
How would you feel if your state or country banned contraceptives?


This was the case in Ireland and Italy.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-50-years-a-popes-birth-control-message-still-divides-catholics-1525962322
this all came about from the Popes - Humanae Vitae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanae_vitae
and the earlier Casti connubii - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casti_connubii
When people go on about contraception, they often fail to realise it is banned for certain Christian Denominations.
Ireland was a perfect storm, contraception was banned, abortions were banned.
Children were taken from mothers and put into religious care homes run by nuns etc.
i used to do some volunteer work when in Air Force and went to Namibia to help out on various projects, I was doing mainly driving and security but some stuff such as setting up tech or repairing it.
There was / is a lot of work done to reduce the spread of AIDS / HIV in Africa and key to that has been condoms and having more people use them, the work carried out by the UN and other agencies was actually doing well, then a bunch of Catholic missionaries arrived from the US and Europe, they then told everyone that it was a sin to use them and not to use contraception or be damned in hell type of thing.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-04119-9_5
The US particular in its stance towards contraception and religion really made a negative result in the fight against AIDS, in this case it was Bush and his ABC’s.
Those who are heavily into religion view contraception as a whole as against God and it is not a huge jump to see how the use of condoms could slip from what is already a poor sex education.
Why ban them if you can stop educating kids about them but tell them in church how it’s against gods will…
@chrismaster69 Condoms do not stand in the way of transmitting Aids, and contraceptive meds don't even begin to inhibit it. Only ascendance and monogamy will keep you from getting AIDs. Indeed that along with the need for stable families and long term security is the reason for marriage.
They are moving to ban a lot of stuff. The morning after pill, condoms, diaphragms, etc. These guys really know what they are doing.
@CasaNorba Oh, you so weak. China sure af doesn't want anything to do with Biden. Biden is trying to freeze out Russia and China and make them pariah states.
Trumpturds want the opposite.
i feel like republicans secretly admire the way XI runs things i his country tbh. they probably want to do the same in our country
I rather be weak then mentally challenged any day. judging by you're image I wouldn't be surprised if you're still one of the 0.1% of the population who still believes Osama Bin Laden did 9/11
till then fast forward to today I can now see that you're mentally challenged. I can also see you're also gullible enough to believe our fake tech censored news
"Biden is trying to freeze out Russia and China and make them pariah states"
lmao dude go back to the circus, Biden has been China's little bitch since before our last election. Xi Jinping bought his ass and paid him to fuck this country up like the way it is at the moment. and about Russia you might explaining why Putin never invaded any country when Trump was in term? if you put your amnesia aside you will also remember that Russia did invaded Georgia back when Obamatard was in term.
so till then, no buddy! the weak one is the person you see in the mirror
@CasaNorba " I wouldn't be surprised if you're still one of the 0.1% of the population who still believes Osama Bin Laden did 9/11"
ah we got a truther in our midst
@Still-alive talk about projection, the Alzheimer loser you voted for is already doing to this country exactly what Xi Jinping wants. explain to me why gas is $5 and our economy becoming more communist as months go by
@CasaNorba lol you're clearly projecting here buddy not any of us.
yeah @Still-alive go watch "Loose Changes" on youtube if you have the balls and the brains to do so
@CasaNorba i already saw that dumb shit long time ago. its all false lol. you're gullible af to believe in it
@Still-alive Well, actual Conservatives do not like anything about Russia or China in terms of governing philosophy. I admit that Bush did a lot of stupid stuff, basically beginning and ending with the Iraq War.
BUT HE NEVER TRIED TO SILENCE DISSENT. When people protested him, he said they had the right to do so. He never took offense, even when the lady who's son died in Iraq, protested outside of his ranch.
He knew that in a free and open society folks had the right to disagree.
But trumpturds are not like that at all. And they won't just silence disagreement, they will silence truth, fact, and objective analysis.
@Still-alive that was not the only documentary that proofs Bush was behind 9/11, though they did used a lot of fact and evidence to back up everything they claimed.
so with that said you're the super gullible one who would rather look away at the real evidence because he is too scared to see the world we live in for what it really is
@CasaNorba I am pretty certain that the number of folks who believe Biden Laden is responsible for 9/11 is a whole lot more than 0.1%
So if you can't even acknowledge what is objective fact, what more is there to talk about?
@CasaNorba yeah im not gonna entertain your conspiracies bro. sorry. find someone else to recite that crap to.
@RolandCuthbert I really do not care what the actual number is to be honest. but if anything the people who still believe "all muslims are the devil" are an extreme minority now
so yeah you're right I am wasting my time here, my fault for expecting a decent argument from a sheep
@Still-alive But it isn't the alternative truth that is startling. She can believe whatever she wants. That's her choice.
The point is that a trumper builds an alternate reality where somehow, everyone agrees with them. And that is more terrifying that any insane belief she could profess. In her mind, people do not have the right to disagree with her. And in her reality, folks actually do not. Somehow, she is in the supermajority.
So that means, she can eliminate the minority of folks who disagree, even as that runs into the tens of millions. Remember, 40% of this crew think political violence is acceptable.
@CasaNorba They always want you go to youtube.
It is where they get their college degrees.
unlike CNN. Fox News and other news network Youtube itself isn't a news network to begin with. its a host used by billions of people around the world so it comes down to the person you actually view there.
but yeah there were documentaries on Netflix around 2013 and guess what, they didn't last long... I wonder why.
till then no, we are not in 2001 anymore. the whole world now knows who the real nwo pawns are
Who is moving to ban condoms and diaphragms?
@CasaNorba Dude, you cannot even acknowledge simple objective fact. Then you launch into rants about youtube channels that support your politics.
The thing that is amazing is you have no self-awareness to even acknowledge what you are.
So consider this. Our politics are different, if I am making an argument I would never send you to a source that blatantly lies or supports my politics. I would cite objective fact.
Fact 1.
Russia and China have conspired to create a new standard of currency, because they claim that the U. S. exerts too much control via the "Dollar". The U. S. dollar is strong, because our economy is stronger theirs.
www.atlanticcouncil.org/.../
Fact 2. Putin and Xi have joined forces. You can pretend this never happened. That's on you and look. . . this is even Youtube. Source of course is DW News. But it doesn't matter. You rant about CNN, so that means that you don't care about CNN. The point is that if the source does not agree with your narrow nonsensical politics, then it is liberal or whatever. It is hard to understand sometimes because you are all over place on this subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EaiuASUpuc
But again, why talk to me when you do not believe in objective fact. You follow the Lenin doctrine, where the public is kept in the dark by this concept that objective fact doesn't exist.
"So consider this. Our politics are different, if I am making an argument I would never send you to a source that blatantly lies or supports my politics. I would cite objective fact."
and how do I know that source you upload it is not fake news or more propaganda? in case you have not notice politicians news networks are humans too. nothing stops them from LYING
So don't live there, you got 2 feet go live under a Goverment more agreeable. This is why I don't live in California anymore.
Y'all really ignoring the jews benefitting from any conflict?
@Markie-mark oh joy...
@Still-alive you're still afraid of muh Republicans, playing ol team blue team red when both unanimously support Israel despite them backstabbing us so many times and both parties give into whining of Jewish community leaders, I'm just saying, what makes them so untouchable to criticize and note their presence EVERYWHERE
Riots. There would be riots.
Fortunately, Canada's sitting government is looking into ways to protect abortion access no matter who gets office in the future - it was already in progress, but the overturning of Roe vs Wade has sped it up.
Also, our Foreign Minister is set to provide clear guidance to border officers about allowing in Americans seeking abortions. Again, that was always allowed, but we're making it even more clear.
I imagine we'd see many political buildings painted red and covered in wire coat hangers. I'd be out in full force, waving around coat hangers twisted into nooses and coated in red paint.
We're still barbaric in how our government treats and continues to fail to deliver on 1880s treaties with our First Nations people. But we are slowly getting better.
If anyone reading this IS considering immigrating to Canada, heads up: it's gonna be a while. It's gotten even more backed up recently.
There's still quite a lot of right wing in Canada, but fortunately even ours banned conversion therapy and considers trans rights human rights.
I don't think it's necessary "uncivilized", it's more just... Right wing. Right wing countries don't want women or minorities to have rights. That's just the way they are. Canada's left is practically off the left side of the playing field compared to America's left, too. American politics are waaaaaay more right of centre than most Americans realize.
A lot of people are on birth control for reasons that have nothing to do with preventing birth. Regulating hormones controls some forms of common cancer too. Among a number of other things. This would never happen. I’m sure the medical system would defend that.
"This would never happen."
you'd think... buttt i just have this feeling...
Hormone regulation won’t be touched. I can’t see them stopping the making of condoms either. They can just get their tighty whities bunched. All of this will be over-turned too. The country doesn't really want to go backwards. At some point people have to stand up against the loudest and most obnoxious, continuing to ignore them and play the ‘sane people’ isn’t working. They’ve already sat back and allowed manipulations to place these people in the supreme court. This is what happens when you give a bully an inch. If a certain former prez was stronger he should have pushed those seats when he had opportunities too. Playing fair gets you nowhere in this world. Important issues need to be fought fire with fire.
we will see what happens this November anyways. will this SCOTUS decision be enough to drive out more and more democrats to vote? i sure hope so anyways
Ok... yes they could also legalize shooting people who anoy you. So far no state has done that either, but they could if they wanted. State elections are the most important of all elections. This is how American Goverment really works.
The good news is even if the majorty is against you in your state you can vote with your feet.
@Still-alive I would hope people put their political seats aside and vote for what is right. A ban hurts far more people than the select few it’s claimed to “control” to prevent random abortions. That is wrong. Control is wrong irregardless. Men should be concerned about laws telling them when they can pull it out of their own pants next. Licenses or something more horrific. Control is a slippery slope after all….
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Not going to happen in the US.
If you think that the abolition of birth control is the agenda of the GOP, then you have drank the Democrat Koolaid.
We will see if you’re still saying this in future when they relook at Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965. and decide ‘eh we dont like this one either’ and leaves that up to the states….
For many years, many Republicans have said that they disagreed with Roe v. Wade. This is no surprise.
Do you have any information suggesting that any substantal number of Republican lawmakers, at present, have suggested that birth control should be restricted in any way?
Still waiting for some proof that this is what conservatives really want.
Maybe 10% of the entire population would support such stupidity. I can't see it happening and if it did i can't see it lasting the decade tbh. It would be a catastrophe. Its not just about birth control its about containing the spread of STDs and STIs. Guess if you're a dad living in a post zero contraception society you better go back to getting a rocking chair and a shotgun and sitting out front of the house if you got a daughter because her life would be potentially over before it began in so many ways and you'd need frequent blood work for your boys. If I had kids under such laws my anxiety would be through the roof.
jezebel.com/idaho-republican-leader-says-hed-consider-banning-morni-1848895519
"Idaho Republican Leader Says He'd Consider Banning Morning-After Pills and IUDs"
I dont like abortion. Infact I'm staunchly opposed to it. But I draw my line in the sand at it. I do so because I don't want murder to happen. Weather others agree abortion is murder or not, it's irrelevant to what I'm about to say. These are my views so here they are: I believe abortion is murder and as such preventing it with any and all contraceptives is preferrable and I would not stand in the way of people using contraceptives at any point. In fact if need be they should be supplemented and free.
I'm not going to speak on the morality of casual sex or it's many contexts into what is moral and what is not. Sex with whomever you want is apart of free choice. As such I wouldn't stand in anyone's way. Allowing free education on sex, free vasectomy, free tube tying, free birth control, free morning after pill, free IUDS, I'm all for it. I dont want to see life snuffed out and I believe people ought to understand that there are risks involved whenever you have sex. Could be STDs, could be pregnancy, could be emotional trauma, a lot of things can happen. That's why sex is special.
People keep saying sex is no big thing. I disagree. Its an act you take with those risks in mind with another person. Sex is about trust and it should be about love too. But some people don't see it that way because of their backgrounds. Maybe no parent (s) in their lives or they got brainwashed in school to believe sex is only about having fun and hedonistic desires. I am not 100% opposed in cases of rape or if the mother would die or if the baby would die or suffer so horribly that the pain it would be in after birth would be unbearable allowing them no chance at a happy life. I'm not heartless, it's the opposite. It's because I care so much about life that I dont want to see it snuffed out for things like the sake of convenience. I know, I get you dont agree and many on gag dont. But I'm a hardliner on this and that won't change. I respect your views on it even though I vehemently disagree because I know that like myself you dont mean harm and your views on it are what they are in the belief its the moral thing to do so I respect that. But you've never come off as a bad guy to me, just someone with a different opinion. That's why I still follow your posts despite all that, I've got no ill will for you. Some people however who are pro abortion or pro choice or whatever you want to say mock the whole ordeal and joke about it. It is not a joke. No matter where you stand on abortion it should be seen as a sad subject, not something to joke about. I would staunchly oppose any bills banning contraceptives. You'd have me as an ally on that one, just not abortion outside of special cases and never, ever late term abortions.
I'm a republican and i can definitely say; that male repulican idiots sholdnt be applying christianity to abortion laws in the US. Separation of church and state. Now republicans are trying to pass laws that prevent incest and rape victims from getting abortions. I dont agree with Biden expanding the supreme court but i feel like for this issue; he should. men need to stay the f*ck out of women's vaginas.
Expanding the Supreme Court would basically just null everything. Every president would just pack the court into irrelevance to force everything through. This decision itself isn’t banning anything. It just states that you don’t have a specific right to abortion and therefor it is left up to the states to craft their own laws. Many states are legalizing abortion up to and possibly after birth.
@DarkWinterNights expanding SCOTUS has happened several times already harvardlpr.com/.../
So this isn’t out of the ordinary to do this
@Still-alive, It’s still shortsighted. You want abortion to be a right, pass a law through congress. This ruling from the bench is extremely self destructive.
Id be up out of there ASAP. There's so much that goes into having protection and what it prevents. Thats a whole lifestyle adjustment and taking a huge risk everytime you wanna have sex, the youth would be fucked up with them having so many kids and not having any sort of grasp on life.
Because such power is limited to the State level you retain that right.
@monorprise except some GOP legislators even want to make that illegal too www.msnbc.com/.../gop-legislators-want-ban-state-abortions-rcna19688
@Still-alive American political parties must encompass roughly haft the voting population of a federation that spans a continent. Of course its going include wide ranges of diffrent values and beleives which have varring levels of support and popularty in each region due to divergent geographic, cultural and economic reason.
This is why state parties are technically separate with separate platforms. This is indeed part of the problem with federalism we have yet to master how to keep the parties and their platforms separate, and that comes down to commutation and strict division of power.
Unless they plan on offering FREE vasectomies and tubal ligations to those interested in them, I will definitely be giving up sex. Pretty sure others share the same sentiment, no matter how much some people enjoy sex. There are too many unwanted consequences of having unprotected sex: from STDs to pregnancy! Especially those of you that believe in hookups or one night stands...
And in before anyone says, "I'm in a monogamous relationship with my partner; I don't need it..." or, "I can't get pregnant so it doesn't affect me!" It's not just about you: it's about peoples right to choose to have safe, protected sex, and not risk having children if they choose not to.
wouldn't effect me because i choose not to be active but, its stupid and i have a feeling some people will get clever and try balloons, tinfoil, sandwich bags lol many many ER visits will go up lol
I don’t use contraception but that doesn’t mean I think it shouldn’t exist. Contraception helps women in more ways than just avoiding pregnancy. It can help regulate hormones, it can help get rid of hormonal acne/skin conditions, it can help manage PCOS severe bleeding, it can help with a lot of things. It doesn’t help everyone but for the women it does help, there’s no way contraception should ever be taken away.
I'd try my best to move away, It's my right to have sex with my boyfriend without worrying about the risk of pregnancy. It's also my right to decide if I want to have children or not.
Also, for some women pregnancy is life-threatening (like my mother), and if she couldn't prevent it then she wouldn't be here.
If my country ever banned abortions, I'd be devastated. Allowing for states to ban abortions is disgusting enough but preventing any type of sexual protection would lead to horrifying results.
Not just with unplanned, and unwanted pregnancies but also with mass spreading events of STIs.
I know you had a list of states that were going to outlaw abortion, do you also have a list of states that have plans to outlaw contraceptives?
nope... but they do desire this... i guarantee if things continue as they are contraceptives are the next to receive blanket bans in many states across our country.
probably all the states that have trigger bans once roe v wade is revoked would love to ban contraceptives too...
@Snsl153 thats naive... they do want to get rid of this.. i could pull up quotes some of these republicans have said expressing as much. once the roe v wade domino falls the rest will fall too...
"... fall like dominos..." Isn't that the slippery-slope fallacy? Even IF Roe vs. Wade is reversed, the world won't come to an end. As I understand it, then the states will once again be able to regulate or ban the practice. That's all, that's it. You won't see the United States become like Saudi Arabia, a theocracy. Be reasonable, and keep those wayward emotions of yours in check for a change, because I've noticed that you allow them to get the better of you in these discussions.
@Snsl153 "Isn't that the slippery-slope fallacy?"
nope not a fallacy. they literally tried a few times since the SCOTUS decision of Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965. www.msnbc.com/.../blackburn-denounces-supreme-court-contraception-ruling-1965-rcna20862
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut
"the world won't come to an end. As I understand it, then the states will once again be able to regulate or ban the practice. That's all, that's it."
for now... until republicans fully take over all branches of government in 2024 where they have expressed a desire to make it a federal law to outright ban abortions across our country. www.forbes.com/.../?sh=445de77423ed
"ou won't see the United States become like Saudi Arabia, a theocracy"
it pretty much will. handmaids tale is more like what they really want in the end. they just want to control womens bodies and lives. thats all. nothing to get alarmed over right? :) WRONG!
Is it not worth getting emotional over turning back the progress in our country? if that isn't worth getting irate over then i don't know what is. you clearly don't understand the stakes right now. they are monumental. we are this close to becoming a full on fascist state. and people like you just allow it to happen... applaud it even. thats quite disturbing.
OPEN YOUR EYES please!
@Snsl153 i posted more sources... and yes they are more reliable than fox or wherever else you get your news...
welp looks like you're another one of them crazies then that like to just put fingers in your ears. :) nice.
@Snsl153 its already hard to take you seriously to be frank... or anyone who thinks repealing roe v wade is the right thing to do.
we will see what happens in November... but this decision just woke up every single liberal in the country. and also keep in democratic voters outnumber republican voters by almost 10% news.yahoo.com/...umber-republicans-111006678.html
@Snsl153 ok what sources do you trust? maybe i can dig something up for you on it... unless its a right wing propaganda site. if it is then you can cram that somewhere else.
Okay. I like 'Wion' on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/c/WION
The Hill, with Kim Iverson
https://www.youtube.com/c/thehill
Empire Files, with Abby Martin is good, even though she is left-wing. From what I've seen of her, she does her best to be reasonable and impartial.
https://www.youtube.com/c/EmpireFiles
@Snsl153
Wion news isn't an American based news site so wouldn't have much about American scotus history and the right wings distaste for contraceptives and this site also has mixed factual reporting.
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Kim iverson is a grifter like Jimmy Dore was who appealed to progressives but as soon as she got her spot on the hill immediately turned into a secret right winger after Krystal ball left.
@Snsl153 Abby Martin is a lot better and her twitter does reveal she's on the right side of the roe v wade issue here. i bet if you asked her she'd totally agree that contraceptives and other precedents passed by SCOTUS are all on the chopping block after roe v wade falls. https://twitter.com/EmpireFiles
@Snsl153 https://twitter.com/AbbyMartin
jezebel.com/idaho-republican-leader-says-hed-consider-banning-morni-1848895519
"Idaho Republican Leader Says He'd Consider Banning Morning-After Pills and IUDs"
Is that would all those are I thought they were all toys in Cracker Jack boxes
I don't think they'll ever be banned because I'm pretty sure that they're trying to do something with population control right now if anything they'll give you an added boost to not get pregnant and that's for men and women
Now they take the responsibility of huge population. In school they say us to have safe sex but if this happens then it isn't safe. Hell there are going to be thousands of teenage parents. For me it won't be a problem because I won't have sex before marriage anyways and with my husband. I will still stay where I'm but still not everyone are asexual like me right? I won't support this at all.
trying to ban contraceptive and/or abortion in the modern culture without limited expectations. would likely lead to number of single mothers increasing, number of miscarriage increasing and number of families living off welfare increasing. plus many other unforeseen things I would imagine.
*limited exceptions*
I wouldn’t care very much since it’s not something I’d be affected by.
so as long as it doesn't affect you, you don't care right?
Sound like a yes then. As long as something doesn’t personally affect you, you don’t care.
@Still-alive, Not necessarily, but my outrage meter has been maxed for a long time and I’m personally just getting apathetic about many political issues.
That said, who on earth would propose banned contraceptives? That’s like banning seatbelts or fire extinguishers.
@DarkWinterNights bible thumping hardcore republicans want this. You better believe it
Show me statistics proving this is even remotely a popular opinion.
@DarkWinterNights its not a popular opinion but the hardcore republicans that want this dont give a shit if its popular or not. Keep in mind the majority of people in our country actually want roe v wade to remain in place yet they are doing away with it anyways despite its popularity.
news.gallup.com/.../...d-overturning-roe-wade.aspx
So why would they also give a shit about how popular contraception is.
www.motherjones.com/.../
@Still-alive, While it’s true most don’t support repealing Roe v Wade, the problem is the Court doesn’t think it should be making those decisions. Abortion isn’t explicitly protected by the bill of rights (Which is ironic considering many on the Left want unrestricted abortions, but support limits on gun rights, which IS explicitly protected by the bill of rights.)
The reality is most support legal abortion with restrictions. Gallop has it at 53% last I checked. The problem is the Left wants no restrictions and the Right is torn on either banning it or restricting it in some way. Since over 50% agree with the safe, legal but rare line of thinking, it all comes down to how strongly people feel about it and state representatives voted in will decide.
If it’s that popular on a National scale, congress can write a bill protecting abortion.
That said, there is no widespread desire for anyone to restrict contraception. I’ve heard some people come out against birth control since it has side effects, but nobody is going to go after contraceptives. There is no legal or logical argument. It’s simple fear mongering that the Democrats do to try to regain the support they lost over the last year.
@DarkWinterNights if it actually happens anyways what would your reaction be then? would you never support republicans?
Men can get vasectomy. It is easier to get than sterilisation (?). If you are under 35s
and have no kids, you would not find any doctor who would do it. Even women with many kids in their mid 20s can't get it since no doctor do it. So i dont understand why husbands just dont get vasectomy when her wife already sacrificed herself to get his kids.
I also dont understand why would anyone would be against it. Look at turkey. The birthrate sink despite being a muslim population. My conservative muslim cousins also use it, otherwise they would have 10+ kids lol. Not even very conservative people would want this. Nobody can look after many kids
How are you going to ban condoms anyway? You can ban any hormonal contraceptives etc since you need a doctor for these contraceptives but you can buy condoms on the internet. Lol
You do know your state makes laws on murder and generally defines the legality of everything else? Nobody's life liberty or property is ever safe while the legislator is in session.
The good thing about having such power on the state level is you can vote with your feet even if the majority is against you there.
Lucky me that lives in a country that uses their brain, so that will never happen. But If it did i would be highly disappointed in my country if they did. I would try and move out before it get worse.
which country you in?
I think the moronic decisions made by the Republicans to take the country backwards will be their undoing in the next election. Telling people what they can do with their bodies has no place in politics and everybody should vote them out of existence. There are a lot of 3rd world countries that are more progressive in their treatment of people then the U. S.
Just knowing some dumb kid is gonna get pregant and _______ because of this, I'd rid of all my news sources.
It's blank because can you imagine. :) Imagine wtf they would start doing and feeling.
That state would be ran by idiots. Why? Just so women can abort even more babies?
jezebel.com/idaho-republican-leader-says-hed-consider-banning-morni-1848895519
"Idaho Republican Leader Says He'd Consider Banning Morning-After Pills and IUDs"
point and make fun of Idaho id this happens then
And he's an idiot.
I wouldn't care as long as my partner is by my side. What I would care is about money, because if we want to have sex without getting married and/or for having babies, then we would go on a vacation like honey moon type. That would be so expensive.
I feel like the numbers of STI and STD would rise to the skies.
I view that as an authoritarian and I would move to another state.
As if that would affect me I’m not having sex with anyone :’(
so as long as it doesn't affect you, you don't care right?
Yeah but if I were having sex I’d be concerned cause I don’t want kids every time lol
only place that happen is in a country that needs more soldiers, like isreal at times.
Id feel like we'd need to start populating other planets soon.
Furious! Even though I don’t personally need them yet, that’s a fundamental right as defined in the Constitution.
Contraceptives are mentioned in the Constitution?
@rocksongwriter there’s a Supreme Court case that says they’re guaranteed in the Constitution.
Are you really a songwriter?
Jus make your own or is that illegal too
Yes, I'm really a songwriter. Why do you ask?
@rocksongwriter just curious. That’s cool.
Thanks.
I wouldn't care since I don't use contraceptives. Also I don't live in my country so it wouldn't make a difference anyways.
Then the state should get all the Hospitals ready, because babies will be coming left and right. 🤣🤣🤣
I wouldn't be surprised in the least. India always bans anything fun. It's all about responsibilities.
Haa fuck no. Id rather not get knocked up. Sure the best way to avoid it is from no sex but people have needs man..
Meh. It wouldn't affect me personally, but I still wouldn't support such a move, because that would be going way too far.
I don't have sex. It's not something I find exciting let alone pleasureful. So I couldn't care less
so as long as it doesn't affect you, you don't care right?
Pretty much
you don't care about anyone else then? your relatives? sisters cousins? close friends? no one else?
I'm an individual. They'll figure things out for themselves.
a selfish individual it seems.
I'm not worried about it. They shouldn't be having sex 🤷🏻♂️ I'm not. They don't have to. That's their decision. If they wanna fuck up their own lives who am I to stop them.
Literal psychopath. At least you're ware of it.
How am I a psychopath for minding my own business? 😂
I have no right to meddle in the affairs of my friends and family's personal lives. Only my own
Looks like we head back to the dark ages when abortion was heresy
yup Louisiana is gonna make so they charge you with murder for having an abortion
Wow... and as next step they bring back lynching and crucifying
I'm not involved with anyone nor plan to get involved at this point so it wouldn't affect me
so as long as it doesn't affect you, you don't care right?
That the way to live, wipes stress out of the system colossally, I was recommended to do that by the duty therapist when I was in hospital with my heart condition... my business gives me enough stress so I was to forget about anything that doesn't affect you or it as part of my recovery, they additional coldness has been good for me and great for business
well eventually this stuff will effect you at some point...
oh wait you're in the UK i guess it don't matter
No one wants me, at least in that sense so non-issue
We invented the condom so I'm sure we could improvise.
Still sheep shagging to this day?
Condomws were used from times of ancient egyptians in 1350 bc. Also greek and romans used them. Greeks used fish interiors while romans used sheep or pigs intesitne. First modern condom was invented by Gabriele Falloppio in half 1500 but it was made by linen canvas to combat syphilis. Modern condom gum was invented by Charles Goodyear in 1870, and massively produced from 1875.
Wouldn't care because you can jus pull out or masturbate, the government can't for me to have children I don't want, I don't wanna be cruel and bring life into this world that doesn't even wanna be brought here
Wish I was aborted to be honest, life's such a dragg, one long pointless dragg
I would wonder why the hell I woke up in Alabama, then GTFO as quickly as I could.
That would be crazy but I doubt that would ever happen. I don’t think the government wants to have to put money down helping citizens take care of babies that they weren’t ready to have.
I would not support that, I've used a condom every-time even if my partner said they were on birth control, and if they balked at the use of a condom I’ve gotten dressed and walked away.
That's a disaster asking to occur. It's already a mess with them being available to the public. Without them that's an STD's and pregnancies fest, not exactly what you would like with how economy is becoming.
Far as I know there aren't any states that ban contraception, correct me it I'm wrong. I'm sure a few nations in the middle east ban them but like banning drugs it's not very effective in stopping thier use.
Since I fire blanks it would not really concern me. However, I would hate to lose my ability to protect myself from STDs!
You didn't know in advance that religious fundamentalists have no empathy for others?
It would benefit the economy and culture because we are below replacement level in all countries in the west
I would imagine that the adoption agencies would have plenty of children for adoption.
Maybe China would take them like the US took their female babies when they were limited to one child?
I don't have sex anyway so it doesn't concern me too much, but condoms are a must.
so as long as it doesn't affect you, you don't care right?
Why would any country ban that?
I don"t understand the reason for it?
cause they think it encourages slutty behavior i guess?
Hell no banned you can find them their just like guns they would just always be available some where on the black market
i would say that birth control is a choice not a right.
if you do it that is up to you.
men are not fans of condoms but woman are and birth control should not be taken away at all.
I'm moving away at that point.
be glad you;re in new york. im in cali too. no way our two states would do this
It doesn't matter where you are, if the American Taliban gains control at the Federal level, they will pass legislation that will override states' laws.
Something that Conservatives would never do. Even if they vehemently disagreed with the state.
That's how far we have come.
@RolandCuthbert well i hope our state government remains based af and ignores that federal ruling. shove he 10th amendment right in their faces if they have to
Well, seeing that about 40% of the American Taliban think that political violence is okay, all I can say is good luck.
@RolandCuthbert yeah there might as well be another civil war at that point
We should make a movie! "Civil War Part2, Unfinished Business".
We could make millions!
Seems unlikely. I guess we'll see, but not something I'm hugely worried about.
meh reaction but i dont agree with the idea because that's heading to a disaster
I worry more about disease because I can’t have kids
They have banned Abortion and then try to ban Contraceptives. HELL NO
I probably don't have to worry about that so much lately.
I would hate that but wouldn't be surprised at the same time
I am so happy I don't live in the US. Seriously among the considered developed countries is one of the most underdeveloped ones in the world.
I got a vasectomy, and that's not a contraceptive. As a result, my girlfriend doesn't take any contraceptives, so it doesn't really affect us.
They better dish out the 200 grand it will cost to support each child till they are 18 then
I would be pissed because my pull out game isn’t that strong 🤣🤣🤣
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