551 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Someone who says that all college proves is that you know how to pass a test is wrong. I went to college and built my career directly after I graduated. I wouldn't know what the hell I was doing in my field if I didn't go to college. It's not just about "tests", it's about preparing yourself for what you are going to school for. You also learn from people who are in that career path because THEY teach you. After college comes experience. And even during college, you gain experience. And in a lot of cases, you need college to even get the opportunity for experience. That's why I had an internship class 🌸
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To be a fair a doctor is a vocational profession. Even nurses go to college now. Neither are something you can slogg through to get a doctorate the way you can with gender studies.
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College gives you knowledge and concepts for the basic skills you need in most jobs and then depending on what you are going for it will narrow the knowledge and information to that field specifically. It's to prepare you for the workforce. What you want to make a living at.
It doesn't necessarily mean someone is smart enough to actually learn and understand what they are taught to be able to apply it to most aspects of their lives. It's not simple to say that people who go to college are automatically smart.
And that girl in the video was basing her decision of dudes intelligence on his demeanor... obviously that has nothing to do with actual intelligence and the tests proved how wrong her perception of intelligence was.. she was so mad at the end🤣😂20 Reply
+1 yThere is a difference between 'smart' and 'educated'.
The smartest people I know did poorly in high school/dropped out of university because they don't test well or work well under deadlines. But they could give you a verbal essay on the complexities of several issues with in depth analysis you would expect to hear from an expert.
I also know people who are doing very well in uni, or who have earned their degree already, who are just average. Yes they are now an expert in something, but outside of that field they are just like tge rest of us00 Reply
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u +1 yThere is some correlation between going to college and being intelligent but the correlation is far from perfect. There are some dumb asses in college and some smart ones who stayed at home.
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I dont think going to college means what it used to.
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Absolutely not. While going to college can help you gain knowledge and even wisdom you certainly don't have to go to college to be smart and I now for a fact that not everyone who has gone to college and even not everyone who has graduated is smart. That being said as cheesy as it sounds being smart isn't really what matters as much as it is a willingness to learn. This isn't exactly the place to preach but being kindhearted and loving might not get you on the cover of the forbes but it will get you everything that you truly need in life.
20 Reply27.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No. My father didn't even graduate from high school. He joined the Army when WW2 broke out.. He ran his own business and was fairly successful. He was not a multimillionaire but he was well respected and well liked by everyone he did business with. He was also very intelligent in the sense that he knew what he liked an he knew what was BS.
My ex-girlfriends father did not graduate from high school either. He joined the Navy and learned electronics. He became an engineer at the local 'TV station and he could fix just about anything. He was an amazing car mechanic, he built his own house, framing, masonry work, electrical, plumbing and HVAC. He did it all.
These guys were not educated but they were really , really smart.30 Replyno, book smart sure, world- real life situations no, i have two brothers that can prove that they have their degrees but really no life sense at all over the most menial things like how to fix a sink, know nothing about owning a home, dealing with people the right way etc
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From what I know of college almost anyone can get a degree, really not that hard.
671 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Assuming you mean smart as in their IQ level, then it would generally depend on how well they do & if they're even trying. Because if someone does very well in college, then they'd likely have a higher IQ than average.
As for the woman on the video, even though she got the lowest, she's still in the high average of IQ ranking! So, she's definitely smart. She's just probably much more conscientious & less creative than some of the others which has made her better equipped for her current lifestyle.
And who knows how accurate that IQ score is. She could retake it in a more comfortable & leisurely environment and score higher.10 Reply
+1 yGoing to college means you are much smarter than the general population, but that doesn't mean you are the smartest in any group. Maria's IQ score is 112, making it 12 points higher than the average US population. So if by smart you mean more intelligent than most people based on IQ, then yes. There will always be exceptions still.
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The general population basically goes to college now
Might depend on their major and degrees. I had a colleague who had two PhDs in physics from New Zealand. He was pretty smart... in physics and mathematics. Not so smart when it came to talking to girls or making friends or athletics but pretty smart in those areas (not just in terms of what we knew, but how quickly he could learn new things).
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I would be reading a paper with very advanced mathematics and I'm like, "Derp!" Took me like two weeks to comprehend what it said and put its ideas into practice before I finally and truly got it. Then he already deciphered in like one hour. I think with the most prestigious academic degrees, it does take quite an exceptional mind to earn those, like an honorary degree in neuroscience. I don't think that's the case with most degrees.
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The word I always preferred over "intelligence" though is "competence". Like my colleague who is so brilliant at math and physics actually has kind of a crutch that allows me to outperform him. He's not insane. I'm insane. So I can run circles around him as far as actually delivering products on time, and few faults, even though I take about 100 times longer to digest a complex paper. Yet he is brilliant in his own way. He's the goto guy if we have trouble understanding anything related to mathematics or physics.
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Would also depend on what level they passed their degree. I know quite a few people that basically scrapped through degrees even a masters
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I mostly like this idea of "competence". We evaluate their performance on the job. It matters little to me whether they are high school dropouts or have PhDs up the arse so long as they're excellent on the job. I do notice a slight tendency with the most elite of the academic types to perform, on average, better in their areas. Yet we really have to be working towards the elite and it's not necessarily the case that just performing in their very specific areas makes them overall better for the job. I think almost every job benefits from other types of smarts too like people smarts and street smarts. That's even true in my opinion of my nerdy job as a software developer.
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Maybe it's like the difference between someone saying they played football in high school vs. someone being a quarterback on the NFL. At the highest levels, I think that says something, but I think there's a general problem these days with educational standards that make it difficult to tell if even a Master's degree is associated with excellence as far as competence.
+1 yNo, colleges and universities have lost a lot of value especially with how much you can learn without going to college however its still a place to get an education and probably more importantly its an officially recognized education when it comes to jobs and the working world
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... in starbucks
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Among other places sure
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNo, intelligence is 80% genetic. How much you’re able to learn and how quickly you can learn is mostly pre-determined. You can try to educate a person with an IQ of 90, they will never learn as much or as quickly as a person with an IQ of 110 no matter how well you teach the subject, simply because their ability to
understand the teaching in the first place is lower.
College education has become easier over time, and as a result more and more people go to college and pass. There are many very intelligent people who see no point in going to college because it’s simply not needed for whatever it is they’re looking to do for a living.
There are “less educated” people who earn a lot more than those who went to college, maybe they learned a trade or started their own business without the need to. There are also people with useless college degrees who can’t find a decent job.20 Reply- 3.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI went to college and I consider myself skilled and trained and educated rather than intelligent but I’m satisfied with my achievement because I earned it by working hard to get into the school and also to graduate and I believe I deserve a modest level of recognition and respect for my achievement since I didn’t have to do it.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yThat's the whole reason that some people go to college - just as a way of proving that they are better than others.
Some degrees they practically give away -just show up to class on the way back from the party
That's why student loan forgiveness is bullshit.
If you want a way to feel better about yourself - pay for it yourself.
(Don't ask the people you shit on - to pay your for your special time)
Once college all become free - then really how special do you think you are going to be?
Since immediately after that everybody is going to have the same degree you have! lolol10 Reply- 318 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yCollege is where you go to get the career you want to work for. But I would not say that a person is smart just because they went to college. Otherwise that means anybody who didn't want to go to college is dumb. And that's offensive to anyone. Smarts and intelligence can never be based on only one thing as everyone has different levels, abilities, and skills. Not just that but college isn't the only place you can learn new things either.
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+1 yNot at all. I have seen companies bring in college kids that have high pedigree papers for the job they went to college for and as soon as you put them in the field they are a deer in head lights. A lot of college are a lot more book smart then common sense.
10 Reply1.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No definitely not. Its education vs experience. If someone has more experience in a area they are probably smarter than someone that just read a book and passed a test. And that is all colleges proves is that you know how to pass a test, if they wanted to be smart than they actually need to be experienced too.
10 ReplyYes I do believe that they are smart and hard working. And more reliable than someone that didn't go to college usually (as in taking responsibility). You can't just underestimate education like that. Of course I also know many guys who lack social skills and logical skills that also wrnt to college but that doesn't change the fact that we learn plenty of stuff there.
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+1 yNo if they were smart they wouldn't need college , i have worked many years. Many go to college and have large debts, then I with no college end up passing them up and become their boss and i have no debt. I was a plant manager for 20 years many tried to take me out of my position yet failed to do so and ended up getting let go in time for failure to be successful at their job role. College is great for lawyers , doctors, etc but business or most things it is waste of time.
10 ReplyWell not everyone can go to college and complete it. A lot of hard work, dedication, self-discipline and a certain level of intelligence is required. Whether you like it or not, that is the truth.
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Truth is most college courses can be done on the line.
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+1 ySome (academic) careers depend more on submission to The System and on being conform with society's expectations, than having something to do with talent or brightness.
Especially, when the parent's wallet decides, but not the student's qualification.
But to go there and at least to try and progress is a basic sign of intelligence; just not proving the higher levels yet.10 Reply - 300 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yNope there are different levels of intelligence. There are some that are great StreetSmarts which are able to manipulate and control things. There is a book smarts which is your typical college educated person and then there’s worldly knowledge. Trivia can
20 Reply 450 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Just because you go to college doesn't mean you're smart. It's about how you use it.
I know some kids in my college class you eho are smart enough to recite any piece of history but some kids can't even identify the tense of a verb.
College is just a platform for you to gain higher education, can't get the benefit if you don't use it right.10 Reply- 1.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI watched that video, and I could tell from the very beginning that guy was quite smart. He remembered me of some quite smart guy I used to work with.
I was surprised that the girl said the opposite. Then I guessed the girl probably wasn't too smart herself.10 Reply 11.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Some people succeed in college simply because of family connections, which is how they also get in. Others succeed due to hard work AND intelligence. Others fail because of poor study habits and lethargy despite being intelligent.
This would be a much BETTER question if you had stated what you think "intelligence" is.20 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. That wouldn't make much sense. Collage anyone can get in here. Then university's is just a money thing or getting into debt. Neither of those things contribute to needing to be smart.
30 ReplyA person is not smart if they went to college, many people barely get into college. Its their experience and use of knowledge that makes them smart. Anyone can read and remember the words in a book, but only few can use that knowledge.
10 Reply6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Definitely not. Some of the most gullible, clueless, myopic, dysfunctional people I know have Masters and even Doctorate degrees. They were smart enough to make it through college, but all they know is in their field of expertise.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yPassing a college or university course shows that you can learn and may imply you have some academic intelligence but the two are not the same.
There is also emotional intelligence, and common sense intelligence. So when you say say 'smart', what is it you actually mean?10 ReplyNope, I have a friend who never went to college and he knows things I never known before. There's book smarts and then there's street smarts.
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+1 yNo, because knowledge is not intelligence. You can have worked your ass off and done really well in college but someone who goofed off their entirely life will still be more intelligent than you are
10 ReplyI was in college before covid and saw more than enough stupid people with good grades. I may not be the smartest but my parents praised common sense growing up. Colleges ignore that like it's not important.
20 Reply1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No. Colleges used to require everyone who attended to learn a foreign language and calculus. Standards have fallen and the game now is to get as many people as possible, smart or not, to pay $$$$ for college.
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+1 yAbsolutely not.
AOC is one of my classic examples of how going to college does NOT make you smart. And she "supposedly" has 2 degrees!10 Reply 2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I never necessarily did, but if you asked me 10-ish years ago I'd have said almost all of them. I no longer feel that way. The bar has been severely lowered. This is both reinforced by personal experiences on campus and the abundance of ridiculousness you see online.
10 ReplyNo.
During two degrees and even a masters I sat in lecture theaters surrounded by educated idiots.
A good memory (which is what the assessment system rewards) does not equal a high IQ.20 Reply411 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. With $50,000 per year tuition for some liberal arts degrees, the opposite is likely more often true.
30 Reply1.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Educated and intelligent are not the same thing.
Educated and indoctrinated are not the same thing.
A degree does not make one wise.41 Reply- +1 y
Tyler judged based on his own experience and didn't consider others based on concensus... like scientists today... science by consensus.🤔
And the girl's arrogance precluded her ability to reason beyond her first impression. Her education empowered her to judge others... what a douchebag.
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+1 yEducation does make people smarter, for a fact. But it also depends on one's intelligence. Some people are smart, some aren't. And let's not ignore street smarts.
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+1 yThey might be book smart, or know their chosen field of work real well, but they might not necessarily live like a smart person.
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+1 yNO! There's a LOT of stupid people that went to college!! Going to college means NOTHING unless you learned something while you were there!! Especially if it's something useful.
10 Reply No real life experience is what makes your smart and reading lots of books especially world history and of course travelling.
10 Reply1.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No. But I won't assume they're idiots either. That is determined by how they approach problems/their accomplishments.
10 Reply1.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It depends on a number of factors including the college they attended. Almost certainly, anyone attending Oxford, Harvard, Princeton, or Yale, are smart. However, some colleges are little more than glorified high schools.
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+1 yno, someone who never went to college there whole life and scored a 5 on iq test... for one second walks into college and then immediately back out... does that mean theyre smart now cos they walked into a college? nope
10 Reply11.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Nope. Ted Cruz went to college and nobody thinks he’s intelligent.
30 ReplyCollege is literally just a memory test lol after a year or two 80% of what you learn is forgotten. Unless you get hands down experience on what you are studying all that "smart" fades away
10 ReplyNo, I consider them stupid because they went to college, because what is now taught in colleges across the Western world (but not anywhere else), is complete and utter nonsense.
11 Reply18.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. If they graduated…the chances are high, yes. You can be intelligent or smart and make stupid mistakes or have no common sense. And it’s not to say non college grads aren’t intelligent.
But finishing a degree is an achievement.10 Reply- 884 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yNope. And just because someone dosen't go to college dosen't mean they aren't smart.
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+1 yOf course! Because college tells you exactly how smart you are... or does it? not
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+1 yNope. I've met many dumb people who went went college and smart ones who didn't.
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+1 yA college degree is evidence of knowledge, skill, ambition and intellect.
10 Reply 6.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Pretty much anyone of average intelligence can complete a college degree somewhere. A diploma is just evidence of time spent. There are educated people who did not finish high school, and ignorant people with graduate degrees.
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+1 yIn some cases I'm actually surprised the person actually found their way there!
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+1 yNo. I know a lot of smart dumb people. they have book smarts but no common sense and can not apply g=half of what they have learned.
10 ReplyHell no. I have two bachelors degrees (cybersecurity and criminal justice) and I have heard the stupidest things come out of the mouths of those who have PhDs.
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+1 yYou can be be book smart, but freaking stupid in street smarts
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Nope, I can't watch videos 90% of the time. My internet is dial-up and its too slow to watch videos online
+1 yNah, it is handy for specialised skills and general personal skills but doesn't imply intelligence.
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+1 yNo. Many politicians have in fact been to college and even graduated with honours---and look at the mess the world is in these days!
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+1 yhaha NO. infact i think it can make stupid people even dumber
college is easier than it used to be20 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThese days going to college is more a sign of following the herd than anything, basically like how obedient and non thinking are you? Smart people drop out and start a business. Goofs pay TO work for free XD
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+1 yLOL Hell no. I know lots of idiots who went to college. Many of them are in Congress.
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+1 yNope. I know a lot of people who have them and no common sense at all.
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