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There's two aspects to this, first is fashion. Women have a much greater range of fashion than men, while our clothes are more functional women's clothes are far more designed to please others, if others think she looks good then often a woman will take validation from that.
There is the counter side of this though which is if your open to validation then you similarly open to scrutiny too, they go hand in hand.
Then the other aspect is a woman's body, again this is a double edged sword because a woman wearing a bikini and being told she looks great wants to be seen and admired by other women and wanted by other men, sadly though this means again that if your open to validation your open to scrutiny.
Why this is difficult to understand is beyond me.
Why then don't we talk about men's appearance and bodies in the same way, well the fact is that women do. The dab bod is an example, women sitting in a group discussing the size of penis is another talking about clothing choices of men is also an example
So in truth scrutiny of males and females is the same, in fact then given that men have a very similar shape and size and then given that fashion and design is for most designers an afterthought to include men it can be argued that the scrutiny men face is therefore much larger or worse than that which women face
I don't think women are judged on their appearance significantly more than men are you just complain about it more.
Men are also judged/made fun of for being too fat or too skinny and when a man is made fun of for their weight no one cares, but when women are made fun of for their appearance people actually care/get angry and it is called "body shaming".
Men are judged more heavily on their height which unlike weight is something you have no control over.
Men are also judged/made fun of for having receeding hairlines/balding.
The average woman seems to get a lot more attention from the opposite sex than the average man does. This has been demonstrated by just about every dating site that has ever released statistics and even anecdotally at clubs/parties/online forum (ie women are more likely to complain about getting TOO MUCH attention from the opposite sex while men complain about getting NONE. If men's standards were really higher I would expect to see the reverse ie men being hit on/ propositioned for sex more often than women and women acting more desperate.
Because men are attracted to women by age, appearance alone because of breeding suitability. It's biological. Healthy looking, attractive women in a certain age range are prime breeding material and attract men because they can spread their biological genes. That's what it's all about... This is why women choose slightly older men who are also healthy looking but have financial and emotional stability. It's also why much older men who are still sexually viable are still marketable, whereas MUCH older women, no matter their finanacial stability, are NOT. Because they cannot provide genetic offspring. HowEVER, men who have already spread their genetic material successfully CAN choose an older woman for life companionship when they no longer need to support young children and become generative for their grandchildren or other young related offspring!!!
Sure we saw it all fold out in UK politics the other week.
I don't care people's opinions of her dress when Boris Johnson gets away looking so untidy.
It's the insults that followed that completely attached her character.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2020/feb/05/why-tracy-brabin-was-right-to-give-sexist-critics-the-cold-shoulder
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Probably because men are judged on their status and money I. E. How good of a provider they are. Whereas women are judged on how fertile they are and having good dna which is typically what's considered beautiful, such as symmetrical faces with nice proportions, healthy teeth, hourglass figure and a healthy weight.
This is just biological. But when it comes to really scrutinising girls you need to ask other girls because they are the pros
In my lifetime I have heard people comment on others behind their backs at work and so forth. But honestly I never hear men speak negatively about girls, they do comment on girls they like though. However it's the opposite with the girls I've been around, they seem to always have seething negative to say about other girls and they don't seem to balance this out by saying anything nice about anyone at all. I know I am sexist with some of my stereotypes but it's just based on my own experience, which is women are really not nice to each other and when working together seems to be very passive aggressive and bitchy. I really think the aim of feminism shouldn't be on men exclusively but focused more on girls being supportive to each other. Because let's face it 90% of girls who dress up nicely and wear makeup are doing to show off to other girls, no guy gives a shit about your handbag or shoes. Men like each other until they have reason not to, women seem to hate each other until they have a reason to like them.
*something not seething
Also just to add, most men are also quite basic in what they look for and in terms of nitpicking and so forth this really is a domain exclusive to women. It's pretty ironic women do day it's mens fault, then those same wen get pissed off when their boyfriend doesn't notice their haircut or eyebrows and so forth because most us just don't care.
I challenge you to pick a set of guys, as many as you like and ask them one by one if they care about appearance.
Guaranteed most if not all will say they don't. Men are not as picky and shallow as they get credit for we actually can make do with anything and be happy as long as it's within the range of normal.
Wrong. Guys do care a lot. There is a reason idle eastern women put effort in appearance.
There is a difference between being content with what you can get and kind of girl you actually want. Most guys will choose girl who put effort in her appearance. You can see that in porn, mens magazines, lingerie+swimsuit models, advertisements targeted at men, actresses in movies especially targeted at male demographic. If men didn't care about appearance women wouldn't put so much effort for nightout, there is a reason girls put effort in nightclubs. If girl decides not too guys like yourself would go straight for girls who did.
I don’t think most men are picky about weight at all. Obesity is different but even then I think women are picky about that. I often see slight guys with chubby chicks or dudes into obese chicks. Never seen a woman withthe same fetish’s... they generally get dudes slight... then end up sticking around once they’re chubby.
Judging by your two photos, anyone who wouldn't give you attention is simply blind. You're not even all the way chubby.
As for women being picky, they sure are. But I've actually been turned down by some who later started dating extremely fat dudes. I never understand the appeal especially after the hard work I put to stay fit since I have a body that can easily go fat.
I believe a lot of men feel bad and rejected based on their income and size of their dick by themselves mostly and project that o to women as if all women dislike them for their small wallet and small penis so in turn they want to hurt women and attack them calling them old and broken after 29.
Some men just have bad luck that’s all but those tend to be the men who are angry at women for their misfortune, and perhaps some of them did get treated bad or rejected for one of the two reasons I stated above but really they are in the minority, but yet those men go on to label and hate all women alike for those that have treated them bad and others never even had a chance or whatever reason and too fall onto that boat who disgrace and hate women.
I see how society judges women differently, and I hate to say this, but. . .
WOMEN ACCEPT the judgments of 'society' and seem to think they need to be what society expects!! BULLSHIT!!
It won't change, until women stop accepting, and submitting to being judged, and stand up against that, as a few are!
The labels, the brands, fashion, make-up, is all a HUGE manipulation of women, to make them think that they need to conform to those standards, those fashions, the 'way' of things, or be rejected, maybe?
Women are for sure more judged on their appearance for sure.
People smoke the argument that it’s because ‘men are more visual’ but I think that’s an excuse. I think it’s a leftover piece of societal misogyny, women basically used to be considered possessions, as awful as that is it is true. So they are going to be thought of as valuable if they look good and know how to ‘behave’ in a way that is considered unoffencively.
We’re as traditionally men are judged by how much money they make and if hey have good jobs. Because they need to provide a stable environment for the wife and children they will traditionally be ‘in charge of’.
Hopefully this changes as time goes on, but part of the problem is these things become part of our identities. I would argue part of the reason gender fluidity has become a common enough thing is because people do not feel represented or connected to these traditional ideals.
Because guys are very visual and in order to attract a guy women have to be very visually attractive So guys scrutinize women on their luxe that’s what makes us attracted to women and makes us want to pursue them that’s why a 300 pound woman is not going to get a man.
Man we are scrutinized by our income if we’re working minimum wage we are the 300 pound woman if we are making someone over there isn’t leaving we turn into about a 200 pound woman If you’re making over $1 million we turned into the guy said get the actual beautiful women and if you were Jeff Bezos you can have as many women as you want because everyone’s going to sleep with you in hopes to get a couple billion from you. Women are golddiggers guys are pigs that’s life
Mainly due standards. It's annoying, though. I had a coworker tell another that she should go put some makeup because she looked terrible and another one being referenced as 'dead' for not having the usual layers on her face.
None of this men receive even a comment about how they look tired, don't dress nice or wear cologne.
Guys are very obsessed with beautiful women. I was once in class and this very pretty girl got inside the room and every guy in class was just staring at her watching her. She became the centre of the universe (poor woman she got so uncomfortable ) so yeah guys are so into looks. more than women. We want our fantasies to be in flesh and blood.
also a pretty young woman on a mans arm is an indication of power. (Especially when he is older) look at Donald trump how obsessed he is about having a 10 for a wife with him. its not only about sex for him its about”look at me i got her, i am the man”
But she looks like a transvestite.
Yea I have seen this happens not only here but in real life too. I think the attack is just to weaken us since we are aware of how much we are valued based on our look alone. They wanna make you feel worthless and insecure. Do not feed them.
I've heard some women be incredibly mean things towards men especially when drinking. I've heard every thing from calling a singer fat and ugly to talking about how important penis size is. We are rapidly catching up on being really catty about men's looks. It's not attractive.
It is natural to male to brag about his penis size (while most measure wrong for some extra inches). If in doubt and I guess you know the page, look here for some real stats: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size
I have no idea... On that same token, statistically women are more critical of other women than men are...
Men that choose that path aren't adults in my opinion, they are still sad little children.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-women-are-meaner-to-each-other-than-men-are-to-women-2018-03-05
I assure you, men have just as high expectations as women do. If anything, men give each other higher expectations than they do women. Women certainly on average seem to be far less open to men and their personal traits than vice versa. Men aren't as picky as women...
We judge you for all kinds of stuff. Women are just obsessed with looks so that’s the only thing they hear. It’s like an OCD patient that can only stare the cracks in the sidewalk. They think it’s the only thing in the world, but that’s not really what’s happening.
To be honest, its because females scrutinise their appearance more than males do. Women see a zero size model and want to look like that, blokes see a male model with a six pack and think... too much effort. On here though, many male trolls with nothing better to do so just ignore them.
Maybe so but that doesn't mean women are as innocent bad you might think they are
The amount of comebacks involving dick ( which is the best they got ) and no of women who reject men due to height is staggering
@wittymilf That is for some males sadly true. They feel insecure when they face reality that they have a mini-penis and that can only stimulate the vaginal entrance a little, nothing felt inside by the penetrated woman (and butt, too). But most seem to compare themselves what we see in most mainstream porn movies, BBCs and other "really" big penises, and they forget that most of these penises are mostly enlarged and in nature very rare (see #Wikipedia - Human Penis Size).
But anyway, most women are not into penis sizes, mostly into emotional bond and some like their pussies being "filled out". And most male don't know that even a small penis can satisfy a woman. :-)
It's because in general, guys are more visually stimulated, and women are more mentally stimulated.
If you'll notice, a big portion of the gay community look "better" than the normal straight guy, just like the lesbian community in general looks far less attractive than the straight female community. (notice I said most, not all.)
I'm not gonna say that appearance standards for men are equal because I don't know but men are a lot more judged than we realize. Its just that appearance standards for men aren't vocalized as much because we've just decided that how it should be, whereas women are now fighting back against body standards so there's a back and forth happening. I think the more people argue about it the more its brought to light and there just aren't that many men complaining about body standards.
It's women doing it to each other. Just a game of oneupmanship. Keeping up with the Joanies' became a way of life once magazines and TV's became a thing and while there has been some effort to downplay this in recent years, it just flairs right back up in your faces when you least expect it.
I think as a society, we tend to hold women on higher peditols than men are held. I mean, women determine if there will be a continuation of our species. Women tend to be more versatile than guys in appearance. Guys can merely change our beard or hair- clothes- stuff like that. Women are just naturally prettier than men. So when our society sees a woman out, in less than how we view them- it sort of destroys our illusion of that wo. an at that time. Us guys, we're ugly 24/7, so there's that
Men aren't valued as much for our appearance. We're valued for strength, courage, intelligence things like that. We're the soldiers , workers and administrative class in human society. Human's have a certain evolutionary strategy for survival just like every other living thing on earth.
Maybe because you are a woman so you experience or just noticed this conversations more. Personally i hear more stories of women attack other women on this issues. Now your experience are just as valid as mine.
Now even men are victims of theses kinds of attacks. I believe the statement that women are more unfairly subjected to criticism of this nature that men. And I believe it a byproduct of historical strick gender role that we are in the process of redefining.
Patriarchy. You need to realize that all of our history until the last 3 decades, it was a male run society.
Most men on here just hate women cuz they can't get any women. Don't take them too seriously
Whew, close call. I was concerned you were brainwashed by the 3rd wave feminists and believed that the male dominated hierarchies were to source of lots of issues from gender inequalities to abuse. Glad you were not being serious, it’s concerning some people are lost in Marxism and don’t put their faith in something better. Ty for the discussion, cheers.
Blames shit on patriarchy
Tells a man lowers himself by dating a stripper basically telling that a stripper is the lowest human beings
Don't listen to her guys she sexist to both men and women
She just mad that no man wants her and that strippers are better looking that she will ever be
Because many women are shallow and superficial enough that their looks is all they care about.
Women do it to themselves. Marketing, influencer marketing, modeling, public relations, these are all industries women dominate in. These industries require you to use your appearance to be successful. Who's selling all the make up to women? Instagram girls who start up their own companies, not men, its women doing it.
sexism, it's a society that objectifies us and most people are ok with that
Males are basically visual creatures. Women, I have little understanding of, but believe it's similar to the animal world and reproduction 101. ... in birds, all but 1 species on the planet, the male or cock bird, has all the pretty visual colouration and calls and mating dances etc... to attract the rather drab dull female (henbird) to breed... only the Eclectus parrot of Papua New Guinea is opposite... Sooo, I equate homosapien as similar, except in our breed of animal, mammal... etc, the female is the pretty sex gender. It's simple ABC, birds and bees... 😻
@dandieseled11 Yes, I love looking at my girlfriend's nude pictures a lot. And when I visit her in person, I want to have a long-lasting look on every detail of her body. I always allow her to do the same. Yes, males are into visual (I don't like running porn movies in the background), wanting to see some beautiful boobs and vulva/pussy (spread her lips gently).
Because women are easily manipulated and overly emotional and will buy stupid products to fix themselves and please other people. Men won't really do that as much but media is trying to figure out how to make them as low in confidence also.
Thank you for saying it. Sad to see that so many are being manipulated into buying such trash. I don't mind if she didn't wash her hair with some expensive brand or have no lip stick/makeup at all on her skin. A simple shampoo for washing and a no-name deodorant (being well tested dermatological does it for me at least. :-)
@roland77 you really don't need any of those products... In fact certain parts of the body should only be washed with water unless one was rolling in the mud.
This extensive washing and using too many chemicals I'd very harsh on the biggest organ called our skin. 😕
@roland77 ☺️😊yes I guess 😛
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Oh shit. Where you been? Haven’t seen you awhile
Like what?
Haha okay
Because to men, womens appearance is highly important. To women, men's appearance is less important.
Because i really want to have sex with a hot girl and i really dont with a not hot girl. And i like to have sex.
That's a highly subjective statement skewed by you being a woman yourself and limited by your few experiences. Don't be so quick to paint the world in an image impulsively conjured by an indignant mind.
I'd say because female attraction is based on appearance and fashion is currently strongly focused on women. It's not the only thing but its a key part
It is like asking "why society scrutinize if a man is being a sissy"
Women = beauty
Man = dominance..
Society will scrutinize a females beauty..
And equally scrutinize a male being sissy..
The female body is like gold.. Irresistible to most men. And some culture forbids it.. The body of a woman is well covered like a queen in my place.. In Africa. Lol
Incels didn't even know it was a word, quite a bit of it though. If people believe everyone is hooking up but them might feel? like its someones fault other than their own. I guess its pussy envy
Because men are visual creatures and too many men are judgmental. As it says in "Are Women the Stronger Sex?" free from obooko, men will often judge a woman by her looks, rather than taking the time to get to know her as a person.
It doesn't.
Females do that to themselves.
We don't care nearly as much as they think we do.
Have you asked this question to your husband?
In a male dominant world every guys feels his natural duty to comment upon women without realizing that it is none of their business. Psychologically it satisfies their false supremacy concept.
Because men's lack of good looks can be made up for by money and status. Doesn't happen with women to that extent, sadly.
Because men are way more physical while women are way more psychological
Cuz females choose to let peer pressure and competition get to them... They do not know how to accept themselves that's why women have to take over 3 hours to get ready and spend 10000 on surgery.
Yeah females are weird
Why does society scrutinize so much more male ambition, status, height, "size", personality, confidence, force?
I'm hesitant that women complain about being judged for ONE thing, I wonder if you were judged like men
It is not right to do such a thing. I don't judge people about their appearance which was given to them by nature.
Not sure how true that is but In my experience the people who tend to scrutinize most is women towards other women!
I'm guessing it has something to do with the standards of beauty and being ladylike
Guys who do that usually don't like themselves and they project their own low self esteem onto others.
Why do you care what others think of you? Just chill and enjoy your life.
Well if you listen to women insultin eachother or talking behind eachothers backs they mainly insults those aspects to, so its probably that those kinds of insults works well on women i guess 🤔
Women are trying to ask for the equality here is the equility chance to prove that you are equal
Because men get scrutinised more on literally everything else
Women's worth is much more closely linked to her appearance than is true for men.
Because, in general, they smell nicer than guys.
Next!
Because you look so beautiful and we want to admire you
You ask this question as though you are new to the planet. Men and women are different. Ugly women are as valued as poor unaccomplished men.
Because for so long it was interpreted as their value.
Very antiquated thinking. And very wrong thinking.
Not true. I get excluded because I'm not attractive. Women tell me I'm fantastic, amazing, empathetic but won't date me...
It's mostly other females who scrutinize othe female's appearance
Even then the boyfriend is nicer, women are fucking brutal
Well of course guys will prefer to look at women so, naturally, you are bound to be more scrutinized.
Men's appearance gets attacked all the time. Only difference is nobody cares about attacking appearances until it happens to women.
To be honest, I don’t care about that. I’m not a fan of makeup on women - I just like you to be clean and take care of yourself like everyone.
Society doesn't do It, its women Who actually do it onto themselves and fellow women.
Cuz life is unfair 🤷♂️ Men are scrutinized on money, status and dick size
True for some women, especially here on GaG... ;-) 2 here already think I'm hit when they tell me I have a mini-penis (which I don't). I just laugh about it as my girlfriend knows better. And isn't it a male thing to brag about our penis size? She even allowed me to brag about it, I don't like bragging, so I told her straight away the facts about it: length, circumference, erection strength.
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