Why is it considered wrong to only be sexually in other cisgender people?

[Anonymous]

People from the trans community tend to think im being harsh or “ignorant” to sympathize with men when sometimes they get a bit freaked out and disinterested when a female wasn’t actually born such. I feel it takes consent away and directly violates someones personal sexual orientation which is extremely wrong.. how ever if the two people are fully aware of the others sex and gender and consenting, who cares. I don’t have an issue with the trans community nor do I think it would hold any significance if I did. But is it seriously an issue if certain cis gender people only like other cisgender people and feel violated if involved in something without immediate disclosure due to not really feeling able to have seriously consented.

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It is supposed to say interested not “in” .

[HugoThe2nd]

If you feel "violated" or "freaked out" because it turned out that a person you were attracted to is not like what you have assumed they were, the only "serious issue" here is that you are seriously unstable in the head.

It's your right to have a subjectively decided upon preference, but it's not other people's duty to predict that you do.

I don't like bigots, racists, conservatives, practicing religious or those who are waiting for marriage.
Should I feel "violated" if someone who falls into those categories fails to "immediately disclose" that and I find myself attracted to them?

Or would such an expectation be stupid, misguided and rooted in fragility, hostility and ignorance?

[Asker]

I wouldn’t ever feel violated by getting with somebody that I didn’t know had extremely different or even bizarre or opposite ideologies from me, even if it were to be a deal breaker. My issue is that the same way it would be insanely wrong to coerce or pressure a lesbian into having sex with something that is actually genuinely a man; Or the same way that it would be wrong for a gay man to be sent to a straight camp and be coaxed into non-consenting sex with women despite his true to self extremely important and not to be violated sexual orientation, some if not MOST cis gender people only consent to and seek involvement with other cis gender people... I feel as though it would be less selfish and more natural to assume that they might need to be double checked on if they’d be all right with proceeding with a transexual rather than assume the opposite that you would need to double check if they only like other cisgenders... It’s more predictable than not which at that point comes down to a lot of transgenders disregarding that rather than it being a matter of “guessing.”

[Asker]

To be honest it’s something that should be gone over as soon as both people are actually showing interest in each other and proceeding with something regarding the fact that there’s mutual interest, the same way people immediately disclose age to make sure they aren’t accidentally pairing up with somebody illegal or just “wrong” on that note for them specifically.

[rcljr]

That’s what gets a lot of these “ trans” people hurt, hospitalized or killed, they dress like girls and expect normal guys to be a part of their mental illness. Just because you THINK you’re a girl and dress like one doesn’t make you one, you’ll NEVER be female.

[rcljr]

Can you believe 1 guy downvoted this? Apparently HE is convinced that he is a SHE, that the liberal delusion I oft refer to.

[Asker]

My issue is with the fact that despite how strongly the majority of cis gender people feel when it comes to their own involvement, a lot of people in the trans community can’t really care to understand how one really might feel genuinely violated in being with held the information... and then be pursued. If it isn’t so hard for people to immediately disclose their age so that we all know what we’re getting ourselves into and know what to immediately walk away from why can’t birth sex and gender also be information that is given upfront if someone knows they’re trans and the other person may be a bit slower to realize it, but like as soon as involvement with one another is occurring. it would help them stay much safer and it would also be a lot fairer to those who just don’t consent to intimate involvement in that type of thing.

[Asker]

I’m also shocked that some people will consider a preference there wrong at all. Like that part is a bit sexually offensive and *in my opinion* almost sort of criminal... like everyone should have total consent in the situation. They should have consent to do what they want with their own bodies but NOT other peoples, we should be able to consent if we’re being involved and not open to it. How could that ever be a bad thing.

[Uannoyme]

Who a person chooses to be involved with is their own business, as long as they're consenting adults. No one owes anyone their interest.

[Qdbrown]

For some of the more perverse trans types, they feel like they become a woman in every way. This is not true. And conscent should be that if a person was originally born another biological sex, they need to let the other party know within minutes of sexually sought after relationship.

[Anonymous]

You're not wrong. Most men won't want trannies because we aren't gay.. I want to be with someone who is genetically born the gender she presents.. Means born with a vagina, born with a uterus, and born with overies. Someone born with a penis can simply never ever be a real woman to me.. And to suggest I'm phobic somehow because I'm not interested in trannies is stupidity at best.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh and cis gender is woke speak trying to force people to believe that being born male or female is somehow not normal.. When it's the opposite, trans people are not normal.. Humans are the only mammals that have this issue, there are literally no trans monkeys, cats, rinos, horses, or any other mammal.. Which means it's entirely psychological, and not genetic..

[Asker]

I had no idea what else to describe this side of it as and felt if I said “default” or “regular” I’d get a lot of comments on the “inaccuracy” or insensitivity of that. And I’m genuinely not trying to be rude or offend anybody but I started to seriously wonder what everyone elses view point is besides me and the people I know Irl.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh no I'm not offended by anything you said. It just pisses me off when people use that term as an insult, which you definitely did not do here.

[Asker]

Lol. no like I didn’t want to offend transexuals if I called being your default gender just that. Everyone on instagram thinks I’m a p. o. s for my wording on a certain post that’s been going around. Because I said it would be safer if they were forethcoming 🤷🏼‍♀️ I have a son and now I’m like is he gonna grow up to be ostricized if he doesn’t like trans girls or something.

[Opinion Owner]

Your wording is correct. Sorry I'm on your side in this, one should not have to alter one's speech to make others feel validated.. And your son will be just fine, you sound like a good mother.

[rcljr]

I don’t give a damn how many lgtbqabcxyz freaks I piss off, THEY are the ones with mental illness, NOT me, I like women, born female, genetically, hormonally female, with female chromosomes, not some mentally ill chick with a dick.

[Opinion Owner]

Interesting.. Did you know that you blocked me?

[rcljr]

If I had blocked you I would not have seen your note that I blocked you…

[Opinion Owner]

When you're on the mobile app, notes from people that have you blocked show up as "reply by user that has blocked you" so I can't see it unless I tap the reply button, once I do that it shows your comment.

[Kaneki05]

Well tbh that's only seen wrong by some extremists which no one actually cares about nor will have to worry about in there life.
Proper trans people understand that it's okay for a person not been sexually interested in them.

[XavierSteele]

I agree with you on this. It seems that the trans community gets offended when people aren't attracted to them or do not want to sleep with a trans woman regardless of looks and the ability.
Most of them forget that while they may have given up on the idea of procreation and other more rooted tradition, most of the world hasn't. That being said, if I were not told prior to it, they would end up with a toe tag.

[rcljr]

There is nothing about a guys hairy ass that does a thing for me.

[dray995]

I don’t know exactly what it is you are trying to say. That some trans get offended if you aren’t attracted to them? I would have no problem being attracted to or dating a trans woman as long as she didn’t still have male privates.

[rjroy3]

She's saying she understands straight men only being interested in women, rather than trans male to female amd further, they're justified because without this knowledge they can't give consent because it was under false pretenses.

Trans male to females get mad at her for feeling this way. So she's asking why it's even considered wrong

[Anonymous]

I think that is a fringe viewpoint, most people are on the same page you are.

[Sabretooth]

Or expresses curiosity.. never happened to me but I've heard some just hate on men for being curious.

[Iron_Man]

What does cisgender mean

[Asker]

Staying the sex and gender you’re born as instead of being transgender.

[Iron_Man]

Right

[Anonymous]

I agree 100%.