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All lives matter was created because people hate black people are asking for our lives to matter.
Anytime we bring up anything that shows there is a possibility of racism, we are verbally attacked as a way to silence us.
We take a knee for injustice and are called traitors to our country and offensive to the American flag while the same people claiming this flies a flag that represented succeeding from this country.
I was just attacked verbally and personally attacked today because i didn't accept a lie being spewed by a couple of white supremacist who hoped to cause outrage about a request to change the education system that would include a curriculum that would include a more inclusive curriculum.
So yeah people can claim what they want, our lives don't matter, because we do not get included in most things that can better our way of life and when we are included it is met with outrage
"Anytime we bring up anything that shows there is a possibility of racism, we are verbally attacked as a way to silence us."
says the folks who burn down cities, attack cops and others who disagree with them. if you really did believe your lives matter so much then you all would of stop murdering each other in the ghetto and getting abortions left to right
You’re absolutely correct but rip to your notifications because you’re probably gnna be spammed by ignorant racists
actually he is incorrect; black people are under represented in police violence and studies show police actually hesitate longer to shoot a black person than a white person
This study debunks the claim that black people are killed at disproportionate rates. Yes it starts out accepting that in raw numbers black people are killed at a higher rate than their % of the population would suggest is reasonable but once you adjust for violent crime rates and rates of resisting to arrest they are actually underrepresented in police use of lethal force scholar.harvard.edu/.../empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
for those of you who say that the % of blacks stopped and killed is higher than their % of the population this is not a sign of discrimination. Black men commit 52% of all murders www.channel4.com/.../factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime it is inevitable that they need more policing as they do more crime.
The doj found that white, black and Hispanic drivers are stopped at the same rate https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=432
infact studies show police hesitate longer to shoot black people www.researchgate.net/.../290437363_The_Reverse_Racism_Effect_Are_Cops_More_Hesitant_to_Shoot_Black_Than_White_Suspects
Polls show blacks and whites are equally favorable to their local police www.monmouth.edu/.../
That is idiotically stupid. If all lives matter, that means black lives also matter along with all lives i. e. every single group, every single ethnicity, every single race, every individuals life matters. So at no point is that racist and you have to be really stupid to believe that statement as it is literally the exact opposite of racist. Its like claiming that we should treat every one equally regardless of race is racist, its just a moronically stupid thing to claim.
Second, black lives matter does state that other lives don't matter because you have not only excluded other groups from that phrase, you are actively punishing any one who says all lives matter and in some cases having black lives matter activists KILL people who say all lives matter (among many other racist and discriminatory practices). So yes, they are using it to discriminate against non blacks.
Three, black lives matter to every one but blacks as 95% of all blacks killed are killed by other blacks yet the black community refuses to acknowledge this and when some one points it out they claim every one else is racist for saying it, that none of us are allowed to talk about it, or try to claim that every group is more likely to kill each other so it doesn't count even though over half of all murders in this country are commited by blacks and its against other blacks despite them being only 13% of the population (i. e. violence crime and murderes are commited by blacks against other blacks at an overwhelmingly larger rate then any other group).
Four, you have less then 20 blacks killed per year by police so claiming this is an epidemic, even ignoring that in almost every single case the person in question was commiting a crime and the shooting was justified, is just intentionally manipulative and misleading. On average you have about 56,300 police interactions per year. Out of those only.002% end in a fatality. Out of those only 4% are questionable. Out of those 60% are whites who where killed. Out of the 40% that where minorities, the majority of them where killed by minority officers (who are more likely to open fire on a minority suspect then white officers). So the premise of the organization is also entirely fabricated along with being over stated to teh extreme, politically motivated, and racist.
The term means: who is anybody to play God about which so-called race is deserving over the other? Do you know God is not caring about this foolishness? He cares about the SOUL. He cares about human life. All lives do MATTER. Because the term "Black Lives Matter" is showing that Black only matters. This only matters. No, EVERYBODY matters. Every time a life is LOSS, I don't care if your so-called Atheist, White, Black, Asian, a Transit Worker, Sanitation, Teacher, man, woman, or child. Every person that God created on this earth MATTERS. Even animals matter. Nature matures.
Enough is ENOUGH. There is only 1 race and that is the HUMAN RACE. Unless your not human, your a race of people and a species. It doesn't matter how many more deaths than the other. It matters because it says something is wrong. But any life matters. And those who are supporting that movement without fully understanding what they're saying and is, are saying they're selfish. And every person who wants to assume all "black" people are descendants of slaves really needs to double-check themselves. Even more, they need to stop carrying that not just genetically but mentality-wise. There will always be somebody who wants to be prejudice, racist, etc towards you. But you do NOT have to have a label or accept anything you do not want to accept. Once you have that "slave" mentality, your enslaving yourself and hurting others with it.
A lot of you people don't even believe in God. And then you have that Black Hebrew Israelite nonsense and that is even worse. You're spreading the same hatred and wickedness no different than those who have any kind of supremacy. There is White, Black, German, Japanese, Chinese, anything supremacy. Anything that goes against the natural order of God is supremacy. Don't you get it? I don't care if your KKK, I don't care your Nazi, I don't care if you are the Pharoah, I don't care if you're the Emperor, I don't care if you from the Kingdom of Europe, The Pope, BLM, Pharisees, and Sadducees, I don't care if your ISIS, or whatever you have going on. If you are NOT of GOD, If you are not for GOD, you are all the SAME.
You people better educate YOURSELVES. Because time in this world is running OUT, folks. I am more concerned about people's salvation while you all fight each other spilling blood. And can't even see that you have to answer for your sins.
I hardly doubt anybody fully understands what they are saying when they support BLM. I notice practically everybody who has that reparations stuff going on are people who are not just selfish, they hate themselves. Everybody down here in any system that isn't of God is a slave system. Your a slave being a worker for 9-5. You're a slave at school. You act like a slave at home. The moment you are born, you have a SS# attached to your name and certificate. Does anybody wonder about that number? Anybody can have your name. But lose your number, your nobody down here. Therefore you are still a slave. Black and white included. Your in a system, and your fighting each other. How smart is that.
actually its fake that black men are killed at a rate 3x higher than whites. the entire black lives matter movement is built on lies
This study debunks the claim that black people are killed at disproportionate rates. Yes it starts out accepting that in raw numbers black people are killed at a higher rate than their % of the population would suggest is reasonable but once you adjust for violent crime rates and rates of resisting to arrest they are actually underrepresented in police use of lethal force https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
for those of you who say that the % of blacks stopped and killed is higher than their % of the population this is not a sign of discrimination. Black men commit 52% of all murders https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime it is inevitable that they need more policing as they do more crime.
The doj found that white, black and Hispanic drivers are stopped at the same rate https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=432
infact studies show police hesitate longer to shoot black people https://www.researchgate.net/publication/290437363_The_Reverse_Racism_Effect_Are_Cops_More_Hesitant_to_Shoot_Black_Than_White_Suspects
Polls show blacks and whites are equally favorable to their local police https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_us_060220.pdf/
Black Lives Matter is a shitty hate movement for people too stupid to separate an idea (treat people with respect) from an extremist ideology too hypocritical to not be racist itself.
Add to the fact that no one kills or holds back black people than other black people, and the fact that BLM has *quite literally* killed more black people with its existence than had it never been a thing, and it really makes me wonder how human beings can lack this much intelligence and common sense.
ALSO the fact that if America "is so racist," why the fuck you asking niggas to "join your cause." Even the fuckin' Black Panthers didn't do that! Which means every BLM asshole can't even live by the shitty racist principles they pretend they have now, but never said SHIT about it before George Floyd or Trevyon Martin. But adding a fucking hashtag to your Twitter bio makes you on par with MLK and shit. Fucking pathetic.
Again, you don't need to join a shitty hate movement just because you're insecure and hate yourself and want to blame all your problems on Whitey/Trump/AmeriKKKa/some other bullshit other than yourself. I mean, it's not that fucking hard to move back to Africa. Why the fuck you niggas still in the US if you hate it so much? Not that Africans even respect you. Real Africans don't even respect African Americans, for the most part. But yeah, "AmeriKKKa" is the problem here, and not losers being losers and manning the fuck up.
It's a stupid shitty movement for stupid shitty people. And I'm black, with a Hard-R Card and all, not that it fuckin' matters. You're not going to get people to join your side while calling them "complicit in racism" and all other kinds of shit. Even children know you don't spit in someone's face, then tell them to be your best friend.
No, doesn't sound racist, it sounds inclusive. I see how it's a slap in the face to the persective that some have, and why they react badly to it. As you noted, black people feel singled out and like they are being targeted and abused. That's where things break down, people see the root issues and scenarios differently.
It's a frustrating relationship isn't it? The whole thing is like a bad marriage that needs counseling. In such scenarios, the solution is for both sides to look at themselves, identify the changes needed and then work on themselvers. IWhat usually happens is both sides point fingers to the other side and tell them to change! And that is what's been going on.
If BLM slogan gets the disenfranchined to a better place, then I'm fine with it. To me, it just isolates them more and does not look effective. May even cause more chaos.
To really be effective, we have to deal with both sides of the relationship breakdown, what's going wrong, what needs changed, etc..
I see black people on the other side of this. I do not think the problem is a color issue, but a culture issue. It somewhat divides on political lines. Thus, it may be more related to how people perceive, family background, training.
I don't see "black people" getting killed by white cops. I do see black people getting killed. Lets diagnose why that happens and find solutions. Find the root causes, just like in engineering.
black lives already matter as much as anyone else. run colin powell or Shaq. fully black president won't help, whatever that means to you. agree with other points. ignore the distractions and focus on goals... business, careers, build families, community, good citizenship, character development, discipline. Do that, problem goes away. Can't change others perception, but can change self. That's what other cultures that are thriving are doing.
I feel like it's mostly context. They could both be used in the same way, if addressing something/one who is discriminating against black people. "Black lives matter" says they shouldn't be discriminated against. "All lives matter" says black lives (the lives under attack) shouldn't be discriminated against. "All lives matter" just has more possible uses, as it can be used toward any instance of any race being attacked to call attention to the problem.
If it's addressing someone speaking out against discrimination against black people, then it seems kinda retarded, because they know that all lives matter that's why they're against discrimination against black lives. Telling them "all lives matter" would only make any sense if they were attacking some other race while also calling for black lives to not be discriminated against. And even so, that's sorta a deflationary way to address them, as it ignores the initial problem with black people and shifts focus to only the other race of people discriminated against, even though BOTH problems would need to be addressed.
So it's racist to NOT discriminate based on race? The number of white male homicide victims in 2019 (I don't have statistics for last year) is 4,026. Black male homicide victims numbered 6,446. You're hardly in a position tell people they're uneducated if you can't understand such complex ideas as "3".
Now you assert that black people are being killed disproportionately, which is true. But 93 percent of them are killed by other black people; if we're operating under a social scheme of "white supremacy", why is that number not significantly higher? Is this an issue of force- is there some evil cabal of white people forcing black man into gladiator fights? Or does it stem from the other direction; that black people- black men, in particular- feel their lives are meaningless because they're not white? I could totally see getting that message, but that's an issue that needs to be fixed with a building up of black culture and society, not bitching about what white people say on social media.
I'm guessing you are in the US and I'm in the UK and the BLM movement has naturally imported over here to and rightly so but the American ideals of it have imported to. We have a different set problems in the UK. If you look at UK crime reports, police complains, etc the most dangerous thing in the UK to young black people is other young black people, stabbings, gun and gang crime. I'm not saying you will not come across a racist police officer, or official of some kind, that would be silly to say, but we have a different set of problems than the US.
In a more direct answer to your question "all lives matter" is not inherently racist, as it is infact a statement of truth all lives do matter. Saying all lives matter as an answer to someone stating BLM I'd have to say isn't racist either, it isn't a slur or derogatory to coloured people or referencing or making fun of there historical or current treatment etc so it cannot be racist.
It is however ignorant of what BLM are trying to do and raise awareness off, but it is possible to be ignorant of their cause and not racist, and to claim that someone who is mearly ignorant is actually racist is nothing but damaging to BLM cause reinforcing some peoples fear that you cannot speak freely when race is involved without being labeled a racist.
Yea, black men are also killed 100101010101 times more by (black) gang members. You seriously gonna sit here and say that police account for anything close to the black on black crime? Even if all the racist murder towards blacks combined, cops, KKK, aryan brotherhood, it wouldn’t even come CLOSE to the number of blacks killed by blacks, why isn’t that an issue? BLM don’t they? black lives clearly only matter when racisms involved cause in the time it took me to write this response 50 or more black men probably just got shot or murdered by another black man. Blacks people just love to complain, about EVERYTHING, pulled over for speeding? Cops racist, someone looks at me in a store? They think I’m stealing they’re racist, they don’t agree with absolutely EVERYTHING I say? Racist, you’ll probably call me racist for calling your bullshit, sure racism kills blacks, but not NEARLY as much as gang violence and drug dealing, I don’t see BLM marching the streets of chiraq preaching how their lives matter in O BLOCK where all the gangsters are at murdering each other? Oh right, that’s not racism, so it doesn’t count. The entire movements a joke, all they’ll be remembered for will be rioting and robbing innocent people blind, but I’m sure there will be no shortage of sensitive little women pussies like you out there crying about racism, while the majority of murders are within your own race LMFAO
"Black men are being killed at a rate 3x higher than white men."
I assume you are talking about black men being killed by police, and if so, you are wrong. In fact, black men are killed by police at a slightly lower rate than other men, but you have been lied to and you chose to believe the lie rather than do a little research and educate yourself on the facts. The only people killing black men at a higher rate are black men themselves.
The fact is American's are just getting sick of blacks playing the victim rather than owning their shit and trying to solve their problems. Most of the issues black Americans face today are of their own making. It is black culture that is the problem, not society. No one else can solve those problems for you. You are your own worst enemy, and the longer you continue to point the finger at others, the longer you focus on the wrong things and don't solve the real problems in the black community. And at the same time what you are doing is undermining respect for blacks and just fanning the flames of racism.
i upvoted you, and here are all the statistics to support your claims
This study debunks the claim that black people are killed at disproportionate rates. Yes it starts out accepting that in raw numbers black people are killed at a higher rate than their % of the population would suggest is reasonable but once you adjust for violent crime rates and rates of resisting to arrest they are actually underrepresented in police use of lethal force scholar.harvard.edu/.../empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
for those of you who say that the % of blacks stopped and killed is higher than their % of the population this is not a sign of discrimination. Black men commit 52% of all murders www.channel4.com/.../factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime it is inevitable that they need more policing as they do more crime.
The doj found that white, black and Hispanic drivers are stopped at the same rate https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=432
infact studies show police hesitate longer to shoot black people www.researchgate.net/.../290437363_The_Reverse_Racism_Effect_Are_Cops_More_Hesitant_to_Shoot_Black_Than_White_Suspects
Polls show blacks and whites are equally favorable to their local police www.monmouth.edu/.../
ALL lives matter.
Blue. Lives (police) an black lives.
Guess what. White lives matter.
All lives do.
BLM. Is just another violent mob that has been hijacked by sjws and antifa.
I belive in justice and equal treatment under the law for any man irrespective of his race or gender. Or political ideas or orientation or whatever. Because in this land. We are equal and free, and deserve to be treated like it.
The system us fucking broken, we can fix it
Racial tension will go away when people stop putting a color in from of who's life matter and realize we're all people. Just people.
I dont trwat blacks like victims and I don't excuse racism.
Whites and blacks uniting against the system and its shit is what they fear most.
Blm yes they do always did.
My friend tells me the movement stands for equal justice and is a revolt against racist police policy.
Ok. But that isn't the cut and dry of it.
After so many people have been hurt in the name of blm.
In a vacuum, “All Lives Matter” is a perfectly fine sentiment. The problem is that when it’s said, it’s said in response to “Black Lives Matter”, which is essentially saying “Shut up, nobody wants to hear it” to the entire movement, even at its most basic and innocent level, before anyone even gets into trying to spin it into a Marxist thing. Best thing BLM could do is rebrand as “Black Lives Matter TOO”, and then there’s no cloaking of ignorant sentiments, you have to say flat out “no, black lives DO NOT also matter” and completely own your bigotry, and then we all know where everyone stands and we can react accordingly as we individually see fit. Honestly, the most offensive thing to me about “All Lives Matter” is that you must think the person you’re talking to is an absolute moron to think they’d take that kindly.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/s6MVjwnNIg4
I don't disagree that black men a possibly being killed more than white men but it's more blacks killing blacks than anything else. Yes there is still racism going on today and it's something that needs to stop but it needs to be handled in a different way. You can't fight racism by rioting. If you put that energy into creating safe ways for different neighborhoods to get together to help each other help others or fix each other's neighborhoods up or do sit downs with certain youths and certain elders of each other's communities so we can learn from each other or something that's going to create good feelings instead of negative feelings.
All Lives Matter is not racist just because you think it is. There is nothing racist about saying everyone matters, That makes no sense.
I understand what you are saying. Obviously, all lives don't matter if black lives don't matter, but that goes for the rest as well. Black lives have always mattered. Just because there are cruel people in this world doesn't mean they don't. Blacks are a great contributor to blacks being killed at a higher rate because they kill each other, a lot. This country isn't anti-black, but I know that does not mean there are no white supremist, being that our former president used every opportunity to insult every other race but his own.
Saying "Black lives matter" creates an exclusion of white people.
This only turns the situation in the opposite direction.
The problem is not a racial one, it is one of justice and corruption. The fact that the police do not treat all people equally, both white and black, is a serious mistake of the American justice system.
The law must be applied equally, if a black person needs to be beaten in order to be arrested, the same must be done with whites. If the justice system arrests innocent people, in which there are more black people, it is the fault of the government and leadership system.
As far as I know, both black and white people have the same rights in the United States today.
If that's the case then stand up for other social issues as well if you want all the support without being hated or something. I don't see BLM protesters standing up for anything other than black people.
So to elaborate my point, you can try to rationally help other opressed or any social group which society thinks need real help (like poor homeless people). Then it might be easy to surpass the image BLM protesters have made in front of the whole world. You really need to get rid of that fake support as well.
I think blm is wrong for not bringing awarness to the issue in the native American community as well
And yes I know that they represent black people but if they have a huge following why don't they speak up for natives as well?
Do you know almost every Native American woman or girl is sexually harassed or even raped
by non Native American men so native guys aren't the issue
Almost in half of the cases there is no justice
And many Native American girls are kidnapped and dissapear
#nativelivesmatter
Nonsense. The statement “all lives matter” is true, Black Lives Matter is simply a more focused form to shine a light on a group in particular. But for practicality speaking, the USA has more than just Black people that can be considered oppressed, but don’t have an “all lives matter” attached to it. For instance, native Americans on reservations are routinely stricken with poverty, a higher than average sexual assault rate and are brutalized by police as well. That shit doesn’t even make the news.
So whilst I understand where you’re coming from, I disagree with focusing on just one group when I could promote the worth of everyone at once.
First off saying all lives matter isn't bad because first off black people to me need to realize there own worth and value to themselves not just to others. 2nd black own things aren't gonna help the black community if all these black men keep going to jail for major crimes. 3rd i don't believe all lives matter was solely base on racism and the fact that BLM just came around when it did. However i do believe that some do have that opinion and those guys are pieces of shit. As for the black president, we already had that, if you want black people to start doing better than you need to tell them or show them that the path of crime isn't worth it, because that's where a majority of black people go and is it there fault, some what yes and some what no. I personally blame the parents but yea
You cannot say something is a fact when it is about definition of words. It is semantics. You see it one way, other people can read it differently. Being a racist is not about that. You cannot tell from one sentence if it is racist, depends on who says it and how they feel, in what contexts and so on. Educate yourself.
I agree that there is systematic racism in society. But that has nothing to do with 'all lives matter'. I would personally say that sentence because for me it is logical that 'black lives' are included in 'all lives'.
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