. If they weren't life would be far harder for women.
Dating would be much harder for them. They wouldn't be able to attach themselves to a man and live off his income. They would be treated far worse in general. Wouldn't you like to have a much higher sexual value?
That might sound sexist, but when you think about, considering the fact that some of the most difficult important things have historically been done by males e. g. fighting wars, providing etc (although in this day and age the providing part is starting to change in western nations) I'd say yes. But with now warning more and more, I do think that standard of them only having worth for sexual value will change
Men traditionally did those things because they needed to achieve to get a mate while women just had to exist. Monogamy was also more rare at that time so one man got multiple women and a lot of men never reproduced. Now that we have monogamy as a mainstay of dating most men get a women, but we still have to do far more than women to attract a mate.
@Markfish Statistically in at least 70% or higher of couples one partner or the other or both have sex outside the relationship at some point. How is monogamy a mainstay?
@Markfish Like I said you need to update your info so you would know where the. 70% comes from. Historically people were socially monogamous and sexually non monogamous and it was just fine. Now that term cheating is used loosley and that 70% sounds bad. It is not. It's just the redefinition or the lack of a solid definition of what cheating is that's causing a lot of confusion. What is cheating for one is a perfectly healthy sex life for another. That's why I said partners will have sex with other people but that does not mean they are cheating.
When I say mongomous, I mean sexually monogamous. So yeah still cheating. Men don't have the sexual value women do so sexual polygamy is not in their best interest.
And to the girl that posted the original comment pussy is highly valued period in a sex only sense, once a vagina has had a lot of dick, it loses it's value for commitment.
@Markfish thats a lie we are sexually attracted to men. a lot of women care about being wanted by men. Care about being beautiful to men (even though some deny it). Thats a lot of power. But women are definitely turned on more by security, and protection from men, so its more less physical than men. But sex skills in bed is VERY important to women as well. We require more for sexual attraction men require faaaaar less. I dont know if its nature or nurture. But it just is like that
@Markfish all men have to do is be funny, sex right, support and understand his woman, spend mone Y and protect her and provide. Thats not much. Women have to look cute/sexy, have personality and sex at least ok and listen to his problems.
@mateus false. Its plentiful and high value. The only woman who lowers her vagina value is her buy giving it away with no expectations whether it be commitment and live or money. No woman should EVER be broke or homeless when she sitting on a gold mine, her pussy. There maybe tons of pussy but that dont mean u get anyone u want.
@Markfish that too. And men body subconsciously looks for fertile women to impregnate. EVEN THO CONSCIOUSLY HE THINKS ITS JUST LUST OR SEX AND DONT WANT KIDS.
Didn't say women weren't sexually attracted to men, I said men are far more sexually attracted to women than vice versa. And yeah prostitutes get married, but most men would not marry one, men who do have heavy baggage themselves or are extremely desperate. And you are painting all women to be prostitutes anyway "turned mors on by security" and how we need to provide for you, if financial security turns you on and a man needs to provide for you before you sleep with him, you are a prostitute yourself, he is paying you.
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Because having sex with a tight pussy is better than having sex with a pussy that looks like Mick Jagger/Steve Tyler's lips.
Vagina tightness does not change due to sex.
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I’m not entirely sure, I think it has something to do with purity and your husband being the first one. Notice how men’s virginity isn’t prided on, though :/
Simple because its easy to be a whore when your a woman because men are trying to fuck you, so staying a virgin shows you can be trusted and have integrity. However the reality is that a lot of women who do stay virgin until they get married still cheat later, Because every woman is a whore if you catch her on the day.
Nice.
So you can either be a virgin or a whore?
Im not any of those.
Well, in my experience, women who have had a few sex partners tend to be pickier about sex. I’ve been with virgins who said the sex was absolutely amazing and every time we kept having sex, they loved it. I’ve also been with women who have quite a bit of sex partners and sex with them isn’t that great because they are too picky about everything and very particular about sex, which takes the fun out of it. Experienced women want better sexual experiences and are easier to disappoint if the sex isn’t where it needs to be. Virgin women or women who have had sex a few times aren’t that picky about sex and are open to a lot of things.
So basically a virgin is easier to please and isn’t going to tell you when you’re doing a shit job in bed? 🧐
@Babsie1984 There is no such thing as bad sex. Just because someone's sex style doesn't work for you doesn't make you bad.
It's an old concept that just kinda got stuck in people's mentality. Probably before when you were uneducated woman whose only purpose was to serve her husband and give birth to babies, your purity and chastity were things you could offer to your husband.
Because no sane guy would ever marry a whore. And only a girls virginity can show she is not one. You can't tell with other ones whether there was one or one billion guys before you.
First of all. There is no real way to determine if a woman is a virgin just by looking at her vagina (unless she has an STI that's a clear indication). All those things about barriers in the vagina breaking after having sex is bullshit. It's a myth.
And even if there was. Being a non-virgin wouldn't make you a whore cos all of our mothers here are non virgin and I doubt they're whores. at least mine. Even virgins can be whores. Just cos they haven't lost it vaginally doesn't mean they haven't lost it orally or anally.
@jc_miller jc is correct. Hymens break for many reasons, so...
Preach brother.
I wish I could find the scientific study that proved women lose their ability to pairbond after having multiple partners. In those parts of the world it is still accepted because it has been ingrained into their culture by their forefathers who had figured this out by observation.
i can't understand why so much people think bad about this it is not about controll it is not about health
for me it is just about feeling special for someone i love men don't have this thing but i will never lose it with anyone i just met met for sex
the world works like this the precious things have more value
in the end it is a choise and way to live... not your bussniess
1. Make ego
2. Women are supposed to raise the children and men the bread earners. So women are expected to educate their children and imbibe good deeds in them for the better of society. Since polygamy is not acceptable in society openly, no one wants their children to learn one such bad deed from their mother
The expectation that most women be virgins has changed in many parts of Asia, by the way.
I think it's due to the very outmoded thinking that a non-virgin woman is "used goods" and to ensure that paternity is assured when a child is born to her. Parents and other relatives married under the traditional thinking are often wedded to it and expect their children to follow the tradition as well.
Because women are the vessels for offspring and through history have been seen as a part of beauties meaning. In doing so virginity in Christian culture is important and was relevant through the ages until the end of the 19th century. Basically women are pretty and christianity made it sinful to lose your virginity before marriage (infamy at its finest)
Can anyone spend some time with me to talk about women dressing and whatever related to their sexuality? I would like broaden up my knowledge. To be specific, I would like to learn and accept Western culture. Any kind, generous one to talk with me? Both genders are welcomed
What sort of things do you want to know?
Hi.. Sorry for the very late reply. Well I would like to talk about differences in cultures and thinkings
Ok then, just ask a question and ill try to tell you about the culture (not that we really have a very prominatnt culture)
And i can only really tell you about the things i have experienedand encountered where i live which will not be the same in all western areas
Sure.. I'm glad that you volunteer yourself to help me... Which one you prefer? Private conversation or here?
I dont mind
@Classicallycool I'm sorry. Your setting only allows messages from people whom you follow. I can't message you.
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First, virgin can be defined as someone who hasn't had sex, but that only tell you what a virgin isn't, so what is a virgin? I heard another definition that I liked, "someone who is totally ready for union." In this understanding, I think it is obvious that that kind of person is desirable.
One other comment is, obviously since the 70s in the US, we pretty much threw out the idea of waiting for marriage and now we have the highest rates of infidelity, divorce and it seems everyone talks about how terrible marriage is because they didn't enter into it with the right intentions, and they were not totally ready for union.
In the past, when people didn't have contraception, people didn't want their daughters to have offsprings without being married. So they started controlling their sexuality. In male-dominated countries, it is still OK to do that. In my country, it is still important and I save myself not for the God or my future husband but because I am afraid of what people are going to talk behind my back about my parents. If it wasn't that I would have probably done at uni with my crush (btw we broke up cause he was from another country and in his country it was not big deal)
Women can be offended all they want, but men will always be possessive with the women they love, and knowing your woman has been used by a ton of other guys isn't a great feeling. All these sexually liberated women can sleep with whoever they choose, but they can't get mad when other men judge them. They're entitled to their judgement and women will almost always lower their value by sleeping around carelessly.
Freedom comes with consequences.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Virgins have traditionally been thought as pure. And of course it’s mainly women. So culture believes it’s the Ultimate pure thing a women can have there mind isn’t corrupted by the touch of a man so they must be able to doing thing with that purity like have visions of the future (that’s just Ancient Greece). Many more religious put an inferences on virgins but ultimately the reason in that it’s pure. And do to religious beliefs the idea of purity has had its influence through out time
Because guys love sex and women are supposed to not love sex so getting a girl that will have sex with you and no other guys makes you feel great. In my opinion sex should regarded as a spiritual practice but that doesn’t necessarily mean you should only do it with one person just someone you love
It's important because virgin men seeks someone virgin as well. It's more fun two couples exploring themselves to something new they've never experienced in their lives. And the feeling of blessing is different. I'm still virgin as a man & hope for same. It would not be fun with someone who's already had a master's degree on it for me, as that feels dominant and one sided instead of two sided exploration & discovery.
Until recently, virginity was the best/only way to increase your likelihood of not getting an STI and increasing the likelihood that all the children were (at least initially) yours.
In addition, girls got married much earlier (remember Juliet was 14) AND menarche usually started later, so it was only a matter of keeping an eye on them for a year or two after full puberty.
This became the "right thing" and was incorporated into tradition.
our pussy is highly valuable PERIOD, because men make it so.
Yeah female sexual attraction to men is zerosome compared to male sexual attraction to women. Women complain about being sex objects... but they innately are. If they weren't life would be far harder for women.
Hmm, in what way would life be farharder for women?
Dating would be much harder for them. They wouldn't be able to attach themselves to a man and live off his income. They would be treated far worse in general. Wouldn't you like to have a much higher sexual value?
Without sexual value, women have very little value.
That might sound sexist, but when you think about, considering the fact that some of the most difficult important things have historically been done by males e. g. fighting wars, providing etc (although in this day and age the providing part is starting to change in western nations) I'd say yes. But with now warning more and more, I do think that standard of them only having worth for sexual value will change
Men traditionally did those things because they needed to achieve to get a mate while women just had to exist. Monogamy was also more rare at that time so one man got multiple women and a lot of men never reproduced. Now that we have monogamy as a mainstay of dating most men get a women, but we still have to do far more than women to attract a mate.
Is it. There is pussy everywhere these days. Supply and demand dictates it is not so valuable.
It's the fact that eggs are more rare than sperm that makes pussy worth more than dick.
@Markfish I'm not trying to have more kids so I don't care about the eggs. If I'm only after the pussy it's not so valuble. I can get it anywhere.
@Markfish Statistically in at least 70% or higher of couples one partner or the other or both have sex outside the relationship at some point. How is monogamy a mainstay?
Cheating doesn't mean the model isn't monogamy, would you call cheating once a polygamist relationship? Also highly doubt 70%.
@Markfish Like I said you need to update your info so you would know where the. 70% comes from. Historically people were socially monogamous and sexually non monogamous and it was just fine. Now that term cheating is used loosley and that 70% sounds bad. It is not. It's just the redefinition or the lack of a solid definition of what cheating is that's causing a lot of confusion. What is cheating for one is a perfectly healthy sex life for another. That's why I said partners will have sex with other people but that does not mean they are cheating.
When I say mongomous, I mean sexually monogamous. So yeah still cheating. Men don't have the sexual value women do so sexual polygamy is not in their best interest.
And to the girl that posted the original comment pussy is highly valued period in a sex only sense, once a vagina has had a lot of dick, it loses it's value for commitment.
@Markfish thats a lie we are sexually attracted to men. a lot of women care about being wanted by men. Care about being beautiful to men (even though some deny it). Thats a lot of power. But women are definitely turned on more by security, and protection from men, so its more less physical than men. But sex skills in bed is VERY important to women as well. We require more for sexual attraction men require faaaaar less. I dont know if its nature or nurture. But it just is like that
@Markfish thats a lie women have a lot of value men just tend to zoom in on our vaginas
@wiswcrow it can be. Society judges women much harsher than men. Men are allowed more freedom without his reputation being on the line
@Markfish all men have to do is be funny, sex right, support and understand his woman, spend mone
Y and protect her and provide. Thats not much. Women have to look cute/sexy, have personality and sex at least ok and listen to his problems.
@mateus false. Its plentiful and high value. The only woman who lowers her vagina value is her buy giving it away with no expectations whether it be commitment and live or money. No woman should EVER be broke or homeless when she sitting on a gold mine, her pussy. There maybe tons of pussy but that dont mean u get anyone u want.
@Markfish that too. And men body subconsciously looks for fertile women to impregnate. EVEN THO CONSCIOUSLY HE THINKS ITS JUST LUST OR SEX AND DONT WANT KIDS.
@Markfish thats a lie prostitutes/escorts eventually get married or have a man and becomes somebody mom
Didn't say women weren't sexually attracted to men, I said men are far more sexually attracted to women than vice versa. And yeah prostitutes get married, but most men would not marry one, men who do have heavy baggage themselves or are extremely desperate. And you are painting all women to be prostitutes anyway "turned mors on by security" and how we need to provide for you, if financial security turns you on and a man needs to provide for you before you sleep with him, you are a prostitute yourself, he is paying you.