Is it racist to say “All Lives Matter”?

[DrAdams]

Yes

No

[wolfcat87]

Yes, because it's like someone trying to teach about blacks suffering during slavery or Jim Crow and trying to make every lesson about how whites suffered equally. Just forget the blacks and all of their history because "all lives matter" and the fact that they were murdered, raped, tortured, and treated horrifically for hundreds of years in a way white people were not. But, they didn't. It's intentionally drowning out the suffering past and present of a persecuted minority just to avoid dealing with the issues. That's inherently racist, because it's still disproportionately ignoring that minority and enabling racism to continue.

Oh wait, those same people did push for minority history in the U. S. to not be taught in schools... I thought all lives mattered? Wait, they still don't? Nope. Those same people want to shoot Mexicans at the border and keep out non whites.

"In Florida, new standards require teachers to say that enslaved people may have benefited from skills learned in slavery, and the state banned the Advanced Placement class on African American history after determining it “lacks educational value.” Texas has banned the teaching of critical race theory, and nationwide, ... Sep 9, 2023"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/09/09/black-history-education-schools/

You have to be racist to side with a bunch of racists trying to keep minorities suppressed and suffering instead of actually making a country where all lives actually do matter...

So, here's a comparable question in the other direction. If I see a white person being beaten and mistreated by a group of minorities because of their skin color, and the victim is screaming, "Doesn't my life matter? Just because I'm white doesn't mean it doesn't matter! Please, help me!" And, my response is to go, "What's wrong with you? Don't you know all lives matter?" and walk away leaving them to die, am I not enabling racism to continue, ignoring the injustice and inequality, refusing to help someone I can see is in danger and hurting, and therefore actively and voluntarily participating in a racist system that harms others? Yes, and that makes me racist. There's no difference.

[Kelly6]

@wolfcat87
why does the word race always pull slavery?
every race had issues in past.
some died in wars, and more.
so every race is important

[wolfcat87]

@Kelly6 Every race did not suffer equally in our country. Every race did not die equally in our country. Every race is not killed, targeted, and held back in our country equally to this very day. We can't even be taught about our own people in schools. That's equality, right? This country was build on the backs of hundreds of millions of us, and we aren't even allowed to learn or be taught about our own history. So, is every race treated as important here? NO. Never have been and never will be until people acknowledge the issue and actively work to fix the problems inherent in a racist system and a racist society.

[Kelly6]

@wolfcat87
but why are you only talking about your country?

[Kelly6]

@wolfcat87
race has no country.
why people in your country only think there is 1 country in world and 2 races? hehe

[wolfcat87]

@Kelly6 Because this saying is from my country and has to do with racism in my country. It's not about other countries.

[Kelly6]

@wolfcat87
if its only about usa then maybe.

i said all that because when i was there i saw a small protest of BLM, where a chinese guy started asking.
What my life doesn't matter lol

[wolfcat87]

@Kelly6 Chinese are not very discriminated against in the U. S. They are treated nearly as well as white people. Blacks, Natives, and Hispanics are treated the worst. Chinese are not singled out by police, beaten to death or shot on the streets for their skin color as often, and there are no laws meant to target them and imprison them. Chinese do have some issues, but they are minor and easy to work around.

My state treats Natives as badly as southern states treat blacks and Mexicans. They won't teach Native history here at all until the college level, and they had to get a law passed to force it to be taught at a college level. One whole class is all they get. Native Literature.

[wolfcat87]

@Kelly6
Evey lower grade gets to learn about how natives were rightfully suppressed and slaughtered by the U. S. hero General Custer at the battle of Little Big Horn to protect the poor innocent settlers who just wanted to live here in peace... Which is untrue. So, why is it okay to misrepresent the people this state belonged to only a few generations ago while applauding the people who murdered them as heros? What about the Native heros who tried to protect their people? What about the children stolen by the state until the mid 1900's? Natives weren't allowed to raise their own children. They were stolen, raped, murdered, and beaten until they denied being Native anymore. The few kids who made it home could not even speak the same language as their families anymore, because it was beaten out of them. Now, they have to be taught that their people were savages who needed to be killed for the "innocent people" to take their lands, and their parents deserved to be sent to those schools and lose their families. It's painful to watch.

Our jails are full of Natives. Locals don't even see them as really from our own state. A "proud 5th generation Montanan" from a good and decent settler heritage is a "true Montanan", and Natives are seen as trash that don't belong.

BLM was inclusive to anyone who wanted to join the movement to make this country better for everyone. There were members of every ethnicity. Holding police accountable for their behavior would have benefited everyone. But, that movement was crushed, and in retaliation a racist president who increased racial tensions in the U. S. was elected. That sent a message to minorities across the country that half the country is likely against them. Just a ridiculous mess.

I know it's a whole rant, I just get sad watching how bad things are. We could be doing so much better as a nation. I can't speak for other countries. They all have their own dynamics.

[Kelly6]

@wolfcat87
you are saying al lives matter?

[Kelly6]

@wolfcat87
i live in Spain so I don't know,
i was only talking about international point

[wolfcat87]

@Kelly6 Sigh, the issue is the saying "All lives matter" is meant to directly maintain a system in the U. S. where all lives don't matter. While the Black Lives Matter activist movement was started to actually create a system where all lives do matter. Does that make sense? The meaning behind the words is deeper than what they seem at first glance. If our country treated everyone equally, then saying all lives matter would have no extra meaning.

[wolfcat87]

@Kelly6 Oh yeah, things are very different over there. My second husband is from right next door in Portugal. There were no real racism issues in Portugal, so the saying would not be bad if someone from your area or his came up with it with no connection to the saying in the U. S.

[Kelly6]

@wolfcat87
exactly, our culture is veery different

[ObscuredBeyond]

The globalist elitists are trying to suppress EVERYONE who isn't them! Stop thinking it's all about you! Was the murder of Tony Timpa somehow unimportant, while the fentanyl poison death of George Floyd somehow cause for burning cities to the ground? Who has the privilege today?

How do you use racial preference to end racial preference? YOU DON'T! You're a sucker if you believe that ever works! Justice is that the vice of the past is stopped, never to be repeated. It is NEVER "let's flip the hourglass for an indefinite time period regarding which group does X to the other."

That's the same crime, and proof that you're no better than those who came before, except driven by envy rather than solely by narcissistic arrogance.

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond Have a nice day justifying racism and making the disproportionately higher suffering of minorities all about you. Super gross

[ObscuredBeyond]

@wolfcat87: I literally said it has no business happening either way. Which is the definition of equality under the law. Use your brain.

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond If you read everything I wrote, you'd see my brain has been well used. What has your yelling about "equality" to drown out people actually trying to create equality done to actually acknowledge and fix the suffering of minorities to give them the equality you pretend to care about? Nothing. Meaning you actually don't care about equality. Pointing out the issues just the first step to fixing them and actually supporting equality in practice. They are pointing out the issues and working to fix them, and you are against the people trying to actually fix anything. Making you part of the problem and not any solution...

[ObscuredBeyond]

Seeking out revenge against past generations by punishing present generations isn't equality. It's (very) misguided vengeance.

And All Lives Matter does NOT perpetuate the "No Lives Matter" status quo. It states that you don't get to exclude anyone. The BLM radicals were using the idea of "mattering" as carte blanche to interfere in elections and commit arson, with the implication that *ONLY* "black" lives "mattered."

However, they betrayed this by burning down businesses that had black owners. Which means race was all a diversion. The real target was anyone trying to earn an honest living. To the glorification of thieves.

Race was the big red herring thrown in your face. The real goal was the complete satanic inversion of all law and order: anarcho-tyranny. Those trying to make an honest living a punished for not accepting brutalitarian subjugation under the various isms of the servants to the Dark Thrones, Satan's colonizer angels. Criminals who used their criminality to punish they who didn't conform to the whims of the Dark Thrones, however, were granted carte blanche for their crimes.

Increasingly, the envious use "white supremacy" as code for self-sufficiency, the thing they truly are at war with.

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond What the actual fudge? How does advocating for equal rights amount to "punishing" anyone in your mind? That's insane.

The rest of what you're saying was seen through the lense of the same biased filter you started with. Do you honestly think EVERY BLM supporter rioted? Obviously not. Not even a majority. That would be like claiming all conservative whites stormed the capital just because a few did... You sound that silly.

All Lives Matter was invented to specifically drown out the suffering of minorities like your rant right now is still doing.

So, considering the fact that your racist rhetoric completely chose to ignore the simple question asked of you, I will ask it again.

"What has your yelling about "equality" to drown out people actually trying to create equality done to actually acknowledge and fix the suffering of minorities to give them the equality you pretend to care about? Nothing. Meaning you actually don't care about equality. Pointing out the issues just the first step to fixing them and actually supporting equality in practice. They are pointing out the issues and working to fix them, and you are against the people trying to actually fix anything. Making you part of the problem and not any solution... "

What have YOU actually done to fix the widely documented and recognized mass racial inequality in the U. S?

I would bet money that you've done little to nothing, because you are racist and do not support equality. You just want to point fingers and shift the blame while still supporting racism. Now, that's satanic.

[JacobJordan]

White people were enslaved long before black people ever were. Historically and factually speaking actually white people were among the first people enslaved. Anywho.

[ObscuredBeyond]

How am I supporting racism by pointing out how it's often falsely attributed to things by con artists as a distraction so others will look the other way when they commit real crimes in the present day? That makes zero sense.

Me, yelling? Which issues? Can you give a concrete example? My concrete example was both white and black business owners in Kenosha suffering from arson attacks due to bused in rioters. How politicians defended the rioters. How victims who were burned alive in their homes were mocked, and told "should've had better insurance."

I don't care what skin color the victim is. When that is done, and those responsible for bringing down the mallet of the law on the faces of those who do such things are instead in bed with them, and leaving the victims with no one who will stand up for them, then that's grounds for the rot to be removed from office, tarred and feathered, crushed under a steamroller, and new leadership installed that will hunt down the sickos responsible for these atrocities, and who will put them under a steamroller as well!

And when it's done to influence an election, as was the case with that no-good Evers in Wisconsin, then that level of malfeasance deserves that his noose be marinated in fire ant venom. He released pedophiles from prison so they could partake in the destruction of Kenosha!

And then to try to cynically distract everyone with "well, black America..."

[ObscuredBeyond]

Yeah... being said by the same idiots who elected Bill Clinton, who previously passed the most anti-black legislation since Jim Crow! Because we can totally trust that same racket to suddenly give a diddle about Black America today, right?

Every time political "parties" and rackets are made the answer to injustices, they don't undo the continuation of injustice. They merely flip the hourglass. They cut a hole in one pair of jeans to patch the whole in the previous pair. It becomes a never-ending game of stealing and patching.

It's not racist to expose the game. The game created a lot of the racism. And is keeping it going, by convincing the masses that flipping the hourglass ONE MORE TIME will magically fix everything, when that has never worked the last 5,000 times it was tried.

The definition of insanity.

[ObscuredBeyond]

@JacobJordan : Wolfcat is too dense to process that.

[ObscuredBeyond]

@wolfcat87:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e78P4GGKYw

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan Whites were never enslaved or discriminated against on the level of blacks and natives. My white ancestors were certainly never enslaved or discriminated against. White slaves int he U. S. often volunteered and signed contracts. That's not the same as being kidnapped.

There's no evidence that white people were the first enslaved, but if you'd like to play that game whites were doing most of the enslaving of whites. That's not racism now is it? Nor is it anywhere near a modern problem.

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond There's no evidence of your claim that racism is falsely attributed to anything. Hundreds of studies show otherwise. Everything from black children being punished more harshly for the same behaviors as white children, the criminal system giving harsher sentencing based on skin color, jobs refusing to hire anyone with a black sounding name even when all other qualifications are equal, refusal to promote qualified black employees, police being much more violent with black people vs white for similar behaviors, black people being shot on the streets or even int heir own yards while unarmed and not breaking the law, passing laws to ban teaching of black history while making all history books taught in the U. S. focus only on whites, red lining black neighborhoods, refusal to accurately appraise black homes, refusal to approve loans to black families with the same qualifications as white, etc. There's no end to the FACTS that have been shown to prove that blacks have never stopped being discriminated against. Mexicans and Natives as well.

[ObscuredBeyond]

You falsely attributed it to me. Then I told you about the Kenosha thing. You also ignore how the Irish were treated throughout history. Racial bias, much?

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond Again, I pointed out multiple discrimination issues in America and you have ignored them. Racism. You cannot ignore proven racism in the U. S. It's too well documented and has been proven beyond a doubt constantly. The fact that you refuse to even look at it proves that you support it.

How old do you think I am? I wasn't even old enough to vote during Clinton. Durrr. Most of us weren't since Clinton was when I was in elementary school and I'm already middle aged...

I do agree that no one is undoing the systemic racism, and that's a problem BLM originally tried to point out. The entire effort was ignored and highjacked. While I never approved of the name, I did approve of the original intent.

So, Mr. Too Dense to stay on topic and have an intellectual conversation, let's go back to the original question you keep attempting to red herring... For the THIRD time, what are YOU doing to stop racism? I still see you giving not a single answer.

All these paragraphs and insults while avoiding what you are doing to promote the equality you lie and pretend to care about. What have you done to stop the active racism that can be easily proven by looking at many previous examples listed that have hard evidence that cannot be denied? Feel free to take a few to look up published scientific studies showing mountains of evidence.

[ObscuredBeyond]

@wolfcat87: "Whites were never enslaved or discriminated against on the level of blacks and natives."

The word "slave" was we use it today literally derives from the enslavement of the SLAVICS! By the Islamic world! Basic etymology is not on your side on this one.

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond The English word for slave is derived from that. Do you think other countries and cultures don't have their own words for slaves with their own origins? That's so euro-centric and laughably ignorant!

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond Slavery was institutionalized by the time the first civilizations emerged (such as Sumer in Mesopotamia, which dates back as far as 3500 BC). Slavery features in the Mesopotamian Code of Hammurabi (c. 1750 BC), which refers to it as an established institution. Slavery predates written history.

[ObscuredBeyond]

Missing the point. Why is English deriving "slave" from "Slav"? Because the number of blonde Slavic women that were trafficked by the Arab world far outweighs even black slavery. Depraved a-holes that enslave others come from everywhere. Always have.

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond Feel free to prove that claim with actual evidence. Considering there weren't that many blonde Slavic women historically or even today after the population had boomed...

[ObscuredBeyond]

"Waaaaahhh!!! Waaaaaaah!!!" That's all I hear.

Meanwhile, what's your solution so we can abolish the Federal Reserve, abolish rogue judges that were appointed by Obama, abolish others perverting justice, abolish the ATF, abolish the corrupt FBI, abolish the war profiteers, and abolish the Patriot Act?

Because those are real issues happening today, that are creating a LOT more problems, and leading to the oppression of EVERYONE not of an elite tier.

This isn't black and white, hun. It's the higher echelon criminal elitists versus EVERYONE ELSE! The servants of the Dark Thrones versus the peasant classes of everywhere. The fact that you only ever see skin color, suggests you're the racist.

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond So, to write a summary of everything you've written.

You are pro racism and against actually creating equality.

You do nothing to stop racism or inequality and everything to attack anyone who cares about fixing either. Racist

You know there are no facts backing the mindless drivel you spout which is why you continue to rant and resort to logical fallacies instead of providing any facts to back your racist rants.

Someone lives in a world of paranoid delusion where anyone who has money or supports equality are the real issues in life...

Also, you cannot follow a conversation since the very topic is based on racism... Not intelligent or sane.

[iFarted]

I can only speak on my area of the US which is in the Bay Area, CA. There is racism all over to a certain extent but it's not that bad out here anymore.. The truth is these days its even flipped to the point that there is "black privilege" An above average student would be accepted into a university over an academically high achieving Asian student. A good black employee is more likely to get a promotion than a better producing Asian as well..
The past was indeed dark and unequal and we shouldn't forget it but we can't always bring up the past into modern day.

[wolfcat87]

@iFarted Affirmative action is a pro-active effort to correct many long standing inequalities in the work place. Even that has not evened things out when you look at statistics on earnings and promotions. A black person is more likely to get a low level job now but not a high level one. Black inner city schools provide much worse educations compared to schools with more whites or Asians, and the same colleges often have programs for anyone from under privileged backgrounds.

The problems are not in the past according to modern studies. Past problems also carry over into the present when parents were less able to work or gain finances and a decent education. They cannot give their children the same boost people who had those options could. Even on a genetic level it's been proven that stressors can leave marks on DNA that carry over into later generations and increase anxiety issues and such.

Things were actually improving before Trump, but racism turn a drastic leap for the worse while he was in office. Things I didn't have to hear since I was a child became more prominent again. The past few years it's been trying to die down in my area, but some areas are much more racially charged and always have been like the south. Last I checked, racism never improved in places like Texas, Florida, Georgia, etc.

[JacobJordan]

And blacks enslaved black people. You think what is happening in America is racism? It isn't sweetie. Go to Africa and travel to some of the villages currently experiencing true racism where they are raped, butchered, strung up, beheaded, massacred etc for no other reason than being a slightly different shade of black. Your woeful ignorance as to the true nature of racism is unbelievable.

If you are an American you have the exact same privileges as everyone else. You are given the exact same opportunities in fact if (given your excitement to debate this point) I am correct, you are mixed (don't know the correct term for black and white parent), you are afforded extra rights and privileges because 1 you are a woman and 2 you aren't white which means you benefit from affirmative action something white people do not have. Not to mention the civil rights act has made it impossible for jobs to not hire you on the basis of skin color. (Some still do obviously but we have seen the legal outcomes of that) as for your dismissal of "I've never seen white people enslaved etc etc" and your secondary "they were not treated as badly as blacks" first point I'll address a simple historical view will enlighten you to white people having been enslaved meaning that denying it happened is futile. I am a descendant of a family of white people that were enslaved by non white people. It has no effect on my life.

Part 1/2

[JacobJordan]

Part 2/3

As for the they weren't treated as badly as blacks. You are absolutely right white people were treated worse. One need only look at the treatment of whites in the concentration camps during ww2... or did you forget that most of the victims of ww2 were Jewish and white? So factually speaking white people have been treated worse than any other race ever will be and yet white people aren't burning and looting everything claiming "white lives matter" I also am a descendant of what remains of a decimated Jewish family after they fled.

Lastly "no evidence of white people the first enslaved" I encourage you to spend some time learning about Mesopotamia and Sumer. Skin tones during that Era ranged from white to brown. And slavery is well documented at that time so factually once again white people were enslaved first.

[JacobJordan]

Part 3/3 thought it would fit on 2 lol.

To summarize you have claimed that blacks were enslaved first I have proved that wrong with factual and historical evidence. Second you have claimed white people were not treated as badly as blacks. I have proved you wrong again with factual historical evidence. 2 massive moments of history that are not only well documented but have been studied for long than most of us have been alive prove that you're wrong. As far as the slavery in the US the vast majority of the slaves were kidnapped by... other black people because at that time Africa was little more than squabbling tribes so they utilized the European ships as a way to eliminate enemy factions by capturing them and giving them to the Europeans. So I pose this question to you. If black people treat each other horribly... lock them up, enslave them, etc why would any explorer regardless of color not assume that they should follow suit? Or better question why would they not follow suit when even that person own countryman treat them horribly?

Lastly I sincerely urge you to visit Africa and witness firsthand the events I described above and then come back and tell us if you think THAT is racism or if you think what is happening in the states is racism. I hope you read all of this because I am not entirely disagreeing with you I am merely correcting some of the inaccuracies you are presenting.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan You're joking right? Just because you've never been attacked and beaten based on YOUR skin color doesn't mean millions of us are not experiencing racism and attacks. I cannot imagine being that willfully ignorant when you have the internet at your fingertips with thousands of studies on racism in America... Just because you choose to be biased and ignore the facts doesn't change the facts.

Are you really using the excuse that because someone else "did it" that makes the entire trans-Atlantic slave trade with millions dead okay? No. The only people who committed such atrocities en masse were Europeans. Half of the slaves shipped across the ocean never made it, and the average life span for a newly imported black slave was only 5 years.

White slaves were not treated that badly in the states, and blacks certainly never caused that amount of death to any slaves they took in. They considered them to be servants or lesser family much like serfs in Europe. The atrocities Europeans committed on others was directly related to their racist ideals and the idea that blacks and other minorities were only animals. Therefore, they felt that any amount of torture and murder was justified against them as non-humans.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan "some of the villages" "raped, butchered, strung up, beheaded, massacred etc for no other reason than being a slightly different shade of black."

You're comparing what happens in "some villages" to what happens in a country of 350 million people?

"The 2022 hate crimes data, submitted by 14,631 law enforcement agencies, provide information about the offenses, victims, offenders, and locations of hate crimes. Of these agencies who submitted incident reports, there were 11,634 hate crime incidents involving 13,337 offenses."

Those are just the reported crimes, since most minorities don't bother reporting to the legal system.

"There's 200,000 to 300,000 hate crime incidents in a given year and the FBI data records less than 10,000 of them," says Eaven Holder, who authored a peer-reviewed study examining 18 years between the two data sets. "Estimates from the National Crime Victimization Survey suggests that 40 to 50% of all hate crimes go unreported to police."

www.npr.org/.../researchers-say-the-fbis-statistics-on-hate-crimes-across-the-country-are-flawed

First, you are correct, I am mixed.

Second, anyone can benefit from affirmative action by marking a minority on their application. It's entirely optional.

Third, as a mixed person I'm in a prime position to see and understand privilege based on skin color. I have some degree of white privilege. At the same time, I get the shit end of the stick from everyone.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan No, I did not get the same opportunities as a mixed person when compared to white people. "Impossible" is a word you need to look up in the dictionary. The Civil Rights Act did not stop most discrimination.

An employer cannot tell you they are not hiring you based on skin color. As long as they don't say it, they can discriminate. A massive study showed that (as I've already mentioned) employers will discard applications with black sounding names even when the candidate is equally qualified for the job. Affirmative action clearly does nothing to prevent this.

fortune.com/.../

Landlords are the same, they can choose not to rent to people who are black as long as they do not say that is the reason why. I've seen them do the same with Hispanics in California.

Next, women are a discriminated against class in the U. S. We are not advantaged. There are thousands of studies proving that as well. In my case, the only time I wasn't hired on the spot in my life was when I was visibly pregnant. 13 job interviews and no luck until one of the managers who I'd worked for pulled me aside and said it was specifically because I was pregnant and due during everyone's busy season. She informed me of my legal rights and how to trick the next people in a completely legal way. She said hide my belly, interview, get hired, and then I can inform them after. They could not fire me at that point without risking a lawsuit. I did exactly that and was hired on the spot at my next job interview.

And, before you try to use that as a "well you got hired", I don't have a black sounding name. Most people struggle to identify my heritage depending on how I dress and style my hair and makeup. All benefits many blacks in America cannot use. My (white) father and our roommate were also highly paid managers at a national corporation who trained me on exactly what to say and do in applications and interviews.

[Kelly6]

@wolfcat87
what is currently happening in Gaza, is it hate crime?

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan On top of that, I ended up in a school district in Florida where we had to be bussed 45 minutes away due to our school closing because the school system was found to be in violation of anti-segregation laws. This was in 1999!

All the Civil Rights Act did was ding people for discriminating in an obvious and easily proven way.

As for you misquoting me, I never said I'd never seen white people enslaved... If you are going to have a conversation, at least pay attention to what's actually said. I clearly acknowledged white slavery in the U. S. and Europe.

Did you really just compare the mass genocide of the Jews (by fellow Whites) over a decade to over 200 years of mass enslavement of generations of blacks? Not sure how that even adds up in your mind... Far more blacks have suffered under whites than Jews. Not that it's a competition. Jews also had the ability to leave and attempt to hide their heritage. Again, more OPTIONS blacks weren't given. Not only were we shipped here and enslaved, our homelands were also turned into colonies and robbed... On top of all of that Jews are highly discriminatory. They won't even accept that someone is a Jew by DNA. Their mother had to be a Jew. I know this since my daughter is a quarter Ashkenazi, and her father is half. Both are rejected by Jews to this day based on maternal heritage. Even being the wrong type of Jew in Israel will keep a Jew from being a recognized citizen.

[JacobJordan]

Women are among the most privileged people in America lol the idea that women are not is absurd. Women have more rights than anyone. And sorry to burst your bubble but you do in fact have the exact same opportunities as everyone else in fact you have more. Whether or not you are given those opportunities does not change the fact you have them. Also it is the religious regulations of Jewish people that it is passed down via the mother has always been that way. That is not discrimination. I see you have once again ignored and attempted to misdirect the atrocities commited against white people simply because it done by other white people. Well that is fine because guess what black people murder black people 91% of the time in addition black or black violence rate is multitudes higher than white on black or white on white crime rates. Sources. Ojp. gov ucr. fbi. gov

As an aside sorry to burst your bubble but you as a woman and a woman of color have far more privileges and rights than literally anyone else in America except maybe white women. Over half of those receiving numerous types of government assistance ssi, snap, tanf, rental assistance etc are black in addition around 20% of women of color receive all of their income off welfare. Sources: nap:nationalacademics. org and census. gov.

You ever hear the phrase those with privilege can't recognize it. Yeah that is you. As for your not being hired due to being pregnant that is a businesses right to not hire you if you will then have to go on maternity leave shortly thereafter. I have numerous staff that are women and numerous staff that are men. I hire qualified people regardless of circumstance. Once again black people shipped there own people out. I already addressed that point. That was black on black.
So now that I have provided more factual sources what do you intend to do? Ignore and disregard those as well? Or realize that white on black crime is not even a 10% stat margin.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan I'm well aware of where Mesopotamia and Sumer were located. The Middle East is not considered "white". Its people are their own separate ethnicity, and it the region where Africa, Europe, and Asia all come together. Meaning it's reflective of all 3. The quote I wrote specifically states that slavery predated those earliest written records and had already been well established before it was ever recorded. Meaning it's a prehistoric part of humanity. As written records arose around the world, slavery was also noted in those areas.

Where did I say blacks were enslaved first? I stated that no other ethnicity was enslaved as long, as cruelly, or on the same massive scale as Blacks. Natives would have been had they not been killed off.

You also never proved that enslaved whites were enslaved as long, as cruelly, and on the same massive scale as Blacks. This never happened since whites were afforded HUMAN rights, and blacks were afforded ANIMAL rights as we were considered livestock.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan I've provided many facts and multiple links proving exactly what I've been saying. What historians, government institutions, and studies agree with your points?

You are correct in saying blacks sold blacks. At the same time, none of those blacks knew what European slavery or the Trans-Atlantic slave trade consisted of. African slavery was incomparable. Much like European on European slavery, they considered slaves servants and still human. No one who did not witness the treatment of slaves in America would have known what it was like.

Now, feel free to look up the atrocities Whites committed on black slaves; cutting off fingers, cutting ankle tendons, inventing whips designed to rip flesh from bone and beating them regularly with them, working them until most died within 5 years, raping all of the young girls, performing surgeries and invasive medical procedures with no anesthesia, hanging them up and torturing them for fun which included skinning them alive, taking away their babies and selling them, gang raping them in front of their children, starved, left without adequate housing, barred from learning to read, even males were raped and sometimes murdered for the rape they were forced to participate in, etc.

All well documented.

Trying to claim "well, this place has racism too, so people suffering in your country are not longer valid" is really gross. All racism is bad. One place having racism doesn't mean another should. Do you believe murder should be legal just because some places have higher murder rates? Are murder victims in safer areas less important just because their areas have less murders? That's exactly how you sound right now... You are that desperate to ignore the plight of people who are suffering. Incredibly callous.

I read everything you wrote, and I saw no corrections. I did see someone desperate to stick to their bias and ignore proven problems.

[wolfcat87]

@Kelly6 I do not know enough about what is happening in Gaza to form an educated opinion. I know Jews and Palestinians in the area were both incredibly racist and biased towards each other before any of this started.

[JacobJordan]

I'll list some more statistics for you since you seem intent on arguing. Black offenders choose white victims in 64% of robberies, 51% of assaults and nearly 60% of rapes. In contrast white offenders choose black victims 8.3% for robberies, 2.7% for assaults and 5.5% for rapes. So of the 2 white people prey on white people while black people prey on both and have a higher likelihood of preying on white people. Sources: ojp. gov ucr. fbi. gov ojjdp. gov bjs. ojp. gov lvcriminaldefense. com and many many more. So even the facts of modern society are proving you wrong. History proves you wrong. Modern times prove you wrong. So feel free to disregard the white on white as you have multiple times. But know that if you do black on black is also off the table. And if that is the case black people still lead by an astounding margin when it comes to black on white crime vs white on black crime. If you plan to debate a topic I suggest you actually know the topic

[Kelly6]

@wolfcat87
is that what you think?
by the way there is genocide happening all because or race, and you guys are fighting about past.

[JacobJordan]

If we really quoting hate crimes stats I can do that too. Per capita hate crime rates were.9 per 1,000 whites.7 per 1,000 blacks and.9 per 1,000 Hispanics. So wrong once again. Sources: justice. gov bjs. ojp. gov

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan Actually, originally Jewish lineage followed the male line. So, it has not always been that way.

Again, you did not provide a source to back anything to do with the debate you started on which type of slavery was worse. You simply threw out a red herring and attempted to change the debate again. That's called a logical fallacy. You know you cannot prove what you are saying. You cannot prove that white on white slavery was worse. You cannot prove that racism against blacks does not exist int he U. S. You certainly cannot prove that women in the U. S. are the most privileged.

Women are raped and molested more often than men in the U. S.

"1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed, 2.8% attempted). About 3% of American men—or 1 in 33—have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime."

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem

"An estimated 91% of victims of rape & sexual assault are female and 9% male. Nearly 99% of perpetrators are male."

supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu/statistics

Women are assaulted more.

"1 in 4 women and 1 in 7 men have been victims of severe physical violence (e. g. beating, burning, strangling) by an intimate partner in their lifetime."

https://ncadv.org/STATISTICS

www.statista.com/.../

Women are paid less and promoted less.

"In 2022, American women typically earned 82 cents for every dollar earned by men."

www.pewresearch.org/.../

"About four-in-ten working women (42%) in the United States say they have faced discrimination on the job because of their gender."

www.pewresearch.org/.../

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan You really didn't read the conversation, I already addressed my privileges and what they are. Directly disproves you trying to claim I can't recognize it. Talk about putting on blinders and selectively reading. It's not even the first time you've ignored something I've written...

First you claim that no discrimination happens and it's impossible, then you claim businesses all have the right to discriminate even when violating FEDERAL laws. So, it's not impossible, eh? Thanks for affirming the obvious. To take it even further, you just claimed that it's okay to discriminate against WOMEN for being pregnant. A condition only women have. Which disproved your claim that women are more privileged...

So, not only do you support discrimination based on race, you also support it based on gender and medical conditions. All protected classes under federal law. Good to hear what an upstanding and non-law abiding citizen you are... and how little you care for your fellow humans.

You still have not provided even one source... Go look up what providing a source in a debate means, please.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan Still aren't linking to even a single source, and continuing to directly contradict earlier statements.

I'm calling it, because this isn't going anywhere and scrolling through over 50 replies is getting to be a pain.

Stay racist!

[JacobJordan]

I have posted numerous sources they are broken up with spaces as I listed multiple back to back. And did not include the standard long format link due to character limitations. The facts are you are wrong when it comes to how "bad" racism is in America. Vast majority of crime that is race motivated happens to white people or hispanics. And I linked the sources for that as well. At no point have you been correct in any of your claims and the data of dozens and dozens of federally recognized sources have published dozens of articles pointing out that exact fact.

[JacobJordan]

Links are broken child. If you want to stay ignorant that is fine but the statistics actually prove black people are vastly more racist than white people and of course you blame us and play victim. I am utilizing a computer and my phone so I can directly quote sources which is why the links are in short format. If you want the long hand.
1. www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crime-statistics
2. www.ojp.gov/.../violent-crime-intraracial
3. nap.nationalacademies.org/read/9719/chapter/8#157
4. ucr.fbi.gov/.../expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls
And many many many more. Take your racist entitled judgmental hypocrisy and be quiet child

[JacobJordan]

Unfortunate when every federally accredited source disproves everything you spent 2 days lying and playing victim about. Ta ta for now and to quote you "Stay racist!"

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan My links to sources were written out just fine. Claiming all of the expert sources, gov agencies, studies, and expert historians I linked to and quoted throughout this conversation are all wrong is pretty sad. We all know they aren't wrong. You certainly aren't an expert on the subject nor have you bothered to read any of the data. You choose to avoid the facts and refuse to educate yourself.

You also refuse to stay on topic and switch any time an expert source is posted proving you wrong. You clearly choose to ignore facts when quoted and linked for you. Meaning you already know you're wrong, you already know the issues exist, and you support maintaining them. Meaning there's no reason to continue any debate. Debates are for intellectuals who can be swayed by facts and a desire to self educate and improve personally.

We get it, you want to keep racism alive and well and will argue your little heart out in favor of it. Good for you. I'm not for racism. Not sure what you are claiming I'm racist about since I'm mostly white. Pretty laughable. As someone who is mostly white, I have no problem acknowledging the well recorded continuing systemic racism in the U. S. It's inarguable. In no way are whites the victims of systemic racism. You won't find any data or studies proving whites are being harmed by any racially motivated initiatives against them.

I would rather end this conversation and focus my energy on people who actually have a chance of caring about others and real issues in society. I know when there's a dead horse or brick wall in front of me, and I have no desire to poke it. I'm going to bed.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan Since I quoted the FBI and linked to their compilation of hate crime data showing more than half of hate crimes are committed by Whites earlier, and other government sources, you are just a liar at this point. Or, do you not know the F in FBI means Federal? Ha ha ha. Byeeee. Just making my point over and over now.

[JacobJordan]

You choose to ignore white enslavement and the torture and mass genocide of white people when it suits you because it goes against the narrative you are peddling. "you won't find any data or studies proving whites are being harmed by any racially motivated initiatives against them" I already stated that and quoted that website. since you choose to ignore that because it suits you I'll post it again.
www.ojp.gov/.../violent-crime-intraracial
"more whites are victimized by whites (77 percent) than by blacks (17.1 percent), and more blacks are victimized by blacks (77 percent) than by whites (14.4 percent). Although violent crime by white offenders is apparently strongly intraracial, in that 96.9 percent of the white offenders chose white victims, violent crime by black offenders is apparently predominantly interracial, with 55.2 percent of the black offenders choosing white victims. Black offenders chose white victims in 63.9 percent of robberies, 51.8 percent of assaults, and 58.6 percent of rapes. In contrast, white offenders chose black victims in 8.3 percent of robberies, 2.7 percent of assaults, and 5.5 percent of rapes."

here is another source
www.ojp.gov/.../black-black-homicide-psychological-political-perspective
"Today homicide is the leading cause of death among young Black men, and contributes significantly to the shortened life-span of the Black male. In about 80-90% of the cases, the Black victim was killed by another Black, and about 52% of the murder victims were acquainted with their assailant."
of the links you posted nearly all were news reports lol complete bias source well done. of the remainder none pertain to the race portion of the conversation. if "black lives matter" so damn much then how about you stop killing each other. it isn't white peoples fault that black people murder each other in droves.

[JacobJordan]

read both of those and weep for the reality black people murder each other in numbers far exceeding white people and they also target white in numbers 12 times or more the rate at which white people target black people. talk about reality my goodness turns out white people are the victims of racism not the perpetrators but I am sure you will find a way to ignore that

[JacobJordan]

lol I went through all your links and you are full of shit. you didn't once quote the fbi.
www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crime-statistics
but here are some actual hate crime states
and here is another
www.justice.gov/.../2022-hate-crime-statistics
and another
www.fbi.gov/.../fbi-releases-2022-crime-in-the-nation-statistics
and yet another
bjs.ojp.gov/violent-victimization-race-or-hispanic-origin-2008-2021

again numerous actual sources not hilariously biased news articles point out that you. are. wrong.

[JacobJordan]

that being I am no longer going to waste my time educating you on the literal reality of crime in america. I will remind you that hurling insults, blustering, lying, ignoring evidence and moving the goalposts does not make you right. in fact it is a sign you are in fact wrong and unable to admit it. that is called cognitive dissonance. I do wish you the very best with your "victimization narrative". chow!

[ObscuredBeyond]

So telling you that reversing the hourglass is just as wrong as the initial offenses, many of which you've lied about or exaggerated, and that it's wrong no matter the direction, to you, is the same as wanting the old bad thing to continue, because you can't fathom any actual reforms, only a flipping of the hourglass?

I know you're not that stupid, Wolfcat. You're dishonest. And you know you're being dishonest.

[ObscuredBeyond]

@wolfcat87: You're lying about everything. We know you're lying. You know you're lying. You know that we know you're lying, yet you keep lying.

Your overlords and handlers are going to be very displeased with you when they realize you aren't fooling anyone.

[wolfcat87]

@ObscuredBeyond Yeah, me posting links directly to my sources makes me a liar... And, you going on about overlords makes you not delusional. Birds of a feather flock together for sure.

Like I said last night, the conversation is over. It takes intelligence and literacy to have an intellectual discourse. I'm not seeing either in the replies.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan The conversation isn't about crime in America. It's about RACISM in America. Like I said, you kept changing topics (red herring logical fallacy) any time you were proven wrong. Like the FBI statistics noting how many hate crimes are reported every year and who the culprits are. The conversation was never about crime in America.

You jumped from racism to slavery when you lost the first point, then from slavery to women are privileged and lost that as well. Now, you're attempting to jump to crime which is so far from the topic we started on that it's embarrassing just watching you flounder. I asked for expert sources backing your first points, and you were unable to prove even one and just kept changing topics until you found something you could attempt to argue. But, that's not how a debate works. Where are your sources proving the previous points you attempted to make? Nowhere? It would be like me suddenly arguing that jello is made of pectin and posting links to prove that just because I can';t prove something about racism. That's not showing your education, that's just an inability to admit when you are wrong and learn from it.

This is why the conversation is over. My point was proven many posts ago, and you ran from it and hid your head in the sand like a typical willfully blind person. No person can claim to be educated if they run from the facts that don't align with their personal biases.

[JacobJordan]

And yet I proved with expert sources that racism is happening... to white people. But you choose to ignore that. Blacks prey on white people 12x more than it happens in reverse I proved that on my second comment. And yet you choose to be the whiny little victim that shifts goalposts. Educate yourself it is honestly pathetic how brainwashed you are

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan Again, read the FBI hate crime stats. You still clearly haven't. 🙄

[iFarted]

"A black person is more likely to get a low level job now but not a high level one." That's what they applied to no? "Black inner city schools provide much worse educations compared to schools with more whites or Asians" I can't speak on the white schools but during my generation most of my peers were first generation Asian American and our immigrant parents worked two or three jobs to be able to afford rent or a mortgage in a decent neighborhood. No one is stopping Black parents from doing the same. No one is forcing black people to go to "black" schools which isn't even a thing in my area. Parents apply to what schools they want their kids to go to. "colleges often have programs for anyone from under privileged backgrounds." One of my best friend grew up in a poor "black" neighborhood and grew up poor. His parents were never really around cause they were always working. He ended up going to a 4 year university so there's no excuse. It's the individual. We choose what we want to do... We can't make excuses for anyone's lack of effort to make financial means... I grew up with poor immigrant parents that can barely make our a sentence in English, they worked their butts off to save enough money to risk opening up a business in which they'd no idea if it'd be successful. I messed up in school and barely graduated HS. I was never academically smart and decided to join a union trade even as a smaller statured person. Now I make over 6 figures from my career along with more money on investments. You can't tell me that "black" people don't have opportunities.. In my field they'd gladly accept any able body as long as you show up, put in effort and aren't a pain in the @ss to work with.

[wolfcat87]

@iFarted You misunderstand, blacks are promoted less within companies even when equally or better qualified than other candidates.

The first point literally disproves what you're saying. Asians are not being kept away from promotions or higher paying jobs, so they can make the money to live in better neighborhoods more easily. They are also not being denied housing whether from landlords who discriminate or mortgage loan originators. So, yes black people are prevented from the same upward motion in society based on the same level of effort.

You don't have black schools in your area, so why are you making assumptions about black schools and what options their students have? My mother bussed us kids across town for a better school. That meant waking up at 3am, getting us ready, catching a bus, a train, another train, and another bus, then walking over 5 miles with two young children because white neighborhoods with good schools didn't allow busses into their neighborhoods. You expected get to do that twice a day while working 4 jobs? That's insane and unrealistic.

Also, many school districts will not allow children from outside of their district to attend their schools. My current area does not allow it unless you pay out of pocket for the expenses. Schools are not reimbursed for the costs of students from out of their district attending. 15 years ago, that meant $5,000 yr. I'm sure it's way higher now.

[wolfcat87]

@iFarted I never argued the point you made about college. I agree that anyone can go if they live in one of the 20 states that offer free community college. The problem is no one teaches black children about college options. I went to 19 schools before graduating from high school, and everyone made college seem impossible. They told me my only chance at college was a scholarship. My husband was the only person who told me going to college is easy. I was an adult at that point.

Immigrant parents generally move to areas with immigrant communities. Considering they couldn't speak English, it's highly likely that they networked. Everyone doesn't have the option of joining an insular immigrant community to benefit. My husband's parents did the same when they moved from Portugal and still don't speak English. They made great money working for friends and family who came first. They faced no discrimination at all. So, it's not the same at all.

Blacks, Natives, and Mexicans all work incredibly hard. No one is making excuses when they ask for the same treatment and opportunities as whites are freely given. It's not complicated. It's called equal rights. Jobs refusing to even interview qualified candidates just because they have black names isn't equal. Studies have proven this still happens. Landlords, banks, and sellers refusing to allow blacks into better neighborhoods isn't equal. This has been proven to happen. Refusing blacks the chance to have good educations isn't equal either. There's discrimination against multiple minorities at every level.

I do well because I'm a landlord and benefit from the privilege of white family members. I have personally known multiple landlords who will not rent to minorities. So, they do not have the same housing options as whites. Which means they don't have access to the same good environments or schools.

[iFarted]

"Asians are not being kept away from promotions or higher paying jobs" Actually its opposite.. Most of the time Asians are paid higher it's their own business. They work in a startup and they're overqualified, or they're in a field where higher education is required. Mortgage loans equally deny everyone based on income and statements... "You don't have black schools in your area, so why are you making assumptions about black schools and what options their students have? My mother bussed us kids across town for a better school." No one is forcing anyone to stay in a messed up system in the area... People immigrate from much further and much worse into USA...

[iFarted]

"The problem is no one teaches black children about college options" A lot of first generation Americans from parents of 3rd world countries and a good example is my parents and a lot of my peers parents didn't even get a chance to go to highschool. My dad dropped out of middle school to start working to support his siblings. They have no clue about schooling. They only instilled hard work ethics. If one is able bodied and willing to put in work then there's always options... Perhaps not all across America is the same but if poor immigrants who barely speak a lick of English can come here and flourish then there is no excuse for anyone who is able bodied and can speak English to not be able to flourish. It's a matter of if one is willing to change, move and work.. Again, no one is forcing anyone to stay in one area. If one is in an area where there's no opportunity and is oppressed then move..

[wolfcat87]

@iFarted There have been multiple lawsuits proving that mortgage companies have not denied loans equally. Feel free to use Google. Just like it's been proven that appraisers don't appraise properties equally. There have been many issues in the real estate industry as well as city policies.

www.google.com/.../bank-to-pay-31m-for-avoiding-mortgages-to-minorities-largest-such-settlement-in-u-s-history

www.forbes.com/.../

www.justice.gov/.../protecting-homeowners-discriminatory-home-appraisals

www.nytimes.com/.../...amily-land-reparations.html

ij.org/report/eminent-domain-african-americans/

I'm not arguing about Asians working for themselves. Everyone in the U. S. can't suddenly work for themselves. We all have to start somewhere. Also, even with higher education, or any job collecting money from others, someone still has to look at you and/or your name and decide to hire you. That still leaves room for discrimination. People assume Whites and Asians are more intelligent thanks to stereotypes and are more likely to hire them even with the same credentials as we've already demonstrated.

www.nber.org/.../employers-replies-racial-names

fortune.com/.../

[wolfcat87]

@iFarted You cannot deny that Asians and other immigrants network well and give each other priority hiring. In your example, they work for themselves or in higher jobs. But, many who start their own companies or make it to higher positions give other Asians they don't even know priority in hiring and promotions. Those working as independent contractors working for others or selling products are still more likely to get customers from their own communities.

An example would be our Asian regional manager for Panda Express. An Asian guy I know went to work there, and as soon as she saw him they began networking and he was set. Mexicans do it as well, and so do the Portuguese. It's very common in some cultures.

Blacks have been unable to do that. Historically, any time blacks have tried to come together to thrive and network they've been intentionally attacked and broken up. Black Wall Street is an example. Local governments using red lining and imminent domain to steal and tear down black neighborhoods and businesses is another. It's been used on Hispanics by people calling ICE and Natives by putting them on reservations with less resources.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Black-Wall-Street

[wolfcat87]

@iFarted The others who immigrate from worse into the U. S. usually end up in ghettos and aren't doing well or with 25 people from one family sharing a small house. I'm not against that, but there are problems.

First, blacks don't tend to have families of 25 people to share with. We also don't come from a culture where that's a norm. Even when the fewer people in black families share, they don't have the same combined household incomes as families with better hiring opportunities and more promotional opportunities.

Lastly, the vast majority of white men don't have to share with 25 people to get ahead in their own country. They simply have more opportunities. With the same opportunities, blacks wouldn't have to either.

Minorities should simply get the same opportunities from the start as any white man, and their conditions will improve.

Again, implying others may have it worse does not lessen suffering here. One issue existing does not justify keeping another issue going... You don't know how bad people can have it here.

If there are typos, blame swipe and auto correct. That's a lot to proof read.

[wolfcat87]

@iFarted Again, you do not face discrimination. Everything you've said here confirms that you've faced no issues with anything based on how you look. So, why do you assume no one else faces issues based on how they look when study after study proves otherwise? The federal government admits and has proven its an issue... The links are right in front of you to educate yourself, and you choose not to.

Discrimination against blacks is nation wide. We can't get away from it. 😆 Blacks tried to escape it for hundreds of years with no luck. There's already a saying in the black community. I'll link you another resource about it.

"For decades, black parents have told their children that in order to succeed despite racial discrimination, they need to be “twice as good”: twice as smart, twice as dependable, twice as talented. This advice can be found in everything from literature to television shows, to day-to-day conversation. Now, a new paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research shows that when it comes to getting and keeping jobs, that notion might be more than just a platitude."

www.theatlantic.com/.../

The federal government confirms that this learn we all learn is true.

So, why do you and others like you think all of us are wrong about what we experience in our own lives? What makes you think the federal government of the U. S. is also wrong and somehow less intelligent than your individual assumptions? Why do you each assume the thousands of studies confirming our accounts are all wrong as well? That takes a mighty big ego to assume everyone else must be wrong rather than your own individual bias...

[JacobJordan]

You are so delusional, brainwashed and misguided by your hatred of white people and pathetic desperation to be a victim. Stop whining it is unbecoming. Some of the most successful people are black men. Black sports players, black rappers, black cooks, black artists, even one of the highest paid scientific people today is black. And you are still whining about how unfairly you are treated. Wake the fuck up you aren't being treated unfairly you likely just suck at your job which is why no one wants to hire you. You are nitpicking of a fraction of a fraction of the population while consistently ignoring the literal fact that 1 black people target black people in 90% of all crime. And 2 black people target white people in up to 60% of crime involving white people. And 3 when it comes to hate crimes black people are the lowest representation according to the statistics which I know your "victimized" clown self didn't bother to read despite my quoting it and linking the fuckin website. Hate crimes for black people were.7 per 1,000 where as hate crimes targeting white people and Hispanics was.9 per 1,000 people. You are an American you have a good life shut the fuck up and live it instead of whining like a 4 year old that hasn't been fed in 15 minutes

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan So, the U. S. government who wrote the sources I'm quoting are not white and are all racist against whites? It can't be that if you actually took the time to read the academic and government sources posted you might actually be able to have an educated discussion on the subject. I only posted about 20. There are thousands more disagreeing with you.

The fact that I'm mostly white is something you keep ignoring as well. Oh wait, you didn't even ask. You ignorantly ASSUMED based on how I look. Let's also forget my white children, and two white husbands, and my white family that I was born into. I only have a good life because I am mostly white and married white men. Life was much harder before that. Even my own children are treated differently by white people because one is more tan than the other. The tan one has been called n*gger at school and on the bus so many times that we lost count. She also had to deal with a teacher bullying her and then retaliating when we tried to speak with her about our concerns. Multiple of these instances were caught on cameras, and people were fired.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan You wouldn't know my life experience or that of any minority, because have you even once cared to ask anyone about their actual life experiences? No, you decided what you think my ethnicity should be (not white in your mind). Or, did you do the most racist, delusional, and ignorant thing possible and make up a bunch of preconceived notions (prejudice) and decide we must all fit the image you invented for us based on your own racism and insecurities? Exactly. As soon as YOU decided what ethnic category I must fit in according to you and no one else, you decided I must be against yours which YOU chose to place me outside of in your mind regardless of what my actual heritage is. Then, you decided I must be an enemy of your white heritage regardless of what I actually am or identify as. Disgusting and an excellent example of RACISM AND PREJUDICE. You chose to make me a threat and write personal attacks and make assumptions based on how I look. If I looked white, you wouldn't be assuming I am racist against all whites just for writing fact after fact and source after source. You're blinded from the facts by your own hate and fears. And, what's even stranger is you are so obsessed with denying the reality of minorities in this country that you can't seem to stop attempting to bully me into not discussing it...

It's easy for anyone to read back and see exactly which you choose to do over and over... No intelligent person assumes a reality in spite of what millions are proving to be the opposite.

Can't possibly be YOU who is racist and playing the victim. Especially when you're this desperate to ignore every quoted source and proven fact of the past and present...

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan Like the fact that an employer can't know if someone black is bad at a job if they don't hire them as soon as they see their name as proven by studies linked above. Oh wait, you didn't read a single government link and are too uneducated on the topic to have an intelligent opinion... yet here you are trying to pretend you know anything... Had you read the FBI site, you'd see it didn't agree with your statement.

Also, refer back to the government paper that proves that blacks work more than twice as hard compared to whites to get the jobs you are judging and many are still kept out of them.

And, clearly my million dollar portfolio is proof that you must be so right about me just sitting around playing the victim and sucking at my job... Oh wait, wouldn't it prove that I'm not doing either? Like all the other evidence in front of you proving you wrong that you ignore because you're so desperate to not change your racist ideals no matter what you see or hear. Crazy how that works... It's hilarious, because how many minorities are attempting to stop you from discussing your reality or struggles in life? None. So, another prime example of what minorities have to go through from whites completely unwarranted...

Not to mention the hypocrisy of you whining about how victimized whites are continuously under my answer and then mentioning how unbecoming whining is... 🙄 As if anyone chased you down and personally attacked you. Oh wait, that's what you've been attempting to do after chasing down my post over and over. Crazyyyy

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan Allow me to also point out the irony of my daughter being 80% White and still being called the N-word because people like you look at us and see tan skin and automatically label us Non White... in spite of our heritage and DNA. So dumb obnoxious. But, it makes my point as well.

Your behavior is atrocious, and your thought process leaves much to be desired.

[JacobJordan]

Bitch I didn't bother looking at your picture I guessed you were mixed because you fucking talked about having 1 white parent you delusional dolt. You are so beyond help it is getting funny. If you want to be a victim then be a victim if not shut the fuck and stop whining you aren't a child so quit acting like one. How a full grown fuckin adult has the mentality and wherewithal to act like a spoiled little girl is beyond me. You have the exact same fuckin privileges as everyone else you have more because you are half something not white. Frankly idgaf what you look like because just off the way you talk you are insufferable and I feel bad for any man unfortunate enough to have you for a wife. Be a victim. Don't be a victim. You are a waste of time, energy, and not worth further characters you aren't even worth the ones that went into this.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan Now, you're calling people names. Yeah, so intelligent... Your argument is so bad that you've resorted to calling me bitch, clown, victim, a child, spoiled little girl, insufferable, waste of energy... blah blah blah... All connected to your deep seated hatred and ignorance. But, if you insist on going that route... I don't mind joining in.

Hey, mister thinks he's superior. Are you so dim as to not realize that no one made you post here tagging me over and over day after day from the start? Didn't even occur to you that adults don't have to participate in something if they aren't enjoying it, eh? Who's throwing a temper tantrum like a badly raised brat because he lost the argument and proved he was racist as well as sexist and approves of discriminating against pregnant women in the work place? You.

But, let me borrow a page from your book over your incredibly childish rants and say, "If you want to be a victim then be a victim if not shut the fuck and stop whining you aren't a child so quit acting like one. How a full grown fuckin adult has the mentality and wherewithal to act like a spoiled little [boy] is beyond me"

So, me talking about having a white parent automatically equals not white? I specifically said "my white ancestors". But, that statement made you assume I'm not white without looking at a picture? That makes sense to anyone with a brain...

I'll link to another source, because we all know how much you like to read and educate yourself... oh wait, the exact opposite is true. I'll post it anyways to prove how dumb you are...

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan

insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/.../how-are-black-white-biracial-people-are-perceived-in-terms-of-race

"The research finds that overall, both races view black-white biracial people as slightly “more black than white,” says Kteily."

"The one-drop rule, which social scientists call hypodescent, was considered legal in the U. S. for centuries. As recently as the 1980s, a woman applying for a passport was told she could not call herself white because she had a black ancestor four generations back. Although the law is now defunct, studies show that many people still think of those who are biracial as black."

People like you who keep ignoring my white ancestry to discriminate and prejudge. Yet another fact you've proven firsthand.

"In the past, as well as in this current study, researchers have found that among white people, the tendency to classify biracial people as black is associated with higher levels of anti-egalitarianism—the belief that certain social groups are inherently superior to others. Anti-egalitarian white people are especially likely to classify biracial people as black when they perceive economic scarcity or if black people appear to be gaining in social status—thereby posing a threat to whites’ dominant position.

“People who support the traditional hierarchy are especially likely to classify a black–white biracial as black,” Kteily explains, noting that doing so helps to maintain status boundaries between those groups at the top and those at the bottom of society."

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan
Hmmm, people who see blacks as a threat and wish to maintain a hierarchy of whites over blacks tend to shove mixed people into the black category as you've done here by trying to disconnect me from my white identity and heritage and classify me as racist against myself and an enemy of myself and other whites simply for stating facts you don't want to believe but that have been proven and government sources have been citing proving over and over as well... While at the same time claiming no such problem exists in society as you act it out personally... So hilariously stupid.

"White participants who classified the child as more black had slightly higher levels of anti-egalitarianism, just as previous work had found. But, in a new finding, black participants showed the opposite trend: those who classified the child as more black were more likely to endorse the principle of equality between social groups."

So, people like yourself who choose to view me as more black tend to be anti-equality. Imagine that... Racist.

On top of that, after being told we face discrimination from multiple groups you chose to ignore that and instead assume we must have it better than both. Stupid again. Not based in any reality and another prejudice you've decided to have against people of color based on nothing factual.

You feel bad for my husbands? Does it look like they care? Been with them 17 years and 10 years. They are happy. Clearly, as usual, your ignorant and hate filled assumptions are wrong yet again. Who would have guessed? Oh yeah, me.

If being proven wrong over and over again fills you with such rage, maybe you should try therapy? Or being more intelligent and educated so you don't make it so easy? Ha ha

[JacobJordan]

Coming from the woman calling people racist. Shut the fuck up hypocrite. Of the people on earth I am the least racist lol as I literally don't even pay attention to people's skin color. Nah you deserve every insult being thrown your way with your shitty attitude.

[wolfcat87]

@JacobJordan You really just spent days ranting about race after assuming mine. Someone clearly doesn't listen to himself or pay attention to his own behavior.

Most of your insults were baseless. Like what makes a woman a bitch specifically in your sexist eyes? Racist is just fact at this point. I explained why you are step by step and even used a scientific study to show how your behavior broken down confirms you're racist. Big difference there, buddy. Crying that you can't be racist just because you don't like the label doesn't change that your behavior here has indeed been racist.

racist - characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
"he has been targeted by vicious racists online"

prejudice - preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.

antagonism - active hostility or opposition.

All of the definitions have been met. You prejudged minorities and I. You have no experience as a minority and did not care to hear any firsthand experiences from minorities, government websites, and scientific studies on the topic. Meaning you have no facts or firsthand experience as a minority to back your prejudiced behaviors and assumptions. You have been incredibly antagonistic towards a minority based on these prejudices and biases you came into the conversation having.

[wolfcat87]

youtube.com/shorts/KgA2a2Q70Iw?si=GbcUqi6x3JhfIgJ8

What minorities look like working the hardest while people are saying WoRK HarDeR... their lack of working hard must be the real issue...

[goaded]

That video's hilarious, even though the guy in the background doesn't have a chance to do the thing.

[findacure4wokeness]

@wolfcat87 you could just go back to Africa and us evil won't follow you. Whites will always have their haters follow them to the ends of the earth with there hands out. It's all about us wanting to be left alone and nobody respecting our space. All the supposedly horribly things you think we did wasn't enough to stop you from chasing us.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness Except Africa was colonized and there are MILLIONS of white Africans... Clearly you have not been there.

On top of that, I'm mostly white. My two white husbands and whiter children are also white. So, me going there would be me making Africa more white. Try reading the entire conversation before making ignorant statements.

Next, no one "chased" you. Europeans invaded everywhere else. No one ever invaded Europe except the Moors. You clearly have very little knowledge of history.

You and your ancestors being here voluntarily proves your point wrong unless your ancestors were one of the few prisoners forced over against their will for being criminals. Blacks never had the option, they were forced to come. That's like kidnapping and raping people then claiming they are are "chasing" you because you think you are soooo desirable. Funny! My white ancestors were certainly not forced to be here.

[findacure4wokeness]

Your black ancestry is doing all the colonizing these days. Whites always wanted their own spaces and POC always wanted access to it. Whites built towns and cities and everyone even the natives moved in with the whites. I wish we were not Desirable. Europe is being invaded right now.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness My black ancestors aren't colonizing anything. They are dead. They didn't colonize anything while alive either. They were dragged to the states against their will. 😆 But, very racist to assume all blacks have the same heritage and are doing the same things. Most Africans are relaxing happily in their countries of birth.

If Europe were actually being "invaded", then where are the mass deaths, war, and slavery? Nowhere. There is no invasion or colonization. Such a victim with no real victims...

[findacure4wokeness]

So it's only colonizing when white people do it? White people didn't move into the native camps the natives moved into the towns and cities we built. the Europeans are being abused and the Negros and Africans are migrating into Europe in mass and over boarders illegally. whites run from diversity when diversity chase whites. Everyone whines about whites but everyone fights for the right to live with us. Your negros were captured and enslaved by other Negros but you are unable to take any sort of accountability. negros are 10% of the population but are responsible for 58% of all crimes. Maybe the good Negros need to exile the criminal majority that holds them back.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness You're joking right? Europeans literally killed Natives to take the jobs and nation they built. Minnesota made it illegal for Natives to even enter the state. They weren't invited. Nothing comparable has ever happened to Europeans. 😆 I can't imagine being so desperate to be a victim.

Black on black slavery and white on white slavery were comparable. They still say the slaves as human when they were the same color. White on black and white on native slavery is so full of atrocities that there is no comparison. They decided anyone non white was inhuman and could be treated as viciously as any animal or livestock. That's unique.

There is no criminal black majority. 😆 Most criminals in the U. S. prison system are indeed white. That's even with stats showing whites get fewer prison sentences and lighter ones. Hmm, guess even with an that they can't stay out of prison... Most blacks are obviously not criminals. Will you get rid of your criminal white majority that holds you back and exile them? 😆 Just using your "math and reasoning" there.

"In 2019, 69.4 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 26.6 percent were Black or African American, and 4.0 percent were of other races. Of arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 19.1 percent were Hispanic or Latino."

ucr.fbi.gov/.../table-43-overview

[findacure4wokeness]

Criminal whites are easy to deal with jail them shoot them what ever it takes. N**** criminals cry foul rioting burning city blocks to the ground accusing their victims law enforcement of racism and thuggery like Tray Von Martian smashing that what guys head into the concrete then the black community cries fool when that thug gets shot. Natives didn't build cities lol. Negros need whites and Whites are way better off then Negros, How is this for Math and reasoning Blacks - Whites = 3rd world shitholes. If It wasn't true you wouldn't care about white people going there own way but black are dependent on others, We both know it's true.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness Wow, that got super racist really fast. I'm doing better than most "whites" in any country. So, inaccurate. I'm clearly not as criminal as so many whites or blacks in or out of prison.

Whites rioted plenty for thousands of years. They invented rioting, lynch mobs, etc. Not to mention the attack on our capital by... whites. Disgusting behavior. 🫣 What a bunch of animals.

Natives built cities, or did you fail history when they taught about Aztecs, Inca, Mayan, etc? 😳🥴 How embarrassing for you.

Wow, you really failed history. 🤣🤣🤣 Didn't whites run from Europe because society was so dirty and animalistic in their countries that anywhere else was better? So disgusting that nearly the whole continent was wiped out by disease... But, those same whites were so weak that they couldn't work the land or build anything in new countries? That's exactly why they parasitically decided to thuggishly use and enslave Natives, Blacks, and even relied heavily on Asians for labor? Labor they couldn't do on their own but every other ethnicity in the world could do just fine? WEAK 🤣🤣🤣 Who needed who again? No one else was needing to run away from home. No one else was asking to tag along to help these people who were helpless.

They were in fact so disease ridden that most areas were "conquered" simply by 80% of local populations coming into contact with their disgusting bodies and dying from diseases they all carried. Embarrassing! Read Guns, Germs, and Steel. 😄

They didn't build anything outside of Europe without begging, borrowing, or stealing. They had millions of others do what they literally couldn't. 😆That's the definitely of dependent. 🤡 💩

[findacure4wokeness]

Africa is the Aids capital of the universe lol. We have never needed POC you need us and we don't need you. We all know it's true. Go to the Blackest place you can find if we truly hold you back so much. You won't because because it's a lie pure and simple.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness Fun fact, most STDs in the world were spread by Europeans until everyone everywhere had a bunch to deal with. Like every other disease. Making my point again.

Historically each part of the world only had 1-2 STDs. 😆 Considering how popular beastiality is in European porn and AIDS came from apes... well, we all know how that one likely spread...

We don't all know it's true when Europeans literally forcefully imported millions of blacks to do all the work and had millions of Chinese come over to do the same. 🤣 No denying those obvious facts. But, you imported blacks because you didn't need them, right? That has to sound incredibly stupid even to a person with a low IQ...

I'm mostly European. Which makes it hilarious every time some dumb racist thinks they can do a DNA test by sight or put me in a category. 😆 Also, you're proving your own inability to read when I wrote it multiple times from the beginning of this conversation. Blindly ignorant and so uneducated. But, I thought you didn't need me to dumb things down for you? Wrong again apparently. 🤡 You really can't function on your own, eh?🤣

[findacure4wokeness]

Speaking of Hygiene, Diseases and of discussing things done with Animals here is this one of those jobs we whites couldn't do ourselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8PYozPB-8I
Lets call him Patent Zero

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness You really don't look at much porn do you? 😆 White guys and gals do far worse every day in the animal sections. They have whole sex farms for that stuff. Feel free to go check and get back to me later. You seem a bit "sheltered".

[findacure4wokeness]

You would really have to look hard to find that shit. Does it help you get off?

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness Never had to look hard for it. Ran into it in elementary school on a library computer. Saw some craaazy things before the librarian saw what was on the screen. I'm a germaphobe, so definitely not my thing.

[findacure4wokeness]

Why do you want to live with white people so much?

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness... You're projecting all that. I want to live with people of all cultures. That includes people who share my own and those who don't.

The real question is why are you so afraid of and threatened by the awesomeness other cultures bring to the table?

[findacure4wokeness]

Because I love my people and I don't want to live near people that are completely out of control. If a black guy starts shit with my kid he can't just deal with one of you he will have 10 or more of you savage tribe beating him half to death. Police don't want to arrest black criminals because they will possibly be sent to jail to stop Negros from rioting where he will get stabbed or killed by tribalistic savage Negros. I'm don't want to deal with career victims like you that blame shit on white people all the time to justify all the horrible criminal stuff that your people do. You all deny your faults blaming others instead leaving Negros no room for self improvement. The list goes on and on. Diversity makes white lives hell and brings nothing positive to the table. That's why there is white flight but your people will never leave us be. Black people are almost universally hated by every other race and who are you gonna blame for that? Who? never yourselves. I do feel empathy for other people but when bring there toxic shit to us uninvited and there is nowhere to run from them then we need to look after our own. My 2 brothers claim to love Diversity and I say leave the white suburbs and live in those Black areas but they never do because just like you secretly know your people need us to look after them my brothers secretly know how awful Negros treat non blacks in those places where Negros themselves hate to live.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness That was a pretty incoherent rant with way too many typos.

First, all of violent, criminal, druggies in my area are white. They really love their meth, fentanyl, and booze. If you think white areas don't have problems, then you don't get out much. But, are you blaming all of the white drug addicts, rapists, murderers, and criminals in the white state I live in on blacks somehow?

Police have no problem arresting black people. They get arrested disproportionately more for the same crimes as whites. Part of why my state has such a bad drug problem. Blacks in other states get locked up for having drugs. That doesn't happen when whites here have drugs.

Aren't you the career victim blaming blacks for everything? Talk about hypocritical projecting. The only reason there are blacks in the U. S. is because whites forced them to come here. So, that would make every black related problem in the U. S. completely the fault of whites. 😆 Not very wise on that topic are ya? You really don't seem to know any history. Yet, here you are blaming blacks for problems caused by whites. Exactly what you're attempting to accuse others of is what you are doing. It's hilarious! Not to mention taking zero accountability for the problems caused by whites around the world. "Uninvited" meaning forced here by the millions against their will. Someone's missing a few screws if you think being dragged here is uninvited. 😆 🤡

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness You should tell my husbands, white friends, their white families, and my white family that diversity made their lives hell, brought nothing to the table, and they forgot to universally hate me. 😆 Oh, and my million dollar portfolio that I "didn't" build. Not to mention my white clients who pay me $80-$120 hr for therapy because they feel what I bring to the table is worth it. I have never met any "race" that hates me. I've dated the rainbow. Mixed people were voted the most attractive demographic in the UK. As for black people, they date people of all colors. Always have. Where do you think mixed people come from?

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness Again, you have no idea what my heritage is. You're so blinded by hate and desperate to label me as what your delusional hate filled mind wishes I were that you still have not bothered to ask. You know why? Because nothing you believe is based on any fact. You're afraid to hear any facts that prove you wrong, because you know you're wrong. 😆 In fact, I doubt you know anything about your own heritage. If you did, you'd know white isn't an ethnicity. The fact that you identify so hard as white makes me think you're just a colonial mutt with no link to his ancestry. I can trace mine back to before the U. S. was even a nation. Every European nation has its own culture and heritage. If you'd been there, you'd know that don't identify as "white". They aren't all the same. You don't have a cultural identity. 💩

What do you have and what are you worth besides all this crying and misery? 🤣🤣🤣 I find it hard to believe anyone so confused, ignorant, miserable, and hateful is loved by anyone at all...

You're joking right? I lived in a ghetto in inner city Atlanta at one point. The blacks, whites, and Asians all got along. You really have no clue.

Black people never asked whites for help in the history of black people. 😆 Again, it was certainly the whites who imported blacks by the millions to get help. What does your delusional mind think millions of blacks were brought here by whites for? 🤔 To help the whites who couldn't do things on their own.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness
So, who are your people? Not whites, because whites aren't a people.
What is your exact heritage?
Do you have a DNA test to prove it?
Do you have enough DNA from any one European nation to even be able to claim one? I'm confident that I have more recent pure European heritage than you do.
Do you have citizenship in any European nation?
What makes you think they even want you?
If you had any real connection, why aren't you there since you think it's so great?
I have property in Europe, where's yours?
What exactly have you done in your lifetime that anyone would care about?

[findacure4wokeness]

I've had a DNA test and it is 100% western European. You don't look European to me and you have a stereotypical toxic N**** chip on your shoulder. If you were white which you aren't you are so full of self hatred it's sickening.
You ranted about blacks for over 100 posts already saying things like " WE were shipped here as slaves" and this " this country was built on the backs of millions of US" who exactly is WE and US.
So now we have all seen you painted yourself into a corner with your own lies I think it's a reasonable assumption that all this portfolio and your diversity hire career talk is bullshit. I think you live in a crack house. So sad and pathetic.
Just for shits and giggles I have to ask how pure is your European DNA? LMFAO

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness So, you think you can loolat someone and magically just know what their DNA is? That's not very intelligent. Do tell me exactly what my heritage is, country by country and percentage by percentage. I will say that most of my European ancestors migrated here after slavery was over and never participated in such barbarism.

Acknowledging facts and history isn't self hate. If anything it's self love to take the time to learn about and be able to talk about the past exactly as it happened. It's self hatred to deny history, attempt to cover it up, and lie about it. Clearly, you are deeply ashamed of the reality of European history. That's sad.

I also spoke about my white heritage from the start. Very selective mind you have there. Do you really lack the intelligence to realize people with multiple heritages exist? 😆 A person can claim more than one. Imagine being so lacking mentally as to not realize something so simple... It explains a lot actually.

What's even sadder is knowing all humans came from Africa originally and being so in denial about it. If Africans are bad, then everyone is bad.

Imagine feeling so bad about yourself that you have to imagine me being poor just to get by in life. 😄 That truly is sad and pathetic. Especially when that's your response to "What have you done in your lifetime that anyone would care about?" Your answer is nothing, and to over compensate by denying that anyone else could be doing better. Funny how I already knew it would be.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness
Western European isn't an exact heritage. So, you have no actual modern ties to any European country? Just as I claimed. Funny how that works. 🤔 Again, there's no such thing as "pure European DNA". 😆 You're just showing your ignorance again saying something so silly. There are multiple ethnicities within Europe. A European would know that and know never to try to pretend they are the same. That being said, some of my ancestors migrated much more recently compared to the others. I only have 3 European ethnicities. I would love your eyeballs, that you think can see DNA, to tell me what those ethnicities are and what percentage I am of each.

You forgot to answer the other questions as well:

So, who are your people? Not whites, because whites aren't a people.
What is your exact heritage?
Do you have a DNA test to prove it? You mentioned it, I would love to see it.
Do you have enough DNA from any one European nation to even be able to claim one? I'm confident that I have more recent pure European heritage than you do.
Do you have citizenship in any European nation?
What makes you think they even want you?
If you had any real connection, why aren't you there since you think it's so great?
I have property in Europe, where's yours?
What exactly have you done in your lifetime that anyone would care about?

[findacure4wokeness]

You brought up how rich you are so wealth matters to you. you said that your whiter then me so you are the one that thinks you can tell even without looking at a picture and if you are mixed than you can't be whiter than me because My DNA is 100% white. It is very basic logic that your unable to follow which also means that your too stupid to have a portfolio and career like that. The truth is your full of shit. Your projecting what your think is important onto me.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness Work on your reading comprehension. Never said whiter than you. I said I would bet I have more pure ethnic heritage from a European country that I can claim than you. I have some European ancestors who migrated over recently. White is not an ethnicity. Belgian is an ethnicity, Swiss is an ethnicity, Persian is an ethnicity. The fact that you can only name white means you have no real connection to Europe and no actual ethnic identity relating to any ethnicity. You don't really belong anywhere in Europe. It's always the people with no culture trying to hard to act like skin is a trophy. You haven't done anything in life, have nothing in life, and it's literally all you've got... I would bet money your ancestors weren't much better since their DNA made you.

You directed me to a man who claims there's no way someone with minority DNA can outperform a white person. I've already outperformed the vast majority of people from any ethnic background by remaining in the top 5-10% for my age range while having some minority DNA. The man's a hack. Do try to keep up with the conversation.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness Also, you're* would be the correct word to use. Ha ha ha, imagine not knowing proper grammar while trying to call someone else stupid! You royally fudged that one up no less than 6 times!!! Ha ha ha ha ha. Learn basic English. What a joke. Imagine trying to brag about being "white" while not even being able to function while reading and writing a European language! Like I said, you don't belong. Which brings me back to the list:

So, who are your people? Not whites, because whites aren't a people.
What is your exact heritage?
Do you have a DNA test to prove it? You mentioned it, I would love to see it.
Do you have enough DNA from any one European nation to even be able to claim one? I'm confident that I have more recent pure European heritage than you do.
Do you have citizenship in any European nation?
What makes you think they even want you?
If you had any real connection, why aren't you there since you think it's so great?
I have property in Europe, where's yours?
What exactly have you done in your lifetime that anyone would care about?

[findacure4wokeness]

I have had very wealthy relatives but I don't value money as an achievement , Wasn't it you that despises Jews for being tight asses anyway? As for gramma and spelling you should really read your own posts again before you point fingers at anyone else for that. I never directed to to a man that said no black man has ever out performed any white man. That's your insecurities talking. Maybe you should lie down on your own couch for having others do it venting their issues to you. As Gretta said once this is some small dick energy your giving off are you shore your not a man. Every time you loose an agreement you subject change by saying Look how big my portfolio is? bluh bluh your compensating for something there. Mohamed Ali once said Everyone wants to be with people that look like them He is dead against it But he get a pass on that opinion because he is black right? Black privilege. I don't blame people from another races wanting to preserve their race. Anyway all you need to do is learn the respect the space of others that want it. just like the burden of proof belongs to door to door salesmen to prove to you why you need what he is selling. the customer doesn't have to prove why the salesman needs to take his shit and give back the cash he snatch out of your wallet. The burden of proof belongs to you if you want to live with us, You need to convince us to except you because access to white spaces isn't a human right.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness You've had wealthy relatives 🤣 Everyone has since all humans are related. That doesn't mean you've been wealthy or your direct ancestors have been.

I didn't say anything about Jews.

Typos vs not knowing your vs you're are very different things. 😂 You don't know English well.

I'm not scrolling through 100+ posts to see who did if it wasn't you. Too many. You're welcome to. Refuting something that was said in an argument thread isn't small dick energy.

Are you sure you are a man? Imagine crying that someone else is successful and happy to talk about it 😆 You can't even list anything you've done at all in life, so you're only option is to cry about others. Weak

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness Imagine cherry picking one opinion out of a billion to try to make a point. Dumb

Another English fail even you don't know what privilege is. 🤣

If you want space, there are thousands of uninhabited places in the world for you to get lost in. So, why are you here crying instead of manning up and going to one of them? Talk about lacking the intellectual ability to problem solve rather than cry about it. 🥴 You can't even respect your own ideals by following them, so of course no one respects them or you. What a joke.

No one wants to live with you. No one ever did. Your ancestors were so unhappy with what they'd created in their own homelands that they ran from them to everyone else's. 🤣🤣🤣 No one else in the world did that until your ancestors messed up their lands as well. Talk about embarrassing.

My European ancestors never had that problem. They didn't ruin their homelands and never had to migrate to ruin other lands due to their own misery. To this day they have some of the best land in Europe. They were some of the first here and managed to interact in a civilized way without ruining anything. They used that ability to make excellent money back in Europe in a symbiotic way rather than parasitical.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness So, not that you even have a heritage you can even claim, your ancestors sucked at life about as much as you do. That's why you're here with no connection and nothing. You have no money, no legacy, and no heritage. All you have in your entire life is pale skin. My ancestors were all contributing members of society, while all you can cry about is how your literally skin must be worth something because nothing about you is valuable. That's pathetic. 🤣

If you want to be around "white" people, go to Europe. There are multiple countries there with populations that are 98% white. Like Bulgaria. You seem to think that will be paradise. So follow your own ignorant ideals and leave lands you don't belong in to return to "white" lands you think must be paradise. 🤣

[findacure4wokeness]

You need to convince us to let you stay in our spaces or leave. And so far you are failing. Access to white spaces isn't a human right. The burden of proof is on you.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness You don't have enough people to make a country. No one wants to be there. 🤣 End of convo here. Go convince them, because they aren't having it.

Do white people deserve a whites only country? ↗

[findacure4wokeness]

You said there are countries that are 98% white.

[wolfcat87]

@findacure4wokeness Yes, there are. Please move the conversation to the new topic. It's a chore to scroll for this one.

[Anonymous]

only brainwashed people would say it's racist.
ALL lives DO MATTER.

the ignorance people trying to argue that it's racist because blacks from a long time ago were enslaved is ridiculous. It's the same like saying everyone else's life doesn't matter just because someone else suffered a long time ago, 🤯

not to mention there were also whites who were enslaved. Just because the history only shows blacks predominantly perhaps because they were larger in numbers to be enslaved doesn't take away from the fact that other racist suffered during that time as well under the very same treatment and also blacks are the ones who enslaved their own people first and the chain just escalated to others to continue to enslave them.

in any case, ALL LIVES matter, you cannot say it's racist without sounding brainwashed. You do not matter more than another life just because someone else suffered.

so many people today suffered under horrible treatment even under their own parents regardless of color and their lives matter too.

it's not racist, it's humane. Treat people kindly. if you don't like someone, you don't have to be in their lives.

[Opinion Owner]

races* not racist

[ObscuredBeyond]

And Wolfcat above is very much an example of that. She doesn't care about real history or perspectives of those who've lived through it. She won't look at the book 1620. Just regurgitates the same links to 1619 Project propaganda that all parrot the lies ad nauseum, and decides that makes her right.

So it is with all these woke pseudo-intellectuals.

[zeitgeist057]

No, it's not racist, it's just ignorance/lack of perspective.

People who say "BLM" are pointing out inequity and very real issues.

People who say "ALM" are pointing out (their desire for, and belief in) equality. It's not wrong, but it's turning a blind eye and a deaf ear to a legitimate ask.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/s29qACe0mEA

Yes, ALM, but that's not the actual conversation and concern that the statement BLM is presenting. It's being (either intentionally or unintentionally) obtuse.

The whole ALM vs. BLM is an issue of communication. What one side is saying is not being received as it is being sent.

[ObscuredBeyond]

The fact that BLM activists murdered a young mother in cold blood for saying "all lives matter" tells me all I need to know about BLM. They aren't interested in black lives mattering. They're interested in helping a criminal cabal of lawless evildoers destroy whatever they want without consequences.

[zeitgeist057]

@ObscuredBeyond the fact that you cherry pick one specific incident involving a few individuals to draw a judgement about an entire movement and avoid intelligent conversation tells me all I need to know about you. Nothing you wrote has anything to do with my answer, other than it is on the same topic. It's as obtuse as I stated it would be.

You don't want discussion, you want to keep your preconceived notions intact. Discussion with a person of this mindset is pointless, unless someone is seeking to be denigrated and valid points ignored while maintaining a civil attitude. I have plenty of opportunities to develop my patience in my professional life, so I'll pass.

[ObscuredBeyond]

Every time I brought up Miriam Carey on Facebook, they'd snicker and laugh.

[RingOfFire]

"BLM"/Black Lives Matter (Also known as Big Large Mansions) is a fraudulent, corrupt Marxist/communist, anti-American, black racist terrorist organization so if anything the term "Black lives matter" should be seen as the racist chant not "All lives matter."

https://nypost.com/2022/05/09/blms-patrisse-cullors-admits-using-6m-mansion-for-parties/

[EmpressAJ]

Of course all lives matter but that phrase was used to disregard blm movement as if to say the movement meant “ONLY Black Lives Matter!” Knowing good and fucking well that’s not what that movement meant. That all lives matter bs is only said to protest blm protest, which was telling black people your black ass will never matter . And that “blue lives matter” bs. It was ridiculous & sickening how much protesting was done towards blm. Which further proves how black Americans point on racism being very real and why that “all lives matter” phrase sounds racist.
I don’t hear people saying protect all lives when Asians where protesting with their protect Asian lives movement that gotten a bill to protect them in weeks. BLM was the largest civil rights movement in history and lasted months and no law was passed nationally after all that protect black lives. Which is beyond wild and disrespectful. People were expecting blacks to protest for everybody like they haven’t already been a helping hand for decades and saying “oh we protested blm” as if u were doing them a favor. Like Let’s not pretend that black Americans weren’t standing up for other minorities long before that national movement 🙄 so I’ll completely understand if black people decide they weren’t going to protest for anyone else until they are protected.

[DextroShade]

I must have missed it when the Asians were rioting for months and Burning, Looting, and Murdering while using donations from well-meaning idiots to buy themselves mansions.

[7Phoenix7]

I don't think it's racist to say all lives matter, because all lives should matter. But The thing is, let's not pretend that police brutality against blacks is non existent. Most don't know what it feels like to be scared for your life every time a cop pulls you over. Because they are already judging you by your skin color and not hesitant to shoot if you make any odd moves...

I also think it's stupid to protest blm while so many black men are killing each other due to "gang shit".

[DextroShade]

The amount of blacks killed by other blacks is orders of magnitude higher than the number killed by police.

[strateguy632]

obviously if you START filming AFTER TEH guy "was resisting arrest" the video seems to start like the cop attacked.

[goaded]

@DextroShade So is the number of whites killed by whites. The police are a tiny fraction of the population, and they're supposed to be upholding the law.

[noemiii]

I don’t support BLM, but to say ALM is not racist, but ignorant and insensitive. I think of it as a a cancer patient saying “fuck cancer” but someone instead saying “fuck all diseases” to draw attention away from the relevancy of the argument. People also want to say that saying “black lives matter” takes away from other peoples lives but does saying “fuck cancer” exclude anyone else’s disease? No it doesn’t. Oh, the ignorance.

If you don’t support it, just don’t support it. It’s that simple. To try and argue “all lives matter” is ignorant and I whole heartedly believe anyone who supports All Lives Matter lacks brain capacity. And I definitely don’t believe all lives matter. There are some people on this earth that if they didn’t exist, would make the world more tolerable.

[Anonymous]

No, it's just a d*** move. We all know all lives matter. But white privilege exists. Racism might not be as overt as it once was. But institutional racism still exists. Black lives matters was born for the glaring inequality that exists in things like the justice system.

So rather than say "all lives matter" why don't us white people not get knee-jerk offended because life is hard for everyone instead. But realize that we can call out institutional racism when we see it. That this is ALL OUR fight. Make the world a better place.

[sage2021]

Some people believe that disabled people don't matter and that's so wrong.💔

They didn't ask to be born, the choice was made by the parents. They need to realize this.

I'm sure if they could have made the decision to be disabled they wouldn't have chosen to live as a disabled person. They struggle with life more than any person that isn't disabled.

They are constantly picked on and harassed everywhere they go.

So you people that believe disabled people don't deserve to live and that decision is made from God NOT YOU. YOU PIECE OF SHIT - AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. I've seen it on this website. 💔

[Kelly6]

@sage2021
i totally agree with you, as a mom with disability thanks for speaking for me

[caitycat21]

Yes and no, in a vacuum obviously just saying everyone’s lives matter is not racist but saying all lives matter in response to someone saying Black Lives Matter in regards to the systemic injustices the black community faces in cases of violence propagated by police is arguably from a place of racism

[dynamicyandere]

Well, said. 🥂

[wiltingrosepetal]

In isolation no. I'll say it now: every human life matters, every person is priceless.
But going up and down a street chanting it? Yeah, your intention isn't innnocent. You are actively trying to devalue the protests of a disadvantaged group. Very insensitive

[NaultD]

THEY most annoying cunts to ever exist. Like the sibling "I'm not touching you" but actually evil racist people.

"My fellow American was executed by a state powered law enforcement being Judge jury and executioner and our rights are being destroyed on camera."

"How about all lives matter? And just get around another day in Americas statues quo.

[JacobJordan]

No it isn't but certain clowns will claim it is. Because they are desperate to be victims and have an axe to grind. @wolfcat87 is one of those. She is the typical extreme racist that posts news reports to try and prove the validity of her biases while simultaneously having a self proclaimed "million dollar life style" while also claiming she is a victim of racism. If you call her out on her hypocrisy she will pull the standard narcissistic response of immediately accusing you of being racist. In the event you prove her points wrong she will move the goalposts in an effort to make her self look right because she suffers from the single worst case of cognitive dissonance. She would rather whine about being a victim when every statistic under the sun proves that black people prey on black people 90+% of the time so in the tiny margin of 10% or less cases where it is someone else preying on them it amounts to single digit or even decimal level percentage of actual racism.

[mattissebfan5]

Why it's considered racist is it's not the statement itself but the fact that black people get racially discriminated more than white people black lives matter is for people to stop being racist and killing black people because of there skin colour so saying the statement all lives matter while true all lives do but it takes away important message of blm because I would say 90 percent of black people get racial abuse where most white people never get abuse

[DreamLife7]

It's the intent. People know all lives matter. But the term is used to devalue black voices. Blacks die and are incarcerated at a larger number for the same crime, less or wrongfully persecuted for a crime they did not do versus whites. The fact u can't comprehend that shows your privilege , small mind and lack of cultural awareness. Get out of the box instead of spending ur life coupled up in your room and friendless its weird

[DreamLife7]

@strateguy632 you sound ignorant and unsocialized. It's not my job to educate you. You need to get some friends it's obvious you don't have any because your brain isn't broad.

[DreamLife7]

@strateguy632 I don't care how you feel my opinion stands. Stop tagging me I'm not interested in your views

[andreasderjuengere]

This century has produced a bunch of ''softies''.

Oops - that must be considered ''racist'' as well, or at least ''unwoke''?

Fuck me sideways... but my own life matters, too.

And if one disagrees, then I don't feel ''offended'', but just shrug my shoulders.

[Kaamraj]

All lives do matter, but it's wrong to say it as a means to counter or dilute black lives matter. In my country I am part of a persecuted minority and I do at times feel or made to feel that my life is cheaper than the dominant community's.

[strateguy632]

but word "all" does not excluded. but picking any ONE minority leaves out all other minority and majority. blm is bad racism.

[Kaamraj]

@strateguy632 - I am speaking from my own experience as a member of such a minority outside the US who survived one genocide, most poeple who advocate for my community are genuinely concerned about our wellbeing and safety, yes some are racist chauvinists. If statistics show that a community is disproportionately victim of violence especially police violence then it should be addressed.

[Anonymous]

No its not racist, because all lives do matter, no matter what those on the Intersectional/Identitarian would have you believe. They are only using the "Black Lives Matter"as a means to push segregation onto Society through the back door, as can be seen in College/Universities, where this segregation is being pushed the hardest, no just along racial lines but those of sexuality/gender etc.

[SotiCoto]

No, but some people have to get competitive about everything and regard any attempt to dismiss competition as a personal attack.

That aside, there is a far better reason not to say it: Because it is wrong. Human lives are disposable garbage regardless of colour. No human matters.

[Joshydavid25]

Not at all.. It's the right thing to say.. "Black Lives Matter" only wants to use the killing of "Black" men solely by the police for a political agenda..

[shortster]

Nope, and yet some people seem to think that it is. Something about it being anti-BLM, which is an organization that supports the subjugation of white people, takes advantage of people who are against police brutality, and does nothing beyond enriching a handful of people in leadership roles and advancing the DNC ideology and candidates. So even if it is anti-BLM, that sounds like something in its favor.

[jshm2]

Yes, as yours clearly doesn't, and you think being a sarky bitch means others don't.

It's no different to saying "I'm not racist, I hate everybody"

[Kingofkings1992]

And what’s wrong with saying that, idiot?

[Miristheiss]

It is tired and lame.

7 years ago NO ONE went around having to declare whose lives mattered.

Just do not participate in this foolishness. You do not have to declare anyone's lives matter. Just live your life and be a good person.

[integrale77]

How can a statement of fact that does not lean towards one race or another be racist?

[Sour-rose]

I think it's quite the opposite. Of course, many will say yes because it takes the importance of black lives that have been sent to heaven. But in the end...🤷‍♀️

[DreamLife7]

How am I blacker than you yet you're black 😭🤣

[Sour-rose]

Maybe because my dad is British? Aaand... British blood? 😂

[Djaay]

Everyone's great , great , great , great grandmother on this planet ( was black.) Those who oppose this articulation knows nothing of human history.

[normalice]

It depends on context but in general people mean to be racist when they say it, yes.

[milyjohn]

Not at all.

[imfreeze95]

I never understood how you could build a movement. Based on the idea that “all lives matter once black lives matter” is racist it tells me that you think your race is so important that it needs to be front and center.

[blueonblack22]

“The only way to end racism is to quit talking about it.”

- Morgan Freeman

[HawkPerception]

It's not racist in the slightest and any that thinks it is needs to be in a mental institution.

[ItsMariusz]

I dont even understand how people can relate these words to racism.

[goaded]

Because it's a reaction to "Black Lives Matter", which was drawing attention to black people being killed disproportionately, thus intentionally diluting the message.

Nobody ever disputed that all lives matter, the problem was that black lives seem to matter less, and that's not good.

[ItsMariusz]

They "seem" to matter less you say... Our overall value of human life is garbage, no matter the race, and it should improve for all.
even though it's a reaction to BLM, I dont get why people are offended by it unless they're looking at it from a wrong pov. "All Lives Matter" is not really something you can disagree with, nor deny, but people get offended by it, mostly supporters of BLM because they think it somehow disrupts their message. In reality, it dosent, we should actually focus on ALL lives, not just black lives, or white lives, you get it. All "All Live Matter" does it simply add to black lives, but it still includes them, so I dont see the problem.

But I guess it's only western societies, I've travelled across the world and only saw it happening there.

[goaded]

I think you missed the word "intentionally".

[ItsMariusz]

Said what I wanted to say.

[Avicenna]

@goaded: Unsurprisingly, BLM turned out to be a bunch of crooked Marxist grifters pushing a lie. In the US, blacks disproportionately kill and commit other violent crimes against whites.

The idea that "black lives matter less" is leftist propaganda.

[goaded]

@Avicenna The idea of BLM and the video of George Floyd being murdered in slow motion turned out 25 million Americans. Do you think there are 25 million Marxists in the US?

Feel free to show me some real statistics, but include the proportions living in poverty.

[Avicenna]

@goaded: BLM is an group of organizations- billions (82 billion and counting) doesn't get donated to an "idea".

There could well be 25 million Marxists in the US (lots of Democrats are Marxists), but assuming your figure is accurate, that obviously doesn't mean that the people in the BLM riots were fully aware of what BLM is and that the heads of BLM illegally and greatly enriched themselves. BLM heads and organizers are in fact Marxists, which was my point (some boasted they were "trained Marxists).

And your attempt at a misdirect doesn't change the fact that BLM is a corrupt grift based upon a lie, the lie that blacks "die disproportionately in interracial violence'", one you are apparently happy to spread.

Do you consider yourself a Marxist, goaded?

[Kingofkings1992]

@goaded racism is the belief that your race is superior to other races. If a person chooses not to acknowledge the bullshit that comes from an organization like BLM , that doesn’t make them racist. Anyone with a lick of sense knows BLM is a deceitful group. They don’t care about black lives at all. The only time they care about a black life is when they have a fatal encounter with a police officer.

[goaded]

@Avicenna "82 billion and counting" Bullshit.

The lie is yours, of course. Who says blacks "die disproportionately in interracial violence"? You're just making up a definition that you can base more lies on.

"Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement that seeks to highlight racism, discrimination, and racial inequality experienced by black people, and promote anti-racism. Its primary concerns are incidents of police brutality and racially motivated violence against black people."

[Avicenna]

@goaded: You are a propagandist, who constantly comments on another country's affairs without having a clue what you're posting about.

And that's right, $82 billion and counting donated by corporate America. Real fiduciary responsibility right there.

Here's what you said, you liar:

"Because it's a reaction to "Black Lives Matter", which was drawing attention to black people being killed disproportionately, thus intentionally diluting the message.

Nobody ever disputed that all lives matter, the problem was that black lives seem to matter less, and that's not good."

You falsely claimed that "black people are beig killed disproportionately", which is beyond dishonest considering that when it comes to interracial homicides, it is in fact whites who die disproportionately and that the overwhelming majority of black murder victims (around 93%) are killed by other blacks. Given that, how do you conclude "black lives matter less"? To whom? BLM?

And that BLM movement you tout is full of people who hate Jews. Once again, we see you championing people who hate Jews and aren't afraid to make it clear that they do. Your BLM heroes celebrated Hamas's mass murder and mass rapes on 10/7 and BLM has been anti-Semitic from the start. You are happy to cynically go after political opponents for anti-Semitism while ignoring its most virulent and widespread source- your fellow Marxists.

[goaded]

@Avicenna You just saying it again isn't all that convincing. Try coming up with some evidence. It'll show that there's no single organisation that's received that money, and that the corporations never sent most of it anywhere. (Links to actual facts about your lie at the end.)

Yes, "black people are being killed disproportionately", when they make up 13% of the population and more than half the murder victims.



Do their lives only matter if they're killed by white people? (Most people are killed by people of the same race because most people live around other people of the same race.)

Then you finish off with a bunch of lies about what I supposedly believe and who I supposedly support, apparently believing I have to support the most extreme beliefs, just because you do. But I'm somehow the propagandist.

www.thedailybeast.com/debunking-claremont-institutes-lie-that-black-lives-matter-got-dollar82-billion-from-corporations
talkingpointsmemo.com/.../a-quick-look-at-the-lying-trumpist-liars-behind-that-database-on-corprate-giving-to-blm

[PeachyPie93]

It isn't racist but it is insensitive and shows how self centred and blind they really are.

[Jersey2]

BLM was a money scam and some girl lost her life for saying all lives matter. It was a scam, dummies. What a bunch of ignorant morons.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Their leaders sure bought a lot of mansions in white neighborhoods with that charity money...

[findacure4wokeness]

I hope this video will help those career victims on GAG.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/lpjcdZpXrnk

[Tomisworthless]

Black Lives Matter is just a communist agenda to divide the United States internally. Nobody ever thought black lives don’t matter not even the most racist person alive, slave masters valued their slaves.

[wolfcat87]

Slave masters killed slaves as well as regularly worked them to death. The average lifespan of a new slave was only 5 years from the time they arrived in the U. S. They valued them like a rancher today values a cow, the cow still dies horrifically and very early.

[Tomisworthless]

@wolfcat87 blacks owned slaves to so is that proportionate to how you guys kill each other still through gun violence or selling of narcotics to your own community for wealth?

[wolfcat87]

A few blacks owned slaves, but the vast majority didn't. Out of the ones that did, they were reported to treat their slaves better since they actually saw them as humans instead of animals. Much like when whites owned whited they treated them better as well. Unlike white slave owners who saw blacks and livestock.

You mean like Hell's Angels selling meth to the whites in my area and trafficking women? Or, what about the white mafias that are doing the same with such infamously high murder rates that bodies are being discovered in droves as lakes are drying up? What's your point, because both are irrelevant in a discussion on racism or slavery. Learn how to stay on topic, and simply admit when you're wrong when someone points it out so you can learn and grow.

Weak attempt at a red herring to deflect from the easily verified facts pointed out...

[Tomisworthless]

@wolfcat87 just as a few whites owned slaves and the majority didn’t

[wolfcat87]

Agreed on that point. So, the issue isn't really how many but the severity of treatment. One type valued their slaves more than the other.

[Tomisworthless]

@wolfcat87 ultimately it doesn’t matter because nobody ever thought black lives don’t matter, it was just a political communist agenda pushed to mobilize the left wing and further divide this nation on race.

[wolfcat87]

If you look under my answer, there are many studies proving otherwise. Not to mention, the mass killing of blacks clearly prove that people did believe black lives didn't matter. The only agenda was keeping them down and profiting from it. There's no disproving or arguing that, and it's very much related to capitalism not communism.

[Sabretooth]

yes. it's a cheap way of trying to maintain the moral high ground. racism is the bread and butter for conservatives but, so is ''Christianity'' demanding them to walk a rather weak tightrope.

[AngryCarl]

That depends on the context. If you say it because you object to the term "Black Lives Matter", THEN it's racist.

[DextroShade]

The only people who have a problem with saying this are the woke scum who support the scam/terrorist organization Black Lives Matter.

[ODC2112]

No, it is deeply racist to say that only a kind of life matters.

[Guanfei]

No. And anyone saying that is just basically saying only black lives matters.
A'd he's probably a racist just trying to justify being racist.

[RedInnocent68]

Not necessarily. But it is stupid, and kind of misses the point… 😒

[genericname85]

not racist but simply untrue. no lives matter.

[Djaay]

Till you re-matter through transformation into GODS spirit (born again ) what's makes you actually think you really matter anyhow?

[Enginn]

No why would it be? Racist is when you put one race over the other.

[wolfcat87]

Because it's like trying to teach about black suffering during slavery or Jim Crow and trying to make every lesson about how whites suffered equally. But, they didn't. It's intentionally drowning out the suffering of a persecuted minority just to avoid dealing with the issues.

[Anonymous]

It's not racist, and I'm glad those of us with a brain voted the same.

[likeodds]

Not at all. God has created this world with diversity

[Anonymous]

Of course not. The people who claim it is are delusions fuckwads.

[sawno]

Its racist to consider it racist.

[purplepoppy]

It only seems to be racist people who say it.

[QuietRunner]

I mean doctors, nurses, firefighters think so

I hope they aren't racist

[Dargil]

Or worse, Babies' loves matter?

[AviatorTom]

Some people think it is, I don't.

[OddBeMe]

Yes because you’re pulling focus from BLM.

[gorydetails]

Not the least bit racist.

[KostasKouvalis]

Sounds pretty inclusive to me

[Sasahara]

Nope, it not racist.

[Ladyblanche]

No. I do it consistently

[Surely]

Only racist to racist people!

[Vegasrunner]

Lol, obviously.

[Anonymous]

No, but liberals will sure think so.

[Anonymous]

No, it's just stupid.

[Kingofkings1992]

No lives matter

[Kelly6]

not racist

[Anonymous]

White lives matter!