Do you feel that this generation is lost?

[CHARismatic110]

I feel like these children 12-18 are just a lost cause. There's no saving them because they don't want to be saved.

And don't get technical with the generation thing.

Yes

No

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+1 y

I didn't think so many people would be this confused. And offended. I wasn't trying to offend y'all. I actually care! For those that ask what I mean by lost, I just basically mean that a lot of kids today feel like they know everything and aren't receptive to help or being taught. They don't seem to care about anything, and they feel as though they don't need anyone because they know it all. As an educator, it's frustrating.

Oh and I was born 2 years shy of the 90s and Spice Girls are life!

[DailyIntrovert]

I was actually talking about this today but I'm talking about the younger millennials too as I feel it also affects us. I feel like there are two factions, you have your revolutionists like in Les Miserables, these are the ones who are doing amazing things by fighting for causes that matter to them for the good of society in general like climate change, class division and such. Then you have the ones who are trying to govern themselves like in Lord of the Flies these are the ones who have been unable to have the freedom to express or think for themselves and now they're living in a world that's complete chaos and feel powerless to do anything about it and the mentality there is if you can't beat it join it. The issue as a whole is that the world is fractured and changing so all youth is under an incredible amount of pressure and stress because we're living in a completely new age with no guidance that we can take from the past except that what we're living through now is what usually happens when an old system is broken down to make way for a new one. All I can say about 12-18 year olds in particular is that they're the first generation not to grow up believing in the lie that if you work hard at school you're guaranteed a good job because they've seen that's not always the case and maybe that translates into the way some behave. I don't know what the solution is or if I've conveyed my thoughts in the right way but that's my theory. Either way I don't exactly think they're all a lost cause, there's hope for the underrated youth.

[CHARismatic110]

Finally, someone not just throwing the word boomer at me lol. But yes, I agree. The world has changed and the times we're in now are very tricky to maneuver through. And that's at my age, so I can imagine how it is for those younger. They're being taught to question everything which is a gift and a curse because it makes them not open to help and makes them very hard to teach. It also makes them suspicious of authority. As an educator, it's harddd lol

[DailyIntrovert]

They could be hard to teach because it's a reaction to an outdated system. Even 10 years ago before the majority of the technological advances we have now I was let down by the way things were taught, the restrictions placed on what I could or couldn't learn and when. These kids now have the freedom to learn anything they want because they have so much access to every single bit of information they could ever need right in their pockets and unlike school structure they can dip in and out of any subject they're interested in whenever they want without restriction. We've all been through the education system and the majority of people don't come out any better off, proving it's not an effective method for today's world. So of course they're going to be angry and suspicious of authority because look at what that authority has led to for the majority of people, a dead end job if you're lucky enough not to be unemployed. I know none of this is an educator's fault because you single handedly can't change the current system but you're going to bear the brunt of the frustration from the students you teach.

[CHARismatic110]

You're not wrong. Like I said, get where they're coming from. Lol I want them to understand that I get it. It's all just a process. Some of them I can get through to. And some, like a lot on this thread are just snarky and think they know all there is to know right off hand and don't know how to talk to people. Those are the ones that frustrate me.

[DailyIntrovert]

Only thing I could suggest to get through to those ones is to find out what they're interested in and adapt what you're teaching to the individual interests. Maybe they'll see you're trying and they'll meet you halfway.

[DepressionXglitter]

As a fellow teenager, I 100 percent agree. To be honest, this generation of 11 - 18-year-olds are just assholes. One, you learn to grow up quick. There are so, soo many kids in grades 7 and eight who have already had sex, started smoking pot, cigarettes, you know. Then they just don't wanna stop and skip school. It's honestly so dumb. They are ruining there future because with the way everything's going, the worlds just gonna get more expensive and climate change is going to be even worse. So these kids shouldn't ruin their future because they want to look and be cool for smoking, and partying, and having sex.

[CHARismatic110]

A gem. Someone that realizes that some of what I'm saying is true.

[tartaarsaus]

Considering statistically the world is pretty constantly improving (healthcare, education, contraception, medical research etcetera) and every generation tends to have a higher standard of living than the generation before, definitely not.

Just because you may or may not like someone’s choices in music, fashion or whatever (leaving out the “iM noT LiKE tHe oThER gIrlS” crowd) does not actually imply that the choices are worse. Many boomers like rebellious punk and rock in the 60s and 70s, barely in a time where people in the US would implode when a black person was on the bus with them.

Also, this shit is infused with a significant degree of observation bias. Observing kids that are much younger than you is not a justified basis for saying whether a generation is screwed. They are kids, they’ll grow up. If an 8 year old happens to be rude now, it does not mean that he’ll be an F tier person in 20 years.

In every generation, kids deviate from their parents. It is a very common thing, yet every generation does not seem to end the world like prophesied by the generation before them.

[CHARismatic110]

This shit is so much more that some damn music and clothes. And yes, it is an observation and is based off experience. As are most things in life.

[tartaarsaus]

Well, any examples?

[CHARismatic110]

It's just the lack of caring about anything that I see in a lot them. They don't seem to care about anything and they feel as though they need anyone because they know it all. They aren't receptive to any kinds of help and motivation. It's weird.

[ScorpioDiAngelo]

It's almost as if they were raised by a generation of people who think the world and this generation are doomed and nothing matters.

[Lightning8]

If I could pinpoint one problem... We all enjoy a lot of freedoms today, which is a huge blessing compared to the struggles, discriminations and bondage of previous generations.

But unfortunately, many of those pillars of society we took down to get here, we never replaced them. And so without these pillars, of course newer generations won't be as upright and on their feet; because the roof caved in, exposing them to the elements that they may be divided, isolated, atomized, broken, even dead.

[CHARismatic110]

This is true

[AmandaYVR]

That was gorgeous.

[Lightning8]

@AmandaYVR Thank you 😊

[Lightning8]

@CHARismatic110 Thanks

[Durrelle]

Children raising children... and this is what happens.

I think they don't want to be saved because they genuinely believe they don't need saving.

I learned from experience that it's more productive to provide information to those that seek it, than to impose wisdom on those that can't comprehend it. The same way a student seeks a teacher.

I learned this the hard way, and not only is my life happier because of it. I have more energy to offer to those that want to listen.

Something Jay Z said in a song: "nothing wrong with your aim, just got to change the target".

[CHARismatic110]

That's what I've been saying. And my point. They don't think they need to be saved. They don't want help because they don't feel they need it. They know everything. And you know nothing. I work at a school. I see it every single day.

[Durrelle]

It's a difficult time to teach kids of that age group, I respect you for doing it.

I don't have the patience for the arrogance on display these days. But plenty for those asking the questions :)

[CHARismatic110]

Lol. It's def trying because they will test your patience every chance they get

[DockEllisDee]

Saved from what? Who the hell says they need saving and who are you to make that kind of judgment or decision on what the generation you're talkin about even needs? Maybe what they need saving from is the fervent elderly adults in our society that are still trying to cram their own personal views on religion down everybody's throats no matter how young or how little interest is shown in it. If that's not what you're talkin about here then I apologize but I don't know what else you would be referring to...

[CHARismatic110]

I haven't mentioned religion once...

[Daisy007]

No, not completely (: they ARE developing / discovering things a lot sooner then I did when I was their age but it's do to how easily they can access things at a touch of a button & I believe also due to lack of parenting (in the sence that they're not checking / monitoring them to see how they're doing) I've worked with middle school & elementary school kids for almost 3 years now & I can tell you from experience just saying "hi" to them & letting them know you're there for them goes a LONG way :')) never let them get away with things ex: bad language, vids, disrespect

[CHARismatic110]

I work with kids and have worked with them for years.

[Daisy007]

I think it's mainly due to the parents being so young & not even getting to fully "live & learn" :/ BUT i haven't had any big issues w/ my students so far so it's not really fair to "generalize" all of them

[CHARismatic110]

Did I say all of them? I know it's not all of them. I agree with the parenting thing.

[sawno]

No, i don't think that at all. But they are in an extremely manipulative and toxic environment with constant brainwashing. Most people from any generation do not break out of it unless exposed to the truth or when the brainwashing failed on them (I am a combination of both). The effects will go away over time when they get exposed in the real world. Last time i checked the impact was slightly less than 50% of society so the people who are aware need to step up their game.

[vickiezalez]

I know what you mean. I'm 32.

However... I believe older generations think like that about new generations. Not saying everyone thinks that but a lot do. It's like a repetitive pattern. The older generations seem to know best and are at the ready to show the "young'uns" about life... but most 18 year olds don't want to hear it. Let them be. They need life experience because life is short. Don't worry. Once they hit their 30s, they'll know the older generation (or parents) were right... well a lot will learn that. You might get a few stubborn ones. Let live. 'Tis the repetitive cycle :)

[ThisAndThat]

They are being indoctrinated. Feminist are teaching girls that men hate them, men are dangerous to girls, men are rapist lies that are 100 percent the reverse of the actual truth. Both girls and boys are being indoctrinated with homosexuality starting at age 4 they have been deliberately brainwashed and indoctrinated. I love children and I wouldn't give up on them. What they were taught isn't their fault, it's the fault of those teaching them those things and those parents that go along with it. They need the truth if they are to be saved.

[ScorpioDiAngelo]

Sir. Let me ask you, as another man, do you feel the women are unjustified in feeling unsafe when people like you would have them believe that it's wrong to want gender equality or marriage equality? If people my age had been taught what children are being taught now, the world would be a beautiful place. I can only hope that those poor children are lucky enough to be taught by people who will tell them that men and women are equal and that it's okay to love whoever makes you happy. Rather than be taught hate and discrimination by persons of your disposition.

[Codywow]

@ScorpioDiAngelo the only thing the dude went nuts on was the homo stuff. The rest was actually accurate I've had teachers actually stop mid class to preach that white men are bad and dangerous and had a manditory class that was literally that every day for a simester thanks to the Canadian education system. Im glad you dont know what its like.

[ThisAndThat]

@ScorpioDiAngelo And the children are being taught wrong. Men and women aren't equal and they were not intended to be, both have a special purpose and are suppose to compliment each other, not compete with each other. And no, women are not justified in feeling unsafe to false accusations against men IE the false rape culture etc. That is feminist propaganda I know it and you should know it. I don't know one single man that has raped anyone and those I know they don't know any men that have raped anyone either and most likely probably neither you. Why? Because it's baseless accusations made against men by feminist and family courts that steal the children away from men.

[ThisAndThat]

@Codywow There's a reason homosexuality was illegal for so many years. That's because homosexuality servers absolutely no purpose. It is against God and it's against nature.

[ScorpioDiAngelo]

Why is it against nature?

[ThisAndThat]

@ScorpioDiAngelo It depends on what you are addressing. Homosexuality is against God and nature. Indoctrinating girls to believe they are equals to guys, that also goes against God and nature. Girls and guys both have unique roles to fill and if either fail their role society and mankind can not survive. Girls were never suppose to compete with guys and they fake competition has completely obstructed and maybe even destroyed mankind at this point. That's why feminism is a lie, a huge Marxist mistake.

[MotherEarth2020]

I wrote something a while back on these lines. Those kids have no idea what life is really about. To think they're going to be running the world soon is scarier than thinking of a zombie apocalypse. Or just the same.

[CHARismatic110]

Seriously. I look around my school everyday and I just shake my head.

[BetteDavis]

Maybe I know different kinds of kids but I reckon they are pretty awesome. The ones I know including my own are empathetic, smart, curious and hard working. I do think the schooling system needs to adjust ASAP to ensure they are teaching more relevant topics and skills - but all in all the kids seem pretty great 👍

[CHARismatic110]

There are some diamonds in the roughs for sure. But in my experience being out in the trenches with them every day, a lot of them just seem to be not willing to want to learn and receive any knowledge or help of any kind.

[BetteDavis]

Wonder how different it is around the world? I’m in New Zealand.

[CHARismatic110]

I often wonder that too. I do believe that that does factor into it

[cgerm25]

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."
-Socrates

People have been crapping on the next generation for most, if not all, of recorded history. You're basically just continuing a long-standing tradition in doing so lol

[CHARismatic110]

I'm not crapping on anyone

[cgerm25]

You're arbitrarily declaring them lost as a generation based on teenagers acting like teenagers. Sure you are.

[anube]

The error in observation is to assume we are crapping on them not true in private we are very impressed with thier easy go lucky iq

[Bribree18]

I mean, I’m good. I’m 18. In college. Dual declared majors and a minor. Came from poverty and the worst childhood and still doing just fine. Also you are right, I would say we don’t want to be saved. I think we are all just exploring who we wanna be, what we want our future to look like in regards to society... people just gotta roll with the punches.

[CHARismatic110]

Good on you girl! At the end of the day, I just want y'all to be great because I know it's in all of y'all.

[anube]

This generation is quite a case study, all negative in a human condition way, the online distance and remote viewing is a great works for a psychopath humans are far more sensitive to a persons odor, animation mannerisms etc, take that out of the aquation and I see arrogant self inflated quasi narcissistic cold power tripping etc, I hope I'm wrong

[bente2]

How are they lost? If anything, it’s their parents’ generation that’s lost, because they raised them to be this way.

I also assume you speak of technology? You need to understand that relying on technology in this generation isn’t a bad thing, it’s how to advance now. Everything is based around it.

[CHARismatic110]

Did I say anything about technology?

[bente2]

Then why else would they be lost?

[Lucky1974]

I refer to those born after 1990 as the ‘Shit-Head Generation’; they have crap taste in bland food, music, and movies, if a scene in a movie lasts for more than a trillionth of a second they feel suicidal, there idea of great movies are those oversaturated with C. G. I, flashing images, never-ending series of jump-cuts from start to finish. Evidence of my statement exists on Rotten Tomatoes audiences reviews. However not everyone of that generation is a shit-head, there are a few exceptions.

[Dongtai]

These are terrible reasons to call someone a shit head. Every generation deviated from its predecessor to some degree. It doesn’t make them any better or worse. Just different.

[ShortCircuit]

Zoomers (Gen Z) are society's only hope for the future. Millenials (the worst generation still alive) have already failed. The generation younger than the Zoomers, the one you're referring to (which hasn't been named yet), isn't showing much promise. They're the ones who are leading the next wave of nicotine addiction. I wouldn't say they're a lost cause though. They're certainly better than Millenials, at the very least.

[anube]

The melibels are the inhieriter of a lot of wealth so that generation is a unich study and very smart just a bit self absorbed we'll see as they mature

[OBanana]

I think they (or we) are doing ok considering what pressure young people nowdays have. Sure I know many kids where I really wonder if they have a brain, but at the same time I see many smart and engaged young people that hava a goal in life.
So I don't know who you're talking about, probably US. American kids

[MindYourEyes]

It’s a strange generation right now. It’s like a big ass mix of what da fuq

[CHARismatic110]

Pretty much

[XavierSteele]

They are and it's the fault of the generation that has raised them.

[CHARismatic110]

Yeah parenting sucks these days.

[FunkyMonkee]

The last few have been lost and get worse with each new one!!

[CHARismatic110]

Agreed

[TahoeHiker]

Yes, but it was my generation that helped them get lost

[Pink2000]

Yes... this generation is shitty and too sensitive.

[CHARismatic110]

The disrespect with some of them is just...

[ScorpioDiAngelo]

Honestly? I think the main problem with kids nowadays is the world is finally opening up and accepting that we are all equal and deserve the same rights. They are being taught love and acceptance by society while their parents and grandparents try to fill their minds with hate.

[WalkingBassist]

Nonsense. There are boys age 8 or 9 who run with their arms at their side like penguins. Soft bodies, soft minds, no discipline, no respect. I'm 43, and served 3 tours in Afghanistan. What can you really say at 20 years old?

[ScorpioDiAngelo]

Thank you for your service. That being said, why does that matter? Because they aren't manly enough? Because everyone doesn't fit your idea of what a boy should be? Your generation calls us the entitled ones; yet all we want is the freedom to be ourselves without having to live in fear. Meanwhile you and people like want to force everybody to live by your standards, you expectations, what you decide should be the norm. Tell me, who's more entitled there? As for what I can say at 20 years old? Well I've never been in a battlefield. But I survived my childhood with an alcoholic, drug dealing, murderous, abusive child molester for a father. I've nearly been killed twice, attempted suicide once, raised two children because my mother had to work to keep the bills paid. And even after all of that I still pulled my shit together, figured out my life, found a job and a place to call home that I love. Now I've paid off my truck, I'm getting my first home in march, and I'm doing it all without help, not to mention that I'm doing it in the economy that your generation ruined. So no. I've never shot a gun at foreigners; never been overseas. But if that's all you have that you're proud of then move along pal.

[ScorpioDiAngelo]

And another thing. No discipline? No respect? There's that entitlement again. What makes you think respect is automatically deserved? In this world. In the world that belongs to my generation now. You earn respect. If that's an issue. I suggest you find a nice retirement community and live out your days with like minded individuals.

[Codywow]

My generation is way better off than yours that are adult children.
And have accomplished better things and are already attempting to solve problems of society and the world although misguided occasionally by your generation. My generation are child adults and yours are adult children that want socialism because they dont want to work. I know its generalized but that is the hole point of the concept of generations.

[VIVANT]

Perhaps you don’t realize Our generation (people born around 2000) is more favorable toward socialism, than anything other time.

[Codywow]

@VIVANT simply not true, gen z views socialism with less regard than millennials by 9 percentage points. Its still the second largest but its still beaten by millennials never the less.

[Codywow]

Its the first generation to be more conservative than the one before it.

[VIVANT]

Ah fair point - I keep forgetting where Z comes on..

but it’s still high 🤷‍♀️😁

[VIVANT]

Relative to other hens anyhow

[Codywow]

@VIVANT yup

[VIVANT]

😊😊

[CHARismatic110]

Great story

[AlphaMaleTruth]

Of course all you have to do is use your common sense. Women have destroyed everything from family, the children, the pay wage, prosperity, debt, morality, and all of American society. This is what has happened over and over again whenever women are given satanic unnatural unbiological whore "liberation." We are at the end of our civilization. Satan is fullfilling his covenant with them Revelation 17.

[angelospetlis]

Cause Hitler, Stalin, Kim dynasty and Zedong were all women

[LordSnuggles]

In sure they were saying that about our generation too. And it'll be said about the next and the next. This sort of thinking isn't helpful.

[CHARismatic110]

This sort of thinking comes from seeing it day in and day out. Trust me, I'm doing my best to steer as many of them in the right direction as I can. But they have to want to go and keep at it.

[LordSnuggles]

Okay boomer

[October808]

Neither of you are boomers.

[LordSnuggles]

Thank you that was the joke.

[Browneye57]

They're children... they just THINK they know. You don't remember YOUR teen years?

[CHARismatic110]

I do remember them. And I remember not being like this. There's thinking you know things and then there's being crazy disrespectful. I still accepted help when I was a teenager.

[Browneye57]

They have shit-parents. Their parents are MY generation's children. And we did a SHIT job. LOL

[CHARismatic110]

Lmao I won't argue with you. There could definitely be some better parenting!

[Somethingwittty]

You are the first person from your generation I've heard accept responsibility for my generations parents

[Somethingwittty]

Thank you for saying what you said.

[Browneye57]

@Somethingwittty - You got it son. YOU are the generation of 'participation trophies' and awards, safe spaces, unrealistic expectations - you were told your whole life how much you DESERVE to be happy and successful, and if you whined or fussed you got something. No, a whole generation of pussies. Most raised without a dad, so neither gender really understands what men are or what they're for. All the while the feminist movement took over and convinced you men are toxic, they're all rapists, you live in rape culture, and that families don't need dads. Even hollyweird got into the shtick. No, western culture is failing. They're letting the inmates run the asylum. :)

[Somethingwittty]

Deserving and earning are two different things. Personally I never got spoiled growing up. I worked for what i got as a kid. It's called earning what you want. Things dont get handed out for free.

[Somethingwittty]

Also most of the people my age that are completely screwed up are understanding that we now live in the society we will have to change for the better. Outrage culture is a bad thing. Its toxic and a horrible deal all the way around.
Lastly many people like me were told that going to college was the way to succeed in life when nowadays it really isn't. The only thing my degree gives me credibility. I didn't learn anything i couldnt have learned on my own without the thousands of dollars of debt I'm paying off.

[Somethingwittty]

That are not completely screwed up* grammar fail for me

[Browneye57]

@Somethingwittty - I know, my kids are 25, 29, 33. All three are highly successful, own their own homes, are well adjusted - no SJW here, they're hetero, no tats, rather conservative.

The youngest got himself into college - all by himself, I didn't help or pay, got a masters in four years and got recruited by a tech-giant in silly-cone-valley making bank. He wouldn't have amounted to a hill of beans had he not gone to college.

So some of what you say is true and good, some is just subjectivity.

But you're right, nobody deserves anything, entitled to nothing - you get what you get for the effort and work you put in, just like everybody else. And the little fucktards that don't like hearing this have now invented the 'ok boomer' come-back. Typically immature and silly, right along with their attitude and persona. Ya just can't fix stupid. Hopefully they'll grow up one day - the hippie-boomers surely did. LOL

[Somethingwittty]

Then you did a fantastic job as a parent and you should be proud to have raise such fine individuals. You are a perfect example of what a good baby boomer should be. I've met plenty of good and bad ones. And the "ok boomer" insult can be applied to any age range. I myself have used it and have had it used on me. It is an insult in regards to older style beliefs. Its mostly applied to close minded individuals or people who are to old-school by today's standards. Use it yourself if you want.

[Browneye57]

@Somethingwittty - I had to be the hard-ass. Mom wanted to be their buddy. The youngest is hers, then two from my previous marriage - the older ones. We don't hear from them much.

[Somethingwittty]

Well man its because they are living the life you taught them how to live and you should still be proud. Dont worry about which child is yours and which isn't. Sounds like you helped raise them all to an extent. Hold your head up my friend. You did well.

[Ianto]

There can be no justification for abandoning hope for a single child, let alone a generation.

[CHARismatic110]

They have to want it

[CarpetDenim]

Why would you feel like that? Would you care to actually explain your thought process instead of speaking all vague?

[CHARismatic110]

Would actually care to not be your usually snarky self and see that I've explained to plenty of people in these comments? Prime example of what I mean.

[CarpetDenim]

I’m not usually snarky, actually. You don’t know anything about me or how I usually act. You asked a vague question and you gave no details whatsoever in your original post. You only offered the explanation that you’re a kindergarten teacher and the 5-year-olds you teach are bratty, which, of course they are, they’re 5, when you were asked multiple times to explain what you’re asking about by other confused users. By the way, you can’t generalize every person aged 12 to 18’s behavior based on the group of 5 year olds you care for. Also, it’s funny how you were polite to those that asked for elaboration who were over the age of 20, but when I ask, suddenly it’s “snarky” and I’m a “prime example” of the doom you predict for my generation. Someone’s a little biased.

[CHARismatic110]

I was polite to those who weren't snarky. And yes, actually I do. Every opinion I've seen of yours you're being ignorant. So before I even seen what you had to say, I knew what it was going to be like. And I teach kindergarten NOW. My school is K-8 and I have experience with kids of all ages. The question isn't vague. Those that wanted to get it, got it. Those that came here ready to be offended, did not.

[CarpetDenim]

“Every opinion I’ve seen of yours you’re being ignorant”
Okay. How am I being ignorant now? What other opinions have I posted in which I’ve come across as ignorant in your opinion? Explain.

“So before I even seen what you had to say, I knew what it was going to be like.”
That is the literal definition of bias. You misinterpreted my pushing for further explanation as “snarky,” because before you even read my opinion, you had a negative, defensive mindset due to your own personal bias against me.

“My school is K-8 and I have experience with kids of all ages.”
I’m sorry, was I supposed to just instinctively know this information about you? You failed to mention this in any of your replies to anyone else, you only said that you were a kindergarten teacher and that you were disappointed to see such disobedience and disrespect in children so young. I have no idea why you think it’s fair to expect everyone to know this information about you when you fail to provide it for them.

“This question isn’t vague. Those that wanted to get it, got it.”
No, they didn’t, because there was nothing to “get” out of this question. You ominously described kids today as a “lost cause” who “don’t want to be saved.” You didn’t explain what you meant by that. You didn’t give any examples to help your audience understand what behaviors make these children a lost cause. Out of the people that agreed with you, most of them who gave an in-depth opinion simply recognized that you were speaking badly of the new generation, and shared their own thoughts on why they also don’t like the new generation. But, at least they gave their own explanations for why they feel the way they do. You did not.

[CHARismatic110]

You talk down to people. Especially on opinions that might differ from others. The initial question is do you think that this generation is lost. I don't feel that the question is vague. I also don't have a problem elaborating for people who don't get what I mean. But if you come at me in a rude and ignorant way, I'm going to respond as such. Now I may not have included my background info which in hindsight, I probably should have. And you say you weren't trying to be snarky but have made sure to comment and agree with most of the other snarky comments.

[CarpetDenim]

I don’t think that’s entirely inaccurate to say. I certainly don’t talk down to people all the time, it depends on the question. Most of the time I try and be positive, encouraging, and genuinely helpful, but if the asker of a particular question is just an idiot, I’m not going to act like they aren’t. Not everyone can vibe with that, and that’s okay, they don’t have to. I felt that your question was indeed vague, and I don’t feel that my initial request for more information was rude or ignorant. But those are both things we’ll have to agree to disagree about because obviously we perceive them in different ways.

[CHARismatic110]

Yup, we'll have to agree to disagree and keep it moving.

[zaffy69]

That isn't our fault! Society has made it hard for us to live in an inhumane world. What do you expect? It was easier for the rest but only because it wasn't as complicated to get your shit together.

[zaffy69]

As well as parents that generation corrupted us. So there's that as well

[CHARismatic110]

True. Society has definitely not been much help. And I'm not really blaming you guys. I guess I'm more frustrated than anything.

[zaffy69]

Yes I'm not going at you. I'm only explaining what I hope others will understand. Though I gotta admit that not all of them are corrupted by society. A portion just do their thing and make the rest who actually give a f*ck look bad.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

"There's no saving them because they don't want to be saved." I can't say I totally agree with that regarding the entire generation. Nonetheless, I have noticed the application of that attitude in many of them.

[distressedanonymus]

Honestly I think gen z is doing better than us millennials. Most of my generation cry and moan of entitlement while I see kids like my brother in law who is 16 fucking 16 getting shit done left and right.

He asks me for business and investing advice and just bought his own car and it's saving for college he wants to become a lawyer and have his own law firm

While people my age are crying because the "boomers" destroyed our sociaty. Help me Bernie Sanders woe is me

[i_am_tbjxii]

You sure? I think my generation a mess too.

[Lucky1974]

Your brother-in-law is not representative of the entire Generation Z, as judging from your message he was born into privileges; therefore your opinion of Generation Z is skewed. Anyone who is born without a disability, to intelligent and successful parents, is raised in a loving and caring home, without domestic violence, and child-abuse will obviously go onto make great strides in their lives; it is virtually impossible for them to fail in life, therefore any successes such off-spring go on to make Are largely down to the privileges they were born into, and very little to do with effort. The above statement isn’t just my opinion, it is widely accepted by the global scientific community. A analogy I like to give is the difference between planting a seed in soil contaminated by radiation, and planting a seed in fertile ground.

[distressedanonymus]

@Lucky1974 he was not my wife's family is actually very poor her mom makes 11 dollars an hour and her husband doesn't.

I wasn't born into privilege either. I'm a millennial and I literally was born into poverty and I'm now almost a millionaire. Excuses won't get you anywhere bro.

Take it from me it can be done.

Regarding climate change instead of waiting for politician to do it just do what you can yourself. For example I plant a three for every sale in my business

[i_am_tbjxii]

@distressedanonymus I’m come from an impoverished family as well bro I’m trying to make it out. Your right no excuses, you can make if if you have that drive.

[CHARismatic110]

Like he said, your brother in law is definitely not the representative for all kids his age. And most of the people I know that are our age work hard as hell.

[FlaviusStilicho]

Yes. Our lives are too easy, with no great generational problems to solve or (attainable) horizons to explore. And no meaningful purpose beyond "me, me, me".

Granted, millennials are the end result of the trends that boomers started.

[RedThread]

When I was a kid I remember other kids being huge assholes. I was treated worse as a kid than I have ever been in my life up to now. They have no respect or sense of authority. I'm sure I was an asshole kid too but I'm biased because it was me.

[CHARismatic110]

Same. Kids were pretty bad back then but it's on a whole other level now. You could scare a kid back then. These kids don't fear anything now.

[RedThread]

Damn people are going in on you for this question.. 🤔

[CHARismatic110]

They don't want to see what I'm asking. They wanna keep acting like they don't get it lol. Which is completely fine. Because I can act stupid too.

[Taiisoffthe]

Some of em get it. don't ever lose full hope in humanity. Or we lose... more than we already have.

[CHARismatic110]

Oh absolutely. There are diamonds and gems in the rough and I will always keep pushing to expose them.

[kamiljano]

You just forgot all the stupid shit you used to do in this age.

[CHARismatic110]

I didn't forget anything. These kids are 10x worse than what I was.

[EleanorRigby]

Every generation feels that way for younger generations. They'll get by.

[DorkVader]

I was coming to say this same thing lol. It's like the music thing. As we get older, music gets "worse" but it's not. It's just different.

[Codywow]

@DorkVader no, modern music is objectively worse.

[DorkVader]

^^^^ My point

[October808]

@Codywow Mostly copycats of what came before.

[October808]

But without any sincerity.

[EleanorRigby]

@DorkVader exactly.

[CHARismatic110]

Nah, their a whole different breed. But thanks for your opinion.

[DorkVader]

You don't think every older generation has hated every newer generation's music and sense of style for ages? It's historical fact

[EleanorRigby]

@DorkVader yes, and every older generation likes to think of themselves as of the last sane ones. Good old days and all.

[DockEllisDee]

Sorry this literally has zero to do with the topic but you have the Best username I've seen on any site in quite some time. Kudos!

[DockEllisDee]

( @EleanorRigby )

[EleanorRigby]

@DockEllisDee thank you 😁

[Drowningkingfish]

Could you elaborate on why you think teenagers 12-18 are a lost cause?

[CHARismatic110]

Sure. I mostly feel like that because of their attitudes. You can't tell them anything because they know everything. They aren't receptive to learning much from others and accepting help. Being an educator it's hard to teach them.

[Magicstar]

I am sure elders once said the same about my generation. Life finds a way to perpetuate itself. They will do what is best for them as they mature ideally.

[MoscowMitch]

They're the result of bad parenting, poor education and a society that would rather criticize them than help them. Bearing all that in mind I think they're doing okay.

[CHARismatic110]

Somewhat true. You can't help those that don't want or care to be helped. And I see every single day just how much a lot of these children don't want ir think they need to be helped.

[Apple1996]

Teenagers are always and will always be lost. Once they hit adulthood they will be fine

[wankiam]

they are still kids and as such dont need to feel responsible

[Adrian2306]

generation is lost from 2004 when facebook came online

[Codywow]

Zuckerburg should just delete system32 of Facebook.

[Adrian2306]

when everything got instantly available... when guys and girls start living their lives so that they can get "likes" and boost their confidence on that and not actually working and improving themself... when everything became just a shadow how it actually is...

then generation is lost

facebook, instagram, twitter...

bring nokia 3310 and you will see how generation is improving when you need to actually talk to someone to present yourself and get a real "like"

good old days

[October808]

@Codywow He probably has it in x64 as well.

[CHARismatic110]

I don't fully disagree. I mean things were cool when MySpace was around, but once Facebook went full steam ahead... shit hit the fan.

[Adrian2306]

brought the worst in human nature

[i_am_tbjxii]

I agree they are discovering porn to early. A lot of them are disrespectful as well.

[CHARismatic110]

They're mad disrespectful. Working in a K-8 you'd surprised at how much the disrespect comes from the younger ones. It's crazy.

[i_am_tbjxii]

Ever since they demonize spankings. 🤷🏽‍♂️. They act like corporal punishments work.

[Codywow]

Corporal punishment does work, how else do you punish corporals. Bad pun aside, corporal punishment isn't necessarily hitting someone. Corporal punishment can also be physical activity or doing military drill/any physical discipline.

[i_am_tbjxii]

Then why are so many kids disrespectful today? Maybe you wanna pay the teachers a visit. I’m sure they would think otherwise.

[J_Klayton]

I think they watch too much online porn at too young of an age.
It's not normal porn either.
Yeah, they worry me a bit.

[Rangers]

Absolutely not, they're the most conservative generation yet despite so many leftists trying to force their flawed beliefs and censoring anyone who calls their nonsense.

[WalkingBassist]

This generation cannot supply enough able bodied males or females who can pass basic physical and mental requirements.

[WalkingBassist]

This gen can't fill the military billets. In other words, there's not enough soldiers, sailors, mechanics, technicians, cooks, engineers etc. Not to mention that seal teams require 12 men, but over the past 10 years, their numbers have been dwindling down as low as 7 or 8 per team. Shame on you.

[Shamalien]

I feel they hold more promise. The majority falls deeper into darkness, sure, but the minority grows in both strength and number

[esotericstory]

I agree. They have nothing essential in their lives, only substantial things. They have no purpose.

[CHARismatic110]

They have purpose. Everyone does. They just lack the ability to fulfill it.

[esotericstory]

No they dont, purpose is created by community, these people are individualists.

[Frankiealaplaaja]

There's a lot more potential in my current batch of students than there is in my own generation.

[CHARismatic110]

Yes and the problem is that they aren't tapping into it

[Frankiealaplaaja]

Mine are actually. In fact one of 'em is taking up writing classes. She wants to make satire Like I did for a while.
For one of the lower levels of education, I'd say that's pretty impressive. So have a little perspective and try not to be so generalizing.

[CHARismatic110]

Awesome. I'm a writer too

[winterfox10]

Really? I feel like those guys are better than people in our age range.

[CHARismatic110]

There are some gems in the bunch, but as a collective? No. I'm trying to reach them before they get to that stage and hopefully instill some good stuff into them.

[winterfox10]

Oh, you're a teacher?

[CHARismatic110]

Kindergarten

[Nadim171]

Yeah, it's kinda true. We were born in a time of chaos.

[angelospetlis]

You are talking about teenagers here. I don't think we can judge their hormones and their school schedules

[itsaed_94]

I agree with you. And it keeps getting worse. Kids of my generation were a lot more innocent.

[CHARismatic110]

Definitely getting worse

[Nic1330]

in my opinion the generation you're referring to is trying to become too smart for its own good.

[TremorJay]

Saving them from what?

[CHARismatic110]

Themselves.

[TremorJay]

Still vague as fuck

[CarpetDenim]

Lmao, for real. Still trying to figure out what this question is even asking about.

[TremorJay]

Yeah, I feel like traditional classrooms will need to evolve. Learning should be more independent anyways.

When kids have the freedom to learn whatever they want, whenever they want by picking up their cellphone. Putting them in a room and trying to force them to learn about history and biology is nonsense.

We need new ways to facilitate learning and collaboration, not government regulated curriculums.

Anyways I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but that's what I think

[R_Cakes91]

Hahaha what the fuck are you talking about?

[CHARismatic110]

I'm talking about the kids I see running through the halls every day cursing teachers out and disrespecting their peers. I'm talking about them lashing out when you try to help them. I'm talking about them not giving a fuck about anything. That's what I'm talking about.

[R_Cakes91]

That’s not just the recent generation’s attitude. Not saying it’s ok but it’s nothing new.

[CHARismatic110]

True but it's just so much worse. And seeing it every day and with kids so young, it's just disheartening.

[R_Cakes91]

Are you a teacher or something?

[CHARismatic110]

I am.

[R_Cakes91]

Awh that explains it.

[CHARismatic110]

Yup.

[Alexa002]

I don’t think so. But I’m teenager but saved from what?

[sejla]

Dang no they are not lost.

[sejla]

I'm tired of people tearing younger adults apart. There is good and bad in every generation. It is better to look at what good the people in our own generation are doing. It is easy to play the blame game.

[sejla]

the negativity toward young adults is astounding. I was a good kid always but the stuff I saw kids do in the 60s and 70s many of the kids today would never have thought of pulling. And a lot of young people are worried about their futures. Some of them saw there parents struggle with the recession. KIds got jobs early to either help out the family or to not have their parents pay for things.

Young people are not all lazy, lost, etc. They know they have to work hard, learn a skill or go to college because they can't necessarily depend on others to help them out. Older adults are supposed to be mentors and the support to younger adults.

[CHARismatic110]

I asked the question and gave my thoughts based off MY experience. I'm around kids every single day as an educator. Teaching and mentoring is what I do. I'm not tearing anyone down. I'm also not going to pretend to have blinders on. It's very disheartening to see the behaviors that I see on a daily basis.

[sejla]

It can't be all on the kids. They have parents. When I was in school I saw kids drinking and high in school and that was in the 70s. The school district was for a small city of 13,000 with the outlying country areas. Rich kids were bored and got themselves into alcohol and drugs. I remember listening to two boys whose parents were executives in the local big company making arrangements for a bulk marijuana buy in the lunch line. Parents were buying kegs for their kids graduations parties. etc. etc. etc. It was just that kids were sneakier than now.

[spartan55]

We said the same thing about your generation too.

[CHARismatic110]

I'm sure. But it's far worse.

[spartan55]

I believe it.

[BreakingSound]

Okay boomer.

[CHARismatic110]

Lmao I'm not even a decade older than you. Get a grip.

[BreakingSound]

Cool, then stop acting like a boomer with all your stupid pearl clutching about "kids these days".

[CHARismatic110]

Lmao says the one who's talking about clutched pearls. Ok grandma. Forgive me for actually giving a damn.

[BreakingSound]

Give a damn about what? All you did is say "Man, these kids are a lost cause". You didn't even have a ~point~. You literally bitched about nothing.

Like a boomer.

[CarpetDenim]

@BreakingSound 100% agree!

[CHARismatic110]

I didn't bitch about a thing. I asked a QUESTION. Your job is to answer the question according to YOUR opinion.

[This_is_my_username]

Yes and no. And omg! So good to see you girl 😍😍

[CHARismatic110]

Omg how are youuu!

[This_is_my_username]

😍😍😍😍 I'm good! How are you? I'm so happy to see you here

[CHARismatic110]

I knowww, it's been so long! I'm doing ok how are you?

[Kthenlily]

Aren't all kids pretty lost?

[CHARismatic110]

Not all of them. But I feel like a lot of them are.

[abhi____]

You can't label them. These are kids. let them explore them with their own way.

[CHARismatic110]

@abhi____ as an educator it's hard to just let them go their own way when their own way is down a path of destruction

[abhi____]

I think you are expecting them to live like your were child some 20-30 years back generation.. These kids are getting ready to bright 2050 . So they deserve their freedom.

[abhi____]

@charismatic110 can you please elaborate 'lost' for my better understanding

[CHARismatic110]

@abhi____ nah I don't expect them to live like I did. I'm def trying to be the person I wished I had when I was younger. I understand that times change lol. I'm not dumb. They deserve freedom but they don't get to be disrespectful in the process. There's a balance. And it's lacking severely.

[abhi____]

When we we're in school it was taught to give respect to everybody... was that correct?

When they will feel genuine respect for a person they will give. That's a normal human nature. I think no need to label them as lost. @charismatic110

[CHARismatic110]

@abhi____ I'm going based off MY experience dealing with them every day. You can disagree. That's fine.