And don't get technical with the generation thing.
Oh and I was born 2 years shy of the 90s and Spice Girls are life!
I was actually talking about this today but I'm talking about the younger millennials too as I feel it also affects us. I feel like there are two factions, you have your revolutionists like in Les Miserables, these are the ones who are doing amazing things by fighting for causes that matter to them for the good of society in general like climate change, class division and such. Then you have the ones who are trying to govern themselves like in Lord of the Flies these are the ones who have been unable to have the freedom to express or think for themselves and now they're living in a world that's complete chaos and feel powerless to do anything about it and the mentality there is if you can't beat it join it. The issue as a whole is that the world is fractured and changing so all youth is under an incredible amount of pressure and stress because we're living in a completely new age with no guidance that we can take from the past except that what we're living through now is what usually happens when an old system is broken down to make way for a new one. All I can say about 12-18 year olds in particular is that they're the first generation not to grow up believing in the lie that if you work hard at school you're guaranteed a good job because they've seen that's not always the case and maybe that translates into the way some behave. I don't know what the solution is or if I've conveyed my thoughts in the right way but that's my theory. Either way I don't exactly think they're all a lost cause, there's hope for the underrated youth.
Finally, someone not just throwing the word boomer at me lol. But yes, I agree. The world has changed and the times we're in now are very tricky to maneuver through. And that's at my age, so I can imagine how it is for those younger. They're being taught to question everything which is a gift and a curse because it makes them not open to help and makes them very hard to teach. It also makes them suspicious of authority. As an educator, it's harddd lol
They could be hard to teach because it's a reaction to an outdated system. Even 10 years ago before the majority of the technological advances we have now I was let down by the way things were taught, the restrictions placed on what I could or couldn't learn and when. These kids now have the freedom to learn anything they want because they have so much access to every single bit of information they could ever need right in their pockets and unlike school structure they can dip in and out of any subject they're interested in whenever they want without restriction. We've all been through the education system and the majority of people don't come out any better off, proving it's not an effective method for today's world. So of course they're going to be angry and suspicious of authority because look at what that authority has led to for the majority of people, a dead end job if you're lucky enough not to be unemployed. I know none of this is an educator's fault because you single handedly can't change the current system but you're going to bear the brunt of the frustration from the students you teach.
You're not wrong. Like I said, get where they're coming from. Lol I want them to understand that I get it. It's all just a process. Some of them I can get through to. And some, like a lot on this thread are just snarky and think they know all there is to know right off hand and don't know how to talk to people. Those are the ones that frustrate me.
Only thing I could suggest to get through to those ones is to find out what they're interested in and adapt what you're teaching to the individual interests. Maybe they'll see you're trying and they'll meet you halfway.
As a fellow teenager, I 100 percent agree. To be honest, this generation of 11 - 18-year-olds are just assholes. One, you learn to grow up quick. There are so, soo many kids in grades 7 and eight who have already had sex, started smoking pot, cigarettes, you know. Then they just don't wanna stop and skip school. It's honestly so dumb. They are ruining there future because with the way everything's going, the worlds just gonna get more expensive and climate change is going to be even worse. So these kids shouldn't ruin their future because they want to look and be cool for smoking, and partying, and having sex.
A gem. Someone that realizes that some of what I'm saying is true.
Considering statistically the world is pretty constantly improving (healthcare, education, contraception, medical research etcetera) and every generation tends to have a higher standard of living than the generation before, definitely not.
Just because you may or may not like someone’s choices in music, fashion or whatever (leaving out the “iM noT LiKE tHe oThER gIrlS” crowd) does not actually imply that the choices are worse. Many boomers like rebellious punk and rock in the 60s and 70s, barely in a time where people in the US would implode when a black person was on the bus with them.
Also, this shit is infused with a significant degree of observation bias. Observing kids that are much younger than you is not a justified basis for saying whether a generation is screwed. They are kids, they’ll grow up. If an 8 year old happens to be rude now, it does not mean that he’ll be an F tier person in 20 years.
In every generation, kids deviate from their parents. It is a very common thing, yet every generation does not seem to end the world like prophesied by the generation before them.
This shit is so much more that some damn music and clothes. And yes, it is an observation and is based off experience. As are most things in life.
Well, any examples?
It's just the lack of caring about anything that I see in a lot them. They don't seem to care about anything and they feel as though they need anyone because they know it all. They aren't receptive to any kinds of help and motivation. It's weird.
It's almost as if they were raised by a generation of people who think the world and this generation are doomed and nothing matters.
If I could pinpoint one problem... We all enjoy a lot of freedoms today, which is a huge blessing compared to the struggles, discriminations and bondage of previous generations.
But unfortunately, many of those pillars of society we took down to get here, we never replaced them. And so without these pillars, of course newer generations won't be as upright and on their feet; because the roof caved in, exposing them to the elements that they may be divided, isolated, atomized, broken, even dead.
This is true
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Children raising children... and this is what happens.
I think they don't want to be saved because they genuinely believe they don't need saving.
I learned from experience that it's more productive to provide information to those that seek it, than to impose wisdom on those that can't comprehend it. The same way a student seeks a teacher.
I learned this the hard way, and not only is my life happier because of it. I have more energy to offer to those that want to listen.
Something Jay Z said in a song: "nothing wrong with your aim, just got to change the target".
That's what I've been saying. And my point. They don't think they need to be saved. They don't want help because they don't feel they need it. They know everything. And you know nothing. I work at a school. I see it every single day.
Lol. It's def trying because they will test your patience every chance they get
Saved from what? Who the hell says they need saving and who are you to make that kind of judgment or decision on what the generation you're talkin about even needs? Maybe what they need saving from is the fervent elderly adults in our society that are still trying to cram their own personal views on religion down everybody's throats no matter how young or how little interest is shown in it. If that's not what you're talkin about here then I apologize but I don't know what else you would be referring to...
I haven't mentioned religion once...
No, not completely (: they ARE developing / discovering things a lot sooner then I did when I was their age but it's do to how easily they can access things at a touch of a button & I believe also due to lack of parenting (in the sence that they're not checking / monitoring them to see how they're doing) I've worked with middle school & elementary school kids for almost 3 years now & I can tell you from experience just saying "hi" to them & letting them know you're there for them goes a LONG way :')) never let them get away with things ex: bad language, vids, disrespect
I work with kids and have worked with them for years.
Did I say all of them? I know it's not all of them. I agree with the parenting thing.
No, i don't think that at all. But they are in an extremely manipulative and toxic environment with constant brainwashing. Most people from any generation do not break out of it unless exposed to the truth or when the brainwashing failed on them (I am a combination of both). The effects will go away over time when they get exposed in the real world. Last time i checked the impact was slightly less than 50% of society so the people who are aware need to step up their game.
I know what you mean. I'm 32.
However... I believe older generations think like that about new generations. Not saying everyone thinks that but a lot do. It's like a repetitive pattern. The older generations seem to know best and are at the ready to show the "young'uns" about life... but most 18 year olds don't want to hear it. Let them be. They need life experience because life is short. Don't worry. Once they hit their 30s, they'll know the older generation (or parents) were right... well a lot will learn that. You might get a few stubborn ones. Let live. 'Tis the repetitive cycle :)
They are being indoctrinated. Feminist are teaching girls that men hate them, men are dangerous to girls, men are rapist lies that are 100 percent the reverse of the actual truth. Both girls and boys are being indoctrinated with homosexuality starting at age 4 they have been deliberately brainwashed and indoctrinated. I love children and I wouldn't give up on them. What they were taught isn't their fault, it's the fault of those teaching them those things and those parents that go along with it. They need the truth if they are to be saved.
Sir. Let me ask you, as another man, do you feel the women are unjustified in feeling unsafe when people like you would have them believe that it's wrong to want gender equality or marriage equality? If people my age had been taught what children are being taught now, the world would be a beautiful place. I can only hope that those poor children are lucky enough to be taught by people who will tell them that men and women are equal and that it's okay to love whoever makes you happy. Rather than be taught hate and discrimination by persons of your disposition.
@ScorpioDiAngelo the only thing the dude went nuts on was the homo stuff. The rest was actually accurate I've had teachers actually stop mid class to preach that white men are bad and dangerous and had a manditory class that was literally that every day for a simester thanks to the Canadian education system. Im glad you dont know what its like.
@ScorpioDiAngelo And the children are being taught wrong. Men and women aren't equal and they were not intended to be, both have a special purpose and are suppose to compliment each other, not compete with each other. And no, women are not justified in feeling unsafe to false accusations against men IE the false rape culture etc. That is feminist propaganda I know it and you should know it. I don't know one single man that has raped anyone and those I know they don't know any men that have raped anyone either and most likely probably neither you. Why? Because it's baseless accusations made against men by feminist and family courts that steal the children away from men.
Why is it against nature?
@ScorpioDiAngelo It depends on what you are addressing. Homosexuality is against God and nature. Indoctrinating girls to believe they are equals to guys, that also goes against God and nature. Girls and guys both have unique roles to fill and if either fail their role society and mankind can not survive. Girls were never suppose to compete with guys and they fake competition has completely obstructed and maybe even destroyed mankind at this point. That's why feminism is a lie, a huge Marxist mistake.
I wrote something a while back on these lines. Those kids have no idea what life is really about. To think they're going to be running the world soon is scarier than thinking of a zombie apocalypse. Or just the same.
Seriously. I look around my school everyday and I just shake my head.
Maybe I know different kinds of kids but I reckon they are pretty awesome. The ones I know including my own are empathetic, smart, curious and hard working. I do think the schooling system needs to adjust ASAP to ensure they are teaching more relevant topics and skills - but all in all the kids seem pretty great 👍
There are some diamonds in the roughs for sure. But in my experience being out in the trenches with them every day, a lot of them just seem to be not willing to want to learn and receive any knowledge or help of any kind.
Wonder how different it is around the world? I’m in New Zealand.
I often wonder that too. I do believe that that does factor into it
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
-Socrates
People have been crapping on the next generation for most, if not all, of recorded history. You're basically just continuing a long-standing tradition in doing so lol
I'm not crapping on anyone
I mean, I’m good. I’m 18. In college. Dual declared majors and a minor. Came from poverty and the worst childhood and still doing just fine. Also you are right, I would say we don’t want to be saved. I think we are all just exploring who we wanna be, what we want our future to look like in regards to society... people just gotta roll with the punches.
Good on you girl! At the end of the day, I just want y'all to be great because I know it's in all of y'all.
This generation is quite a case study, all negative in a human condition way, the online distance and remote viewing is a great works for a psychopath humans are far more sensitive to a persons odor, animation mannerisms etc, take that out of the aquation and I see arrogant self inflated quasi narcissistic cold power tripping etc, I hope I'm wrong
How are they lost? If anything, it’s their parents’ generation that’s lost, because they raised them to be this way.
I also assume you speak of technology? You need to understand that relying on technology in this generation isn’t a bad thing, it’s how to advance now. Everything is based around it.
Did I say anything about technology?
I refer to those born after 1990 as the ‘Shit-Head Generation’; they have crap taste in bland food, music, and movies, if a scene in a movie lasts for more than a trillionth of a second they feel suicidal, there idea of great movies are those oversaturated with C. G. I, flashing images, never-ending series of jump-cuts from start to finish. Evidence of my statement exists on Rotten Tomatoes audiences reviews. However not everyone of that generation is a shit-head, there are a few exceptions.
Zoomers (Gen Z) are society's only hope for the future. Millenials (the worst generation still alive) have already failed. The generation younger than the Zoomers, the one you're referring to (which hasn't been named yet), isn't showing much promise. They're the ones who are leading the next wave of nicotine addiction. I wouldn't say they're a lost cause though. They're certainly better than Millenials, at the very least.
I think they (or we) are doing ok considering what pressure young people nowdays have. Sure I know many kids where I really wonder if they have a brain, but at the same time I see many smart and engaged young people that hava a goal in life.
So I don't know who you're talking about, probably US. American kids
It’s a strange generation right now. It’s like a big ass mix of what da fuq
Pretty much
They are and it's the fault of the generation that has raised them.
Yeah parenting sucks these days.
The last few have been lost and get worse with each new one!!
Agreed
Yes, but it was my generation that helped them get lost
My generation is way better off than yours that are adult children.
And have accomplished better things and are already attempting to solve problems of society and the world although misguided occasionally by your generation. My generation are child adults and yours are adult children that want socialism because they dont want to work. I know its generalized but that is the hole point of the concept of generations.
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