This topic was brought up several years ago. FSU has had discussions with the Seminole Native Americans, who've said it's okay.
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I think minority mascots should be banned. White people/cultures only. Naming the team after the european culture that conquered the area makes more sense anyway, so it should be the FSU conquistadors or something.
Have you actually talked to them? The same thing happened in my state, the native Americans came out and stood against petitions to change it. The thing is, unless you're a member of the tribe you don't get to decide what's offensive to them, only they get to decide that. Nine times out of 10 the wines that complain about the team names are angry, entitled white people, not actual native Americans..
@worldscolide you raise a good point. But plenty of Native Americans are very pissed. They were the ones who started the whole movement back in the Sixties and occupied the island of Alcatraz in protest. I only learned about it in history books but @OlderAndWiser you were alive back then surely you remember. We have to respect the feelings of those who are still angry as well as those who aren’t.
Do you remember when the redskins changed their name? When a poll of actual native Americans was done it was found that only 9% of them were actually offended by it, the remaining ones were either in the I dont care group, or the I like it group. It was mostly angry, entitled white folks that forced it to be changed, not native Americans.. Again white people don't get to have an opinion on weather or not something is offensive to native Americans, to suggest they do is simply racist..
"The protest group chose the name Indians of All Tribes (IOAT) for themselves.[1] IOAT claimed that, under the Treaty of Fort Laramie between the U. S. and the Lakota tribe, all retired, abandoned, or out-of-use federal land was to be returned to the Indians who once occupied it. As Alcatraz penitentiary had been closed on March 21, 1963, and the island had been declared surplus federal property in 1964, a number of Red Power activists felt that the island qualified for a reclamation by Indians."
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Isn't it more racist to erase Native Americans from history?
It would be best to let Native Americans to decide that
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This topic was brought up several years ago. FSU has had discussions with the Seminole Native Americans, who've said it's okay.
I think minority mascots should be banned. White people/cultures only. Naming the team after the european culture that conquered the area makes more sense anyway, so it should be the FSU conquistadors or something.
Seminol is an actual Tribe. I wonder if they have permission to use there name?
They do
@Iron_Man then why would this be a problem at all?
It shouldn’t be people are not familiar with the situation
Nope, not at all.
Ah the conquered ruling the conquer... only in nutty white nations.
No, the Seminoles of Florida were never conquered.
Offense can only be taken. It can't be given.
It’s very dehumanizing, so yes
Why do you think it is dehumanizing?
Usually mascots are animal like figures. I believe we should also do away with Boston Celtics too just to be fair.
You seem to be getting offended on behalf of many diverse groups. Isn't that tiring?
If you have to ask and dig to consider if something is racist, perhaps it's fine to ignore.
They shouldn’t be forced to change it but it is a little offensive to Native Americans especially members of the Seminole Nation
Have you actually talked to them? The same thing happened in my state, the native Americans came out and stood against petitions to change it. The thing is, unless you're a member of the tribe you don't get to decide what's offensive to them, only they get to decide that. Nine times out of 10 the wines that complain about the team names are angry, entitled white people, not actual native Americans..
Yea natives must be pissed that attack helicopters are named after them too.
@grega239 Why "must" they be?
@worldscolide you raise a good point. But plenty of Native Americans are very pissed. They were the ones who started the whole movement back in the Sixties and occupied the island of Alcatraz in protest. I only learned about it in history books but @OlderAndWiser you were alive back then surely you remember. We have to respect the feelings of those who are still angry as well as those who aren’t.
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Do you remember when the redskins changed their name? When a poll of actual native Americans was done it was found that only 9% of them were actually offended by it, the remaining ones were either in the I dont care group, or the I like it group. It was mostly angry, entitled white folks that forced it to be changed, not native Americans.. Again white people don't get to have an opinion on weather or not something is offensive to native Americans, to suggest they do is simply racist..
@worldscolide agreed! But lots of Native Americans don’t like stuff like that. They occupied Alcatraz over it!
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"The protest group chose the name Indians of All Tribes (IOAT) for themselves.[1] IOAT claimed that, under the Treaty of Fort Laramie between the U. S. and the Lakota tribe, all retired, abandoned, or out-of-use federal land was to be returned to the Indians who once occupied it. As Alcatraz penitentiary had been closed on March 21, 1963, and the island had been declared surplus federal property in 1964, a number of Red Power activists felt that the island qualified for a reclamation by Indians."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Alcatraz
Thank you
No it's not racist
So my question
Is why is it racist?
Yes, that is the question I am asking. If you don't want to respond, you don't need to respond. If you want to post your own question, feel free to do so.
I answered your question
I say"Hell No"it's not racist
My question to other people
Is why do they think the Seminoles mascot is racist?
"Hell No, it's not racist" didn't appear in your original response. Not on what I'm looking at.
Nope
If anything it’s more flattering than racist
Heck no.
D. Fuck wokism.
Yes it is
Why is it racist?