Sometimes. Part of why I got on here was because this was and is a place that isn't so much of an echo chamber. Like anywhere else you will run into people who are so entrenched in their "truth" that facts, opinions, even acknowledging that it's valid for you to feel the way you do is impossible.
I just remember those people and don't bother debating or arguing with them, to stop doing so with everyone else would be to let it become an echo chamber here as well, for either direction. A lot of people block me, a lot of people follow me. I swing right, I swing left (well, not right now), part of being able to have that argument is conversing with someone who has the ability to recognize "I could be wrong". Even if that isn't about their core beliefs, you can't argue with someone who believes they're right about everything. It's like punching water. Insane water.
When people have their mind made up, it's useless to say anything that contradicts their belief. These people aren't looking for input from you. They just believe they're right, and they're entitled to push their agenda onto others. Unfortunately, that is too common nowadays. You can always say "I see things differently. If you'd like to understand my perspective or reasoning, please feel free to ask." If they don't follow-up and ask, feel free to ignore their comment. If they do ask but don't show interest in understanding things from your perspective, feel free to pull out of the discussion.
Yes. It becomes hard to debate when so many are too emotional to debate. You get so many people who rather emotionally insult you than give a civil educated reply. So after a while you feel like you are just wasting your time.
Before we had social media most debates we had were in person. So people had enough sense not to call, the person he's debating with, an idiot to their face. But because people can now hide hehind their phones and computers, they word vomit insults and nothing productive gets said.
I only lose the desire if the person wants to fight you or one up you, if they look down on you because of an opinion they do not agree with.
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I would say no, I will continue to debate because like in your instance it comes down to an agree to disagree notion. The only time it makes sense to stop debating is when you can tell the one you are debating is disregarding everything you say and not taking a step back to read and think it over. They are adamant in their beliefs and no amount of reasoning or discussion will change their perspective and attitude. That's when you let it go.
People in general don't like face conflict and when meeting someone who poses a different angle different than theirs that can potentially threaten their views, they will go on the attack amd do everything they can to quell your voice.
I enjoy debating those with a clear seperation between their facts and assumptions, but that has become almost nonexistent these days. Too many take their assumptions as fact because it makes them feel good. How do you convince someone to try to understand something when they have built their self worth and sense of community around not understanding it?
Im leaning to the same thing. You have those who are so fucking anal retentive to think on their own. Tell me Trump cucks - whats gonna happen in 2022 - will your precious election be overturned? will your orange messiah come back in 2024 and Make America Great Again...
This is how HE MADE AMERICA GREAT?
umm. Obama WAS PRESIDENT FOR 8 YEARS. HE WAS NOT FIRED.. But...
u nope... I am not really into debating, I rather see other people's point of view, I present mine... then both perspectives are just there
I don't really have a problem with disagreement, now, if the other person get's dumb about it... that's different, but then... they will be making a fool out of themselves, and that's it, that's their choice I don't let it affect me, just because is not about me
You are so well informed and you take the high road in any exchange I've witnessed in here.
You're too much of a powerhouse to just let things go.
You might want to take a break from breaking through the ignorance of many but one day, not far from now, you'll come back with a fury stating cases and precedent and historical fact as it pertains to this or that philosopher...
Don't be discouraged, kiddo.
You'll be back.
With bells on...😉
I’m almost there in regards to politics. If a country cannot agree upon it’s basic fundamentals, then there is nothing holding it together. Kind-of like a divorced couple who agree to stay together for the sake of the kids but really despise each-other. I miss when I was younger and politics didn’t really matter.
Sometimes I lose interest in debating something when it is clear I'm not getting through and they won't listen to reason, but it never lasts for very long. A good night's sleep and I feel back to normal again.
There are a number of people on here that I often debate with that I have a lot of respect for even though I often disagree with them. They stick to the point, make good arguments, and make me think. There are others that I won't engage with mostly because all I get is "what about, what about" and I won't waste my time with someone who argues like that.
Honestly, it’s all about finding the right people to debate with. In a debate, there isn’t a “winner” or a “loser”, both people should enter with open minded. That’s why I just found internet debates not very interesting, there’s a lot of close minded people.
Yes. Because reason and debate have gone out the door. It’s people “believe there truth” without any evidence to back up why they believe it. I’m a man that things if you can’t back up, prove, or support your stance without being called dumb for making someone else look stupid in there argument. It’s making me dumber on there level. That’s not cool
Well I hope you find that passion again because all it takes is one person like you to change the world the right place at the right time with the right fight with the right answer all it takes is one person and that person can be you
It's tiring and most people are too entrenched in their positions to really consider an argument.
I've taken to simply stating my case and moving on, perhaps to win over a reader instead.
Online debating is/was never about facts, it's about sounding better, but even then people watch debates to reaffirm their beliefs or watch the other side "get destroyed".
Debates without an audience such as with people you know are much more useful and productive.
definitely been there, after too much timr consumption I usually just agree to disagree
Nope, but it is useless to do because Liberals are crazy and have no logic , so they go by emotions and idealism. A totally green economy would be no economy. 90% of the people would have no job and printing money to pay them would destroy the US.
I think that's what people want you to do. Much like voting. Convincing someone not to vote makes your vote more powerful.
Nowadays, most peoples' minds are made up, closed and they are threatened by an opposing opinion.
Yes, I do not wamt to argue with people. I could argue with my kids if I wanted to.
Debating is useless today, people aren't following reason, they're following feelings, and just call you names when you contradict them.
I pick and choose. If it seems like someone who would actually listen, I’d talk with them
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