The way things are going with constant media attacks on masculinity (although most men seem to ignore it so it’s probably not a huge problem) and feminising, penis-shrinking chemicals in our food and water it looks like femboys will be the majority of men and boys out there. I’m all for men being as feminine as they like or even fully transitioning to women (which I’m obviously for to those who follow me) but future boys won’t have a choice they’ll grow up to be feminine versions of their fathers and ultra feminine versions of they grandfathers and it’ll get to the point where it’ll be hard to distinguish the average male from the average female unless they pulled their pants down but even then it’ll take a while.
Well, most people resist when it comes to their kids, we're not quite there yet, but once we do, you'll see a real rift between those who want their boys to be themselves and those who want to tell their boys how to live. No one cares until it affects them... I draw the line at forcing people to be something they're not. Most people have resigned themselves to what is happening because they think it's impossible to win that fight. I know better, they're scared of us because we are many and they are few. No government in the world can exist without it's people. The truth is that by feminizing men and claiming that women are equal in all things, which they're not - just look the biological differences, they are trying to confuse people to the point where they don't know who or what they are and what is right. Take East Europe, they're having issues with population decline due to the fact the women want to be treated like royalty and can't stand being criticized, and the men want nothing to do with a woman that will only accuse and complain. Something similar is also going on in Japan, after marriage the couple seem to go into a more brother/sister relationship or other sibling dynamic than a romantic one, and so have no desire to make babies... I say to each their own, make your own decisions, but do so fully informed. The medical and scientific communities still don't have a full understanding of what causes people to deviate from the biological norm. We're close, but not there yet. One day we'll figure it out and maybe be able to do something to prevent things or at least ease what is going on. It was discovered back in 2016 after a long experiment that people who are trans, homosexual, or other significant deviations that the cause is both biological and environmental, not genetic. Basically, the wrong hormone is triggered in the womb and the brain is formed differently. Like a male being born with a more female oriented brain, as in the parts of the brain that more active in females are more active in that particular male, giving the thoughts/impulses/desires/etc. to be the other gender. For some it's just thoughts or impulses at random times and for others it's an unyielding need to change their biology. Then there are the environmental factors, like trends, politics, familial relations, etc. It's both biological and psychological. In the future, this will be understood better and, therefore, explained to the masses in a much better way. We might be able to get people with such anomalies treatment that corrects to what they should be (biologically), and for those we can't treat, there may be other options. Such options may include transplanted sexual organs instead of just a "cosmetic", for lack of a better term, surgery... or somehow cloning and/or genetically engineering both genders organs and growing them in a lab for future use/transplantation. However, if the worst happens, the males will be too feminized to sire/seed children and we will need to rely on laboratories to take genetic material and essentially grow the babies in the labs... There could also be sex bots/dolls with synthetic organs and babies will be born at facilities and the romantic relations between humans will fade... Watch any science fiction dystopian movie/show, there are several that cover this topic. Message me for suggestions.
I think the future masculinity will split up in two groups as it is already doing concerning LGBT and feminism ideas. There is the one group that is supporting these concepts and there is one group that tries to avoid it and will continue to do so. I don´t think masculinity will die out completely it just will become a minority for some time. I think you´re right about the fact that most men ignore it because they think their current problems are more important. Yes there will be more femboys around but there will still be other men around as long as there other females around that are attracted to guys who are capable of solving mechanical problems, taking responsibility and know what they want. Feminism in itself can´t establish the future masculinity because they just would turn guys into girls. It´s most times easier for women to understand another woman than understanding men. But the hidden problem is that these femboys won´t be attractive for a relationship. They might be attractive to talk to and spend time with but even nowadays guys like this are called "nice guys" and aren´t seen to be good for relationships. Feminism oftenly uses the statement that guys are educated to not show there feelings and they shall be strong and emotionless. This statement can be true in some cases but there is the danger that women teach men to think and act like women. That way these guys lose their mystery and there interesting characteristics. Future males will have to stand up and fight for their rights because they could be the future minority. Feminism in it self can´t solve the problem because it will also take males and females both starting from their view to bring humanity closer to equality.
I don´t think so because there will always be women around that aren´t turned on by femboys. The need of reproduction is part of our gens. Even nowadays studies show the quality of sperms have gone down because of a misuse of sugar and alcohol. Even nowadays you can see changes because more and more guys put in their profiles in online dating that they are submissive. A character trait that is also rather seen as female than male. There are already many nice guys around that they say they don´t want to decide anything without female agreement. These are first signs. Though I don´t think it will be forever. See makeup like powder was originally invented for males 300-400 years ago to help them fit in a certain beauty standard. I therefore doubt that guys will turn into females and I think you shouldn´t wish for.
I think the difference between the traditional man and the modern man, is whether or not being disagreeable is viewed as 'sticking up for yourself' or an 'emotional/ relational deficit'.
It's important to stick up for yourself in some situations but also, no one wants to be in a conversation or a coworking environment with someone who only shoots down your ideas to save masculine face.
Everyone's allowed to have their own opinions, and there ARE ways to express dissent without contempt or prejudice.
I think traditional men are more focused on their entitlement to an opinion, and modern men are more likely to question how what they are saying contributes to the context.
A toddler can exercise their freedom to dissent, but it takes a man, traditional or otherwise, to determine whether they are being disagreeable to prove a point, or being disagreeable to articulate a point.
I most appreciate men who strike a more equal balance between their masculine and feminine characteristics. Our society can do without the macho man gym bro, the emotionless stoic, the violent rage warrior, billy badass, or any other dominant alpha male wannabe types. But we also don’t want men who are over emotional and cry about everything either.
Not all men are alpha males. The beta males are the ones that are able to strike a more balanced emotional posture. The alpha males who are characterized by their stoic posture and their emotional stance are still very vital cogs of our society. We need alpha males and Alpha females in order to deal with specific tragedies that cause great chaos, such as 9/11.
The way we live today won’t continue forever. The way societies/cultures change is cyclical, not linear.
The main reason for the feminisation of men is the comfort of modern life. Resistance builds strength. Comfort breeds weakness.
The reason men have always been expected to be masculine is because it was required in hard times. It wasn’t random, or for no reason. They didn’t even have to think like we do today about what masculinity is, because what men needed to do and the way they needed to act was self evident in their daily struggle.
As I said we live in easy times now, and the main reason people support the emasculation of men or think that masculine ideals are “out-dated” is because they think that things will continue to progress the way they’ve been progressing over the last few decades.
There will come a time when everything falls apart. The way we live in the modern world is completely unsustainable. War, the depletion of the finite resources our way of life relies on, economic collapse, climate change, food shortages, over-population. Any and perhaps even all of these things could/will happen at some point. Then we’ll be back to hard times again, and men will have to be masculine again.
But before that happens there are plenty of us who see how terrible the emasculation of men is and we’re not raising pansies.
I’m glad you are acknowledging this. When it comes down to it men have changed because we responded to women changing. Men are more “trainable” by surface reasoning and what seems logical. When we are young and naive and we hear “women like sensitive nice guys and it’s a good thing to show your emotions” we actually believe that women are attracted to that (and we both know now they are definitely not).
The 1960s feminist movement unfortunately damaged and negatively impacted large swaths of men and women in western society. What’s worse is many feminists infiltrated public education and developed feminized education systems that has brainwashed 10s of millions of young boys/men.
Anyway it will start with more women speaking out against this crap. Men who try to do this face very steep odds (they get labeled “incels” or worse). That’s not to say the men are to be let off the hook. But still we need to recognize WHY this is happening vs blaming the symptoms of it. Major institutions in public education, government, media and the tech sector are being dominated by leftist ideas which most often propagated radical feminism. It was subtle at first but it’s steadily gotten much worse.
Just remember if men fail women ultimately fail. The very platform that has given us the right to free speech, expression and the technological advances in mass communication was developed by brave, smart and ingenuos men. Ironically how that platform is now being abused to destroy the exact sort of men who built it.
Doubt there will be any future like that. Won't happen unless evolution happened for us to go that way but that would take a long time. And there is no chemicals in the water and food doing that lol. The future however more realistically will be the Conservative type of masculinity ya know macho mister big guy who cannot show emotions must dom in all aspects. That will keep dying off like it already is to the point of even less of them. Still some shall exist but not a lot. There will be some rise, trans and femboys sure but not to that extent you say. Some guys will consider themselves gender-fluid due to been both masculine and feminine. Basically just the same as we have today just slight increases and decreases. It's not gonna be like oh just everyone is now female in the future. We will still have guys with dicks who have testosterone that makes them not be so. The government is not trying to make everyone female or something that wouldn't matter a bit to them actually that could make stuff worse for them on the aspects of Builders and Military and other stuff majority men powered.
Ah she's taking about the stuff in most plastics and why BPA Free plastics are much better. Get BPA free cups and stuff. Well yes this for sure effects humanity in a lot of bad ways it won't ever be such a big extent problem. Honestly sounds a bit like buzz science the kinda stuff that's just there to grab attention. But let's say it 100% happens most men cannot produce sperm by 2050? Would this actually change much? First off most women will be happy they no longer need birth control. Then plenty of way's to get a baby without having the capability of a kid yourself. So no it wouldn't wipe out all humans. But yeah it's not really in the food or water it's more in the plastic which contains them such as microwave food that comes in plastic containers or a plastic cup you use to have coffee in when these plastics are heated it's when they cross contaminate. For sure a thing that has side effects but i highly doubt that much and this news right here has probably just encouraged to start making more alternate ways to contain food. And if that does happen government would for sure put it in front problem to solve.
The future is bleak for men (and women) masculinity is frowned on and yes penis and sperm reducing chemicals fill our foods. Not to mention porn and masturbation kills men’s dick and lowers sperm count and leads to ED and lowers testosterone.
Men are not taught how to be men nor are they forced to be men as in a war like state. In a peaceful state men become weak and complacent and men fail thus their society fails. In a conflict state or a strong state, men become strong they embrace masculine attributes and they make their nation thrive. All men should read this book by Stefan Aarnio
It’s not too late for men to turn this around but it’s closing fast soon the west will fall and then the East will due to lack of masculinity. Men need to drop the controller and pick up a book. They need to stop arguing politics with people on FB and pick up an ax and chop some wood. We need to get back to living off our own and grow gardens, start families, have children, love God and embrace the nuclear family and get back to tradition. For tradition is not the worship of ashes but the praise of history.
I think Zoomers are more based and know what's up than Millennials ever did. Millennials are probably the worst generation in human history (for now). And while some Zoomers are still doing stupid crap on Tik Tok, most of them look at their older brothers and sisters being woke retards and naturally steer clear of that trash. I see it all the time online. Today's teenagers see the woke garbage for what it is and don't want to grow up to be feminist assholes and soy boys. Granted, some still end up drinking the Woke-Aid. But compared to like 45% of Millennials being useless to society, I think only like 15 or 10% of Zoomers are that way. So I think there's hope for masculinity (and femininity yet), but things are going to get better before they get worse and we're not out of the woods yet.
But what about the chemical threat to masculinity such as feminising hormones in our food and water. Boys are growing up to be more feminine than their fathers and grandfathers physically and mentally. Give it 20-50 years or so and most men will have petite figures and small penises and may not be able to produce sperm by 2045 according to some scientists.
"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."
The 2000's and early 2010's were the good times. 2013 was the tipping point. We're now about to enter the epicenter of hard times. We'll hopefully exit out with good times, and ideally, an end to Chinese communism. I don't think sissy-men and soy boys will be around for much longer, despite any chemical imbalances.
Perhaps things will balance out. As I stated in the question I’m all for men being as feminine as they like but the problem I have is that men and boys are being feminised against their will and most would have a natural inclination to express at least some masculine traits.
Technically men aren't needed at all. Seriously, genetically men are used for half of DNA to help produce a child but full strands of DNA already exist in every single person. If you put the full DNA in a female egg then you can make another exact replica of a human without sex. Now bc only women are capable of maturing an egg into a baby it makes sense only women get replicated. This has been succesfully done with a goat in 2009 I believe. There is such a thing as DNA degeneration which means DNA can't keep being used again and again but there is a way around this by using DNA from a baby, replicating it then freezing it. This process is of course outlandish and imperfect but the theory exists.
Also I don't believe the women of the world would commit gendercide (gender genecide). So men would be rare and it would probably need to be like that if this possible future is to exist bc only through natural birth can DNA truly be healthy. What mean is the clone goat in 2009 had more health problems and a shorter life bc the DNA was... I don't know if corrupted is the right word but I don't know how to explain the fact they used matured DNA for the test of the clone baby.
Well yeah.. masculinity is not going somewhere good. That's because world is more peaceful now compared to 100-150 years ago, it's good to have a peaceful world indeed but back in the day since wars/battles were happening more often, men knew their duty to serve for their country as a warrior/soldier just to protect their family, loved ones and country. Men in past were more prepared for anything, it kept their testestorone hormones high and gave them bravery.
However now, most of males are away from masculinity cause they are not busy with what their testestorone hormones want them to do. A healthy male should always know that he should be pyhsically strong, ready for anything and be athletic, man should focus himself more on manly stuff like learning how to fight, lift weights, learning how to use guns etc. However they don't, it's maybe because of as technology develops people started to focus theirselves more on computers/phones and it caused men to get away from their nature.
The majority of women won't be attracted to feminine men. Although creating feminine men is the goals of feminists. But unlucky for them, women will reproduce with the masculine ones, creating masculine babies that society. And society will try to interfere with that natural masculinity as much as it can, but it won't change the fact that women refuse to have kids with feminine men, and thus would rather remain single or go to a sperm-bank.
If the west doesn't get her shit together, then the refugees and other migrants will balance things out since they do still have masculinity within their societies. A woman would choose a masculine foreigner over a feminine local/western man. The hard times will come and eventually, these men will have no choice but to go back to their masculine roots.
As someone who prefer apocalypse I'd say things are going in a good direction🐙. Soon all men forced to transition to females and the AI lord saviour will be the last of our legacy. All hail the lord.
In a serious note, even though right now, this is not a serious problem, media sure make them. And then people might directly affect their children by forcing them to be feminine, and what does that makes men of future, you ask? A bunch of wussies with no confidence (why? because you're a man, and apparently that's BAD!🤷🏻♀️).
I don't have a clue for any other guy look for me I'm going to remain the same I am who I am I like what I like I can build I can do anything. I'll roll around in the dirt I'll build something from the ground up I will take on any challenge I'm quiet I'm loud we need to be if need to be but there's always a way around that my hands are big and rough and my touch is very soft and delicate I can be a provider a teacher a friend and a lover that makes it all about the person I'm with right about me I'm all guy man and boy and the best part about it is each and every word that comes out of my mouth and everything I do is my choice become who I want to become
Social conditioning can only go so far and there is a significant part of the population that has figured out what is eroding masculinity and is protecting their sons. The feminization of men will not be total or permanent. Survival of the fittest will prevail. There is a cycle to civilizations and reduced reproduction rate, the feminization of men, an abandonment of religion and tradition, imperialism, and cosmopolitan “world cities” tend to be found in the late stages of civilizations. Hard times produce strong men, easy times produce weak men, weak men produce hard times, and (we are getting into this last phase now) hard times produce strong men. If our civilization does not change course the fertility rate will continue to fall and it will be replaced by people who are capable of population growth.
Hopefully not the soft, weak, pathetic and hopelessly feminine kind we have today. Bring back the honor system. Bring back the values of strength, vitality, virtue, honor and respect.
Toxic masculinity exists, im not disputing that. But its not the masculinity itself that is inherently toxic or benevolent, its how that masculinity is used. Aggression can be used for sentinels, guardians and soldiers or it could be used by bullies, dominators, and oppressors. But who fights and can actually fight practically against those bullies, dominators and oppressors? Only those men who also have that aggression, that tenacity and that unrelenting refusal to take shit from anyone or anything undeserving of tolerance.
What's making men toxic today however, is femininity. Whiny, emotional, impractical, unskilled and childlike boys who believe they are somehow better because the women around them give them a thumbs up for their "newly liberated behavior" as Cosmo called it.
@noob__master like I said, masculinity can be expressed in toxic ways. Femininity is the same way, it can be used to nurture and care for others or it can be vindictive, petty and unstable.
Okay I don't know where you're getting those delusions from but no sane person is attacking masculinity. They're attacking toxic masculinity. There's nothing wrong with being a traditional masculine guy with six packs and a beard and being the sole provider.
The point is choice, like how you said men won't have a choice in being masculine or feminine, that's how thigns used to be, men were forced to follow this code of being stoic emotionaless robots and could only do certain things cause anything else was deemed not many enough. What we want is for them to have a choice, give them the freedom to express themselves in whatever way they want. Be it building muscles like Dwayne Johnson or putting on makeup.
Masculinity Is happiness for any land. However the evil 1% on the top. Know masculinity how powerful it is. And they won’t stand for BS! And they protect and love everyone.
That’s why in North America everything between two straight guy this considered “gay.”
That’s why Iran was over thrown by using Islam. Iran because of its oil and Iran was became machine was a threat to the west evil morons!
And now look at what’s going on... since the absence of masculinity, Canada / Australia/New Zealand/Germany/France have all became misandry. It’s own women have became mouthy loud annoying sexless nations.
The water and food anywhere I've lived doesn't have feminizing chemicals in it, not sure what chemicals you would be refering to.
Also you seem to be associating facial and body structure from racial mix with penis size (which is already wrong), and and lumping both as "femenine" (which warps it further), but thats not how that works, drinking tainted water doesn't shrink your penis and having a cute face or slim build doesn't result in growing a small penis.
There are guys out there where they look completely like women everywhere but their groin thats housing a 10 inch dick and huge balls... a guy could take estrogen suppliments growing up and STILL have a huge wang, so sex organ development is a bit more complicated than you are making it out to be.
I don't know. I'm focused on my family. Don't have time to follow every little shift in culture.
But if you want my personal opinion on this whole cultural change: - Upper class will not change - Middle and working class change - Products will be adjusted to the needs and taste of a new generation every 20 or so years
Bleach. If there's something from the new millennium idiotic take on genders, is that men are less and less masculine, in many senses of the term. No wonders feminists can find a decent one (mostly because they are ireedemable, nasty bitches) and normal women can't either since there are no valid men to call a husband. Sad state of affairs. Brought over by a way too comfortable time.
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With technology today and women so free to do what they want, feminists can just put us down so easily with their idea of "women are strong, masculinity is toxic, they're privileged and we don't need men" now leaving most men useless. And yes that's affecting our strength and testosterone. And to top it off, they think guys have it so easy biologically so men's health is not really taken that seriously. They dismiss arguments by "We get cramps and give birth" but they don't experience testosterone drop.
Western society is gynocentric ( ruled by women ), masculine traits are leadership traits, men are more disagreeable, real men say no whenever something seems dodgy or bad for them, this is why they are trying to feminize men, to have more control over.
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