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All lives matter was created because people hate black people are asking for our lives to matter.
Anytime we bring up anything that shows there is a possibility of racism, we are verbally attacked as a way to silence us.
We take a knee for injustice and are called traitors to our country and offensive to the American flag while the same people claiming this flies a flag that represented succeeding from this country.
I was just attacked verbally and personally attacked today because i didn't accept a lie being spewed by a couple of white supremacist who hoped to cause outrage about a request to change the education system that would include a curriculum that would include a more inclusive curriculum.
So yeah people can claim what they want, our lives don't matter, because we do not get included in most things that can better our way of life and when we are included it is met with outrage
"Anytime we bring up anything that shows there is a possibility of racism, we are verbally attacked as a way to silence us."
says the folks who burn down cities, attack cops and others who disagree with them. if you really did believe your lives matter so much then you all would of stop murdering each other in the ghetto and getting abortions left to right
You’re absolutely correct but rip to your notifications because you’re probably gnna be spammed by ignorant racists
actually he is incorrect; black people are under represented in police violence and studies show police actually hesitate longer to shoot a black person than a white person
This study debunks the claim that black people are killed at disproportionate rates. Yes it starts out accepting that in raw numbers black people are killed at a higher rate than their % of the population would suggest is reasonable but once you adjust for violent crime rates and rates of resisting to arrest they are actually underrepresented in police use of lethal force scholar.harvard.edu/.../empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
for those of you who say that the % of blacks stopped and killed is higher than their % of the population this is not a sign of discrimination. Black men commit 52% of all murders www.channel4.com/.../factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime it is inevitable that they need more policing as they do more crime.
The doj found that white, black and Hispanic drivers are stopped at the same rate https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=432
infact studies show police hesitate longer to shoot black people www.researchgate.net/.../290437363_The_Reverse_Racism_Effect_Are_Cops_More_Hesitant_to_Shoot_Black_Than_White_Suspects
Polls show blacks and whites are equally favorable to their local police www.monmouth.edu/.../
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That is idiotically stupid. If all lives matter, that means black lives also matter along with all lives i. e. every single group, every single ethnicity, every single race, every individuals life matters. So at no point is that racist and you have to be really stupid to believe that statement as it is literally the exact opposite of racist. Its like claiming that we should treat every one equally regardless of race is racist, its just a moronically stupid thing to claim.
Second, black lives matter does state that other lives don't matter because you have not only excluded other groups from that phrase, you are actively punishing any one who says all lives matter and in some cases having black lives matter activists KILL people who say all lives matter (among many other racist and discriminatory practices). So yes, they are using it to discriminate against non blacks.
Three, black lives matter to every one but blacks as 95% of all blacks killed are killed by other blacks yet the black community refuses to acknowledge this and when some one points it out they claim every one else is racist for saying it, that none of us are allowed to talk about it, or try to claim that every group is more likely to kill each other so it doesn't count even though over half of all murders in this country are commited by blacks and its against other blacks despite them being only 13% of the population (i. e. violence crime and murderes are commited by blacks against other blacks at an overwhelmingly larger rate then any other group).
Four, you have less then 20 blacks killed per year by police so claiming this is an epidemic, even ignoring that in almost every single case the person in question was commiting a crime and the shooting was justified, is just intentionally manipulative and misleading. On average you have about 56,300 police interactions per year. Out of those only.002% end in a fatality. Out of those only 4% are questionable. Out of those 60% are whites who where killed. Out of the 40% that where minorities, the majority of them where killed by minority officers (who are more likely to open fire on a minority suspect then white officers). So the premise of the organization is also entirely fabricated along with being over stated to teh extreme, politically motivated, and racist.
The term means: who is anybody to play God about which so-called race is deserving over the other? Do you know God is not caring about this foolishness? He cares about the SOUL. He cares about human life. All lives do MATTER. Because the term "Black Lives Matter" is showing that Black only matters. This only matters. No, EVERYBODY matters. Every time a life is LOSS, I don't care if your so-called Atheist, White, Black, Asian, a Transit Worker, Sanitation, Teacher, man, woman, or child. Every person that God created on this earth MATTERS. Even animals matter. Nature matures.
Enough is ENOUGH. There is only 1 race and that is the HUMAN RACE. Unless your not human, your a race of people and a species. It doesn't matter how many more deaths than the other. It matters because it says something is wrong. But any life matters. And those who are supporting that movement without fully understanding what they're saying and is, are saying they're selfish. And every person who wants to assume all "black" people are descendants of slaves really needs to double-check themselves. Even more, they need to stop carrying that not just genetically but mentality-wise. There will always be somebody who wants to be prejudice, racist, etc towards you. But you do NOT have to have a label or accept anything you do not want to accept. Once you have that "slave" mentality, your enslaving yourself and hurting others with it.
A lot of you people don't even believe in God. And then you have that Black Hebrew Israelite nonsense and that is even worse. You're spreading the same hatred and wickedness no different than those who have any kind of supremacy. There is White, Black, German, Japanese, Chinese, anything supremacy. Anything that goes against the natural order of God is supremacy. Don't you get it? I don't care if your KKK, I don't care your Nazi, I don't care if you are the Pharoah, I don't care if you're the Emperor, I don't care if you from the Kingdom of Europe, The Pope, BLM, Pharisees, and Sadducees, I don't care if your ISIS, or whatever you have going on. If you are NOT of GOD, If you are not for GOD, you are all the SAME.
You people better educate YOURSELVES. Because time in this world is running OUT, folks. I am more concerned about people's salvation while you all fight each other spilling blood. And can't even see that you have to answer for your sins.
I hardly doubt anybody fully understands what they are saying when they support BLM. I notice practically everybody who has that reparations stuff going on are people who are not just selfish, they hate themselves. Everybody down here in any system that isn't of God is a slave system. Your a slave being a worker for 9-5. You're a slave at school. You act like a slave at home. The moment you are born, you have a SS# attached to your name and certificate. Does anybody wonder about that number? Anybody can have your name. But lose your number, your nobody down here. Therefore you are still a slave. Black and white included. Your in a system, and your fighting each other. How smart is that.
Asker, no we don't. And you're blind to see this. If you don't love yourself your only adding more problems. I don't need to see all of that to know that I have worth and purpose God shows that to us every day. When are you people going to listen? Trust in man, man will fail you every time.
actually its fake that black men are killed at a rate 3x higher than whites. the entire black lives matter movement is built on lies
This study debunks the claim that black people are killed at disproportionate rates. Yes it starts out accepting that in raw numbers black people are killed at a higher rate than their % of the population would suggest is reasonable but once you adjust for violent crime rates and rates of resisting to arrest they are actually underrepresented in police use of lethal force https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
for those of you who say that the % of blacks stopped and killed is higher than their % of the population this is not a sign of discrimination. Black men commit 52% of all murders https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime it is inevitable that they need more policing as they do more crime.
The doj found that white, black and Hispanic drivers are stopped at the same rate https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=432
infact studies show police hesitate longer to shoot black people https://www.researchgate.net/publication/290437363_The_Reverse_Racism_Effect_Are_Cops_More_Hesitant_to_Shoot_Black_Than_White_Suspects
Polls show blacks and whites are equally favorable to their local police https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_us_060220.pdf/
So it's racist to NOT discriminate based on race? The number of white male homicide victims in 2019 (I don't have statistics for last year) is 4,026. Black male homicide victims numbered 6,446. You're hardly in a position tell people they're uneducated if you can't understand such complex ideas as "3".
Now you assert that black people are being killed disproportionately, which is true. But 93 percent of them are killed by other black people; if we're operating under a social scheme of "white supremacy", why is that number not significantly higher? Is this an issue of force- is there some evil cabal of white people forcing black man into gladiator fights? Or does it stem from the other direction; that black people- black men, in particular- feel their lives are meaningless because they're not white? I could totally see getting that message, but that's an issue that needs to be fixed with a building up of black culture and society, not bitching about what white people say on social media.
Black Lives Matter is a shitty hate movement for people too stupid to separate an idea (treat people with respect) from an extremist ideology too hypocritical to not be racist itself.
Add to the fact that no one kills or holds back black people than other black people, and the fact that BLM has *quite literally* killed more black people with its existence than had it never been a thing, and it really makes me wonder how human beings can lack this much intelligence and common sense.
ALSO the fact that if America "is so racist," why the fuck you asking niggas to "join your cause." Even the fuckin' Black Panthers didn't do that! Which means every BLM asshole can't even live by the shitty racist principles they pretend they have now, but never said SHIT about it before George Floyd or Trevyon Martin. But adding a fucking hashtag to your Twitter bio makes you on par with MLK and shit. Fucking pathetic.
Again, you don't need to join a shitty hate movement just because you're insecure and hate yourself and want to blame all your problems on Whitey/Trump/AmeriKKKa/some other bullshit other than yourself. I mean, it's not that fucking hard to move back to Africa. Why the fuck you niggas still in the US if you hate it so much? Not that Africans even respect you. Real Africans don't even respect African Americans, for the most part. But yeah, "AmeriKKKa" is the problem here, and not losers being losers and manning the fuck up.
It's a stupid shitty movement for stupid shitty people. And I'm black, with a Hard-R Card and all, not that it fuckin' matters. You're not going to get people to join your side while calling them "complicit in racism" and all other kinds of shit. Even children know you don't spit in someone's face, then tell them to be your best friend.
ALL lives matter.
Blue. Lives (police) an black lives.
Guess what. White lives matter.
All lives do.
BLM. Is just another violent mob that has been hijacked by sjws and antifa.
I belive in justice and equal treatment under the law for any man irrespective of his race or gender. Or political ideas or orientation or whatever. Because in this land. We are equal and free, and deserve to be treated like it.
The system us fucking broken, we can fix it
Racial tension will go away when people stop putting a color in from of who's life matter and realize we're all people. Just people.
I dont trwat blacks like victims and I don't excuse racism.
Whites and blacks uniting against the system and its shit is what they fear most.
Blm yes they do always did.
My friend tells me the movement stands for equal justice and is a revolt against racist police policy.
Ok. But that isn't the cut and dry of it.
After so many people have been hurt in the name of blm.
No, doesn't sound racist, it sounds inclusive. I see how it's a slap in the face to the persective that some have, and why they react badly to it. As you noted, black people feel singled out and like they are being targeted and abused. That's where things break down, people see the root issues and scenarios differently.
It's a frustrating relationship isn't it? The whole thing is like a bad marriage that needs counseling. In such scenarios, the solution is for both sides to look at themselves, identify the changes needed and then work on themselvers. IWhat usually happens is both sides point fingers to the other side and tell them to change! And that is what's been going on.
If BLM slogan gets the disenfranchined to a better place, then I'm fine with it. To me, it just isolates them more and does not look effective. May even cause more chaos.
To really be effective, we have to deal with both sides of the relationship breakdown, what's going wrong, what needs changed, etc..
I see black people on the other side of this. I do not think the problem is a color issue, but a culture issue. It somewhat divides on political lines. Thus, it may be more related to how people perceive, family background, training.
I don't see "black people" getting killed by white cops. I do see black people getting killed. Lets diagnose why that happens and find solutions. Find the root causes, just like in engineering.
black lives already matter as much as anyone else. run colin powell or Shaq. fully black president won't help, whatever that means to you. agree with other points. ignore the distractions and focus on goals... business, careers, build families, community, good citizenship, character development, discipline. Do that, problem goes away. Can't change others perception, but can change self. That's what other cultures that are thriving are doing.
I feel like it's mostly context. They could both be used in the same way, if addressing something/one who is discriminating against black people. "Black lives matter" says they shouldn't be discriminated against. "All lives matter" says black lives (the lives under attack) shouldn't be discriminated against. "All lives matter" just has more possible uses, as it can be used toward any instance of any race being attacked to call attention to the problem.
If it's addressing someone speaking out against discrimination against black people, then it seems kinda retarded, because they know that all lives matter that's why they're against discrimination against black lives. Telling them "all lives matter" would only make any sense if they were attacking some other race while also calling for black lives to not be discriminated against. And even so, that's sorta a deflationary way to address them, as it ignores the initial problem with black people and shifts focus to only the other race of people discriminated against, even though BOTH problems would need to be addressed.
"Black men are being killed at a rate 3x higher than white men."
I assume you are talking about black men being killed by police, and if so, you are wrong. In fact, black men are killed by police at a slightly lower rate than other men, but you have been lied to and you chose to believe the lie rather than do a little research and educate yourself on the facts. The only people killing black men at a higher rate are black men themselves.
The fact is American's are just getting sick of blacks playing the victim rather than owning their shit and trying to solve their problems. Most of the issues black Americans face today are of their own making. It is black culture that is the problem, not society. No one else can solve those problems for you. You are your own worst enemy, and the longer you continue to point the finger at others, the longer you focus on the wrong things and don't solve the real problems in the black community. And at the same time what you are doing is undermining respect for blacks and just fanning the flames of racism.
Whoever downvoted my comment, I would respectfully ask you to respond and tell me why. Everything I rote here is fact.
i upvoted you, and here are all the statistics to support your claims
This study debunks the claim that black people are killed at disproportionate rates. Yes it starts out accepting that in raw numbers black people are killed at a higher rate than their % of the population would suggest is reasonable but once you adjust for violent crime rates and rates of resisting to arrest they are actually underrepresented in police use of lethal force scholar.harvard.edu/.../empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
for those of you who say that the % of blacks stopped and killed is higher than their % of the population this is not a sign of discrimination. Black men commit 52% of all murders www.channel4.com/.../factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime it is inevitable that they need more policing as they do more crime.
The doj found that white, black and Hispanic drivers are stopped at the same rate https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=432
infact studies show police hesitate longer to shoot black people www.researchgate.net/.../290437363_The_Reverse_Racism_Effect_Are_Cops_More_Hesitant_to_Shoot_Black_Than_White_Suspects
Polls show blacks and whites are equally favorable to their local police www.monmouth.edu/.../
@007kingifrit Yup, those are the fact. Thanks for posting them.
@flexin-on-yuu I'm assuming you are the one who downvoted me. Care to chime in here?
@007kingifrit OP is as quiet as a mouse now lol.
QA: We've already had a black president, and we have a black vice president now.
Why don't you respond to the specific responses here rather than just saying you want the world to be black? That is really pointless and just hurts your cause.
I'm guessing you are in the US and I'm in the UK and the BLM movement has naturally imported over here to and rightly so but the American ideals of it have imported to. We have a different set problems in the UK. If you look at UK crime reports, police complains, etc the most dangerous thing in the UK to young black people is other young black people, stabbings, gun and gang crime. I'm not saying you will not come across a racist police officer, or official of some kind, that would be silly to say, but we have a different set of problems than the US.
In a more direct answer to your question "all lives matter" is not inherently racist, as it is infact a statement of truth all lives do matter. Saying all lives matter as an answer to someone stating BLM I'd have to say isn't racist either, it isn't a slur or derogatory to coloured people or referencing or making fun of there historical or current treatment etc so it cannot be racist.
It is however ignorant of what BLM are trying to do and raise awareness off, but it is possible to be ignorant of their cause and not racist, and to claim that someone who is mearly ignorant is actually racist is nothing but damaging to BLM cause reinforcing some peoples fear that you cannot speak freely when race is involved without being labeled a racist.
Yea, black men are also killed 100101010101 times more by (black) gang members. You seriously gonna sit here and say that police account for anything close to the black on black crime? Even if all the racist murder towards blacks combined, cops, KKK, aryan brotherhood, it wouldn’t even come CLOSE to the number of blacks killed by blacks, why isn’t that an issue? BLM don’t they? black lives clearly only matter when racisms involved cause in the time it took me to write this response 50 or more black men probably just got shot or murdered by another black man. Blacks people just love to complain, about EVERYTHING, pulled over for speeding? Cops racist, someone looks at me in a store? They think I’m stealing they’re racist, they don’t agree with absolutely EVERYTHING I say? Racist, you’ll probably call me racist for calling your bullshit, sure racism kills blacks, but not NEARLY as much as gang violence and drug dealing, I don’t see BLM marching the streets of chiraq preaching how their lives matter in O BLOCK where all the gangsters are at murdering each other? Oh right, that’s not racism, so it doesn’t count. The entire movements a joke, all they’ll be remembered for will be rioting and robbing innocent people blind, but I’m sure there will be no shortage of sensitive little women pussies like you out there crying about racism, while the majority of murders are within your own race LMFAO
I think blm is wrong for not bringing awarness to the issue in the native American community as well
And yes I know that they represent black people but if they have a huge following why don't they speak up for natives as well?
Do you know almost every Native American woman or girl is sexually harassed or even raped
by non Native American men so native guys aren't the issue
Almost in half of the cases there is no justice
And many Native American girls are kidnapped and dissapear
#nativelivesmatter
Awareness*
Almost every Native American female is sexually harassed or even raped
by non Native American men? That is very difficult to believe. Can you please provide your source to substantiate that claims?
@DudeDiligence look it up
I have, and what I found does not support your claim. Please provide evidence to support your claim.
@DudeDiligence
There are many articles like that publicintegrity.org/.../
"More than half of Native American women have been sexually assaulted including one third who has been raped during their lifetime"
Native American women are indeed sexually assaulted at a significantly higher rate than other women, but your claim that almost all Native American women are sexually assaulted by non Native American men is wildly inaccurate and irresponsible.
Your own source doesn't support your claims at all.
@DudeDiligence what are you talking about? I would not say something that isn't true
I once read that 90 percent of native women claim to have been harassed
@DudeDiligence If you want to turn a blind eye to protect your country or race's or whatever image than that speaks on your character
The news has to be spread and native women need to be protected
@DudeDiligence "over half" that means MOST
"almost every Native American woman or girl is sexually harassed or even raped
by non Native American men".
These are your words, and they are false. I challenge you to provide a shred of proof to back up that claim. You can't, because it's untrue.
It's terrible what is happening to Native American women, but spreading lies only makes it worse.
@DudeDiligence www.google.com/.../ncna935661
That article does not even come close to substantiating your claims. The author states that the results are not representative of Native American women as a whole because the participants of the tiny survey in Seattle were all low-income and homeless women. That would be like assuming the entire population of the US has the same rate of alcohol and drug abuse as the homeless population in Los Angeles, which is incredibly inaccurate.
The article also does not substantiate your claim that all or even most of the abuse is carried out by non Native American men.
Again, I acknowledge there is a big problem with sexual abuse of Native American women, but making wildly inaccurate claims about it does far more harm than good.
@DudeDiligence I don't know, you know English is not my first language
Maybe i misread the 90 percent claim but it also says it was consistent with other data
All I do know is that over half meaning most native women experience assault or rape that is what I meant. Again, English is not my first language so I do not always express myself right
That is for sure
And I didn't mean harm
I am trying to bring awareness to a REAL issue that is ignored
And whoever thumbed this answer down is a heartless bitch
Who would be against bringing awareness
I meant that most native women experience harassment and that is for sure*
Over half means most
As I've said, I agree with you that it is a serious problem. But "over half" is very different from "almost every", and based on the writing skills you've shown here I think you knew that.
But more importantly, you made the claim that those rapes were all done by non Native American men. That is a false and very harmful fallacy.
I am fine with bringing attention to a problem, but not when it is done with lies and false statements. That is the underlying problem behind the issue the QA raised in his question. He believes that black men are killed by police at a disproportionate rate, and that is absolutely false. The reason he believes that fallacy is because people, and the media, have spread misinformation and many people have accepted it as fact. That has resulted needlessly in a lot of hatred and race based resentment, which is the opposite of what is needed right now.
That's what happens when people exaggerate or misrepresent facts, as you have done here. I am all for bringing attention to problems, but PLEASE do it honestly and accurately so you don't create even more problems.
@DudeDiligence The article I sent you literally says that two thirds of assaults on Native American women are committed by non Native American men
That doesn't mean it is only done by white men or that white men are evil so calm down
It only means that scum take advantage of them
There is scum in every race
And If you go through my page you will see that I have to correct myself in my answers more than once
Because I mispell or whatever
So what I told you is right I am not perfect in English
There were no people groups "native" to the American continent. Migration occurred via the land bridge between northern Asia/Russia and Alaska/Canada.
@Massageman ok then I guess Swedes aren't native to Sweden either
And none of us are native amywhere except Africa
Anywhere*
"almost every Native American woman or girl is sexually harassed or even raped
by non Native American men so native guys aren't the issue"
Again, I realize that English is not your first language but I think even you know why the above statement is false, and that no source you posted supports it. Please just stop posting false statements.
@DudeDiligence I am not posting anything false
The articles are there and people can read them for themselves
Ok I used a wrong choice of words, sue me
I do not want the original message of my answer to be ignored
Let's just leave it at that native women are suffering alarming assault rates and attention should be paid
"I am not posting anything false"
"Ok I used a wrong choice of words, sue me"
lol
@DudeDiligence I think you just want to take away attention from the problem
I will keep posting that Native American women need help by the way
Everywhere I go and say that Native American women suffer from this I get reported or people try to minimize it
Shows a lot about your country
Keep in mind the other times I didn't use those words
I simply said native American women were being harassed and raped and it was ignored
And people didn't like that
I already know you all don't care about it
We do care about it but we need to focus on raising and uplifting the black race first. Once Black Lives Matter then we can focus on everyone else.
The Middle East, actually, yes.
Nonsense. The statement “all lives matter” is true, Black Lives Matter is simply a more focused form to shine a light on a group in particular. But for practicality speaking, the USA has more than just Black people that can be considered oppressed, but don’t have an “all lives matter” attached to it. For instance, native Americans on reservations are routinely stricken with poverty, a higher than average sexual assault rate and are brutalized by police as well. That shit doesn’t even make the news.
So whilst I understand where you’re coming from, I disagree with focusing on just one group when I could promote the worth of everyone at once.
You cannot say something is a fact when it is about definition of words. It is semantics. You see it one way, other people can read it differently. Being a racist is not about that. You cannot tell from one sentence if it is racist, depends on who says it and how they feel, in what contexts and so on. Educate yourself.
I agree that there is systematic racism in society. But that has nothing to do with 'all lives matter'. I would personally say that sentence because for me it is logical that 'black lives' are included in 'all lives'.
Black lives matter got co-opted at some point. It is now a racist ideology. It's similar to the way third wave feminism damaged the originally good and justified goals of feminism/women's rights. It's similar to the way the trans agenda has gone off the rails. It's similar to the way opposition to anti-semitism has evolved into mandatory support for Israel and Zionism and gives Jews special privilege.
I oppose injustice. All people are my brothers and sisters. But I will not apologize for being white (whatever that is) and I will not by into white privilege or white fragility bullshit that is designed to divide people.
Black people are not being killed more they killed the most other races more than anyone else they barely get killed by the cops it's only 27 A year to kill by the cops but they make up for more than 50% of the crime.
Problem with black people is their culture has basically been taken over by thug culture a self destructive culture that needs to be removed from every part of this world if we do that all the problems with black people will disappear because the culture is the real problem.
In a vacuum, “All Lives Matter” is a perfectly fine sentiment. The problem is that when it’s said, it’s said in response to “Black Lives Matter”, which is essentially saying “Shut up, nobody wants to hear it” to the entire movement, even at its most basic and innocent level, before anyone even gets into trying to spin it into a Marxist thing. Best thing BLM could do is rebrand as “Black Lives Matter TOO”, and then there’s no cloaking of ignorant sentiments, you have to say flat out “no, black lives DO NOT also matter” and completely own your bigotry, and then we all know where everyone stands and we can react accordingly as we individually see fit. Honestly, the most offensive thing to me about “All Lives Matter” is that you must think the person you’re talking to is an absolute moron to think they’d take that kindly.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/s6MVjwnNIg4I agree that by itself, the title Black Lives Matter does NOT imply that only Black Lives Matter. But the actions of many people in the BLM movement (such as justifying rioting against innocent whites) does indicate that they don't believe white lives matter.
plus, many of them don't care when black people get away with killing white people on-tape. Example: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/las-vegas-woman-accused-of-pushing-man-off-bus-pleads-not-guilty-1675594/amp/
If the races were reversed then there would probably be riots over this
https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/figures/regional-shares-of-world-population/20042_gmt1_fig1_world-pop-shares.png/GMT1_Fig1_world-pop-shares_v1.png.75dpi.png/download
Black people are outnumbering whites worldwide. Go get shit done then instead of crying wolf for "mean whitey" doing it for you.
These entire movements from BLM to Feminism, etc. all come down to it. Expecting others - usually white males - to solve these issues. That is an inherently racist and sexist expectation.
I don't disagree that black men a possibly being killed more than white men but it's more blacks killing blacks than anything else. Yes there is still racism going on today and it's something that needs to stop but it needs to be handled in a different way. You can't fight racism by rioting. If you put that energy into creating safe ways for different neighborhoods to get together to help each other help others or fix each other's neighborhoods up or do sit downs with certain youths and certain elders of each other's communities so we can learn from each other or something that's going to create good feelings instead of negative feelings.
I disagree with you at full blast because you black folks aren't the the only ones having it bad at the moment. regardless you should thankful that you're not a slave like your ancestors were.
"Black men are being killed at a rate 3x higher than white men."
by who? by other black men and abortion?
cause those are the two leading cause of death to the black race. if you black lives matters individuals really did care about black folks you would all be protesting abortion clinics and preaching blacks in the hood to stop committing drive by and other violence.
All Lives Matter is not racist just because you think it is. There is nothing racist about saying everyone matters, That makes no sense.
I understand what you are saying. Obviously, all lives don't matter if black lives don't matter, but that goes for the rest as well. Black lives have always mattered. Just because there are cruel people in this world doesn't mean they don't. Blacks are a great contributor to blacks being killed at a higher rate because they kill each other, a lot. This country isn't anti-black, but I know that does not mean there are no white supremist, being that our former president used every opportunity to insult every other race but his own.
Saying "Black lives matter" creates an exclusion of white people.
This only turns the situation in the opposite direction.
The problem is not a racial one, it is one of justice and corruption. The fact that the police do not treat all people equally, both white and black, is a serious mistake of the American justice system.
The law must be applied equally, if a black person needs to be beaten in order to be arrested, the same must be done with whites. If the justice system arrests innocent people, in which there are more black people, it is the fault of the government and leadership system.
As far as I know, both black and white people have the same rights in the United States today.
All lives matter. Period and Amen. Males and females, He created them in His own image. God made ONE race - the human race. And, God saw that it was good.
If you don't believe we are all of the human race with varying degrees of "tannish-ness", then you will find that blacks are the worst enemy of other blacks, not whites, and not the police. Educate yourselves.

If that's the case then stand up for other social issues as well if you want all the support without being hated or something. I don't see BLM protesters standing up for anything other than black people.
So to elaborate my point, you can try to rationally help other opressed or any social group which society thinks need real help (like poor homeless people). Then it might be easy to surpass the image BLM protesters have made in front of the whole world. You really need to get rid of that fake support as well.
While I'm an ardent and unapologetic supporter of Black Lives Matter, I can't say the phrase "all lives matter" is racist. Its like saying "all cancers matter" in a Breast Cancer Awareness event is somehow anti-cancer, when in fact it isn't. Sure it is unnecessary and "all cancers matter" people are missing the point, but that doesn't make them anti-cancer.
It makes them ignorant to say all cancers matter. There’s a very strong correlation between ignorance and racism. People who say those things don’t automatically put them in the same league as the KKK. But they’re not far off.
Can’t compare cancer to BLM. Doesn’t make sense. All I’m saying is that all lives can’t matter until Black Lives Matter.
@dawsonnata what does that have to do with anything?
It's not cancer though, it's race. The point of all lives matter is to stop grouping people and making decisions based on race. So what if the analogy was a black breast cancer event and the protest crowd is saying "all cancers matter". That's a better reflection of what is happening. They're saying how about we just treat cancer and not separate people based on superficial characteristics. And it should probably be thyroid cancer as a rare and a relatively high survival rate to better suit the analogy.
Are racial separatists racists? Because you could apply your version of the cancer analogy there too.
@AllThatSweetJazz I agree, but all of that is besides the point. The question is are "All lives matter" people racists? My answer to that is no they aren't racists, but I do beleve they are misunderstanding the entire point of Black Lives Matter. I know well intentioned people who say "All Lives Matter" and there are a ton of those in Houston. They aren't saying that because of some racist belief.
Loll okay sorry after reading all these comments I'm afraid every single person on this comment thread misunderstood my analogy either completely or in parts. So I'll just reword it loll:
While I'm an ardent and unapologetic supporter of Black Lives Matter, I can't say the phrase "all lives matter" is racist. Its like saying "All cancers need to be eliminated" in a Breast Cancer Awareness event is somehow anti-cancer. Saying "All cancers need to be eliminated" by DEFAULT isn't an anti-cancer statement. It would be nice to eliminate ALL cancers, but saying that in a Breast Cancer Awareness event is diminishing the importance of Breast cancer. This, however, doesn't make the slogan "anti-cancer" even though it is diminishing the importance of a certain awareness.
Now to link this analogy with race since everyone here misunderstood that part. Black Lives Matter is about raising awareness for the brutality Black people are facing in the hands of our justice system and law enforcement officials. Now saying "All Lives Matter" in a Black Lives Matter protest IS problematic since its trying to diminish the importance of Black awareness BUT that doesn't make the statement racist. Someone can say "Asian Lives Matter", does that make them racist? Does my life not matter? Of course it does, but that slogan is counterproductive to the Black Lives Matter protest. This, however, doesn't make the slogan "All Lives Matter" or "Asian Lives Matter" racist even though it is diminishing the importance of a certain awareness.
Wherever I said "anti-cancer" replace it with "anti-Breast cancer awareness" and there you have it.
Okay so maybe I used to many words. Most people don’t think it’s racist. But it’s borderline racist, and disrespectful. If you said “all cancers need to be eliminated” during breast cancer awareness, people would ask, “do you have an issue with women?” Because in what logic would you have to diminish someone else’s movement.
Yeah its so my mistake loll when I said "anti-cancer" I meant "anti-cancer awareness" which I know COMPLETLEY changes the meaning but yeah loll God I wish there was an edit button so I didn't need to write in edits afterwards in such an embarrassing way 😂
Shit I used even more words in my statement this time. Not what I meant to do.
“They aren't saying that because of some racist belief.”
I totally got the analogy and I’m agreeing with the part where they're not racist.
My response was outside of the bound of the Asker’s question true, but it was more a commentary on your analogy and the circumstance it attempts to describe. My point being that not only do they not say they because of some racist belief, they say it because they are opposed to racism and furthermore are commenting on something real – they aren’t “missing the point at all”, they’re nailing it. But if you’re saying you’re in agreement with all that, then cool.
First off saying all lives matter isn't bad because first off black people to me need to realize there own worth and value to themselves not just to others. 2nd black own things aren't gonna help the black community if all these black men keep going to jail for major crimes. 3rd i don't believe all lives matter was solely base on racism and the fact that BLM just came around when it did. However i do believe that some do have that opinion and those guys are pieces of shit. As for the black president, we already had that, if you want black people to start doing better than you need to tell them or show them that the path of crime isn't worth it, because that's where a majority of black people go and is it there fault, some what yes and some what no. I personally blame the parents but yea
That poll result gives me hope. All lives is inclusive Black lives excludes others and why is it as a black man is it that when a black person kills another black person there are no marches? (There was a kid killed in Georgia and police officer killed during the so called protests) or when a black person kills another race?
Last thing - The Black Lives Matter organization website uses black men and male teens like Trayvon Martin but before they edited their goals and mission statement you could not find the word father there but you could find mother. They want to disrupt the nuclear family and as a dude why would i support something that wants to eradicate me I am not that much of a sheep.
I saw a video clip on tv, taken at some event in New York. Some female politician was talking on stage and she made the mistake of saying "... actually, every life matters". She was booed off stage. What I looked at that huge crowd, it reminded me of a klan rally. There is zero difference. If you look up the word, "racist" there is not a color attached to it. It does not mean "being discriminating against black people". If you hate another race you are racist. Period.

First, black people deaths are mostly from black people. Second, there is no white supremacy anymore, it's not 18th century. US even had black president. Third, all lives matter means that there is a line of respect for all races, and if any race gets below the line, we should help it back up again. You said only blacks are treated bad, this saying is racist and supremacist actually. You became the one you were afraid from. I believe you are from the US, so what about the native Americans? Minority that matter less than you? Come on!

As for your update, it cannot be like that in the US from a simple answer, there are less African American than whites, so statistically there are going to be more white things than African American overall.
By definition it is raceless. It doesn't specify any race but equally states the value of Human life. That being said, it misses the point, but so does blm. What we should be saying is Black Families Matter. Because it is true and why so many black people are dying and suffering. From the abortion of Black Children. The slaughtering of Black Children by Street Thugs. This all goes back to the black household which is 70% single Mother. The lack of Black Fathers in the Home is destroying Black families. A child raised in a single mother household regardless of race is more likely to drop out of school, do drugs, become a prostitute or other criminal, become physically unhealthy, become homeless, get killed, and will start more single mother house holds. Black Families Matter, marriage matters.
How's it racist to say a phrase that's inclusive of everyone?
I don't see any of this alleged white supremacy you speak of, at least not on a large scale. The fact that white societies are more prosperous is not our fault. If white people are truly to blame, then how do you explain the fact that nations that are almost exclusively black, have such poor quality of life.
Nothing will change until you start taking responsibility for your own situation.
You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such disgusting factually inaccurate comments.
I think the statement in your picture is selfish. The world doesn't revolve around black people. And black people aren't the most important people on earth.
No. Because racism is a procedural fault, not a fault in outcome.
Choosing your procedure to include considerations of race is racism, regardless of outcome.
Removing racial considerations from your procedure is the absence of racism, regardless of outcome.
And we can *know* that it's all about race because of the obvious neglect of other threads of identity. That is to say people who defend BLM make it about BLACK men, instead of black MEN. If we want to engage in the silly numbers games that BLM's defenders like to say, then the through-line of MEN is the greater axis of discrimination than BLACK. Yet we don't hear the chants saying male lives matter. So it really reeks of racism when the numbers only matter when it comes to race.
The least racist interpretation of Black Lives Matter is when it is spoken from a place of ignorance.
Also, besides all that, they're not even the highest represented in the data anyway. So there's just numerous problems with it.
Well over 90% of black men are killed by other blacks (vast majority of them black men). Claims of systemic racism against blacks are delusional. As is this "imaginary white supremacy". And leftists control all institutions in the US, so you're accusing them of "systemic racism" and "white supremacy".
And here's some systemic racism:
nypost.com/.../
Personally, I believe that every human being was born into this world equal, regardless for their color or race. It is what you do with your life that changes your worth, one way or another. I believe that every life matters and I also think that anyone who disagrees with this statement is a racist. There is not a color or race attached to the word "racist". If you dislike someone because of the color of their skin or their race, then you are racist.
I agree with what you are saying but you are not doing any cause any favor.
RACISM: "the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another." You're saying that ALL white people believe they are superior to blacks. Am I correct?
Saying "All lives matter" is NOT racist, it is the simple Truth.
I'll consider supporting BLM when young Negro males stop slaughtering each other over drugs and minor ego-bending insults. Their behaviour supports the 85 IQ conclusions of Chapter 8 of "The Bell Curve" and over 100 years of military IQ testing.
All lives matter its 2020 not 1930 for Christ sakes slaveries ended enough of this racial bullshit now alright The Creator put Humans here on Earth to battle it out and humans are bickerin' it in there little hissie fits over the years huh., This Pandemic hasn't solved the racial divide than nothing will people now come on humans the human race is the best race here on earth yet its to busy fightin' over minute little piddly arsed stuff to be fret over which colour of a human or which language is best to speak now your all humans now the best race on EARTH now stop fightin' over this minute crap ok this world has bigger issues to worry about now alrght.
Black lives do matter. I understand what your saying. There is no reason to say white lives matter because they always matter.
I don't think people saying all lives matter completely understand this therefore they aren't being racist by saying all lives matter
Yeah right.
All lives do matter though, including the lives of those still in the womb, so maybe we should say that, "they matter too, because they are the only ones that don't matter now". Also, they are killed at something like 20 times the rate at which black men are killed, so... you were saying?
Saying all lifes matter isn't racist it's self it just tells me that they don't agree with or like the black lives matter movement which is basically saying you think that poilce should just kill black people whenever
Did you read my post
you need to stop asking people if they read your post @flexin-on-yuu, try to actually further the conversation
actually @someginger the narrative you are repeating is false. black people are actually under represented in police use of lethal force scholar.harvard.edu/.../empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
black men are killed at 3x higher rate than white, cause they do 3x the violent crimes.
it's not like we disregard the lives of the black. black people on average are more poor, more likely to be single parent and more likely to be criminal, which is obvious in the statistics. that doesn't mean that someone thinks their life doesn't matter. assuming that is racist.
believe it or not, everyone has their own life and their own struggle. being entiteled to attention and sympathy is idiotic.
we all have the same rights. all our lifes matter. why do you shout "black lives" matter if all lifes already matter?
Not to stir the pot, but if someone says "all lives matter" is racist then they don't believe that all lives really matter and therefore believe that there are some races that matter more than others. So, ironically, saying "all lives matter" is racist is actually racist itself. That being said, the people who hide behind the "all lives matter" just don't want to acknowledge the systemic racism that exists in everyday life towards people of colour.
Saying that All Lives Matter in itself isn't racist, so I can see where some people using the line are coming from. However, it's the fact that it's used in response to Black Lives Matter that's racist.
I think the main group that is discriminated against and treated unfairly in the United States today is not black people, but white people, especially white men. So, I think that movements are needed to protect the rights of white people.
As for blacks, the only way for them to change their position in society for the better is to realize that the cause of their problems is not "systemic racism" or "white privileges", but their own behavior and way of life. And most of all, they need to free themselves from the tutelage of the far-left and anti-American Democratic Party, which they believe "cares" for them, when in fact it takes advantage of their problems of power and personal gain, causing division and hatred between people. Blacks must solve the problems in their community on their own. They need to stop believing they are victims and look more closely at themselves, with the necessary dose of self-criticism.
Fun Fact: 99% of black people killed each year, are killed by other black people.
A white person is 12 X more likely to be a victim of a serious crime, (rape, assault , murder etc) committed by a black person than vise versa.
I'm pretty sure you already know this, but I'm still going to say it anyway.
That graph is incorrect. The prevalence of violent crimes throughout the country is not that high.
ucr.fbi.gov/.../table-43
@Starrk yes 7.7 million offenses in 2018 isn't that high.
I take it reading spreadsheets isn't your strong suit?
The 7.7 million figure is the total number of people who have been arrested for every crime imaginable. So that includes everything from murder/rape suspects to people who were arrested for loitering and violating liquor laws.
The graph you posted is specifically talking about violent crimes, which means you have to scroll down to the violent crime column. Once you get there, you'll see that in 2018, there were only 392,562 cases of violent crimes (that includes both interracial and intraracial offenses).
So now here's my question. "How in the blue hell did interracial violent crime incidents in 2018 exceed 1.3 million (according to your graph), when the total number of violent crimes that year was 392,562?
Now, do you understand what I'm talking about?
Without the context it is an absolute truism that all lives matter. However, all lives matter as a response to black lives matter is a denial of race-based injustice and thus supporting the racist/supremacist social systems that maintain it.
there is no evidence of race based injustice and there are no systems maintaining your fantasy. inequality is not proof of discrimmination. different races deserve different outcomes because they behave differently
@CasaNorba exactly lol. they really are bigots
That's obvious. If black lives don't matter then all lives by default don't matter because of the exclusion of black lives mattering. Swap black lives with white lives, yellow lives, brown lives, blue lives, green lives etc and the statement retains its fundamental meaning.
Saying all lives matter shouldn't be considered racist, the fact that's an issue is really odd. Both sayings are common sense to me (although I got a bone to pick with BLM as an organization) so maybe I don't see issues.
@Remyhehim see I feel like folk need to calm down. It sounds like people reading too far into things.
When you factor in things like critical race theory and how "peaceful" (or lack thereof) the protests have been, its obvious that BLM clearly doesn't believe that all lives matter. Thats why people are saying this. They believe that rioting will only hurt their cause by creating negative sentiment.
Now, if they said white lives matter, that's an entirely different story but I don't see a whole lot of people saying that.
You know what's funny? All Lives Matter wasn't even a thing until after Black Lives Matter. It became a thing as a response to the uppity n*****s saying "Hey our lives do matter." That was a threat to your nice White Privilege wasn't it?
Hell yes that is racist and getting triggered because athletes take the knee is racist too.
Not sure saying all lives matter is racist. The reason I don't support the BLM movement is because it only tells part of the story. It focuses on the black men killed by whites/cops, but not the ones killed by other black men or by other minorities. On top of that, the public face of the movement has been hijacked by criminals.
It’s not racist. It is just out of context and missing the point. But it also points out why the slogan is problematic. You can’t drive inclusivity with exclusionary statements.
I think a better slogan over both would be
"Black lives matter as well".
Not as catchy but whatever.
that still promulgates the totally false idea that police are unfair to black people
Okay. But I wasn't thinking of police when I wrote it.
everything is racist to you. I have to wonder what kind of psycho lives in a place he finds so disagreeable.
Come up with a fact or argument to me then
The facts are that black people are not killed by police at a higher rate than white people. As a percentage of the population that interacts with police,, whites are killed more. Police brutality is something that affects all races - so "all lives matter".
Black people kill white people at a much higher rate than white people kill black people. So if that's the other issue you have, you're wrong on that as well.
here is the study that proves joeldalton right scholar.harvard.edu/.../empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force
RE: the update. If you want more black owned businesses, get off your ass and start one.
Attention K-Mart Shoppers! Social Justice Warriors are now available on aisle three!
If white women say that "all lives won't matter until black lives matter," does it mean that their white girls' lives won't also matter until black lives matter and we're free to hurt and abuse them a little' bit? 😏
Racist just means you disagree with a liberal in 2021.

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