Not really, I think shallow women have "too many options" as you say, but real, genuine women are in the same boat as us.
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That's what dating will become, all women fighting for that top 15% of men. Eventually they will allow themselves to be groupies for these men. They'd rather share one of those men than be forced into something with an unattractive average guy.
I haven't met every single human male, so I can't speak for all of them but the quality of people in general, male & female has gone downhill. I'm not interested in the way relationships are conducted these days. I'm a quality woman and expect the same level of quality in a man.
I was speaking for myself, as in none of the options presented to me have been good options. How would I know if someone I haven't encountered is a good option? At this point, it would surprise me though.
Wow! You're an extremist! No, I just won't date. Females aren't much/any better either. I'm raising 2 sons that I hope won't continue this retarded trend of fuckboyishness male behavior. If people continue behaving this way, the human race will die out on it's own anyway
You like twisting words to fit your warped beliefs, don't you? I never said no male is 'a good', I said the one's I've encountered are no good. I also said that I'm raising my sons to be better than the typical man today.
Now I have wasted enough time on your nonsense. Bye bye 👋
@rubyrose83 - I would guess the options don't look good because women start with every option but as they get older they lose options. Men it works opposite because when we are young we can't find anyone, as we age we get more options.
Hahaha, untrue, at least for me. I have just as many options as I did when I was younger, thank you very much. It's not about quantity, it's about quality. Men just aren't what they used to be (neither are women)
@rubyrose83 when you say "Men just aren't what they used to be" that is exactly what I mean. There are plenty of men who are more like how they used to be back when you were 18. Guess what? Men who are in their 30's who are good catches... they are dating 20 year old's. Why? Because they can, because their options are pretty much anyone their age and younger is available to them. Women tend to like a man a little older so as you age, your options decrease because men die or get married etc. But even a 45 year old man might date a 25 year old girl if he is hot enough and with it enough to get one. If he isn't, then you probably wouldn't find him quite a catch.
No, I mean they don't make them like they used to. In this hook up age, no one dates properly, there's no more chivalry. Men expect something but with no effort. I don't like older guys because regardless of what you may say, I'm very youthful. The last guy I dated was 8 years younger. Thanks for the insults though 👍
@rubyrose83 - "No, I mean they don't make them like they used to. In this hook up age, no one dates properly, there's no more chivalry. Men expect something but with no effort." YESSSS EXACTLY MY POINT! There are men who put in effort, they are just not choosing to put it in with YOU, thats why your experience is that no men like that are around any more.
For example, I am 32, I am currently dating someone 22. My previous girl I was dating was 19. Now I am not saying you are a bad person but why in my right mind would I choose to date someone my age when I can get a girl that is 10 years younger than me?
The reason I can get girls young like that is because I am physically attractive and athletic, I am also financially stable and have no baggage (ie divorce, kids). So without knowing anything else about me, most women based on those factors would put me in the top tier of men to date. Except since I have access to and prefer women 18-22 to date, women in their 30s would be in my lowest tier of women to date.
Picture basically any man you ever met. He has a 19 year old standing before him and a 30 year old. Who is he going to pick? Obviously the 19 year old. no brainer. Everyone knows this. So what is left? well you have older men, ones who would find someone in their 30s a catch still (but it sounds like you don't like these men, ones who might actually date you), ones around your age that are not attractive enough to get younger women, and younger men. You also have access to men who are top level men to date who are around your age, but as you said they don't put in any effort. I personally am not into casual sex but if I wanted casual sex, I could easily get a girl my age without putting in any effort. The reason is a man in my position holds all the dating power in that scenario. For every 20 something year old girl I talk to, there are 5 30 something year old women trying to talk to me, so wtf would I put in any effort at all?
@bamesjond0069 Don't care. Question is about women having options. We don't because men are garbo these days and lazy and self centered and sex driven. Pretty useless in general.
Unfortunately I think it builds off each other. When I was younger I thought I was supposed to want "hos" and so I was that player for a long time. But over that time I was casual with girls I should have dated properly. But now thinking about it, I might have hurt those girls in a way that made them decide all men suck and to just be hos. But on the other hand, I started off with one girlfriend who did me wrong and thats what put me on the ho kick thinking all girls were hos in the first place. Ahhh its just a chicken and egg situation. Which comes first, men sucking or women sucking? All I can say is I think it will get worse before it gets better sadly.
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Do men have too many opinions in 2019? Women can have as many opinions as men.
Dunno what the point of the "in 2019" part is, but, yeah, generally speaking they do.
Not really, I think shallow women have "too many options" as you say, but real, genuine women are in the same boat as us.
That's what dating will become, all women fighting for that top 15% of men. Eventually they will allow themselves to be groupies for these men. They'd rather share one of those men than be forced into something with an unattractive average guy.
I can agree online dating, the abundance of choices, and increased superficiality has definitely made things worse.
Another poor, sad little boy pipes up. Guess what, women only own what you LET them own.
Yup i'm taking it back im not replying to girls they have to do it to me.
In their opinion they dont have enough. Personally I'd like to live a minimalist life style.
If she's living in a place where there's not that much guys and many of them aren't what she wants, she would be forced to lower her standards
Everybody does but it's really upto the person if they want be stick around of no
Doesn't matter, if none of them are good options
so what makes every single human male who exists today not a good option?
I haven't met every single human male, so I can't speak for all of them but the quality of people in general, male & female has gone downhill. I'm not interested in the way relationships are conducted these days. I'm a quality woman and expect the same level of quality in a man.
but you literally said no male on earth is a good option, correct?
I was speaking for myself, as in none of the options presented to me have been good options. How would I know if someone I haven't encountered is a good option? At this point, it would surprise me though.
would you advocate the slaughter of all human males if non of them are good option for dating?
Wow! You're an extremist! No, I just won't date. Females aren't much/any better either.
I'm raising 2 sons that I hope won't continue this retarded trend of fuckboyishness male behavior. If people continue behaving this way, the human race will die out on it's own anyway
so you belive you're sons will be shit men since you feel no male is a good.
You like twisting words to fit your warped beliefs, don't you?
I never said no male is 'a good', I said the one's I've encountered are no good. I also said that I'm raising my sons to be better than the typical man today.
Now I have wasted enough time on your nonsense. Bye bye 👋
@rubyrose83 - I would guess the options don't look good because women start with every option but as they get older they lose options. Men it works opposite because when we are young we can't find anyone, as we age we get more options.
Hahaha, untrue, at least for me. I have just as many options as I did when I was younger, thank you very much. It's not about quantity, it's about quality. Men just aren't what they used to be (neither are women)
@rubyrose83 when you say "Men just aren't what they used to be" that is exactly what I mean. There are plenty of men who are more like how they used to be back when you were 18. Guess what? Men who are in their 30's who are good catches... they are dating 20 year old's. Why? Because they can, because their options are pretty much anyone their age and younger is available to them. Women tend to like a man a little older so as you age, your options decrease because men die or get married etc. But even a 45 year old man might date a 25 year old girl if he is hot enough and with it enough to get one. If he isn't, then you probably wouldn't find him quite a catch.
No, I mean they don't make them like they used to. In this hook up age, no one dates properly, there's no more chivalry. Men expect something but with no effort.
I don't like older guys because regardless of what you may say, I'm very youthful. The last guy I dated was 8 years younger.
Thanks for the insults though 👍
@rubyrose83 - "No, I mean they don't make them like they used to. In this hook up age, no one dates properly, there's no more chivalry. Men expect something but with no effort."
YESSSS EXACTLY MY POINT! There are men who put in effort, they are just not choosing to put it in with YOU, thats why your experience is that no men like that are around any more.
For example, I am 32, I am currently dating someone 22. My previous girl I was dating was 19. Now I am not saying you are a bad person but why in my right mind would I choose to date someone my age when I can get a girl that is 10 years younger than me?
The reason I can get girls young like that is because I am physically attractive and athletic, I am also financially stable and have no baggage (ie divorce, kids). So without knowing anything else about me, most women based on those factors would put me in the top tier of men to date. Except since I have access to and prefer women 18-22 to date, women in their 30s would be in my lowest tier of women to date.
Picture basically any man you ever met. He has a 19 year old standing before him and a 30 year old. Who is he going to pick? Obviously the 19 year old. no brainer. Everyone knows this. So what is left? well you have older men, ones who would find someone in their 30s a catch still (but it sounds like you don't like these men, ones who might actually date you), ones around your age that are not attractive enough to get younger women, and younger men. You also have access to men who are top level men to date who are around your age, but as you said they don't put in any effort. I personally am not into casual sex but if I wanted casual sex, I could easily get a girl my age without putting in any effort. The reason is a man in my position holds all the dating power in that scenario. For every 20 something year old girl I talk to, there are 5 30 something year old women trying to talk to me, so wtf would I put in any effort at all?
yes but it's always we guys who give them all those options. we should blame ourselves first
men have the same options as women do ! Thanks
How does someone own the dating world?
Few dont.
But majority do.
No, a lot of single available men are garbage.
Same for women, most are undateable.
@bamesjond0069 Don't care. Question is about women having options. We don't because men are garbo these days and lazy and self centered and sex driven. Pretty useless in general.
I agree with that. Most men are trash for sure.
@bamesjond0069 But in fairness, you are right because most people in general are garbo these days.
Unfortunately I think it builds off each other. When I was younger I thought I was supposed to want "hos" and so I was that player for a long time. But over that time I was casual with girls I should have dated properly. But now thinking about it, I might have hurt those girls in a way that made them decide all men suck and to just be hos. But on the other hand, I started off with one girlfriend who did me wrong and thats what put me on the ho kick thinking all girls were hos in the first place. Ahhh its just a chicken and egg situation. Which comes first, men sucking or women sucking? All I can say is I think it will get worse before it gets better sadly.
Yeah, And most ignore men like me, Why beats me?
Why are you triggered by women?
And? You don't want them to have many options?
Womem are the choosers