So will it go back to being illegal for me to love and marry my girlfriend?
Let's continue to strip rights from ourselves and call this country free...
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Trending & News Question: SINCE WHEN was any of that firmly established as "rights"?
Answer: It was not, and you should have gone to your state legislature the way the Constitution originally intended.
Even though I am not anti-abortion. It is long since time to hash this out in the state legislatures, *where the issue belongs*, rather than reading into the Constitution what *just is not there*. The 9th and 10th Amendments of the Constitution ARE blatantly there, and they are clear that where the constitution is ambiguous, state law prevails. And no, I am not anti-abortion or "pro life". I am not keen on compulsory birth, but this issue needs to be hashed out in the states, where it properly belongs.
That goes for you too, who demand that "gay marriage" be called the same as marriage, whatever status it may merit, it isn't that, and nor is there anything in the Constitution that upholds it. Go fight for domestic partnership laws in your state as needed.
That said, for most, nay the overwhelming majority of women, it really will not make much of a difference. Why not? The dirty little secret about this whole issue is that for all the rights rhetoric (whether “right to choose”, or “right to life”), abortion is not an abstract "rights" concept. It is (1) a medical procedure (2) requiring a doctor willing to perform it.
In states where abortion is frowned upon - the states likely to ban or at least restrict abortion if Roe *is* somehow overturned - abortion providers are already incredibly rare. Vast swaths of these United States simply DO NOT have abortion providers as it is. Women seeking in those regions already have to make the long car or Greyhound Bus trip as it is, crossing another state line will not really matter much. This is not in some hypothetical world where Roe v. Wade didn't happen, this is the "boots on the ground" (or tires on the road, or fetuses in the womb) reality, *right now* already.
Suppose a woman in Idaho or Utah wants an abortion. Do Idaho and Utah even HAVE abortion providers? Or do those women drive or ride the Greyhound Bus over to Spokane or down to "Sin City" Las Vegas as it is already? This also goes for the rural Midwest and South even more so. All an overturning of Roe Vs. Wade would do is cause some people to change the car or bus trips, that they already have to make, a bit longer. The rural Nebraskan seeking an abortion might no longer have a provider in Omaha (if there is even one there now?), so she drives or takes the bus to Des Monies, Minneapolis at the most. As it stands, it's already a long trip for rural women seeking abortions, crossing a state line doesn't matter much.
Most abortion providers, understandably, prefer to practice in states where people support them and where clients are more likely to be, i. e., states where abortion won’t and will never be banned.
This reality means that however much energy is spent on Supreme Court nominee battles, a Roe reversal wouldn’t change the country’s total number of abortion providers much. In fact, a year after Roe is overturned, it would be the rare woman who would notice any difference in her life at all.
In their zeal to fight over the Supreme Court, though, neither side of the abortion debate has absorbed these numbers. Few pro-life groups realize they’ve fought a 50-year battle to put just a handful of doctors out of business. Pro-choice forces haven’t grasped that the millions they’ll spend lobbying to block certain nominees could be better spent tipping a lot of state and local legislative races. Or, for that matter, to build abortion clinics in solidly pro-choice states that are near the borders of states likely to enact or keep abortion bans.
And where I live in California, it's "Abortion Today, Abortion Tomorrow, Abortion Forever!" You can say that in your best George Wallace voice if you want to.
First off gay marriage isn’t a right protected by the constitution gay marriage should be left up to the states like marijuana laws now the abortion law Etc
2nd the “right” to murder your unborn child isn’t a right it’s not in the constitution it was never in the constitution so scotus did not have the right to codify abortion into law. That was a wild misinterpretation on the constitution there is no right to an abortion. It’s a privilege
3rd all the striking down of this unconventional roe v. Wade decision means the issue goes back to the states. So you’ll have states like California who will still have abortion legal and states like Texas who will outlaw abortion
4th there only 2 countries in the world that will force its women to have a child and that’s North Korea and China. No one in the United States is going to force you to get pregnant and have a child women have 13 types of birth control men have 2 one is permanent. Also no one is forcing you to have sex (if you want to limit abortion to rape cases only sounds good to me rape incest and potential death of the mother most people even of the right support abortion in these 3 cases which would turn that 1-4 abortion stat you sited and reduce abortion to 1 in 10,0000 cases)
5th you say right to life. What about the babies life? When the women is pregnant does she now have 20 fingers and toes 4 ears eyes lips 2 butt holes and if the baby is male does she now have a penis? If you think these questions are stupid it’s because they are stupid. Unless your going to completely dehumanize unborn children and label then down to the point of parasites then the baby in a women's womb. In which case why not abort all these parasites if it’s a parasite better get it out of every women not just some? Until you look at the logic behind that and in which case you kill all unborn children and then the human species goes extinct.
6th the only excuses I’ve heard for abortion are selfish arguments “I wouldn’t have become a lawyer if I didn’t kill my unborn child” Or “I wouldn’t have become a famous actress if it wasn’t for abortion”. If you as a women (course what is a women) need to kill your unborn child in order to advance your self then you shouldn’t have that job I’ve been told all my life women are strong. are you not strong enough to raise children and have a career? Do women need to murder there unborn children to have a career? Kinda destroys the argument that women should have a career if they can’t have a career and have a child at the same time.
this is an issue I’ve done a lot of research on heard every argument from both sides and the pro life argument is the only one that makes logical sense otherwise your telling me women are weak and do need men to take care of them all there lives they are so weak that they should be living in there father’s home until she gets married and in which case she should move in with her husband and never leave the house again. Is the Taliban correct in there assessment of how women should act? I don’t think so women are perfectly capable of having kids and a career. the abortion argument tells me yes the taliban would be correct in there assessment of house women should behave if women are truly that week.
take what I said to heart think what it means if the pro abortion argument is correct
Could you do me a favor, and let me know where it was reported that the Supreme Court indicated that it will “reconsider same sex marriage” and what is the case involved. As there has to be a legal case that worked its way through the courts and was accepted by the Supreme Court for them to consider anything. For example the abortion case was:
“Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization (19-1392)”
I would hate to think same sex marriage would be overturned, my great uncle is gay and has been with Phillip for almost 30 years, the were married a couple of months after the June 2015 Supreme Court case of Obergefell v. Hodges, which legalized gay marriage in all 50 states. Also one of my dearest friends is the daughter of a gay married couple. And the wonderful people who live across the street from my parents are a beautiful, sweet gay married couple. I have always been an ally to the LGBTQ+ community, even before my best (previously male) friend came out as transgender, now she is probably the best looking girl in our group of friends, and I couldn’t be happier for her! So if that is going to be overturned I need the court case so I can begin to organize opposition to it. I’m asking because I have heard this before, but when I asked the LGBTQ+ center on campus they were unaware of any cases currently making their way through the courts. This would be a HUGE help to me. Thanks in advance!
It was Justice Thomas on page 118-119 in the official decision on Roe v. Wade released this morning.
In a concurring Dobbs opinion by Justice Clarence Thomas, he says that SCOTUS should "reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell."
That's contraception, same-sex relationships, & same-sex marriage. https://t.co/QRK7dixDpK
I don't know if there are any cases in relation to this coming up. But it shows the intention if a case was to make it to the Supreme Court.
You misread it it clearly says that this case does NOT affect the cases mentioned. Below is the exact text I just copied from the decision. My good you had me VERY worried there for a few minutes!
The Court today declines to disturb substantive due pro- cess jurisprudence generally or the doctrine’s application in other, specific contexts. Cases like Griswold v. Connecticut,
Cite as: 597 U. S. ____ (2022) 3
THOMAS, J., concurring
381 U. S. 479 (1965) (right of married persons to obtain con- traceptives)*; Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U. S. 558 (2003) (right to engage in private, consensual sexual acts); and Oberge- fell v. Hodges, 576 U. S. 644 (2015) (right to same-sex mar- riage), are not at issue. The Court’s abortion cases are unique, see ante, at 31–32, 66, 71–72, and no party has asked us to decide “whether our entire Fourteenth Amend- ment jurisprudence must be preserved or revised,” McDon- ald, 561 U. S., at 813 (opinion of THOMAS, J.). Thus, I agree that “[n]othing in [the Court’s] opinion should be under- stood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”
I understand that it doesn't affect these decisions. But it does show the stance on that Justice regarding those cases.
I’m certainly no fan of conservatives, and Clarence Thomas least of all, as he was credibly accused of sexually assaulting Anita Hill, yet he went from nominated to confirmed in 8 days, despite the very credible accusations against him by Prof. Hill. That being said, one of the cases included in the fear fest that seems to be going on from our side, is an end to interracial marriage. Yet Clarence Thomas is married to a white woman! Now it would seem to me, that the precedent upon which gay marriage was based is the same foundation for the legalization of interracial marriage, and I find it impossible to believe that Clarence Thomas would signal his “stance” on those cases, given that by SCOTUS policy as he IS married to a white woman, he would be forced to recuse himself from any case involving interracial marriage, so why would he signal his “stance”, it simply does not make any sense. The one thing we on the left do very well is make people afraid of the “What If?” I truly think this is one of those times. I worry enough for women in the states where abortion will be so restrictive, it will be da-facto illegal. Let’s not push our luck by spreading easily debunked rumors, as it will give those who oppose us even more ammunition to debunk our genuine concerns. The facts of this case are bad enough without the need to fabricate any “possible future boogeyman”. (Not that I believe YOU are doing that, but those on Twitter, where you get this info, are more than happy to try to scare people.)
After 50 years of this law being in effect and two being overturned, they are going to come after the LBGT community--they will ban same-sex marriage, restrict to take away the rights gay people who want to adopt children, who knows what else? All the laws now that are in effect are threatened--and this is why it is so important for people to go. out to the polls in November or SOONER, before you run into something and can't vote for whatever reason. The government is trying to and is succeeding in controlling people--and if we don't vote these old geezers out --if we don;'t vote BLUE, then you can bet they will also go after those rights and laws.
This was not a law that was overturned. The law to legalize abortion has never been passed by Congress. The was the overturn of a poorly written and based decision by The Supreme court in 1973. When Congress finally gets the balls to pass a law, the court will have no reason to decide on it.
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As long as the US Supreme Court has its current members, no personal right is safe any longer except the right to own a gun.
I want to be clear why.
This is the 10th Amendment, the last amendment in The Bill of Rights:
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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In the past, the Tenth Amendment was used to give people rights - such as a right to privacy for abortion and a right to have homosexual sex. Since the Federal Government did not have any enumerated powers regarding legislating these areas, they fell under the Tenth Amendment and "... are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The problem with the current conservative Supreme Court is that many take a strict constructionist approach meaning that "If it's not explicitly in the US Constitution, it's not in there and you don't have the power or right."
That's a problem.
Here's the Tenth Amendment again with my emphasis...
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, ___OR___ to the people.
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That "OR" is the problem.
It means the states OR the people, but it doesn't say which has rights and powers and which do not.
What THIS US Supreme Court is doing that previous Courts have not is basically throw out the "OR" and make everything go to the states.
This is why abortion is no longer a right. A right to privacy was never an enumerated right of the individual, so they are leaving the issue up to the states.
The longer-term problem is that, for centuries, this ping-pong over abortion rights can go back and forth between conservative and liberal Supreme Courts for generations. Unless there is a Constitutional Amendment clarifying the Tenth Amendment or enumerating certain individual rights, ALL individual rights - except to own a gun - are threatened.
And I want to be clear: ALLLLLL personal rights are now threatened.
For example...
Do you like meat?
Suppose you live in a state that outlaws the consumption of meat.
You go to court saying that the state doesn't have the right to do that.
Well, after today's Supreme Court ruling, it certainly does! So, congratulations, your "right" to eat meat no longer exists.
Yes, that IS how the 10th (AND the 9th) Amendments work. At the State level unless explicitly Federal.
OR "to the people"? That is where citizen initiatives come in. Not tyrants in black robes waving a gavel. You want to rest your claims to magically read stuff into The Constitution on THAT?
And that is why you should keep government more at the local and state level. It is far easier to fight City Hall, and then your State government, than it is the Feds.
@Curmudgeon Well, my point is that the Tenth is ambiguous.
Nothing was ever dilineated between what goes to states and what is left for people.
And, back in 1791, maybe that had to leave it that ambiguous to get it ratified.
If the Tenth was less ambiguous, then the culture wars would be almost non-existent.
First off, no, the court very explicitly said that it will NOT be revisiting those issues, and the only person who has even considered it is Justice Thomas, and he wouldn't be able to do anything of the sort by himself even if he wants to without a majority support. You are being lied to.
The Supreme Court's decision also didn't illegalize anything. All it did was (rightfully) identify that the issue of abortion is not something that the federal government has a role in as defined by the constitution, and therefore it is fully in the hands of the state governments. Roe v Wade and its successors were very idiotically founded on and protected by a precedent of "making sh*t up that isn't there," and as far as politicians are concerned, the only reason they really cared about it so much is because that precedent gave them loopholes for government overreach elsewhere, and it's very likely that other, lesser known rulings will be revisited as a result. There have been several points since Roe that they could've actually amended the constitution and passed it into law if abortion was that important to them, IE Obama's first two years in office when the Democrats had total control of every facet of government, and public support for abortion was generally more favorable. Due to how the new ruling has been worded, it will also be extremely difficult to ban it (or much of anything else) nationwide, so it's not as much of a "big win" for the pro-life movement, though it will draw significantly more attention to state elections, which is on the whole a good thing.
Everything you just said is straight up false. First, you NEVER had a right to an abortion. Amazes me that this continues to be understood as true. Roe argued that women have a right to privacy as the Constitution and its predicting documents afford it. But Roe should've never been heard by SCOTUS. The PEOPLE have the power; not the Justices. We vote officials in. So elected officials can make the laws. SCOTUS doesn't make laws. If it did, we'd be in serious trouble. So you don't even understand what you are arguing.
Abortion isn't even illegal in the country tonight. So relax, go to Kalifornia, get knocked up through being totally irresponsible, and kill an unborn child in your womb if you want. That same state restricts an actual constitutional right to keep and bear arms, but I'm sure you don't care about that. You only care about when you decide to kill children, as well as blaming an inanimate object instead of the killer.
Were you on the side of the people who didn't want the vaccine? Their bodies, their choice, right? Yeah, didn't think so.
Moving on...
In general, very few countries on Earth have a complete protocol of laws that respect the notion of moderated, free-thinking consenting adults.
The fact that the one crime that the most countries came together to enforce was about drugs should be reprehensible. That many nation of the world did not come together to ban rape or slavery. They came together for controlling human consciousness as a non-violent crime. Rights? We piss on the Constitution when 3 out of the 4 heads on Mount Rushmore would be raided by the DEA today. Other countries trying to act better are more often less free and more complicit in enforcing a paternal state so as to not go to the trouble to teach people moderation. They get to sneer at our gun rights because they're comfortable in not being feared by their government. There are media ties to the intelligence apparatus and Americans don't have to take the division rhetoric at face value but it sure is entertaining to some. The game is plain to see.
Do you see a difference between marriage and civil unions that isn’t semantic? The law treats them the same. Why would you want to have a religious ceremony from a group that disagrees with you anyways? My wife and I have a civil union because we didn’t want the religious aspect. I’ll make you a deal: you agree to constitutionally protected gun rights without further debate and I’ll agree to your civil union. Neither of our opinions change anything, but in the spirit of understanding and cooperation with all people, it seemed like a good discussion to have since the rights in question are very important to both of us. Check out the group Pink Pistols which does both.
https://www.pinkpistols.org/
Abortion was NEVER a "right" - ever!
That decision came about via judicial activism, since Democrats can't enact anything like that LAWFULLY. This is how R v W SHOULD have been decided 49yrs ago.
I HOPE the SCOTUS does the same thing concerning gay marriage since that's not a Constitutional right either. Overturn that decision too and send it back to the individual states - like it WAS before the SCOTUS screwed that up!
You do understand, right, that strict constructionism works both ways.
Your problem now is that, except for owning a gun, you no longer have any rights.
I am serious about that.
Every single right that you think that you have - if it is not enumerated in law - then it is under threat of disappearing.
Roe got overturned because there was never an enumerated right to privacy or abortion so the SCOTUS gave the control of such rights/privileges to the states and took it away from you.
Think of everything that you do in your life that makes you happy.
Now imagine the state you live in outlawing it.
That's what can happen now because this SCOTUS considers the individual as a piece of shit.
No rights were removed. There is NOT a "right" to abortion in the first place.
The decision was simply correcting an error - the Fed gave back the states' responsibility as to how the STATES will handle the killing of 60 million innocent lives! This part IS in the Constitution: the Tenth Amendment. I am sure in three generations when students study case law for their degrees, that this will be judged a landmark decision concerning the correct, legal application of the Tenth Amendment.
Wake up and smell the coffee our government is controlled by super rich globalist that want ultimate power and wealth were they own and control everything including us they either what us dead global depopulation and the few that survive will be slaves
Its not a democrat or republican its not about abortion or guns this is global genocide they want 13 out 14 people dead and a world wide government that rules witb the iron fist of tyranny
Hee is a few of their actual quotes
"You will own nothing and you be happy:
" you will eat bugs and drink sewage water"
" the days of free will are over'
"Humans will become programmable robots"
Look up the- Word Economic Forum WEF
-Clause Schlob
-Evolve Noa Hurary
-The Great Reset
The world as you know it is going to change
I don’t even care anymore. I’ve given up on this place, particularly our citizens. We just are not a good and decent people. I’m done, man. I’m done. It’s not even the abortion thing, that doesn’t affect me in the least. I just venture out in the world every day, I meet people, and the usual conclusion is “I wish I didn’t speak to this person.” I have no solutions, I just quit. I’m just going to live my life how I want or die trying.
@MCheetah Haha…man. My fear is just that people suck everywhere. I just can’t be around people who suck. And it seems like almost everyone sucks.
@MCheetah I don’t think I’d get along with the right wingers there…. but maybe if I had enough land to insulate myself😂
So the REPUBLICAN FAR RIGHT Got rid of abortions - and allowed open carry laws- What next will you want to take away / add?
this is mine... They will for sure go after Gay Rights. Get rid of women having the right to vote as well as eliminating the Equal Rights Amendment. They will probably get rid of the "4 year Term" for President and put Trump in for life. And bring back slavery. We are so backwards we probably will see Jesus or the Dinosaurs!
Hey Trumplets.. The best part of you is still that cumstain on that pay per hour hotel room!
first of all dumbass the democrats were the ones wanting to keep slavery, and you have the audacity to assume republicans want to bring back something, they were against in the first place,
I'm pro-choice, but if you're gay, how is abortion even a concern for you? Seems like you're mad just to be mad.
I agree though that this is bad news for the future of the United States. But I saw this coming months ago. The US as a country, is getting a divorce.
I'm angry because I have empathy for those that this is affecting now. And if I'm ever raped, then I want this option.
good the democrats need to get the hell out of this country, we don't need the democratic party, it's not a requirement, they simply do not need to exist, it's time for the democratic party to end
No rights have been revoked. They've been AFFIRMED, which is the exact opposite. The Federal government does NOT have the right to ignore the tenth amendment.
Did you learn NOTHING from the mishandling of the Covid crisis? Or are you simply so mired in the mentality of victimhood worship that you see any move against your legal privilege as a personal attack?
I'm sorry but what? You can't figure out why I'm upset that a legal privilege of mine is being taken away?
I bet if you had something affecting you taken away you would get it.
You HAVEN'T lost anything. All that's changed is that individual states are now free to make their own laws regarding abortion, like the tenth Amendment says they're supposed to be able to. This is an affirmation of rights- well, right; I suppose it's just the one- not a removal.
You're upset about the Supreme Court no longer protection abortion rights on the federal level; okay. Does that really mean more to you than having them revoke your rights to work or obtain housing or engage in basic commerce? Put your persecution complex aside for a moment and consider the situation rationally.
I am so sorry for any minority group in America rn, it's disgraceful what has happened
Well, the right to refuse an experimental gene therapy is one the Democrats are dying to take away, as well as the right to due process and equal protection of the law. And First and Second Amendment rights. All of those rights are being eroded we speak by criminal traitors who call themselves “Democrats”
"The court said it should reconsider same-sex relationships and marriage in the future."
I 100% agree with this. Put the fucking liberals on the defensive for once. Let them have a taste of their own medicine for once. They've had their way, almost exclusively, for far too long.
Grow up, kiddo.
Shitty things always come to shitty ends - weak laws are no different. They will always fall in the end, just like slavery, racial segregation, apartheid and Roe V Wade were shitty laws, and so are many others the US has pushed through of late.
It's little to do with "rights" - as they were protecting wrongs in the first place.
The the Supreme Court went half way on abortion.
Should be federal ban on abortions. As of now abortions will still be legal in some states.
Next, ban gay marriage and same sex couples can't adopt kids.
Afterwards, America will begin to heal from its wickedness.
So I don't have any rights over my body or who I love?
You can do whatever you want.
You just said to fully ban abortions and same-sex marriages...
That is literally the meaning of me not being able to do whatever I want.
I won't be able to marry the person I love because they have a vagina like me... that makes sense?
I wonder why they’re not banning guns instead which is something that is actually dangerous and harmful💀🤡
@Shamalien just like no one should be deciding for anyone whether they can abort a pregnancy or not🙄
@Guy_ I’m wasn’t even going to address you but I will donate you the time to reply this one time. there are many reasons as to why someone decides to abort a pregnancy, and it’s not because the mother feels like “oh I feel like killing this baby”🙄
I’m sure guns causes a lot more harm in America than abortions so the fact that they decide to revoke the rights to deciding for ones own body, 2 different ways… is just insane.
@Shamalien well isn’t that what the American government did…? and that is exactly what I was referring to, not YOU personally.
I'm all about not coercing anyone and not taking away anything whether it's your freedom, health, or property. If everyone was taught morality, there wouldn't have to be man made laws.
Obviously the government has agendas for many years ahead and the plan to taking guns away is not for a good reason.
Theocracy, by its very nature, is a dictatorship. Evangelicals HATE freedom, because freedom leads to world where their precious 2000-year-old bible can be "voted down."
Unfortunately in the eyes of many in the US and approximately half the government do not care about all people being free if they think their morals tell them it's ok to treat you so. It's not supposed to be a radical Christian nation but I think it's starting to become one. Freedom of expression and religion to conservatives and radical Christians mean freedom of expression as long as my Bible says those expressions are ok and that your religion is mine.
Probably gay marriage, right for women to vote, shit anything at this point.
So curmudgeon, fuck your predictions.
Why is it the government's responsibility to care about your body?
Also why do you need the Government's permission to 'love' anyone?
As for marriage, what benefit to you or the rest of society is there for giving you a license for a now non-binding relationship not protecting children you and your partner are not equipped to share regardless?
How are you not wasting your time and money on such a 'license' you have redefined as being simply about 'love'?
No one has taken your right to abortion. If you believe that than you truly do not understand how the government works. All turning over roe v wade did was push the power back to the states. If you live in a state that made it illegal, leave the state for another one where it's legal. It's still completely legal in most states. If you don't like the laws in your states, vote in representatives that will make the laws you want...
Reading most of the comments to this question it's clear most of the women of gag are either ignorant of how the government actually works, or are too lazy to try to understand, and would rather whine rather than do something about it.
Okay sure, but it sets the precedent for future rulings such as the legality of being LGBTQ or gay marriage will 100% be stripping my rights as a U. S. citizen.
Except that's not happening.
Yet...
Justice Thomas said the court should reconsider protective contraception, same-sex relationships and marriage so...
Just because he said that doesn't mean they will. Do you even understand how scotus works? They can't revisit old rulings. They can only take new cases. A case against gay marriage and contraception is unlikely to make it to the Supreme Court in the near future. And there are no cases now. Unless they have a case to rule on, it's simply not going to happen. Even if it did, the solution is simple, vote people in your state that will either make it legal at the state level or keep it legal at the state level. You have the power it's Called the right to vote. And no one is taking that from you. Not without someone posing an constitutional amendment, meaning the Supreme Court can't do anything with it...
Lol Roe v. Wade made it back to the Suprene Court. You can't say that a case on gay marriage won't make it there either. Okay sure, it may not be tomorrow, but I'll still very much be gay when it does make it there. And I'll most likely be married if it takes as long as you're suggesting.
So at that rate, my marriage could be deemed illegal.
Nice try though bud.
States were meant to be able to govern themselves. Go live in a state that allows you to marry your girlfriend and get all the abortions your heart desires.
Greatest country in the world just doesn't want to kill babies and make me pay for it (tax dollars go to medicaid and most people dumb enough to get a surprise pregnancy are on medicaid) I think it's a good thing
That is just the start we moving to be more like a Communist country, and this has been going on for 50 years so if you want it to stop vote every politician out of office and do not vote a politician that is with a party vote independent, so they have no ties with lobbyist's and vote them out at their first term unless they are doing a good job and doesn't take money from lobbyists we control what we want not them use your power
They are going after birth control and gay marriage according to one of the SCOTUS judges.
This is absolutely vile. Nobody should have their rights taken from them just because other people don't like it. They have no idea of the harm this will cause others, and I don't think they care.
Honestly I don't know all I know is jrs idiotic and disgusting behaviour. I'm really sorry for how it has impacted you. As far as I'm concerned laws like should he considered criminal. And not allowed through. I'm sorry for anyone who has to suffer because of who they as a result of where they live. It's not okay
The right to kill inocent people and not be punished for it.
We wouldn't want to put these evil people in jail, after all, they have rights!
It makes me wonder "what's next?"
I'm scared of what's next.
Think this has resolved the argument for “u can’t take my guns it’s my constitutional right” looks like they can. Don’t worry they won’t, they pro life lobbies don’t pay as much as the pro gun lobbies so ur military grade weapons won’t be going anywhere!
anyway, I’m off to read padlock monthly coz I’m really really really into home security!
Hate speech laws violate the 1st amendment, gun control violates the 2nd, property tax in a way violates the 3rd amendment, patriot act violates the 4th, red flag laws violates and #metoo advocated for the violation of the 5th amendment.
All of our rights were forefit a long time ago.
Well Clarence Thomas already talked about repealing gay marriage, access to contraceptives, etc.
So, we all know what is next.
I bet he’s a republican… isn’t he?
Well most of the court is republican that’s why you can bet they are going to look into these other rights. The weird thing is the same legal logic can be applied to interracial marriage.
Thomas weirdly enough is in an interracial marriage.
But the legal ruling is that there is nothing in the Constitution specifically about abortion, therefore there should be no court ruling permitting or preventing abortion. The problem is that can be applied to any right not granted by the constitution, gay rights, civil rights, etc.
I think guns should be banned. They’re pro life supposedly, they should keep that energy for the weapons that are wiping out their children as well.
Didn’t save the lives of elementary school children
No I will not turn off the TV just to live in the magical fantasy land you delusional mfs live in, go touch grass and open your eyes to how fucking terrible America is and how the rest of the world is looking at you all with nothing but pure disgust
Yeah they’re going after innocent children instead, what do you suggest? arming a 6 year old with an MK-47 so they can walk from maths to English without getting shot?
Nope, you’re being programmed. And your head is too far up your own ass that you can’t see it. Wipe your eyes, they’re full of shit.
Look banning guns only takes them out of the hands of legal gun owners. Any bad person can find a gun on the streets easily. You TV brainwashed people r so fucking naive I bet you’ve never really seen how people live on the streets or sat down and talked to gang members and drug dealers, you don’t know shit
The fact you can’t see how insane it is that kids and teachers need to be armed is truly mind blowing. You’re definitely the one in the fantasy land. The rest of the world is looking on pure disgust. America as a pile of shit.
Your just as delusional politicians and government. You’re all mentally unstable.
My country has gun laws, no one has walked into a school and open fired on little ones trying to get an education. People are able to go to a grocery store or cinema here without having a gun emptied into them. That’s the real world. America is on its own. The thought of going to America makes me feel sick with fear.
But hey! If you think the solution to gun violence is arming 10 year old Jimmy with an assault rifle then you just proved to me how delusional Americans truly are.
The point is the fact that your government let it get this far is the problem. All it took for Ireland to bring in gun laws was one school shooting. Your government brushes off school shootings like they’re nothing. The issue could’ve been solved years ago, but you keep digger yourselves a deeper grave. It should never have been able to get this bad in the first place.
The overturn of Roe vs Wade DOES NOT ban abortions. That is a liberal lie.
It returns the decision to the state government rather than it being federal. Abortion is not protected by the Constitution, therefore the decision by the judges back 50 years ago was wrong. Until it is passed into law by Congress and the POTUS, it cannot be protected on a federal level.
They said nothing about same sex marriage, by the way.
Many more rights will be taken away until they are back to middle age law and they will blame the 'libs' throughout the process.
They are taking our guns
You have no real free speech
You have no right to privacy
No freedom here
does it mean the morning after pill, contraceptives are also banned?
No, but I'm pretty sure that is something they will be"reconsidering" in thy future.
Stop being brainwashed. Abortion isn't a right and never was. Also suicide and drugs have been illegal forever so you've never actually had "rights" over your own body regardless of gender.
First abortion, then..
Contraception
Gay marriage
Shared toilets
Uses of non-standard pronouns
Recreative drugs
Breast feeding in public
Colouring hair for students and other guidelines
Do I need to continue?
it's high time for a Second Civil War and DNC 2024 will be the next Fort Sumter
@JustiReno quiet commie
@H8INCHES oh it will happen democrats have proven they are incapable of holding any power, which is why they must be destroyed for good
@JustiReno how about get the hell out of my country you traitors to the united states of america, we don't need the democratic party to breathe the patriotic air, the democrats need to go willingly or by force,
All the Supreme Court did was rightly place the decision on abortion legality at the state level. They didn't outlaw abortion.
They will be coming for us next (the LGBTQ+ community... not like they haven't been) we can get killed for loving who we love in different states. Like why is it any of your business!
So far no rights have been revoked. Gun laws are the closest.
greatest part about it is that you're guaranteed the freedom to leave.
renounce your citizenship and surrender your passport as you leave.
It’s only free because of those who died for it…. People like u or anyone who never served for the country never created freedom for the nation
Could you provide a source for "the court said it should reconsider same-sex relationships and marriage in the future?" No? Because it's bullshit you just made up this second? Oh, okay--cool.
Page 118-119 of the official Supreme Court decision on Roe v. Wade. Justice Thomas is the justice that suggests the court reconsider.
It is from the actual court document.
So... not made up... lol nice try though.
All the ruling said was that abortion is up to the individual states to decide. It hasn’t been taken away.
@Agagagagaga
Let me sat this again...
It's also the implications...
And there are plenty of states willing to take the right away.
So it seems as though you’re upset about something that hasn’t even happened yet, no?
I agree that gay marriage and especially gay adoption should be revoked, also womens voting and driving anything larger than a scooter should be eliminated, not good for society
Why do you need to be married your kid will be lower than a bastard
Murder is not a rightand should not be seen as such
Probably something to do with banning free will. Next you'd hear that US government is making even the smallest decisions on people's behalf and call itself a free country.
I know the government does a lot to deliberately harm the people.
We need morality more than anything else.
I can't predict the future, so obviously can't say with certainty what will happen, but they could revoke peoples right to recive child support, leftist indoctrination in education, right to carry guns... Plenty of choices
So you're a lesbian fighting for abortion.
The left ladies and gentlemen.
Hopefully they revoke same sex marriages.
You need to care more about your body than big government. Be mindful of what you allow into it and you should be fine.
After everyone willingly obeyed the covid lockdown rules, the Government will try everything.
Covid was the test
When the courts can decide what your rights are you don't have any.
Slavery will be reinstated, but just not for only the Blacks.
The Court did not say that. Only one Justice said that a second look should be taken, but they cannot do that until a case comes before them.
Well Clarence Thomas is trying to revoke same sex marriage and birth control
Hopefully they revoke citizenship for black people and send them to Haiti with their African buddies
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