I don't live in the US, but if that was to happen to my country, I would move to a country that is not a dictatorship that would jail you over your believes and what you do to your own body.
I don't believe in life as a magical thing. I'm not religious. Life to me is a concept we use to group personality, motricity and other skills we developed after we are born, not before. Until that point our brain is just a placeholder for information. (Again, my belief).
Now the second that baby detaches your body, it's not a part of you, and your right to end that "life" is lost, and with that, of course, I agree.
But before that I don't believe we're killing a "life" but we're stopping a "life" to be (same thing we do when we masturbate), and that to me is nothing, because I don't believe there's a person in heaven or anything that is losing their chance to live.
If they're gonna jail me for believing that and for stopping something I started in my own body (figuratively speaking as both male and female here) then I'm outta here.
Abortions have been going down every year since roe vs wade. If you honestly want the least abortions to happen a better investment strategy is sex education and birth control availability. The real problem is abstinence only education. Kids who don't know jack about a topic run into trouble, go fucking figure.
In your heart of hearts give a single shit about abortions, education over ignorance is the better investment. Beyond that there's cases were a fetuse has a condition thats not compatible with life. So painful that after being born will never experience falling asleep before dying. These are every late stage abortions. What's the meaning of life for someone only possibly is endless pain and when to determine to grant mercy?
This is why you talk to your doctor about your choices to figure shit out. So I'm pro choice.
Beyond that most of the child marriages in the United States of America happens in the Bible belt. What happens is a teenage daughter gets raped and gets pregnant so the parents forces the child to marry the rapist because if she dosen't she will go to hell for being a whore. This is honestly what anti abortionist really boils down and truly disgusting.
How about telling a wishing mother to spend $22,646 on a complicated birth for that baby to only know suffering as the meaning of life? You willing to rob that choice to give mercy from a mother?
I did start this off with a proven track record to create the least abortions possible. Sex education and birth control including access to abortions.
We both know outlawing abortions won't help a thing so long coat hangers and belly flopping off a set of stairs is available. What is your game plan in all this? Clearly all the home remedies and accidental suicides was enough for the Supreme Court so you got to have a better solution then that.
@KrakenAttackin within the first trimester that no one considers a living thing. The last 3% was mercy. Like the cyclops short i link that was not compatible with life.
Yes shit happens and people take care of it fairy quickly with a 97% average. The last 3% are god forsaken borns and can only find peace from a mother's mercy.
@KrakenAttackin you're a cunt and an a half honestly. If you care about abortions in your heart of hearts you'd care about avaliablility of birth control. You drool over punishing women and raking them over coals over your own made up rules.
As much as i give you 888 a hard time these people scare me.
This is why I got my tubes tied. I know I have no patience for children and my husband is an alcoholic, but we still have sex.. it would be the dumbest idea to have a child together. Sure, it happened before that I got pregnant. First was a miscarriage and second was a premature that died after 22 days. After that, I got my tubes tied b/c I knew neither of us could ever be good parents.
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For a long time I was against abortion, but now I've changed my mind. I was very lucky to have a mother that loved me. I would rather be dead than grow up with a mother that hated my existence and wished I was dead.
The federal government will not outlaw abortion. It will defer to the 10th amendment as it should have in 1973. Many left leaning states will preserve abortion and even elevate it to infanticide like California is trying to. Others like Texas will restrict it.
No one would leave both the envied Palace and Playground of the 🌎 🌍 🌏. About the only place one could go to live Abortion free would be Qatar or the Like. You might die but at least you know there is no baby killing in those dead 💀 lands.
Outlawing abortion only makes it less safe, it doesn't stop abortion. And they're not your babies, you're not gonna take care of them because you can barely take care of yourself in your mom's basement.
Dude, if you want to up the level of your troll here you should've gone with "Black Lives Matter -- End Abortion Now!" You could then cite the number of black babies aborted each year (thousands upon thousands) and compare it to the number of unarmed blacks killed by cops each year (tens). Because the same people who support the BLM cause tend to be the most militantly pro-abortion, heads would explode from the cognitive dissonance.
why would a country outlaw abortion when it can't control the pet population? think. take away benefits for children and see what happens. why are you so for poor people having kids?
Its not an issue to me as we're both older and she has had her tubes tied. But I certainly don't support an abortion ban. Makes no sense at all, people confusing fetuses for children, even the bible says that unborn fetuses are not people (biblicaly life begins with the childs first breath independent of the mother).
Wrong , Bible says "I knew you in the womb" That means you are a person and God knows who you are and what you will be. Try reading the bible and taking things out of context.
Yes mosaic law differentiates between causing an the loss of an unborn fetuse (fine) and killing a person (execution). Also in many passages the phrase "breath of life" is used such as He breathed in to their nostrils and they lives.
@888thegreat you are not well informed. 1. At the time that is legal to abort, the fetus has pain sensors, but not a developed nervous system. In other words it doesn't feel pain. 2. Many scientists disagree on "where life begins". Some say at conception. Others after is capable of surviving after birth. Others say life never ends because sperm and the egg can also be considered alive. The scientific community doesn't have a unanimous decision on that.
@888thegreat by all means do. Doesn't change what I said. Unless the abortion in question was performed way later than it should, the fetus will not feel pain.
The irony of this is that if 888 was aborted, he would be in Heaven right now. But he wasn't and he has lived a life of sin and now there is a 98.7% chance he will go to "Alternative Heaven." :(
He's one of those Republicans who believes he's protecting the lives of the unborn, especially those who will be born to mothers who don't want or can't afford them. Or those who will spend their first 16 years bouncing from foster home to foster home. He's also the guy who votes for the Congress person that's staunchly against funding high school contraceptives, and against funding programs for low-income single moms, who "should have thought about it BEFORE they got pregnant". And you're arguing with him? LOL
@Creampiekarl420 The status of personhood the innocent as you put it, is questionable at best. Let’s grant the assumption that the fetus is a person. It’s still the right of a woman to secure her bodily rights even if it results in the fetus death. Suppose you were perfectly healthy, but another person is sick and required to be attached surgically to your body. So while you are asleep, you are attached to this other person by someone else. Are you within your rights to separate from this other person, who through no fault of their own, is attached to you, even though separating means the death of this person?
My point is that you shouldn’t be required to give up your bodily rights just because someone needs it. You should be able to secure it.
I think it would be a real incentive to form actual relationships and not hookup like degenerates
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It is not murder you imbecile, how many times do we have to explain it? Why are some people in the US so rude and poorly educated? didn't you go to college or read some good books?
@Shamalien Have you seen that the most developed countries are non religious at all? Yes cause people have educated and stopped believing in fairy tales
First of all I’m not religious in any way, you are, and you don’t realize it because you didn’t actually learn shit about our language and latin and greek roots in college. Secondly, answer the damn question, what do you, in all your post grad ingenuity do for a living?
Lol you think I’m gunna track you down via your occupation? Or are you too embarrassed to admit that your great “education” landed you a job behind the counter at starbucks?
@Shamalien hahaha no, Im sorry it is for you. Or maybe Macdonalds at best? I agree sometimes the most educated people do not get the best jobs. I have a great job which I love, own two houses and get the rent of one of them, been to every continent so no I really can't complain about my situation. My hard studies did pay. How many countries have you been to? Pay attention countries not counties. Also, let me explain United States is just one country in case you dont know it
You’re insufferable and embody everything I despise about modern women. The school you went to and the countries you’ve been to make you no better than I or anyone else, you’re just a pretentious piece of shit. I’m guessing you came from a wealthy family and have had a lot of “help”. So embarrassed to admit you don’t actually do shit but live off of others like some fking parasite. You’re unemployed
@Shamalien hahahahha no you piece of trash. DO you resent successful women? I dont come from a rich family. You are just a freaking mysoginist who is jelous of everyone living a better life than you do. meaning everyone cause you are resented, hateful and pretend everyone should be the shit you are. Sorry life has treat you so badly and you want to project all your unhappiness and insecurities in women you not even know. ANd what I do for a living is my problem. Im sorry you have never been able to travel see the world and understand you are not even a pin in this huge universe and none care about how stupid and insane you are. I bet you are one those psychos selling donnuts one day you'll kill everyone cause you hate everyone. You just can't live with being a bog looser like you are
@Shamalien No piece of shit, I won't. You can spend your lame and shitty day trying to guess. Bet you have nothing better to do. Me, I have a happy Friday ahead! Bye psycho!
