You are right, very intelligent guy and all that he says is true - My only fear between the too strong push of "Believe All Women" becomes a too strong backlash "Believe All Men" , what I mean is that for next 12 to 18 months every man that is accused especially those of a right/conservative persuasion will scream hit job or fake news, will all these men be innocent, no but they will be backed publicly by a vociferous group maybe even frightening future women coming forward who are genuine victims. The blame for this is probably shared by both sides.
The only way out I can see but maybe we are past the point of no return to avoid the court of public opinion especially in internet age is to take all allegations seriously, investigate them privately then when a ruling has been made it is up to whoever ruling favoured to go public or not and in what form a sexual assault charge or a perverting the course of justice charge for false claim (or whatever charge is apt). In the current scenario there are a lot of losers and not many winners
Yes, investigations and unveiling of the truth and facts are important, but that doesn’t mean you believe victim or supposed perpetrator. You conduct the investigation to unveil the truth, without subscribing to any side. You’re neutral. I think in the recent climate of the #metoo movement, you’re seeing a much more biased siding, in which a woman’s testimony is gospel and anyone who questions it or calls bluff, is seen as insensitive, sexist, etc.
That is why though probably impossible to take it out of public eye - Authorities could run an investigation from the point of view of taking allegation seriously and the presumption of innocence till proven guilty
Ben Shapiro is spot on, not just in this video, but in every one of his videos I've watched.
Agreed
I love Ben Shapiro, but I don't agree with this particular statement from him. I do not think we should throw those who are accused under the bus right away either, rather, I think women truly need to stop being scared shitless of reporting the rape as SOON as they can in order to fix the grander issue. People don't believe you, but don't take fifteen years to merely make a statement on a person. You need actual evidence. If you truly have been raped, please destroy that son of a bitch's life and GIVE PROOF, not testimony worth for shit. It might not be that simple but why go through all the effort of waiting years just to go through media coverage and people sending you death threats? Do it then and now!
This is reasonable. Allow me if you will to take the long road in analyzing this issue. Most liberal women would say we don't want the government in the bedroom. Most people period, would say we don't want the government in the bedroom. I'm going to be that jerk (intellectually) and point out that laws regarding sexual activity is just that :D.
Now of course, we want to keep people safe in their sexual activities, there inlies the dichotomy. At the same time, we can estimate that most rapes/sexual assaults are not the horrific ones we hear about in documentaries or flims. Rather, 'regret' is all the latest rage lately! Which is intellectually absurd, and morally gray. If you regret having sex with a guy, you were not violated. You just made a bad decision. Tough it up, and move on. It's no different than kissing a dude, and regretting the kiss. Unless of course there's other consequences (pregnancies, etc). There's a difference between regretting consent and being violated.
Ben Shapiro is definitely one of my favorite public figures. I agree completely with what he’s saying.
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If you can't find anyone as smart as Ben Shapiro dude, I feel sorry for you.
All Ben did was make up a strawman, just like you have and routinely do.
The phrase "believe women" comes from the long history of not believing women when it comes investigating sexual crimes. Basically, all that is being asked is that investigators not ignore facts. I don't even have to go into the Kavanaugh thing to talk about just how ridiculous this conversation has become.
Despite What You May Have Heard, "Believe Women" Has Never Meant "Ignore Facts"
www.elle.com/.../
Here is what we need: Open arms and accountability.
Open your arms to potential victims.
Don't leave those rape kits lying around unprocessed.
Show that you CARE.
However. . . .
If you falsely accuse somebody with public slander and it is found out AFTER you have come forward and the results were negative, then charges need to be filed.
I personally just think it's common sense.
What makes the girl's word anymore trustworthy than a guy's?
False rape claims is a thing and I even remember a while ago a reporter said that a few boys from a frat raped a girl.
The news immediately picked it up without checking anything and later found out the woman that reported it was a feminist and that there was no proof.
1. Ben Shapiro really is a spitting image of Sheldon Cooper.
2. Ben is someone who supports a "ethnic interests for me and mine, but immoral for thee" approach.
3. Ben also believes that if you are "racist" you should be tracked down and fired from whatever job you have.
No. Skepticism should apply to everything we do, not just science or religion. Be skeptical of all claims. Go into an investigation with a neutral mind set. That's the only way to ensure any semblance of impartiality. Don't believe or disbelieve a woman. Don't believe or disbelieve the accused. Investigate with no assumptions.
I used to like shapiro. Until i realized that he only wants inmigration, and freedom of expression when it doesn't involve his beloved israel. Though on most things we agree he is still a zionist cunt. I don't have enough data to open youtube, but search " james allup ben shapiro hypocrisy " and watch the first video.
Ben Shapiro makes too much sense. He should run for Prez.
Very few women lie about being raped.
Ben Shapiro speaks well, but his speech ignores the importance of trusting in your intuition and your personal experience.
Well, he didn’t say anything about women lying about being raped. He’s saying, the default to believe every woman and handout justice by public opinion because of certain pressures due to being in the hurricane’s eye of the #metoo movement, undermines the foundation of innocent until proven guilty and due process. Just because Kavanaugh is a “white, privileged” man, doesn’t make it any right for him to not be afforded anything less than “innocent until proven” guilty, especially when there is no corroborating evidence whatsoever.
The standard of proof for picking a Supreme Court justice is way lower than the standard of proof in criminal court. Innocent until proven guilty does not apply.
It doesn’t matter, that’s arbitrary. The fact is, in the US, the main principle of justice is the vernacular “innocent until proven guilty.” There was no corroborating evidence whatsoever. If there is no corroborating evidence then you can’t say Kavanaugh is guilty of what he’s being accused of doing. Did he do it? Maybe, maybe not, but since there’s no evidence, he’s labeled as not guilty and that’s how it should be. I think the inclination to believe all “victims” of sexual assault or rape sometimes clouds people’s logic and saturates their emotions. We don’t follow a system of justice by public opinion.
Those women don't get punished as much as the damage done to the man
That's the problem
The standard for rejecting a judge is the appearance of impropriety. All that means is, if it's more likely than not that you did what you're being accused of, you shouldn't be confirmed. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt is NOT required.
You’re not understanding. Kavanaugh is one aspect of a larger problem that I’m talking about.
So am I. To make these women prove their accusers guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is ridiculous.
But what’s the alternative? Believing all accusations just because a woman appears to be a victim and take her word as gospel that a man/woman did so and so to her and that’s final? People misinterpret events all the time, which is compounded sometimes by drugs, exorbitant amount of time passed, and emotions, which can led to false accusations.
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Look Queen, I’m all for investigations to unearth the truth and if evidence comes up which proves the victim right, the full weight of justice should fall onto the perpetrator and necessary actions should be undertaken. I sympathize with women who have truly been victimized by this and want to do everything to make sure the truth comes out and fair proceedings occur.
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Very, very many women lie about being sexually assaulted or raped. If you check the media for even a second, you will see floods of stories of women making up horrendous, absolutely atrocious lies in order to attract attention and gain other privledges by attacking a celebrities livelihood. This is all encouraged by that absolutely retarded MeToo movement.
“Innocent until proven guilty” is what our country is BUILT upon. Are you seriously saying here that a man, who has upheld being a overall good guy throughout his entire public career, (speaking about Brett Kavanaugh here), should be denied the right to step further in his career simply because some absolute BITCH decided to make something up, without a SINGLE SHRED of evidence?
No, making women prove that the man they accused is guilty beyond all reasonable doubt is not “ridiculous”- it should be STANDARD. It’s that way with homocide, assault, and any other crime. Rape and sexual assault should not be seperated from law.
Intuition should not substitute for evidence and reason.
And our personal experiences can often have biases that cloud our judgement.
See this is a mindset we need to get rid of, the idea that women would never lie about being raped, assaulted or anything just to spite the person they are accusing, they can, they will and I'm not gonna lie If i was a woman and i ran into someone i didn't like i would brand him a rapist just to get rid of him... for no reason what so ever.
In fact it actually happened here
www.foxnews.com/.../five-high-school-mean-girls-targeted-boy-with-false-accusations-of-sexual-assault-lawsuit-claims
Women don't like about being raped my right nut.
LOL "intuition". Amazing evidence intuition. Suuuuure.
Well what he says sure does make sense and had to be cleared up.
when there is dna and concrete evidence i'll believe, and you also have to look at the person's background, how clean and innocent are they really? do they have a clean record, then that may make them believable.
Nope, if even if you want to listen and believe don't forget to verify! I saw something on tv with my aunt a couple of days ago where this talk show host said that a woman's testimony is enough, I felt sick to my stomach.
Would do Ben so hard, but he's married so I should just suck his dick then.
OK, I don't like this guy. But I guess, I agree with that point, that's true.
Hey, check out The Amazing Atheist on YT. I have feeling you'd like him. :-)
What he's saying is rational.
“Believe all women” is already a stupid idea to begin with.
Since when having a vagina stops you from lying? And since when yyou can send someone in jail because someone else said something with proofs?
I actually agree with him 🙂 I'm worried where this will lead... maybe our society is dying.
I mean I don't usually agree with Ben, but we definitely do need evidence before we actually accuse anyone. Otherwise, it's like a witch trial in a way.
Brian Banks and Emmett Till are more than enough reason to not subscribe to the "Believe all women" bullshit.
I'm not his biggest fan, but I can't disagree with him here.
Nah, never
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I like ben Shapiro. He is smart.
Can’t disagree with him in that but I disagree with they guy on a hell of a lot of other issues
Nope I agree with that
False rape accusations are rare. We should believe survivors of rape and sexual assault in the same way we believe survivors of physical assault etc.
Well, he didn’t say anything about women lying about being raped. He’s saying, the default to believe every woman and handout justice by public opinion because of certain pressures due to being in the hurricane’s eye of the #metoo movement, undermines the foundation of innocent until proven guilty and due process. Just because Kavanaugh is a “white, privileged” man, doesn’t make it any right for him to not be afforded anything less than “innocent until proven” guilty, especially when there is no corroborating evidence whatsoever.
Yes we should. But we should neither believe people claiming someone raped them nor peopls claiming someone assaulted them physically without evidence. False rale accusations may be rare but if we believe every woman who claims to be raped without investigating it at all, we can as well dismiss trials in general and make the defendant lose automatically in 100% of cases.
I agree with Ben Shapiro.
Me too.
Thank you, i knew i followed you for a good reason.
I agree with him.
I hate Ben Sharpio, but he's right.
Hate is a strong word
I know, and he's wrong on a lot of things.
Like what? Why would you hate him?
Ben Shapiro can bite my shiny metal ass.
I don't care for Ben shapiro he's just annoying
Nope
Shapiro is legit.
didn't watch
Watch it it’s like 5 minuets long
The dislikes lol.
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