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It can be radical and dumb, but there are also legitimate issues and more reasonable feminists. In the end, I don't really care about it all to be honest
Bullshit, western feminists don't really care about women, they care about how to find an excuse for them not having a job and being lazy fat retards.
They don't care a damn about how women are treated in Iran or saudia Arabia.
It could be good and it's neccessary but it needs to focus on countries where sexism really exists
I'm feminist. I don't ascribe to the waves bullshit.
I'm going with option D. Make em deepthroat dat dick cuz they ain't dat good.
Why don't we think about rights of freedom to individual human beings than groups of women or groups of men? I support Individual rights only.
NO FEMINISM
NO MGTOW
Period.
Please watch and listen to this guy
youtube. com/watch? v=IcUeAah1O3Y
I'm more sick of the posts ABOUT it that feed it life. Maybe if everyone stops talking about it, it would've been dead already
It's a bad joke. Anyone who associates with that hivemind is a fool.
An ideology that has outlived its purpose and has descended into insanity.
Feminism in unnecesary in western country. The only places that feminism is necesary is in countries of Africa and Asia.
Dictionary definition of feminism is great. I prefer a policy of equal in the rights department but people should stop trying to make boys and girls the same.
It is needed in other countries that have actual discrimination but not in usa or UK because all it is doing there is hurting its own reputation and worring about very minor issues
Feminism is an anti male hate movement followed by bitter women that feel wronged by men. Furthermore it isn't about equality at all but it is about getting special privileges for women.
There are a few things feminism can still fight for today but instead of worrying about rape attacks in third world countries, they're worried about a man spreading his legs on a metro seat
I'm for feminism in third-world countries and against modern first-world feminism.
Feminists are scum of the Earth who should be hung, drawn and quartered and then left for the birds to feed on their remains.
Modern feminism is just feminism, trying to escape it's evil fucked up past misdeeds, while repeating the same evil fucked up past misdeeds.
Cancer man hating cancer it gives women an excuse to complain about men and get away with it everything is empowering to them and they always play the victim
It's not that good nowadays, it seems so preachy, it was super cool back in the day tho
I'm not for or against it. I personally cannot see what feminism has done today but ruin relationships.
Actually I was just attacked by a feminist that said I'm an idiot for expressing what I look for in a woman.
It's just a front to push misandry and gynocentricism.
Modern day feminism is all about mansplaning to men why we are inferior to women, and pretending that's gender equality.
I'm glad those of us with a brain voted it's not necessary.
Equality of opportunity is what matters. That's pretty much there today. Nothing "big" needs to happen, but small adjustments here and there by individuals are always going to occur.
Feminists are for women's rights, not for equality or equity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism
Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes. This includes seeking to establish educational and professional opportunities for women that are equal to those for men.
@Staiby That's on paper, in practice that was not the case. Women got the right to vote, but did not get the mandatory draft that comes along with it. Feminists in the 70s fought for abortions and contraception methods, which has nothing to do with equality once again. Nowadays, we have equal rights, yet feminists still want to change stuff.
I'll admit though that some fights were legitimately for equality, like the equal pay act. By the way, the current wage gap is a misunderstood statistic.
What issues are you talking about? What can you not do that a men can do?
piss standing up lol
@wankiam they can do it if they want. Nobody is stopping them.
yeah i seen the videos too lol but its not so easy for em to do it up a tree without a she wee
modern feminism is about superiority over men and killing babies
I would love for feminists and mgtows/incel individuals to come together and just argue their hearts out against each other. It will be a great and entertaining show lol
It's like beating a dead horse.
We both still face problems but I doesn't really matter so let's shut up about it
It still mainly caters to white women. The #MeToo movement is a perfect example.
#MeToo was created by a black woman.
So why have white women dominated it?
It's also interesting how it seems to mostly be male feminists who are exposed by the MeToo-movement...
Where are either of you getting this info?
Mostly, #MeToo hasn't "outed" perpetrators. Most of it has just been people saying it happened to them, with only a modest percentage naming names.
There are more white women than black women.
Yes some lefty type people were outed, and a lot of righties too. So what?
@MlleCake no #metoo was created by a rapist and cheater who was complicit in the suicide of Anthony Bourdain.
@shephardjhon No. She was an early supporter, but she didn't invent the hashtag.
www.nytimes.com/.../...-movement-tarana-burke.html
Some of the modern standpoints are unreasonable compared to the older waves.
Feminism is necessary but some (attention craving) women hold an exaggerated discourse.
I don't like it and I think it's gone too far.
I don't care I see it as another hate group.
My opinion is that's ridiculous
I voted B.
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~ Mrs Manson
Feminism is necessary and I am a feminist.
Or you are just a sneaky beta male who thinks supporting this shit will help you get laid.
@sonnysunshine He even knows that all that alpha/beta stuff is pseudoscience.
@MlleCake and yet the word “male feminist” is literally an oxymoron for morons.
@sonnysunshine Well said
@sonnysunshine You clearly don't know jack.
@MlleCake I do know that gender relations are getting worse not better with increasing divorce rates, infidelity and increasing male suicide rates.
Feminism concerns only women’s problems (mostly imagined nowadays) and they don’t care about jack about male issues. The fucking word itself contains the Latin subroot “fem”. Its not about equality. It’s about superiority.
Fortunately not all women are as dumb as you. I’m hearing more of them speak up against it.
@sonnysunshine actually, feminists have been trying to relieve men of the burdens of strict gender norms for decades.
Yes, feminism is primarily concerned with women's issues, but that doesn't mean none of us care about the issues men face.
Let's talk about the increased suicide rate:
Women attempt more.
Men succeed more- largely due to higher rate of gun ownership. But there's also a stigma for men to admit to their depression and other mental health issues, which makes it hard for some to seek help. Feminists have been talking about not socializing boys to hide their emotions for decades.
The goal of feminism is not female superiority. You might know that if you actually took some time to research. Actually, you probably already do know it.
@MlleCake I went to a very liberal college. I remember all the propaganda on my dorm room walls. I remember the “take back the night” marches were sexist cunts chanted “hey hey mister get the fuck off my sister”. I remember there being a moral debate that “all men are rapists but most choose not to do so”. I remember taking a REQUIRED sociology class where it was 99% feminist propaganda. They treat their opinions like a science. And what I like the most is that my tuition money and tax dollars were supporting their absolutely insane one sided bullshit. agenda.
I also had two jobs when I was one of the only males. I experienced reverse sexism on both jobs. At the “staff” meeting women were making sexual remarks about other guys and hinted about me. At the other job I was put on the spot about my pro life beliefs. Something I never brought up but I had to because they assigned me to manage an advertising account for one an abortion clinic which I refused to work on.
Also women attempt suicide for attention. It’s a cry for help. Not saying it should be taken seriously but when a man does it. He does it. It’s not just “gun ownership” either. He will hang himself, walk in front of speeding car, jump off a cliff etc. Women usually seek less violent means (poison).
I WANT gender equality. But feminism is not how you accomplish it.
@sonnysunshine your exposure to feminism is still minimal.
And straight men do not experience sexism.
Not denying your personal experience of being treated badly. But you're mischaracterizing it.
@MlleCake “straight men don’t experience sexism”. Wow. Really WOW
I guess since I have a white dick I live in a stress free lala land and I never once had any problems.
You just said all right there. You would make an excellent public college professor.
@sonnysunshine never said that you never have any struggles.
You just don't experience sexism.
@MlleCake I didn’t experience “sexism” because you have the ultimate definition what is and what is not discrimination. Yeah I really enjoyed paying twice as much auto insurance when I was a teen than my little sister despite being a better driver than her. I really enjoyed being called a creep for doing absolutely nothing besides glancing at a woman for a extra second. But when some obese girl slapped my ass in a bar everybody laughed. I really enjoyed the fact my boss asked me to move heavy shit around the office without saying please or thank you (all my other coworkers were female). I really like being expected to pay for dates. Girls say it’s okay to split it. But it’s really not.
Above all I really enjoyed of being falsely accused of some bullshit in high school. It never got escalated but everybody took her word over mine. Other guys and girls wanted to fight me in the hallway.
But since I’m a man I don’t know the definition of “sexism” so what do I know?
@sonnysunshine Don't bother wasting your time. These people never learn.
@sonnysunshine you still think I am saying something I'm not.
@UI_Vegeta01 I think guys from my dads generation had the same attitude. They chalked this up to annoyance and just ignored them. But that didn’t work. Look at the insane bullshit going on nowadays.
@MlleCake Are you serious? Straight men DO experience sexism , I am a single dad , and have endured a lot of very hostile sexism from mothers that assume male = sex predator / pedo and / or shit parent. A lot of this is through " media " and your fellow feminists anti-male propaganda , my smart daughter saw through this a few years back , with NO prompting from myself , aged just 8 !! I am glad they are older now and can take themselves places themselves.
This woman you guys are arguing with doesn't know anything about sexism. She is a woman, she won't know what sexism guys face. She is brainwashed. She has nothing factual to say.
affinitymagazine.us/.../
@MlleCake A shitty article told you that sexism against men isn't possible and you believed that crap? Grow up.
@UI_Vegeta01 Um, no. It was something we began to discuss around 2008.
@MlleCake Um, yes. Or else you wouldn't bring that article up in the first place. The world has changed a lot since 2008. You are still stuck in 2008. Go with the flow. Sexism against men is rampant in today's world.
The question is, why are these people winning? Why are they getting their way?
Part of it is they go into majors that focus on mass communication, journalism, entertainment, theater and public education. These sectors attract liberals.
feminism is like MGTOW
Feminism is necessary and I am a feminist.
Women's rights is necessary.
Feminism is not.
Other
I think feminism is cancer. nuff said
It’s good it’s the same old feminism
Yes except that the air conditioning, an inanimate thing is sexist now
I don’t know why you are talking about air conditioning so yea
Because that was literally one of the biggest issues not too long ago in the feminist community.
Yea you’re way off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNH0bmYT7os
Damn fem haters
Feminists are like vegans.
Nah, vegans are at least usually somewhat healthy.
Omg😂😂
How do I upvote a reply. Savage. 😂
Feminism is hate group.
Feminism is cancer
I’m vehemently against both old and new feminism.
Its cool. i ain't bother by it
I don't have any opinions. I have facts tho.
@Tilin29 I hope @MlleCake did not delete your responses you made efforts on. She don't want open discussion because she don't want people to disagree with her.
Feminism is AIDS.
I m feminist
Baby killers.
I live under a rock
You Ms Patrick?
Cancerous
Not good.
It's pathetic
Don't like it
Its toxic