I find it challenging to argue for or against the OP’s premise. The weights and standards aren’t the same for the UK and US. The situation is objectively inconclusive.
A) no idea B) I get the whole anti gun thing but I’m pro gun bc Idt we can 100% enforce gun laws on criminals C) I’ve known people who own guns and I’ve shot guns and I don’t know anyone who’s down homicide via a firearm. from what I hear it’s basically just about having a good safety mindset around guns
Guns clearly make things vastly more dangerous , and the debate carries on until the next massive shooting , and then more guns will be sold yet again. Ludicrous and inane actions.
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It's because there are a lot more black people in the U. S. Blacks make up 13% of the population but according to government statistics, black men commit half the murders in the country. Almost all their victims are other black men. Look at Chicago. Handguns are illegal in Chicago and the young black men are killing each other like crazy there. Black on black crime is a huge problem.
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Those statistics are flawed and misleading. Nowhere in that graph does it say anything about gun violence. Of course the US is going to have more murders than the UK. The US is much larger in terms of land mass, and population. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.
Plus the Democrats allow all the bad people from other countries in and steal and kill. Their countries allow their hard cases to leave.
UK allows their women to be raped out in the open by Muslim men and tell women to dress differently and do nothing. Also , UK just doesn't charge people with crimes and so some killings are not recorded as killings
Because we are a country that does nothing to try and help reform our prisoners. We lock them up then just let them back out. They have no new skills or knowledge so they just go back to what they know.
Higher population = Higher crime. Also, as a guy in the UK. Just wait a few more decades. Trash from the middle east are coming in droves. Terrorist attacks will soon be the norm here.
if young black men committed murder at the same rate as other demographics, the murder rate in the USA would be about the same as the safest countries with strict gun control. The answer to your question is multiculturalism
Except for, the UK is also a multicultural country, and has no school shootings and far less murders per capita. I don't need to remind you that most mass shootings are committed by White men.
@Datboi65 over 50% of murders is the USA are committed by young black men who are 3% of the population. Once the UK Muslim population expands enough they will be in the same boat. Most mass murders should be committed by whites because there are 5x as many whites. Blacks commit more mass shootings per capita when you consider the % of the population that is black
That's not only the most absurd thing I've ever heard, but it's far from being factually accurate. What your argument appears to be is that violence is in their DNA, as opposed to being conditioned to be violent due to where you grow up, which is just about the dumbest thing you can say. If you look closely at the numbers, you will find that A: the population is about evenly represented per capita, and B: in cases where White men are shooters, there are more victims in average. And what's the excuse every time? Mental illness. Las Vegas shooter carried out the deadliest shooting in American history, no backlash towards White people. If minorities treated you the same way you treat them, we would have another civil war.
Actions are defined by experiences. I have high testosterone, and I haven't been in a fight since forever. This what you don't understand. Relation isn't equal to causation. Sounds to me like you believe a lot of pseudoscientific bullshit theories.
Not supported by any outcomes. The probability of an individual going into a life of crime is a multi-variant equation that is determined by more than one factor. A tough upbringing, lack of male role/father figure model, poor education, socioeconomic group and testosterone count plays a negligible role but is also considered as a factor. To say that EVERYTHING ELSE doesn't matter is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Two things: 1) in any Western country, Black people are always at a disadvantage. In the United States, the UK, Aboriginals in Australia ans so on. You get the point. 2) in other countries, Black folks don't commit nearly as much crime per capita as in the United States. That's also reflected by the prison population percentage. So, what does that tell us? It tells us that the American approach is very flawed. You put someone in a shitty situation, and then you punish them when they didn't know any better. Black people that come from a middle-class background are far less likely to engage in any type of criminal activity than working class people who live in the inner-city. Does that mean they have any less testosterone? Use your brain.
@Datboi65 don't let the facts get in the way. that's why Africa is so safe and advanced and why there are so many Asians in the NFL and so many black Nobel prize winners in science fields. Enjoy your fantasy
You still haven't given a convincing counter-argument to my last point. How is it that Black people who are in the middle-class are less likely to commit crime than those in the inner-city, when they are both from the same ethnicity? Also, believe it or not Botsawna has a global peace ranking at number 41, while the United States is at number 128. Yes, some African countries are safer than the west. Mauritius is another country that is high up in the rankings, and so is Burkina Faso, Ghana and Tanzania all in the top 50. You get the point. Also, it's definitely a no-brainer that the difference in the educational system and school districts set up between White neighborhoods and Black neighborhoods is evident, and that's what contributed to the lack of education. Your arguments are very basic and they lack substance.
@Datboi65 you just want to hear what you want to hear. All of the countries you mention have a gdp per capita of about $3000. Why don't the black communities set up better schools and bring their kids to school? Yes, there are middle class blacks who are successful and productive, but no one is forcing the rest of them to get pregnant out of wedlock or throw their education away including thier affirmative action
OK. Your first argument is that Africa isn't safe, and when I called you out on your bullshit now it's gdp. Lmfao. Botswana has a gdp of 18,000 for the record, which is fairly decent but not too flashy. The world average is 12,000. You just refuse to admit that your logic is flawed. Getting pregnant out of wedlock happens due to poor sexual education and lack of a family unit. How many times do I have to repeat myself? Poor knowledge if contraception and no role models lead you down the path of making bad decisions. Goes back to the school districts.
@Datboi65 Yeah, you should go walk around these countries alone at night, especially if your white, good luck. Yeah, being born out of wedlock leads to having kids out of wedlock - no kidding?
What is the population of the UK versus the USA? That can dramatically change the numbers or outlook. I don't take sides in this issue, but I know numbers can be made to appear one way or another.
A larger overall population as well as surface area can influence the numbers. I am not an expert here, but it seems reasonable to dig deeper into the Individual major cities and see where the problem is in both countries, then examine why that may be. Not trying to argue the main point however. Just get a clearer understanding.
My point is that in Britain, they are brainwashed not to trust their cold, calculating fellow citizens with guns. Unfortunately, their match skills don't stop the Bank of England from going bankrupt on occasion. I've heard they've resorted to accepting scrap computer parts to mine the gold out of them.
Well the us is based on the cowboy romanticism. Google Canada gun stuff. Canadians have I believe average out fifteen firearms per household. Fairly safe place
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I find it challenging to argue for or against the OP’s premise. The weights and standards aren’t the same for the UK and US. The situation is objectively inconclusive.
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A) no idea B) I get the whole anti gun thing but I’m pro gun bc Idt we can 100% enforce gun laws on criminals C) I’ve known people who own guns and I’ve shot guns and I don’t know anyone who’s down homicide via a firearm.
from what I hear it’s basically just about having a good safety mindset around guns
Why is Swiss safer than UK when millions of men who served in Swiss army have full auto Assault rifles in their house lockers?
Agree. Its more about culture in society than it is guns themselves
But unlike America these men have had proper training and keep their guns securely locked away. They're not carrying them for self defense.
Whatever. There’s a small price to pay for the freedom we enjoy. Stay in the UK if lockdowns are your thing
@WhiteBoyChill A "small" price to pay? Thousands, if not millions dead each year you dismiss as being a "small price"?
@Gal67 millions is an exaggeration
@WhiteBoyChill Probably. Hundreds of thousands then.
Guns clearly make things vastly more dangerous , and the debate carries on until the next massive shooting , and then more guns will be sold yet again.
Ludicrous and inane actions.
It's because there are a lot more black people in the U. S. Blacks make up 13% of the population but according to government statistics, black men commit half the murders in the country. Almost all their victims are other black men. Look at Chicago. Handguns are illegal in Chicago and the young black men are killing each other like crazy there. Black on black crime is a huge problem.
Those statistics are flawed and misleading. Nowhere in that graph does it say anything about gun violence. Of course the US is going to have more murders than the UK. The US is much larger in terms of land mass, and population. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.
The USA is more dangerous because of armed American citizens, rather than armed criminals.
Hence why you're 3 times more likely to be killed by a US cop than a terrorist or goon.
Because
1) UK is different , the way you talk , act, and what you value
2) USA is more wealthy and have more to steal or kill for.
USA allows more freedoms than UK , So free to do what you want good or bad.
Plus the Democrats allow all the bad people from other countries in and steal and kill. Their countries allow their hard cases to leave.
UK allows their women to be raped out in the open by Muslim men and tell women to dress differently and do nothing. Also , UK just doesn't charge people with crimes and so some killings are not recorded as killings
Plus US Democrats let people right back on the street to commit same crimes over and over
We don't keep guns to keep us safe from each other, we keep guns to keep us safe from the government.
Oh boy this question again.
Hopefully the 4.15e10th time this is asked it finally settles things!
No explanation. El Salvador has a murder rate 10 tines that of the United States, and I don't think El Salvadorians are even allowed to own guns.
Because we are a country that does nothing to try and help reform our prisoners. We lock them up then just let them back out. They have no new skills or knowledge so they just go back to what they know.
The question is not "Why is the USA more dangerous than the UK?"
The question is "Why is the UK no longer a danger to the USA?"
Higher population = Higher crime. Also, as a guy in the UK. Just wait a few more decades. Trash from the middle east are coming in droves. Terrorist attacks will soon be the norm here.
The higher population was taken into consideration as a factor though.
if young black men committed murder at the same rate as other demographics, the murder rate in the USA would be about the same as the safest countries with strict gun control. The answer to your question is multiculturalism
Except for, the UK is also a multicultural country, and has no school shootings and far less murders per capita. I don't need to remind you that most mass shootings are committed by White men.
@Datboi65 over 50% of murders is the USA are committed by young black men who are 3% of the population. Once the UK Muslim population expands enough they will be in the same boat. Most mass murders should be committed by whites because there are 5x as many whites. Blacks commit more mass shootings per capita when you consider the % of the population that is black
That's not only the most absurd thing I've ever heard, but it's far from being factually accurate. What your argument appears to be is that violence is in their DNA, as opposed to being conditioned to be violent due to where you grow up, which is just about the dumbest thing you can say. If you look closely at the numbers, you will find that A: the population is about evenly represented per capita, and B: in cases where White men are shooters, there are more victims in average. And what's the excuse every time? Mental illness. Las Vegas shooter carried out the deadliest shooting in American history, no backlash towards White people. If minorities treated you the same way you treat them, we would have another civil war.
@Datboi65 yes, they have higher average testosterone which drives more aggression. Exactly correct
Actions are defined by experiences. I have high testosterone, and I haven't been in a fight since forever. This what you don't understand. Relation isn't equal to causation. Sounds to me like you believe a lot of pseudoscientific bullshit theories.
@Datboi65 theories supported by outcomes all over the world, mostly without exception
Not supported by any outcomes. The probability of an individual going into a life of crime is a multi-variant equation that is determined by more than one factor. A tough upbringing, lack of male role/father figure model, poor education, socioeconomic group and testosterone count plays a negligible role but is also considered as a factor. To say that EVERYTHING ELSE doesn't matter is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Two things: 1) in any Western country, Black people are always at a disadvantage. In the United States, the UK, Aboriginals in Australia ans so on. You get the point. 2) in other countries, Black folks don't commit nearly as much crime per capita as in the United States. That's also reflected by the prison population percentage. So, what does that tell us? It tells us that the American approach is very flawed. You put someone in a shitty situation, and then you punish them when they didn't know any better. Black people that come from a middle-class background are far less likely to engage in any type of criminal activity than working class people who live in the inner-city. Does that mean they have any less testosterone? Use your brain.
@Datboi65 don't let the facts get in the way. that's why Africa is so safe and advanced and why there are so many Asians in the NFL and so many black Nobel prize winners in science fields. Enjoy your fantasy
You still haven't given a convincing counter-argument to my last point. How is it that Black people who are in the middle-class are less likely to commit crime than those in the inner-city, when they are both from the same ethnicity? Also, believe it or not Botsawna has a global peace ranking at number 41, while the United States is at number 128. Yes, some African countries are safer than the west. Mauritius is another country that is high up in the rankings, and so is Burkina Faso, Ghana and Tanzania all in the top 50. You get the point. Also, it's definitely a no-brainer that the difference in the educational system and school districts set up between White neighborhoods and Black neighborhoods is evident, and that's what contributed to the lack of education. Your arguments are very basic and they lack substance.
@Datboi65 you just want to hear what you want to hear. All of the countries you mention have a gdp per capita of about $3000. Why don't the black communities set up better schools and bring their kids to school? Yes, there are middle class blacks who are successful and productive, but no one is forcing the rest of them to get pregnant out of wedlock or throw their education away including thier affirmative action
OK. Your first argument is that Africa isn't safe, and when I called you out on your bullshit now it's gdp. Lmfao. Botswana has a gdp of 18,000 for the record, which is fairly decent but not too flashy. The world average is 12,000. You just refuse to admit that your logic is flawed. Getting pregnant out of wedlock happens due to poor sexual education and lack of a family unit. How many times do I have to repeat myself? Poor knowledge if contraception and no role models lead you down the path of making bad decisions. Goes back to the school districts.
@Datboi65 Yeah, you should go walk around these countries alone at night, especially if your white, good luck. Yeah, being born out of wedlock leads to having kids out of wedlock - no kidding?
What is the population of the UK versus the USA? That can dramatically change the numbers or outlook. I don't take sides in this issue, but I know numbers can be made to appear one way or another.
Makes no difference because crime rates reflect crimes per x of population.
A larger overall population as well as surface area can influence the numbers. I am not an expert here, but it seems reasonable to dig deeper into the Individual major cities and see where the problem is in both countries, then examine why that may be. Not trying to argue the main point however. Just get a clearer understanding.
the only weapon the Brits have is mathematics, and there's a good reason for it
@bean2k21 I leave that to my wife. She has the math degree
My point is that in Britain, they are brainwashed not to trust their cold, calculating fellow citizens with guns. Unfortunately, their match skills don't stop the Bank of England from going bankrupt on occasion. I've heard they've resorted to accepting scrap computer parts to mine the gold out of them.
@bean2k21 I got ya. I was just kidding around though the story is true. Thanks for adding the detail tho.
Run the numbers per 100,000 and the rates are similar with the only change being weapon of choice.
Gun ownership isn't about personal defense. Its about power in the people.
Actually, we're not more dangerous. You guys have more gang-rapes than we do.
Well the us is based on the cowboy romanticism. Google Canada gun stuff. Canadians have I believe average out fifteen firearms per household. Fairly safe place