Was Trump being unreasonable when he asked that mothers not terminate the lives of their babies just prior to birth, when the baby can feel pain?

[KimmyKimmy]

I'm only posting this question because my reply on another thread got a lot of likes.
I also stated that I'm now pro abortion, because I realized that I'd MUCH rather be dead, than to have a mother who wished I was dead.

The abortion debate is a waste of time, but this question is just to show you what pure evil looks like. Trump isn't saying you can't have an abortion. He's saying do your really need nine months to make up your mind?
I recommend that Democrats not watch this video. It's best just to sleep well at night and hate the orange man. That's what you're good at.
But for those of you who choose to watch the video; look at the satanic evil in Nancy Pelosi's eyes, and giddy, gleam in Chuck Schumer's eyes. It's something you'll never forget. And notice that AOC who posed for that fake scene on the border, where she was crying... doesn't give two shits about late term abortions. The Exorcist movie, pales in comparison to this video.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXRTnD7JEWQ

[FunkyMonkee]

If you were planing on aborting the kid, why the hell would you wait the full 9 months?

[KimmyKimmy]

That's exactly Trump's point. But the Dems don't agree with that at all. Sick fucks.

[FunkyMonkee]

I'll say!! Why not just have the kid and put a bullet in its head? No point in wasting the money on an abortionist!

[KimmyKimmy]

I actually thought about asking a question like that, but it's probably too volatile for this website.

[FunkyMonkee]

I I was "living" with a girl for a few weeks back in late `85 and the subject of pregnancy came up in a conversation. We never fucked or even kissed, we were just friends. She let me stay with her because her back yard was literally a few STEPS off campus at a college we were both attending (where we met) and she said that if she ever got pregnant, the minute the kid was born, she'd take it down to the river (about a mile away) and drown it!! That's rather drastic!! She, soon, showed furthur signs of psychosis and I went back home after that! Never saw or heard from her again!! The semester was over at that point.

[KimmyKimmy]

That story would also make for a good question. "Should pro choice mothers have to kill their own babies after birth, rather than have a doctor or clinic kill the baby?"

[FunkyMonkee]

I'm not exactly big on abortions but, it SHOULD be an option! Let's say a girl is raped and it was a particularly horrendous ordeal for her that she'd prefer to forget all about once they catch the fucker and toss his ass in jail but, she winds up pregnant because of the rape! WHY should she be FORCED to go through the entire pregnancy and have the kid and have it be a CONSTANT reminder to her the rest of her life how the kid came to be? She'd also probably have to eventually deal with the father in more legal matters over the kid: visitation rights, etc.. And, what if she was only 13 years old when she was raped? Okay, there's adoption but, what happens if the kid eventually wants to find their real parents? What if, like with my ex-fiance, having a kid turned out to be a life-threatening thing?

[KimmyKimmy]

I agree with that, and I think in a case like that, you wouldn't need to have the abortion just prior to birth.

[FunkyMonkee]

Nope. Sadly, we got it shortly after we found out she was pregnant. We WERE planing on keeping it and I was looking forward to having a little girl (she'd be at least 27 by now) but, her Dr. told her that she'd have to spend the entire 9 months in bed and, even then, there was a slim chance they'd both survive.

[KimmyKimmy]

That's really sad.

[FunkyMonkee]

I know! Thank you!
It would've like watching her grow up when she was a little girl in India.
One time, I yelled into her belly, "I LOVE YOU!" A few weeks later, we had to abort! :-(

[Waldoe]

Orange man Bad (for liberals)

[KimmyKimmy]

And MSNBC is running out of ways to milk that theme on a daily basis. Maybe in a year or so they will face the fact that Trump is no longer the president.

[Waldoe]

he is an easy Target, and I hope he runs for another term or 2

[KimmyKimmy]

I asked someone on here why the late night comedians don't go after Biden, like they did with Trump.
The guy said I was full of shit, and that they go after Biden just as much as Trump.
Biden takes a note card out of his pocket, and tells America that 350 million Americans have died from Covid!
I could write 10,000 jokes on that theme, but Joey is off limits.

[Waldoe]

I could not agree more

[ObscuredBeyond]

If anything, Trump didn't go far enough. He needed to promote Abolish Human Abortion, and decimate the Dem's money laundering, and present damning evidence of it being so while delivering the SotU, as if he were a prosecutor building a case. He needed to lay down indictments so hard, it made lazy ass Barr squirm in his seat, ready to flee to the bathroom to deal with the subsequent incontinence over everything he was failing to prosecute. Trump needed to speak with thunder, and make Dems fear fire and brimstone. Instead, he settled for half measures. The wolves saw that as weakness. The rest is history.

Any president who avoids doing what he must, according to the law he swore to uphold, for fear of being assassinated, fails to understand that this is to be an expected occupational hazard. Since JFK died, we've had nothing but garbage presidents. Reagan was almost assassinated, because he tried to be a Quarter Pounder rather than a cat turd like the rest. But we needed a 12oz filet mignon with Greek salad and choice champagne, not a Happy Meal. Every time we elect someone slightly better than a cat turd, the CIA commits sedition. Be it through assassination attempts, or electoral coups, with their own fellow PsOS on the benches backing them up. Trump settled for being a cat's half-chewed tuna, rather than a turd. Biden is a turd from a sodomized lizard, rescued from a gay bar where drugs were aplenty being abused.

[KimmyKimmy]

What law did he not uphold?

[ObscuredBeyond]

President is the top cop, and must prosecute directly if the attorney general is derelict. He handled the swamp with kid gloves.

[KimmyKimmy]

OK. I get it. I thought you were being serious, but I see what you're doing.

[NaultD]

1.3 percent of abortions were performed at or greater than 21 weeks of gestation in 2015. In contrast, 91.1 percent were performed at or before 13 weeks and 7.6 percent at 14 to 20 weeks.

Late term abortions are very rare to begin with. It's safe enough to assume that parents are wanting the baby. The reality is that 1.3 abortions are heart breaking complications that no one in this world wanted to face. Babies that created bubbles in the brain so painful that they will never experience falling asleep before dying. Whats the right decision dying before being born and call it mercy? Or being born just to suffer and call it life? Only the mother can know.

That's why I'm pro choice.

[NaultD]

Also

[KimmyKimmy]

You created your own reality to support your answer.

[NaultD]

What the fuck does that mean?

[rcljr]

A very reasonable request. It wasn’t a demand. Do you know how many childless couples are looking to adopt? There’s no reason for abortion other than rape/incest, danger to the mother’s physical health or extreme damage to the fetus. and quit honestly I think if they had their way, they would allow abortions up to 18 years of age.

[KimmyKimmy]

Even though I'm poor and happy, my brother and his wife are not hurting for money. I just talked to my sister-in-law about what it took for her to adopt a dog, and I thought she was joking. I thought you handed them the money and they handed you the dog. LOL

One of the radio guys I listen to, went with his wife to China to get a baby.
But my question isn't about abortion, it's about late term abortion. A guy on this thread just said there is no such thing, but that doesn't change my point. Why didn't Nancy and Chuck stand and applaud Trump on this?

[Stoner710]

Of course he was a unborn child can feel pain at 12 weeks. So think when these women get abortions after 3 months the baby can feel it’s arms and legs being chopped off and it’s skull being crushed this is why I’m prolife not pro death

[KimmyKimmy]

I'm not wise enough to have the answers, but if this would have been Sleepy Joe's state of the union address, you know that Nancy would be the first to jump out of her seat and clap.

[Dragonpurple]

There are people that think abortion is anything after intercourse, I happen to think the morning after pill is not abortion. In my area if a woman reports a rape, goes to get the medical exam, they offer the pill to prevent conception.

There is also a 2 to 3 year waiting list to adopt a newborn, there is no way that someone who does not want a child will have to raise a child they do not want.

I do not think he was being unreasonable, if you've ever watched those late term abortion video's when the child is screaming in pain, you can see it clearly hurts them and there are people who came out while this process was going on, that lived to be adults. With limbs cut off and deformed.

[msc545]

The morning after pill prevents the fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus. Since I believe that life begins at the moment of conception, I believe that this constitutes an abortion. If the egg were not fertilized, it would not, in my view, be an abortion.

[Dragonpurple]

@msc545 That was exactly my point, there are different views on when life actually starts. This is the one subject that science or scientists don't seem to come out and say, life starts at conception OR it starts at (insert day or week, etc...) especially from liberals. They always point to science but not in cases of abortion, I suspect they do not like the answer.

I'm against abortion, but I'm okay with it in cases of rape, with the morning after pill but not a month later when she decides to report it.

[msc545]

The thing about rape is that committing a second crime (murder) does not cancel out the crime of the rape. She can have the child adopted - there is no need or reason to murder it.

[Nick473]

The problem is the mother that hates her child and kills it. Not the baby. If they dont want the baby they should give it up for adoption to someone who will love them. There are systems in place and killing a baby just before birth is no different than killing one just after birth. Its cold blooded murder and she should have her tubes tied if she cannot respect life and the consequences of premature sex

[KimmyKimmy]

I agree with that.

[Dragonpurple]

Not to mention there is a very long waiting list to adopt newborns, but the pro-choice crowd get stuck on the fact that there is a lot of problem teenagers needing to be adopted first, as if that is the same thing.

[anylolone]

I was already going to ask "which video, goddamn it!"
But you put it in the update.

"To prevent the damage to the dignity of every person", he's right there.
I would rather be dead than being raised by a mother who would kill me, but I would rather be raised by a mother who'd kill me than have murderers walk free.
For me the bad should be around when the baby is viable outside of the mother, which is a bit above 5 months. (yes, there has been premature 5month pregnancies where the kids survive.)

[KimmyKimmy]

I'm not sure why people can't find the video.

[anylolone]

When your question is presented in the feed, the video doesn't show. But if you click it, it does show.
probably because it's an update.

[KimmyKimmy]

Ok, I was wondering how that worked.

[JClone55]

"I also stated that I'm now pro abortion, because I realized that I'd MUCH rather be dead, than to have a mother who wished I was dead. "

Young lady. . . that is gold. Perfectly said.

[KimmyKimmy]

It's just something I realized one day during one of these debates. My brother and I grew up poor, but we never even knew we were poor. Mac and cheese for dinner on a snowy Christmas... life was good!

[JClone55]

Well poverty sometimes has a way of building character. And that quote said it all kid. Again, very nice.

[pppppkk]

if anyone researched anything, you’d all know that there is literally an act in place where doctors aren’t even allowed to abort the baby after a certain amount of weeks of pregnancy because it is fatally dangerous to both parties. only under extreme circumstances where it is beneficial to the mother is abortion allowed after a certified amount of time and that is literally only to save the woman’s life

[KimmyKimmy]

Do you think babies should be aborted prior to birth, if they're healthy babies?

[pppppkk]

no i don’t. but i definitely support pro choice. if a woman wants to or needs to abort her baby, that is her business and not mine

[KimmyKimmy]

Then you, I and Trump are all in agreement.

[help_me_getaboy]

Having an abortion during your late stages of pregnancy is extremely risky. The most you would do at nine months is cause complications to the pregnancy, a premature birth or kill yourself in the process. And for that reason yes, it's not worth that risk not because of the unborn baby but because of the mother's health as well. 👍

[KimmyKimmy]

Would you kill the baby after it was born?

[help_me_getaboy]

Of course not. I'm just talking about how the mother will also be at risk if she were to 'abort' a child at nine months which is further reason to not do this.

[KimmyKimmy]

Good, you agree with Trump.

[help_me_getaboy]

So what are your views on the matter? Since mine seem to be so wrong.

[KimmyKimmy]

Kill the baby as soon as you can.

[help_me_getaboy]

I agree with that too, it should be a fetus by that point. And nine months is just too late, it's so dangerous that the mother is probably more likely to die than the baby so it's not worth it. That's all I'm saying. Or do you think that the mother should risk her life trying to abort the practically fully grown baby in her belly?

[KimmyKimmy]

Lemme guess... you never watched the video?

[exitseven]

Abortion is something I do not know the answer to. I just know what the answer isn't. It is not having an abortion ten minutes before you go into labor.

[KimmyKimmy]

No one this side of Heaven knows the answer. And admitting that, is the best answer. Is Coke better than Pepsi? Is Ford better than Chevy? (OK, that was a bad example, because we know how that would go)

Should we be vegetarians are carnivores? What is the right thing to do?

I have no clue.

Maybe it's just a test.
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But Trump played the Democrats like a Stradivarius violin. He made them look like monsters, and they gladly played the part.

[exitseven]

i switched to Pepsi when Coke started making their employees go to brainwashing classes. I bought a Ford this time around instead of a Chevy because it just seemed like a better truck,

[KimmyKimmy]

I also switched to Pepsi, even though I think Coke is better tasting. It's goofy how corporations side with the tiny, woke, minority. But, Pepsi accepts that I'm white, so I'm going with them.

[exitseven]

knew I was not the only one. I have also pretty much stopped watching sports. I was never a big NFL fan but I used to like to go to a couple of baseball games in the summer. They will have to carry on without me. I won't waste my time to watch people disrespect the American Flag and National Anthem.

[KimmyKimmy]

I've always never been interested in sports, so they won't know the difference if I don't watch. But I know people that were avid watchers, that just turned it off.

If these pampered sports millionaires really wanted to make a stand, they wouldn't take a knee at the game, they'd just quit the sport and go work at Walmart. But that will never happen, because they're full of shit.

[exitseven]

yes, they want everyone to think they are just like the common folk.

[slatyb]

Just prior to birth? No one does that or has ever. He said this to raise anger in his baae, eager to believe anything outrageous about his opponents. No physician will perform a third trimester abortion except in extreme circumstances: to save the life of the mother or because the fetus is not viable. if the fetus is viable but the mother is in danger, they will perform a C- section and put the baby in a NICU just as they would following any premature delivery.

[KimmyKimmy]

I'm glad you agree with Trump on this and not the monsters who wouldn't applaud.

[slatyb]

I don't. Her implied that this is happening and it is not and never has. It was a thinly veiled lie.

[KimmyKimmy]

If it was happening, would you even give a shit?

[slatyb]

Do you give a shit about women who have been impregnated as a result of non-consensual sex? Women carrying a fetus almost certain to die the womb? Women who find themselves unexpectedly pregnant due to the failure of contraception?

[KimmyKimmy]

I like lemonade on a hot day.

[slatyb]

That's what I thought. Like so many prohibitionists you only care about forced birth, not at all about living mothers or their children. It's all about punishing women for having unapproved sex.

[sawno]

I do not think this is unreasonable at all. You should decide as soon as possible after finding out if your not willing to keep the child. Nobody is going to convince me they needed months of being obviously pregnant to decide they no longer wanted a kid.

[FoghornLeghorn99]

Viabilty occurs much sooner than 9 months.

A woman can have a C section at 5 months and the baby will most likely be a healthy person.

[KimmyKimmy]

My question is all about the people at the state of the union who hated Trump's message. In my opinion, they looked like monsters.

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

No and there needs to be some kind of protection against this because thats homicide.

[KimmyKimmy]

Yes, and Chucky Schumer was smiling.

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

don't know who that is, but sounds like a creep

[KimmyKimmy]

If you haven't yet, watch the video. You won't believe what you see. This is Chucky

[Likes2drive]

That’s illegal and immoral at that point in time, usually it’s up to 3 months at most, I’m surprised they would even consider that

[Likes2drive]

Someone is taking it the wrong way, he just said they are making it illegal for late term abortions , not sure what other people are hearing, it is weird them smiling about it

[KimmyKimmy]

Chuck Schumer found this all to be funny. I would be all for him being aborted, tomorrow.

[Likes2drive]

Yeah I don’t know what he thought was so funny

[mrkdvsn]

Not unreasonable. And babies can feel pain WAY before birth

[KimmyKimmy]

It just defies logic that the dems didn't applaud. It would have made them look less like Satanists.
Trump played them and they fell for it.

[mrkdvsn]

Yeah, it just shows how far gone these Leftist Dems are.
I believe they been permanently handed-over to a debased mind.

[KimmyKimmy]

Hopefully karma is a real thing.

[EternallyCorrect]

He wasn't. There are some sociopaths who think that it's perfectly fine, for any reason at all.

[Pterodon]

He was not. Here’s the thing these pro choicers just don’t get. They claim it’s their body when the reality is it isn’t. It’s the child inside them bodies

[Pterodon]

I think pro choicers view a fetus as a parasite

[rcljr]

Leftist shitbags would allow abortions up to 18 years old if they could.

[KimmyKimmy]

So if it was Sleepy Joe saying the very same thing, would Nancy and Chuck jump up and applaud? LOL

[Assi2k]

Wait what? "After birth"? Uhmmmmm... Is anyone gonna say it?

[KimmyKimmy]

Mostly up until birth, but some people absolutely believe in killing babies after birth.


I was driving in my neighborhood, and I came across a little girl in a fancy car, like this. (both of her parents were with her and it was safe)

The little girl was frantically waving at me. I wondered why. I was a complete stranger. Why would she do this?

I, of course waved back and smiled, and told her how awesome her car was. Her and her parents loved that comment.

But later I thought about why she wanted or needed the approval of a stranger. Does she want the world to know that she matters? Does she want the world to know that she's relevant?

I don't have the answers and I don't pretend to know the answers.

[msc545]

I don't like Trump, but I find no fault with that speech.

[Dargil]

Not unreasonable at all.

[KimmyKimmy]

I think it's a very reasonable compromise, and that still wasn't good enough for the Dems.

[Surely]

Everyone know how a partial birth abortion is performed.
Check it out if you do not

[KimmyKimmy]

Like you just said, "everyone knows." I don't need to check anything out.

[ThisAndThat]

Abortion should be illegal at any stage.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

So are you pro-late-term abortion though?

[KimmyKimmy]

I like lemonade on a hot day.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

Okay... about the question though.

[KimmyKimmy]

Or iced tea with lemon.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

What about post natal abortion?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No. He's right about abortion.

[sage2021]

Where. Is the video?

[KimmyKimmy]

You must be viewing this on a mobile device, because sometimes videos don't appear on that platform. The video is at the top of the screen, but I'll post it here for you. I hope you can see it, but maybe it's best that you don't. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXRTnD7JEWQ

[Not_Average]

Not at all

[jimmy2]

I love the Texas Law

[ThisAndThat]

From what I understand the abortion ban law was decided based on a heartbeat or in other words empathy. I get the empathy part and God commands that. They can't prove the child can't feel pain and either way it's still murder. Nothing I can do about it but can't won't accept it.

[staybehind2]

I'm undecided 🤔🤔