I disagree with you at full blast because you black folks aren't the the only ones having it bad at the moment. regardless you should thankful that you're not a slave like your ancestors were.
"Black men are being killed at a rate 3x higher than white men." by who? by other black men and abortion?
cause those are the two leading cause of death to the black race. if you black lives matters individuals really did care about black folks you would all be protesting abortion clinics and preaching blacks in the hood to stop committing drive by and other violence.
All Lives Matter is not racist just because you think it is. There is nothing racist about saying everyone matters, That makes no sense.
I understand what you are saying. Obviously, all lives don't matter if black lives don't matter, but that goes for the rest as well. Black lives have always mattered. Just because there are cruel people in this world doesn't mean they don't. Blacks are a great contributor to blacks being killed at a higher rate because they kill each other, a lot. This country isn't anti-black, but I know that does not mean there are no white supremist, being that our former president used every opportunity to insult every other race but his own.
Saying "Black lives matter" creates an exclusion of white people. This only turns the situation in the opposite direction. The problem is not a racial one, it is one of justice and corruption. The fact that the police do not treat all people equally, both white and black, is a serious mistake of the American justice system. The law must be applied equally, if a black person needs to be beaten in order to be arrested, the same must be done with whites. If the justice system arrests innocent people, in which there are more black people, it is the fault of the government and leadership system. As far as I know, both black and white people have the same rights in the United States today.
All lives matter. Period and Amen. Males and females, He created them in His own image. God made ONE race - the human race. And, God saw that it was good.
If you don't believe we are all of the human race with varying degrees of "tannish-ness", then you will find that blacks are the worst enemy of other blacks, not whites, and not the police. Educate yourselves.
If that's the case then stand up for other social issues as well if you want all the support without being hated or something. I don't see BLM protesters standing up for anything other than black people. So to elaborate my point, you can try to rationally help other opressed or any social group which society thinks need real help (like poor homeless people). Then it might be easy to surpass the image BLM protesters have made in front of the whole world. You really need to get rid of that fake support as well.
While I'm an ardent and unapologetic supporter of Black Lives Matter, I can't say the phrase "all lives matter" is racist. Its like saying "all cancers matter" in a Breast Cancer Awareness event is somehow anti-cancer, when in fact it isn't. Sure it is unnecessary and "all cancers matter" people are missing the point, but that doesn't make them anti-cancer.
It makes them ignorant to say all cancers matter. There’s a very strong correlation between ignorance and racism. People who say those things don’t automatically put them in the same league as the KKK. But they’re not far off.
It's not cancer though, it's race. The point of all lives matter is to stop grouping people and making decisions based on race. So what if the analogy was a black breast cancer event and the protest crowd is saying "all cancers matter". That's a better reflection of what is happening. They're saying how about we just treat cancer and not separate people based on superficial characteristics. And it should probably be thyroid cancer as a rare and a relatively high survival rate to better suit the analogy.
Are racial separatists racists? Because you could apply your version of the cancer analogy there too.
@AllThatSweetJazz I agree, but all of that is besides the point. The question is are "All lives matter" people racists? My answer to that is no they aren't racists, but I do beleve they are misunderstanding the entire point of Black Lives Matter. I know well intentioned people who say "All Lives Matter" and there are a ton of those in Houston. They aren't saying that because of some racist belief.
Loll okay sorry after reading all these comments I'm afraid every single person on this comment thread misunderstood my analogy either completely or in parts. So I'll just reword it loll:
While I'm an ardent and unapologetic supporter of Black Lives Matter, I can't say the phrase "all lives matter" is racist. Its like saying "All cancers need to be eliminated" in a Breast Cancer Awareness event is somehow anti-cancer. Saying "All cancers need to be eliminated" by DEFAULT isn't an anti-cancer statement. It would be nice to eliminate ALL cancers, but saying that in a Breast Cancer Awareness event is diminishing the importance of Breast cancer. This, however, doesn't make the slogan "anti-cancer" even though it is diminishing the importance of a certain awareness.
Now to link this analogy with race since everyone here misunderstood that part. Black Lives Matter is about raising awareness for the brutality Black people are facing in the hands of our justice system and law enforcement officials. Now saying "All Lives Matter" in a Black Lives Matter protest IS problematic since its trying to diminish the importance of Black awareness BUT that doesn't make the statement racist. Someone can say "Asian Lives Matter", does that make them racist? Does my life not matter? Of course it does, but that slogan is counterproductive to the Black Lives Matter protest. This, however, doesn't make the slogan "All Lives Matter" or "Asian Lives Matter" racist even though it is diminishing the importance of a certain awareness.
Okay so maybe I used to many words. Most people don’t think it’s racist. But it’s borderline racist, and disrespectful. If you said “all cancers need to be eliminated” during breast cancer awareness, people would ask, “do you have an issue with women?” Because in what logic would you have to diminish someone else’s movement.
Yeah its so my mistake loll when I said "anti-cancer" I meant "anti-cancer awareness" which I know COMPLETLEY changes the meaning but yeah loll God I wish there was an edit button so I didn't need to write in edits afterwards in such an embarrassing way 😂
“They aren't saying that because of some racist belief.” I totally got the analogy and I’m agreeing with the part where they're not racist. My response was outside of the bound of the Asker’s question true, but it was more a commentary on your analogy and the circumstance it attempts to describe. My point being that not only do they not say they because of some racist belief, they say it because they are opposed to racism and furthermore are commenting on something real – they aren’t “missing the point at all”, they’re nailing it. But if you’re saying you’re in agreement with all that, then cool.
First off saying all lives matter isn't bad because first off black people to me need to realize there own worth and value to themselves not just to others. 2nd black own things aren't gonna help the black community if all these black men keep going to jail for major crimes. 3rd i don't believe all lives matter was solely base on racism and the fact that BLM just came around when it did. However i do believe that some do have that opinion and those guys are pieces of shit. As for the black president, we already had that, if you want black people to start doing better than you need to tell them or show them that the path of crime isn't worth it, because that's where a majority of black people go and is it there fault, some what yes and some what no. I personally blame the parents but yea
That poll result gives me hope. All lives is inclusive Black lives excludes others and why is it as a black man is it that when a black person kills another black person there are no marches? (There was a kid killed in Georgia and police officer killed during the so called protests) or when a black person kills another race?
Last thing - The Black Lives Matter organization website uses black men and male teens like Trayvon Martin but before they edited their goals and mission statement you could not find the word father there but you could find mother. They want to disrupt the nuclear family and as a dude why would i support something that wants to eradicate me I am not that much of a sheep.
I saw a video clip on tv, taken at some event in New York. Some female politician was talking on stage and she made the mistake of saying "... actually, every life matters". She was booed off stage. What I looked at that huge crowd, it reminded me of a klan rally. There is zero difference. If you look up the word, "racist" there is not a color attached to it. It does not mean "being discriminating against black people". If you hate another race you are racist. Period.
First, black people deaths are mostly from black people. Second, there is no white supremacy anymore, it's not 18th century. US even had black president. Third, all lives matter means that there is a line of respect for all races, and if any race gets below the line, we should help it back up again. You said only blacks are treated bad, this saying is racist and supremacist actually. You became the one you were afraid from. I believe you are from the US, so what about the native Americans? Minority that matter less than you? Come on!
As for your update, it cannot be like that in the US from a simple answer, there are less African American than whites, so statistically there are going to be more white things than African American overall.
By definition it is raceless. It doesn't specify any race but equally states the value of Human life. That being said, it misses the point, but so does blm. What we should be saying is Black Families Matter. Because it is true and why so many black people are dying and suffering. From the abortion of Black Children. The slaughtering of Black Children by Street Thugs. This all goes back to the black household which is 70% single Mother. The lack of Black Fathers in the Home is destroying Black families. A child raised in a single mother household regardless of race is more likely to drop out of school, do drugs, become a prostitute or other criminal, become physically unhealthy, become homeless, get killed, and will start more single mother house holds. Black Families Matter, marriage matters.
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No. Because racism is a procedural fault, not a fault in outcome. Choosing your procedure to include considerations of race is racism, regardless of outcome. Removing racial considerations from your procedure is the absence of racism, regardless of outcome. And we can *know* that it's all about race because of the obvious neglect of other threads of identity. That is to say people who defend BLM make it about BLACK men, instead of black MEN. If we want to engage in the silly numbers games that BLM's defenders like to say, then the through-line of MEN is the greater axis of discrimination than BLACK. Yet we don't hear the chants saying male lives matter. So it really reeks of racism when the numbers only matter when it comes to race.
The least racist interpretation of Black Lives Matter is when it is spoken from a place of ignorance.
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Also, besides all that, they're not even the highest represented in the data anyway. So there's just numerous problems with it.
Well over 90% of black men are killed by other blacks (vast majority of them black men). Claims of systemic racism against blacks are delusional. As is this "imaginary white supremacy". And leftists control all institutions in the US, so you're accusing them of "systemic racism" and "white supremacy".
Personally, I believe that every human being was born into this world equal, regardless for their color or race. It is what you do with your life that changes your worth, one way or another. I believe that every life matters and I also think that anyone who disagrees with this statement is a racist. There is not a color or race attached to the word "racist". If you dislike someone because of the color of their skin or their race, then you are racist.
I agree with what you are saying but you are not doing any cause any favor. RACISM: "the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another." You're saying that ALL white people believe they are superior to blacks. Am I correct?
Saying "All lives matter" is NOT racist, it is the simple Truth. I'll consider supporting BLM when young Negro males stop slaughtering each other over drugs and minor ego-bending insults. Their behaviour supports the 85 IQ conclusions of Chapter 8 of "The Bell Curve" and over 100 years of military IQ testing.
All lives matter its 2020 not 1930 for Christ sakes slaveries ended enough of this racial bullshit now alright The Creator put Humans here on Earth to battle it out and humans are bickerin' it in there little hissie fits over the years huh., This Pandemic hasn't solved the racial divide than nothing will people now come on humans the human race is the best race here on earth yet its to busy fightin' over minute little piddly arsed stuff to be fret over which colour of a human or which language is best to speak now your all humans now the best race on EARTH now stop fightin' over this minute crap ok this world has bigger issues to worry about now alrght.
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How's it racist to say a phrase that's inclusive of everyone? I don't see any of this alleged white supremacy you speak of, at least not on a large scale. The fact that white societies are more prosperous is not our fault. If white people are truly to blame, then how do you explain the fact that nations that are almost exclusively black, have such poor quality of life. Nothing will change until you start taking responsibility for your own situation. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such disgusting factually inaccurate comments.
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I think the statement in your picture is selfish. The world doesn't revolve around black people. And black people aren't the most important people on earth.
Black lives do matter. I understand what your saying. There is no reason to say white lives matter because they always matter. I don't think people saying all lives matter completely understand this therefore they aren't being racist by saying all lives matter
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I disagree with you at full blast because you black folks aren't the the only ones having it bad at the moment. regardless you should thankful that you're not a slave like your ancestors were.
"Black men are being killed at a rate 3x higher than white men."
by who? by other black men and abortion?
cause those are the two leading cause of death to the black race. if you black lives matters individuals really did care about black folks you would all be protesting abortion clinics and preaching blacks in the hood to stop committing drive by and other violence.
@update
"We need the first fully black president. We need more black owned businesses. We need more black everything."
you can have all of that once you all start doing more work and studying and less bitching
All Lives Matter is not racist just because you think it is. There is nothing racist about saying everyone matters, That makes no sense.
I understand what you are saying. Obviously, all lives don't matter if black lives don't matter, but that goes for the rest as well. Black lives have always mattered. Just because there are cruel people in this world doesn't mean they don't. Blacks are a great contributor to blacks being killed at a higher rate because they kill each other, a lot. This country isn't anti-black, but I know that does not mean there are no white supremist, being that our former president used every opportunity to insult every other race but his own.
Saying "Black lives matter" creates an exclusion of white people.
This only turns the situation in the opposite direction.
The problem is not a racial one, it is one of justice and corruption. The fact that the police do not treat all people equally, both white and black, is a serious mistake of the American justice system.
The law must be applied equally, if a black person needs to be beaten in order to be arrested, the same must be done with whites. If the justice system arrests innocent people, in which there are more black people, it is the fault of the government and leadership system.
As far as I know, both black and white people have the same rights in the United States today.
All lives matter. Period and Amen. Males and females, He created them in His own image. God made ONE race - the human race. And, God saw that it was good.
If you don't believe we are all of the human race with varying degrees of "tannish-ness", then you will find that blacks are the worst enemy of other blacks, not whites, and not the police. Educate yourselves.
If that's the case then stand up for other social issues as well if you want all the support without being hated or something. I don't see BLM protesters standing up for anything other than black people.
So to elaborate my point, you can try to rationally help other opressed or any social group which society thinks need real help (like poor homeless people). Then it might be easy to surpass the image BLM protesters have made in front of the whole world. You really need to get rid of that fake support as well.
While I'm an ardent and unapologetic supporter of Black Lives Matter, I can't say the phrase "all lives matter" is racist. Its like saying "all cancers matter" in a Breast Cancer Awareness event is somehow anti-cancer, when in fact it isn't. Sure it is unnecessary and "all cancers matter" people are missing the point, but that doesn't make them anti-cancer.
It makes them ignorant to say all cancers matter. There’s a very strong correlation between ignorance and racism. People who say those things don’t automatically put them in the same league as the KKK. But they’re not far off.
Can’t compare cancer to BLM. Doesn’t make sense. All I’m saying is that all lives can’t matter until Black Lives Matter.
What criticisms do you have of your racial community? ↗
@dawsonnata what does that have to do with anything?
It's not cancer though, it's race. The point of all lives matter is to stop grouping people and making decisions based on race. So what if the analogy was a black breast cancer event and the protest crowd is saying "all cancers matter". That's a better reflection of what is happening. They're saying how about we just treat cancer and not separate people based on superficial characteristics. And it should probably be thyroid cancer as a rare and a relatively high survival rate to better suit the analogy.
Are racial separatists racists? Because you could apply your version of the cancer analogy there too.
@AllThatSweetJazz I agree, but all of that is besides the point. The question is are "All lives matter" people racists? My answer to that is no they aren't racists, but I do beleve they are misunderstanding the entire point of Black Lives Matter. I know well intentioned people who say "All Lives Matter" and there are a ton of those in Houston. They aren't saying that because of some racist belief.
Loll okay sorry after reading all these comments I'm afraid every single person on this comment thread misunderstood my analogy either completely or in parts. So I'll just reword it loll:
While I'm an ardent and unapologetic supporter of Black Lives Matter, I can't say the phrase "all lives matter" is racist. Its like saying "All cancers need to be eliminated" in a Breast Cancer Awareness event is somehow anti-cancer. Saying "All cancers need to be eliminated" by DEFAULT isn't an anti-cancer statement. It would be nice to eliminate ALL cancers, but saying that in a Breast Cancer Awareness event is diminishing the importance of Breast cancer. This, however, doesn't make the slogan "anti-cancer" even though it is diminishing the importance of a certain awareness.
Now to link this analogy with race since everyone here misunderstood that part. Black Lives Matter is about raising awareness for the brutality Black people are facing in the hands of our justice system and law enforcement officials. Now saying "All Lives Matter" in a Black Lives Matter protest IS problematic since its trying to diminish the importance of Black awareness BUT that doesn't make the statement racist. Someone can say "Asian Lives Matter", does that make them racist? Does my life not matter? Of course it does, but that slogan is counterproductive to the Black Lives Matter protest. This, however, doesn't make the slogan "All Lives Matter" or "Asian Lives Matter" racist even though it is diminishing the importance of a certain awareness.
Wherever I said "anti-cancer" replace it with "anti-Breast cancer awareness" and there you have it.
Okay so maybe I used to many words. Most people don’t think it’s racist. But it’s borderline racist, and disrespectful. If you said “all cancers need to be eliminated” during breast cancer awareness, people would ask, “do you have an issue with women?” Because in what logic would you have to diminish someone else’s movement.
Yeah its so my mistake loll when I said "anti-cancer" I meant "anti-cancer awareness" which I know COMPLETLEY changes the meaning but yeah loll God I wish there was an edit button so I didn't need to write in edits afterwards in such an embarrassing way 😂
Shit I used even more words in my statement this time. Not what I meant to do.
“They aren't saying that because of some racist belief.”
I totally got the analogy and I’m agreeing with the part where they're not racist.
My response was outside of the bound of the Asker’s question true, but it was more a commentary on your analogy and the circumstance it attempts to describe. My point being that not only do they not say they because of some racist belief, they say it because they are opposed to racism and furthermore are commenting on something real – they aren’t “missing the point at all”, they’re nailing it. But if you’re saying you’re in agreement with all that, then cool.
First off saying all lives matter isn't bad because first off black people to me need to realize there own worth and value to themselves not just to others. 2nd black own things aren't gonna help the black community if all these black men keep going to jail for major crimes. 3rd i don't believe all lives matter was solely base on racism and the fact that BLM just came around when it did. However i do believe that some do have that opinion and those guys are pieces of shit. As for the black president, we already had that, if you want black people to start doing better than you need to tell them or show them that the path of crime isn't worth it, because that's where a majority of black people go and is it there fault, some what yes and some what no. I personally blame the parents but yea
That poll result gives me hope. All lives is inclusive Black lives excludes others and why is it as a black man is it that when a black person kills another black person there are no marches? (There was a kid killed in Georgia and police officer killed during the so called protests) or when a black person kills another race?
Last thing - The Black Lives Matter organization website uses black men and male teens like Trayvon Martin but before they edited their goals and mission statement you could not find the word father there but you could find mother. They want to disrupt the nuclear family and as a dude why would i support something that wants to eradicate me I am not that much of a sheep.
I saw a video clip on tv, taken at some event in New York. Some female politician was talking on stage and she made the mistake of saying "... actually, every life matters". She was booed off stage. What I looked at that huge crowd, it reminded me of a klan rally. There is zero difference. If you look up the word, "racist" there is not a color attached to it. It does not mean "being discriminating against black people". If you hate another race you are racist. Period.
First, black people deaths are mostly from black people. Second, there is no white supremacy anymore, it's not 18th century. US even had black president. Third, all lives matter means that there is a line of respect for all races, and if any race gets below the line, we should help it back up again. You said only blacks are treated bad, this saying is racist and supremacist actually. You became the one you were afraid from. I believe you are from the US, so what about the native Americans? Minority that matter less than you? Come on!
As for your update, it cannot be like that in the US from a simple answer, there are less African American than whites, so statistically there are going to be more white things than African American overall.
By definition it is raceless. It doesn't specify any race but equally states the value of Human life. That being said, it misses the point, but so does blm. What we should be saying is Black Families Matter. Because it is true and why so many black people are dying and suffering. From the abortion of Black Children. The slaughtering of Black Children by Street Thugs. This all goes back to the black household which is 70% single Mother. The lack of Black Fathers in the Home is destroying Black families. A child raised in a single mother household regardless of race is more likely to drop out of school, do drugs, become a prostitute or other criminal, become physically unhealthy, become homeless, get killed, and will start more single mother house holds. Black Families Matter, marriage matters.
No. Because racism is a procedural fault, not a fault in outcome.
Choosing your procedure to include considerations of race is racism, regardless of outcome.
Removing racial considerations from your procedure is the absence of racism, regardless of outcome.
And we can *know* that it's all about race because of the obvious neglect of other threads of identity. That is to say people who defend BLM make it about BLACK men, instead of black MEN. If we want to engage in the silly numbers games that BLM's defenders like to say, then the through-line of MEN is the greater axis of discrimination than BLACK. Yet we don't hear the chants saying male lives matter. So it really reeks of racism when the numbers only matter when it comes to race.
The least racist interpretation of Black Lives Matter is when it is spoken from a place of ignorance.
Also, besides all that, they're not even the highest represented in the data anyway. So there's just numerous problems with it.
Well over 90% of black men are killed by other blacks (vast majority of them black men). Claims of systemic racism against blacks are delusional. As is this "imaginary white supremacy". And leftists control all institutions in the US, so you're accusing them of "systemic racism" and "white supremacy".
And here's some systemic racism:
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Personally, I believe that every human being was born into this world equal, regardless for their color or race. It is what you do with your life that changes your worth, one way or another. I believe that every life matters and I also think that anyone who disagrees with this statement is a racist. There is not a color or race attached to the word "racist". If you dislike someone because of the color of their skin or their race, then you are racist.
I agree with what you are saying but you are not doing any cause any favor.
RACISM: "the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another." You're saying that ALL white people believe they are superior to blacks. Am I correct?
Saying "All lives matter" is NOT racist, it is the simple Truth.
I'll consider supporting BLM when young Negro males stop slaughtering each other over drugs and minor ego-bending insults. Their behaviour supports the 85 IQ conclusions of Chapter 8 of "The Bell Curve" and over 100 years of military IQ testing.
All lives matter its 2020 not 1930 for Christ sakes slaveries ended enough of this racial bullshit now alright The Creator put Humans here on Earth to battle it out and humans are bickerin' it in there little hissie fits over the years huh., This Pandemic hasn't solved the racial divide than nothing will people now come on humans the human race is the best race here on earth yet its to busy fightin' over minute little piddly arsed stuff to be fret over which colour of a human or which language is best to speak now your all humans now the best race on EARTH now stop fightin' over this minute crap ok this world has bigger issues to worry about now alrght.
How's it racist to say a phrase that's inclusive of everyone?
I don't see any of this alleged white supremacy you speak of, at least not on a large scale. The fact that white societies are more prosperous is not our fault. If white people are truly to blame, then how do you explain the fact that nations that are almost exclusively black, have such poor quality of life.
Nothing will change until you start taking responsibility for your own situation.
You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such disgusting factually inaccurate comments.
I think the statement in your picture is selfish. The world doesn't revolve around black people. And black people aren't the most important people on earth.
Black lives do matter. I understand what your saying. There is no reason to say white lives matter because they always matter.
I don't think people saying all lives matter completely understand this therefore they aren't being racist by saying all lives matter
Yeah right.