
What are your thoughts on parents including children in their political beliefs?


Believing that your life and the life of your children matter is considered a political belief now? but
I believe that it's very important to include your children in the things that you believe in and know to be right, like teaching them good manners and etiquette or religion
but this isn't religion. This is meant to remind those adults in the world that lives of others matter and maybe pass along a new information that may not be taught by their parents at home. Involving the children of any race in knowing that their life matters is very important no matter their race. But this is not political. Its like being Buddhist, its a state of mind. You either accept that the person next to you deserves the same treatment that you expect or you don't. This has been promoted as a liberalism because the people who make up the majority of the "BLM movement" are of ethnic backgrounds and anything with that has to do with equality for anyone is considered liberal when really it is simply a statement of doing what's right.
I was falling asleep writing this for like the 3rd time
I am all for children being exposed to politics and political things.
what I am against is raising a child you support my political beliefs.
the same for religion.
I will however support them in understanding something they are interested in.
there is also a bit of a line between. Say politics and social equality for ethnicity, sexuality.
For me as a parent it’s about providing facts from the bollox that appears in the media and. Social media.
a balanced view on things, this helps young minds make their own decisions.
there are also levels of extremes, supporting a white nationalist group in the UK, is nothing like supporting BLM (I don’t believe in a lot of it, my choice), or taking part in Pride events.
it’s then talking about each, what their message is and if there is any extreme side to it.
balanced factual decision making.
Not this polarised bollox where you are either a Blue or an Orange
Not bad necessarily, it’s good when kids have some kind of model to see that they can accept or reject. Saying that, I would be more inclined to parents who share more left political values but that would just be hypocritical although left values are the ones associated with human rights in general.
My parents never really included us in their political beliefs, we grew up and had our own beliefs which we learnt from school and the internet. I would actually say that we are the ones who kinda ‘include’ our parents into our political beliefs - as in, my dad doesn’t vote usually and my mum doesn’t know much about the parties so votes for the ones we tell her to or just randomly selects

only posting this because I was saving it for an identical question but you beat me to it.
But it's a spineless move by any organization to use kids to forward anything they dont truly understand
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I am not sure how parents could NOT expose their children to their political beliefs.
Haha!!!
You are adorable. Convincing your kid that their life matters may not be a political issue. But you made it one. But the act of actually forcing your kids to be involved in a political campaign isn't forcing them to be involved in politics. That actually doesn't make sense. Not that I am saying you usually do.



I certainly didn’t make it one lmao.
But you did. I mean Black Lives Matter. It is a simple statement. And you claim it isn't a statement of what should be objective fact. It is a political movement. That the kids are part of the BLM political party.
Unlike the Maga kids who literally campaign for trump. Somehow, campaigning for a guy running for President isn't political.
That's a serious departure from logic and common sense.
So, are you saying BLM is not a political movement or organization at all?
It’s all in my head?
Please say “yes” so I can exit this convo happy
I didn't say that BLM isn't an a political organization. Are you saying these kids are members of the organization?
Just think about this a little bit. Maybe you can believe that "Black" Lives Matter and not be affiliated with any organization.
I marched with thousands of Asians last year. I am pretty certain almost all of them were not members of the BLM organization.
So if you are offended that a little "Black" kid might be convinced that his/her life actually matters, then you have some serious issues.
You just said I was making it political.
But you and I know it was political way before I posted this question.
Also, good for you for marching with Asians.
I’m proud as an Asian man.
In my book, you are an honorary Asian! I bestow upon you my seal of approval.
Yes, you saw the shirts and you said that the shirts are political. They are a statement of their parent's politics. As though the actual belief that "Black" lives could matter is up for political debate. That's your point, right?
I am pretty certain you are not proud of being Asian.
Or actually, it is specifically Filipino, right?
You might want to take a detour here.
I’m neither proud nor not proud.
I’m proud of my accomplishments though, sure. I rarely think about race unless people force me to make me think about it.
In my daily life? Not at all.
Everyone already knew black lives mattered, but somehow BLM told everyone that everyone actually didn’t believe black lives mattered so they had to make an organization to make it matter….. faulty premise but what can you do.
Let’s say an Asian Lives Matter
Hispanic Lives Matter
Come on, we can do this
So you were proud but now you are not. And that changed in the span of five minutes.
Uhm, and you want me to believe you are a rational, common sense person?
So going down this rabbit hole. . . you could have took a detour you know.
A "Black" person should not feel pride. But they should feel shame over your obsession with race and crime stats, right?
I mean race doesn't matter until you say it does, right?
And I want to come back to this thing of you being Filipino. Because you know, you aren't really proud of being Filipino. The funny thing is, you go to race here as a cover. I don't believe in the bullshit concept of a Yellow race. That concept only get legs in America, because we are a backwards society when it comes to race and group identity.
But you actually carry around great shame for being Filipino. And your issue is to be as un--Filipino as possible.
I don't know Filipinos like you. All the Filipinos I know are so proud, you can literally see their pride two blocks away before you ever meet them.
Obviously, you didn't. Right? I mean that's your point with race and crime stats, right? That "Black" people commit a lot of crime, therefore, their lives do not matter as much as other groups.
Racists like you really need to get your act together. Why pretend you care about "Black" folks as much as other groupings, when your entire belief system is built upon the lie that some groups are better than other groups?
I have seen kids that are being raised to hate. I have seen kids used to support narratives and ideologies they are to young to care or understand.
I love parents that teach their kids to love their country, study history, and learn from its mistakes. They tend to teach their kids they are NOT victims, and reap what the sow, both good and bad.
They also have made it a habit of getting involved in what is being taught to their child. No indoctrination is permitted.
So, I guess it's pretty obvious... using your children as a political mouth is broken. Parents should be ashamed.
My first thought was "thats immoral" or "wrong"...
But kids will take over the political beliefs of their parents no matter what.
Everytime you mention something the kids will hear it and accept it as a fact until they reach a certain age and begin to form their own opinions.
So when the parents are always talking about something, like this group of people is dumb, they will also think this.
Whats a different story, is when people use their kids to gain empathy and affection to push a political agenda, like these kind of facebook posts "my kid got beaten up for wearing this tshirt".
Fucking stupid. Don't get me wrong, you instill in your children certain values, but doing that i. e. turning them into a walking billboard for your own ideological beliefs when they are so young they have no capacity to actually look at the situation and form their own beliefs, that is not only fucked up, its also just plain ole brainwashing. You teach your kids values, you teach them how to be an adult, and you teach them how to think for themselves, you don't hammer your ideological beliefs into their heads and not allow them to consider any other possibility (reminds me of the woman who kicked her own son out because he "voted for trump" at school. He was six I think.).
I think it's appalling. Let kids be kids ffs! Childhood innocence is worth preserving while it lasts. When they're grown up then you can tell em how fucked up society is. I was in bookstore today and at the tills in the kids section they had a whole row of books about teaching (read: indoctrinating) kids ages 5 and up to be "antiracist" BLM activists, and about "teaching consent", as if five year olds are just gonna be raping each other if not for that book!😬I find it so creepy and perverse that this shit is being foisted on kids now. But that's how the woke left operates. It's not enough for them to just enact policy changes and stir up public debate. They've gotta reach into the school system and children's homes and brainwash the next generation while their minds are most absorbant.
Blm isn’t a political belief, it’s about having rights.
That being said, yes and no. Children aren’t stupid and should be allowed to know about the world around them as well as the politics and such. An adult introducing their own political beliefs to their kids can be harmful if their politiCal belief is inherently harmful but it can be good if vice versa is the case.
@BubbaTech “black on black crime” doesn’t exist, it’s proximity crime
which blm does address how systems such as red lining has effected black neighborhoods leading to economic mobility being harder for black people. Which statistically no matter the race, poverty leads to crime. It has everything to do with that, and quite literally nothing to do with them being black.
Even if your statistics were right (which they aren’t) it would be due to proximity crime.
Source: http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/country/usa2014.html
Nothing wrong with it. It's part of their education.
Unless they are being taught to be bigots, I would not call that harmful education, just a different one.
Now when it comes to criminalizing the most hardcore ones, well, I have mixed feelings about it, like a German kid during Nazi period being taught to be racist and asshole. It can lead to them being bullies in school I suppose, but even then separating them from their parents sounds traumatizing, and puts a heavy burden on the state on what should be good and evil. That can be dangerous, I prefer trying to enter in their education during social life and school than completely removing their parents from them, even in extreme political beliefs. Okay the racist parent is teaching their kids to be racist, too bad, we should resolve this without violence (a. k. a jail time for parents).
You didn't say anything about criminalizing, but I added this in my third paragraph regardless.
I think taking your Kids to PEACEFULL protests to show them how to exercise their rights is a good thing to teach them the governments aren't all mighty by the age of 13.
But never push your politici beliefs on children so never make them curry out your message in anyway.
Children aren't politic tools
They are information sponges
This why the fact sometime like genderstudies exists is really fucked up.
Until 25 your brain isn't fully developed you need those first 25 years to learn about basic biology, economics, math, nutrition, respect, discipline and human rights.
Children also shouldn't watch the news.
They need to play to learn the right social behaviours.
I think they're trash and I hate that they do that (had to go back and edit it from "I hate them" because I try not to hate individuals). They're usually idiots nine times out of ten, and they're already indoctrinating their children to be just as stupid and myopic as they are. But hey, sh*tty parenting is nothing new in this day and age.
I personally don’t like it. It teaches your kid that they automatically have a disadvantage in life which can be an ongoing excuse to not succeed in life. I think teaching your kid to love their skin is essential but teaching them that they have a disadvantage does not teach them self worth
They should not push their views on different political groups on their children. For this reason my parents would not tell me who they voted for in an election.
However, being against racism is not a political views, it's just being a decent person.
It's not good. Let kids be kids for awhile, they can worry about adult shit when they turn 18
My ideas about that are the same regardless of whether the children are black or white. I think it’s inappropriate. But I also think it’s kind of inappropriate for you to only choose black children for your pics when I’m sure there are right-wing white people who also use their children to send political messages.
@nickaboy I’m not left or right. Just somewhere off in the stratosphere 😊. I just enjoy picking apart the flaws in people’s arguments.
That's a 7 year old youtube video about a prohibition joke that dates back to 1920 and the Simpsons played off how people use children for a comedic joke on an episode that's older at HD at the very least and I'm too lazy to cite the year the episode aired and pull a homer Simpson.
This is probably the earliest political meme ever. "Think of the children"
Great question yet a challenging one, I believe parents are there to educate and guide their children. But as for personal political beliefs, I think it really depends and how it will affect their kids future. Personally I wouldn’t want to force it on any child and stress them out though. Movements like BLM is understandable why you may see youth and adolescence protesting because it actually affect the Black population no matter what age you are…
I think it's pretty normal my whole family did such and I'm really wondering how you can not include your children in it? it's literally impossible. In my country people talk politic with everyone so obviously wether they want it or not they're going to include their children in it so
Generally you'd expect parents to want to pass down their philosophy to their children.
It's usually a good thing since parents generally care way more about the success of their children than the half assed employees of the local school district.
It’s pathetic. By doing so they acknowledge they lack sufficient belief in their movement or that it lacks enough power on its own, so they use casuis methods like using children to help promote it.
Okay, well, what if they don’t believe in any of that? Are those your only gripes with including or using children in one’s political beliefs?
If it’s something like Black Lives Matter then I think it’s good in fact if I have kids I’m going to include them in it but I don’t agree with parents pushing a political candidate or party on their kids. For example I saw a women put a MAGA hat on her son and post the video on social media, the video got a lot of hate and I’m not condoning anyone insulting a little kid on social media but at the same time it’s the parents fault for getting their kids involved in politics
Well, for one thing, "black lives matter" is not a political belief. It's just that opposition to it has been politicized. It should be uncontroversial but republicans never miss an opportunity to drum up some fake outrage.
I think supporting BLM and having your kids wear BLM shirts and teaching them about it is not anywhere near as bad as kids wearing maga gear.
Seriously?
BLM supporters spent all last summer rioting and destroying businesses... many of which were owned by black people.
How can a person be a part of BLM and destroy a black mans business? The black man loses his ability to support his black family.
Also, parents should not expect their kids to think just like them. The kids need to be taught how to think in order to form their own opinions. Kids need to be taught facts/truth to form justifiable opinions.
Mainstream media would like you to think that. At the time there were videos of people who were linked to white supremacists groups that were actually the ones rioting. Plus police who were breaking in to businesses.
Even so how many riots were there vs standard protests? 93% of them were peaceful.
Both are equally dumb. Politicising childhood itself is nothing but a thought control tactic, whether it comes from the right or the left.
You can't shelter your kids from this stuff. You shouldn't either. For all you know the kids in the picture could have asked to have the tshirts. Kids should know to some extent what is going on in the world, everyone was talking about it at the time, weird to expect under 10 year olds to be completely unaware of it.
There's a LOT of middle ground between "sheltering" them from it, and ramming it down their throats.
Wearing a t-shirt isn't ramming down their throats. 😂
@SomeGuyCalledTom by that logic are people who wear jesus or religious shirts also ramming their messages down peoples throats?
The conversation extends well beyond just some t-shirts though. You're portraying it as if I'm making a whole fuss out of one specific example of the broader phenomenon, thereby dismissing my point about the phenomenon itself. Besides, just imagine the added peer pressure on kids whose classmates are jubilantly reciting the political slogans their 'activist' parents taught them. By not also participating in that one-sided demonstration of political allegiance, the non-complying kid could risk being ostracised. Especially if his own parents admonish him and call him a racist for not reciting the slogans. Basically, all the peer pressure tactics being pushed on adults through social media is now being used against kids. If it were just a year or two ago, I would've considered such thoughts as purely conspiratorial. But the authoritarian left has been so effective with this shit on college students and graduates, that it's only a "logical" progression for them to extend that influence earlier into the education cycle.
Cringey indoctrination. The kid will not understand what they are supposedly showing support for.
Unfortunately it is true. I dont know if it is right or wrong. Id like my child to make up their own mind when they are old enough to vote till then id like to keep them neutral
I wouldn’t make it a strong presence in the home in the first place
Is it really any different than parents including children in their religious beliefs?
My grandmother was super religious, but never tried to push Christianity on me. She thought, if I was meant to be "saved" (besides baptism that is), then it would happen on its own. I ended up agnostic, so I'm not a complete atheist or anything, but I probably would be out of spite if they tried to push religion onto me.
When your child isn't capable of understanding political views nor informing themselves enough to form educated opinions on their own, you're being abhorrent in indoctrinating them with your subjectivity.
It is their prerogative, but it works both ways. A PBS lawyer was recorded saying that they would take children away from Trump supporters. He eventually lost his job but that is fairly indicative of the double standards and vile hatred in the left.
It's often counterproductive- my parents are leftists (honest ones, though, unlike the crazies that shriek and dominate the media coverage). Kids will find their own way.
We raise our children with our own beliefs, if this is what i bought for my child, I'm going to have them wear it.
Those are the cutest billboards I've ever seen! But children aren't meant to be billboards.
I'd rather my partner and I expose children to politics and encourage them to have an opinion rather than they don't have one.
I don't think it's appropriate. They are to be treated as individuals not a legacy. My parents were conservative and never talked politics until I asked. It makes me respect their opinions more because they didn't try to force their ways on me
You mean like women taking their kids on slut walks? Yeah, just awesome.
I’d be interested in a longterm research to see if their kids would be indoctrinated into their parent’s beliefs or be so against them out of natural aversion.
It's disgusting. No matter what side you are on, politics will terrify young children if they are able to piece together what the heck you are talking about.
Don’t use the kids as pawns, especially if you support recreational abortions.
Whats are your thoughts on corporations and billionaires manipulating adults and children to have political beliefs that are an advantage to them?
It is great as long as their political views are based on rational principles in harmony with the facts of reality.
Leave the kids out of it.
They'll do what they want but I don't think it's a good idea.
It's no different raising your kids to be religious like Christian, Jewish, or whatever.
Imagine the child that Joe Biden kissed, running for mayor in Biden's hometown!🤣😂
It is ridiculous.
Children should ne be exposed to any political, religious, ideological belief etc.
It's a form of abuse. Let the kids form their own opinions.
The kids are followers and too young to really know what they actually stand for.
We dont have that in my country. Using kids for political propaganda is unlawful last i heard
Don't be surprised when those children grow up and choose a different political direction.
Stupid. And it happens all the time
Hey!! Parents!! Leave those kids alone!!
I'm not raising pink men and pink women
I thi k it's about as bad as re-eduction
They can raise their kids how they want.
Those parents should be put in jail
Normal.
It's cultish.
It makes no sense.
Makes me angry
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