I think censorship in all of its forms is an abomination and I oppose it all the time 24/7.


I think big tech is going to get handled in the next couple of years. Politicians don’t like getting censored either they will get them for these last few years. Both sides will be in on it but the right will initiate the stripping them of these monopolies. Face book Google and Twitter are in trouble and the right wants to completely ban TikTok which I see happening because we are also going to end up at odds with China probably sooner then later. They will say to many minors being adversely affected by it , and that it has connections to the Chinese government even though 2 American companies supposed American companies “Oracle “ and “Walmart “ supposedly own the majority of TIKTOK. I doubt a open war. China isn’t known for warfare outside of its own borders unless it has a huge advantage. It will be economic. Big tech will be knocked of its high horse they made it personal by banning and censoring politicians and about 75 million conservatives or more.
They are classified as public utilities. Social media will be too, at some point.
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Insanely Creepy Ways Facebook is Spying on You Right Now
Facebook is listening…no, really
It’s not just fun and games.
If you’re not stalking your ex boyfriend or watching cute cat videos, what do you spend hours doing on Facebook? Probably playing on one of their games or apps, like Farmville, Words with Friends or even Skype. Most of these Facebook apps don’t cost you a dime…but the creators still pocket some money anyway by learning about their uses (through their Facebook pages) and selling that info to advertisers.
Facebook knows what you like…even if you don’t click the “like” button.
“Private” messages may be a misnomer
You’ve told your friends things over Facebook message that you wouldn’t dare say in person or even over the phone. That embarrassing first kiss with your newest guy. What you really think of your boss during your lunch break. Even the time you thought those pants really did make Jodi’s butt look fat, though you obviously didn’t tell her that at the time. I hate to break it to you, but your bestie probably isn’t the only one who’s seen those messages. Sending a link in a private Facebook message reportedly increases the “Like counter” on the third-party website where the link originated. What does that mean for you? It implies that Facebook is scanning your private messages to search for shared links, according to Emil Protalinksi. Facebook has even confirmed that information, emphasizing that it is only done for third-party websites with Facebook plugins (and not Facebook pages). All of this goes to say that you might want to be careful what you, well, share. Because that sexy picture you send your boyfriend may be seen by more people than you planned
Facebook is a front for the CIA?
Now, this claim might sound like a bit of a reach, but plenty of people believe that Facebook is using its reach to aid the national government. Sandeep Parwaga points out various headlines that show the “true character of CIAbook” including: Facebook’s Zuckerberg Says The Age of Privacy is Over; The Face of Facebook; Facebook & Social Media: A Convenient Cover for Spying, and several more.
Meanwhile, Anarchitext uses YouTube to illustrate the connection between Facebook and the CIA. Some might call these clips the “true story” or the “behind-the-scenes” section of the popular Facebook film, “The Social Network.”
You’re sharing more than messages with friends using Facebook’s Messenger app
Remember when Facebook made you download its new Facebook Messenger App a few years ago? Well, you may have signed onto more than you bargained for. The Huffington Post revealed a frighteningly long list of all of the permissions granted to the app. Some of scariest ones? How about:
Read and modify your contacts as well as your calendar events plus confidential information
Use your device’s location and phone and/or its call history
Use your device’s text messaging and/or multimedia messaging services…[including] the ability to use text, picture or video messages
Use files or data stored on your device, and use your device’s camera and/or microphone,
Even if these permissions aren’t so different from the ones on the main Facebook app or other apps – as some sites claim – do you really want to take that chance? Apparently, Twitter is undecided:
Then you need your tiny fucking head examined.
Tech companies are private companies - not government agencies. As a result they have contracts and terms of service that you agree to when you sign up to use their services. Electric and phone companies can deny you service too if they catch you breaking their terms.
That you want to be a dick, is your right ; but they have the legal right to deny you service for being a dick, and you agreed to that.
You also cannot claim censorship, when you're the one breaking the terms you agreed to.
It's like you signing a lease on an apartment which does not allow dogs. Then running a breeding business on premises, and claiming the landlord hates dogs, therefore you can run your business.
The courts would rightly laugh at you as they throw out your case.
I think there logic is simply that on the internet there are other choices and website. Not all of them ban speech.
But, this doesn't recognize how much websites like Facebook, Google, Apple store and others have monopolized the internet under one umbrella with the same policies of banning speech and under the fraudulent mischaracterization of being hate speech.
I agree with you they can't deny you service based on speech
our Internet and Cable had a major outage the other night
no Internet and no cable TV yes Xfinity services are for the books
I have been calling the Comcast Executive Team to get a refund taken
off my bill but so far they are ignoring my calls.
Yeah, Big Tech is violating antitrust law, and since they're coordinating with the White House on the censorship, they're violating not only constitutional rights but likely a whole other host of federal statutes.
The first amendment doesn't apply to private companies, so what constitutional right are they violating by banning users?
Users who violate their rules by the way.
tough one. google, att, verizon, etc should be held to standards of "utilities" like water as well as communication channels like ABC NBC, etc.
As far as free speech vs hate speech, thats even more of an ethical dilemma.
Use duckduckgo or brave instead. Also get rid of social media and stop giving them ar revenue. Also start enabling ad blocker plus and get a vpn. You've just given them all a big middle finger. If more people stopped complaining and just did this they'd buckle or allow for free soeech platforms to grow.
Utility companies (electric, gas, telephone, internet, cable) are regulated in each state by a Public Utilities or Service Commission (PUC or PSC), which enforces a set of legal rules on the companies. One of those rules defines the very specific and hard-to-do requirements to deny service to someone.
Big tech companies have no such regulation and are free to enforce whatever rules they want.
They are regulated utilities in the USA. Frankly internet is a utility and should also be regulated the sane way. Most places only have one provider and there's almost no competition so customers get the shaft.
they can do whatever the fuck they want. they are private companies. nobody is entiteled to their services.
imagine google would spread lies in the first 10 results. nobody would know the truth anymore.
"imagine google would spread lies in the first 10 results. nobody would know the truth anymore."
That already is current reality lol.
So I guess you are cool if an electric company decides to shut off your electricity because of your politics? And then they tell all the other electric companies and they blacklist you too so you can't use electricity?
I know it is. But it's way worse than that, cause it's not just google but all the big private online platforms like Facebook and Twitter.
Here in Germany it's even so bad that the media were literally paid several hundert millions by the government last year. Corruption has never been so huge and so obvious.
Dude. They are regulated. What's happening is the result of regulations. Government and media are working together across country borders in a historical case of globalist conspiracy that has never existed before.
We, the people are being parented like some stupid child with legitimation that is crumbling away once you take a closer look at the facts.
Though most people aren't looking. Nobody reads the sources. If anyone did, that's literally all you need to do, to see how everything is a lie.
well "regulation" is not inherently a good thing. and regulation is happening 100%. just not the good kind. that's what i'm saying. i mean not "good" for the majority of people but "good" for those few that massively benefit.
The only way to shut these platforms off is to no longer use them but they bought youtube and a few other services so you have to mess with them. I already don't use most of social media to begin with
Tech companies own the platforms you're referring to, they make the rules, and can censor all the lies and horseshit they want. The first amendment doesn't apply to private platforms.
Phone calls are usually between 2 people and aren't broadcast to millions of listeners, so why would phone companies care?
They are regulated public utilities, and additionally, they have no right to listen to your conversations that are not public, to begin with.
Telephone and electric companies can deny you service based on speech. It's just there isn't really a mechanism for abusing a telephone or power line for the purpose of spamming hate speech and misinformation.
Private companies are allowed to block spammers from using their platform to spam. If republicans don't like it they should start doing their job instead of relying entirely on spamming misinformation and hate speech to stay in power.
No they can't lol.
I can make a drug deal on my phone, I can say as many racial epithets as I want but they cannot deny me service.
"Phone companies have legal status as “common carriers”; this was basically an arrangement that said that they could not interfere with or even monitor traffic they carry in exchange for being exempted from being held legally responsible for the content of that traffic.
So if you use the phone network to set up a drug deal, or to discuss a kidnapping, or anything else, the phone company isn’t responsible. But at the same time, they can’t prevent you from talking with a friend about what lousy service you’re getting from them or how expensive they are."
www.quora.com/Are-phone-companies-allowed-to-censor-speech-they-disagree-with-like-social-media-Why-or-why-not
You're comparing apples to oranges, really. Not being allowed to "interfere" is not the same thing as just refusing service. The thing is no one can spam effectively with just one phone line, so no one really cares enough to shut it down. But indeed you can report telephone spammers to the FTC. I don't know the outcome but surely they wouldn't have a mechanism for reporting it if they were legally forbidden from doing anything at all.
But that's besides the point. Censorship is necissarily a government function. Even the 1st amendment starts off "Congress shall pass no law..." It doesn't make any guarantees about what rules private companies shall or shall not do. Indeed the whole point behind the Republican push to privatize everything over the last 5 decades was to hand over power to those not constrained by the constitution. If only someone had been complaining about this very predictable outcome pretty much nonstop for the last 5 decades... Oh wait.
Public utilities can deny you service for good reason, such as not paying the bill or spamming calls.
Funnily enough, they can't stop you from threatening to kidnap people and so on. Unlike social media platforms, hate speech will never get you taken off a telecommunications service.
Your electric won't run out either because you suddenly became a Nazi.
I am very firm in my stance that censorship has no place in a free society. Obama was right when he said the answer to hate speech is not oppression but more speech.
Again, you're comparing apples to oranges. You won't get denied electricity for being a Nazi because there is no way to use your power line to spam people with Nazi propaganda, or to spam anyone at all, so no one has thought of a creating a check to it.
Anyway, so are you adamantly opposed to an email spam box, then? Do you routinely read every word of your emails from The Prince of Nigeria to make sure the spammer isn't censored?
Just because Twitter and you agree to Terms of Service, which you then break (so they remove service) has fuck all to do with phone and electricity providers.
Because big tech can afford the better Legal department.
However, these mega companies are beginning to get out of their depth, or overstepping the mark legally...
Traditional business are still "pay to use"
Those companies are being paid by their customers, unlike social media. They wouldn’t want to deny service and lose that income.
Because big tech changes their logos to rainbow every now and then. They're part of the resistance against the tyranny of the common man.
Because telephone companies don't give a shit of what you say by text or by call to another person.
But big tech can't have certain things in public for everyone to see.
Do you want to make all big tech owned by the state?
Big companies own the state... my friend that's one of the world's greatest problems.
You are from the US right? Doesn't your population defends capitalism fiercely?
Most Americans realize we are currently in a late stage capitalistic hellhole and that a little bit of socialism sprinkled in is actually healthy.
Are fire departments, police and so on private? Are the roads private? Why should everything be private and capitalistic? The state needs to intervene on some level.
In a purely privatized, capitalist society people would have to pay to have fire departments put out fires and if they didn't pay the fire departments then their house would just burn down. Police would not help you unless you paid them, they would be like private security.
Best countries in the world right now are capitalists, but with heavy socialist policies. Like free healthcare and education.
they are NOT Public communication companies... no one is listening to you from either company
Because they don't act like publishers.
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