Absolutely I am responsible as much as the woman. Though obviously, for biological reasons, that responsibility will be carried out differently between the man and the woman.
Truth be told I have gotten four women pregnant. I knew we were having unprotected sex and I was prepared for the consequences. I did not care. All we knew is that we wanted each other's naked bodies - to do what nature made us to do, so to speak.
As nature and our instincts made us to have sex, so the consequences were apt to be natural. Besides, I'll be honest, there was something hot about the idea of getting a woman pregnant. Of putting my sperm in her and making a baby and why wouldn't I want to take responsibility for that.
For all that, I love my children with all my heart. The first woman had a miscarriage. Of the two other women, one is my girlfriend of over a decade with whom we have had three children - my little Munchkins as I call them.
The second woman was a one night stand. We did not really know each other and, long story short, we had a night and following morning of some amazing sex. It was pure animal lust and that was that.
Then about 12 years later, out of the blue, she tracked me down to let me know that I had gotten her pregnant that night and that she decided not to tell me. However, as our son was entering his teen years, she decided he should know his father. So she tracked me down, told me, I took a paternity test and - sure enough - I have a teenaged son of whom I am incredibly proud.
Please note, she chose not to tell me. I would have been there for her - and my son - every step of the way had she told me. Further, when I was proved to be the father, I have not missed a minute to be with my son and, in fact, he will be spending a month with my girlfriend and his half siblings and I next week. I can't wait!!
The ONLY pregnancy I regret was the second one. That woman aborted my baby without telling me. SHE wouldn't take responsibility and instead an innocent little baby paid the price, and I miss that little one and not a day goes by when I don't think about how I never got to hold him/her in my arms. Honestly, if I dwell on it, it can still bring me to tears.
Yup, men and women are EQUALLY responsible. Our desire for sex is healthy and natural. In evolutionary terms, it is how the human race got here, you might say. I would not hesitate for a minute - and I have not hesitated - to take responsibility for that natural instinct.
Beyond that, after the woman who became my girlfriend told me she was pregnant - we were dating but were not at that point quite calling ourselves boyfriend and girlfriend - I can tell you that I wanted nothing more than to be with her and to hold her and to protect her in any way that I could. To feel her in my arms, and to know that she was carrying the little life that we had made together was the greatest feeling in the world. Not only was I responsible from the moment we conceived our baby - I was proud to take responsibility and to do my part. Any man worth his salt would be.
I look at it like this I absolutely love sex I absolutely enjoy pleasing a woman I absolutely want to make her have two and three f o u r orgasms right in a row and that is my goal each and every time that I have sex with a woman I want to make her explode now in knowing this it is my job just as much as it is her job to protect each other before we even lay down with this person we have a responsibility of this the moment foreplay starts you have to know in the back of your mind either she's on the pill or you're going to be wearing a condom or both the man is given that choice and the girl should enforce it or otherwise no sex for that guy that should be the law that should be the rules they're my rules for me because I do not want to change somebody's life by getting them pregnant and that's not being together
So what I'm saying.
Is when it comes to sex it is a two-way street if you are not smart enough to protect yourself then you're not smart enough to have sex if you're not smart enough to protect yourself then you're not smart enough to take care of the baby or be financially prepared to have a child
So if you want to be selfish and you want to try to b******* the girl into every reason why you should not have protection that's on you that's on the guy but when you get that girl pregnant you are responsible 100%, you had an opportunity you had a choice to change the outcome by wearing a condom and you blew it that's tough s*** you don't get no overs that child doesn't get any overs you are held responsible and you should be f****** hell responsible for 18 years with every kind of financial support anything that child needs that man needs to pay up and same with the girl she also had the choice to either tell the guy to put the condom on or he's not having sex it's both of their responsibilities and they should both be held accountable and that's the bottom line that should be the law and for way too long there have been many many men that have gotten away Scott free because they weren't responsible for something that they should be held accountable for and same goes for the girl if you guys want to play you have to pay it says simple it's common sense and the odds are not in your favor that you're going to get pregnant it's just common f****** sense and for any man that denies that the child is even his because he didn't want to wear a condom he should have to pay double just for being a jackass and being stupid and thinking everybody else is stupid f****** morons it doesn't matter if it's a man or the woman they both should be held responsible
No! Unless you take the extremely short-term view; that is, only your lifetime, and ignore the more than 2 million years of human history, that is not possible. During the 2 million years of the Stone Age our women ancestors would have a mate that was a good provider and when ovulating, if her mate was out hunting, would have sex with an Alpha male; typically the Tribe leader. Do you think she would tell her mate? Do you think anyone could hold the Chief responsible?
And, if anyone attempted to hold another man responsible, he would travel 50 miles, further than most tribe member would travel in their lifetime, meet and join another tribe. Even 60 years ago, a man could not be forced to be responsible because he could move to another state and/or change his identity. At the time, it only took 15 minutes to get a SSN card and almost as easy to get a driver license. And, for a couple of dollars you could fill out a delayed birth certificate, have it notarized, and file it.
Currently, in the USA, men can be forced to be responsible, but that will not last another 50 years. Before then the society security Ponzi scheme will have collapsed and the USA will be a dictatorship. All democracies turn into dictatorships and that is where the USA is headed.
Yes I believe he should. If he loves the child which is because he truly loves the girl too, THEN, he should go to ALL of the doctor's appointments regarding the pregnancy and his loved one's condition!
He should share in the cost of buying the nursery furniture and all other baby necessities, even before that "bundle of joy" gets born!
He should also pay for a part of the birth plan in the hospital, etc. Also, after care for the mom, he should help out too.
It was also his fault that they conceived not just the womans.
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u Do you also believe that a guy should have a right to veto a girl's decision to have an abortion? I ask because most women want men to be responsible when they need money but they don't want the guy to have any rights when the issue is abortion. Don't you think that's hypocritical?
If you can prove that he is the father of that child. If women want to put the financial burden on men for child support, it can only be fair if:
A) Paternity tests become mandatory.
B) Sperm theft becomes illegal.
Meaning that a woman cannot make a man sign that birth certificate without knowing that he is the biological father of that child, and she is not allowed to ask for child support if she conceived the baby through sperm theft (the action of poking holes into condoms/stealing condoms/trapping men).
This will create more legal issues, in the sense that now the burden of proof will fall on the men to prove that they did not consent to have the baby born. That's why I always ask men to KEEP RECEIPTS. As far as Paternity fraud, 1 in every 3 babies is born to a man that is not the biological father. When they find out that they are not the father, it's too late to pull back.
Thus, men should not become financially responsible for a baby at the moment of conception, but the very moment they get a positive Paternity test.
Of course men should be responsible for there kids at the moment of conception. Yes men should be physically emotionally and financially responsible for the child he’s produced. It’s takes both male and female to create a child. Don’t have sex with someone your not willing to have a child with this goes for both men and women.
it’s hilarious the pro abortion people “this destroys hook up culture”. Pro lifers think that’s a good thing
”we’re not going to preform a sex strike no more sex with men we aren’t emotionally invested in”. That’s a good thing.
or “now I gotta think about weather or not I’m going to have sex with this guy because I might get pregnant” the New York Times I believe it was had an article where they interviewed a 17 year old in Texas that said something similar. Pro lifers think that’s a good thing.
Washington post ran an article about this girl who had twins she’s was going to get an abortion but the Texas law was in place she thought about going to another state to get the babies killed. Then she saw the ultrasound and fell in love with her kids and ended up getting married to the father of her children he works she stays home with the kids. The point of the article was to subject that this twin baby girls should have been killed in the womb so she could go to college and her boyfriend could confines hangout at the skate park instead of being a father to his baby girls. But according to the Washington post they twin girls should not be alive today. How perverse is that and entire article about how you should have been killed before you were born. In a mainstream news paper. Think about what your saying here
That depends whether or not you live in one of the states that now outlaws abortion. If you do, then yes, he should be equally responsible for the child (although I don't know how he could be "emotionally and physically accountable" while the child is in your womb).
But if you live in one of the states that still offers unlimited access to abortion, the answer is not necessarily. If you both want the baby, then yes, he should be equally responsible. If you want the baby and he doesn't then it gets more complicated because with responsibility must come concomitant rights and choices. If you as the mother have all the rights and choices and he has none, then by definition he should not have equal responsibilities.
I know that is a foreign concept to many women, but you need to get used to it because it's the right thing, and it's coming. The equality you have been preaching is actually going to happen and it's not all going to be in your favor as it has been for a half century. Far warning, it's coming, so you may as well start getting used to the idea.
Yes, BUT only if the impregnation is something he was aware of or even agreed to.
A woman who lies about being on birth control and unbeknowst to the man got pregnant on purpose should in my opinion relief the man from the burden of responsibility. Sure having sex will always be a risk. But deliberately getting pregnant against the wishes of the man is evil and predatory.
Now if it was an accident from both sides, he still should have the right to weigh in, but ultimately, he still holds part of the responsibility. Let's say the woman decides to keep the baby against the man's wishes, then he must have the right to distance himself from the burdens. But that would mean he has absolutely no right or opinion anything regarding the child.
In my opinion, men impregnating women and owning responsibility over the child should be a crime. If a man could just easily disown a child, why can't women have the same ability to disown their children? why can't all these single moms abandon their children at the park and just never see them again?
its really just unfathomable why prostitution is illegal but fathers abandoning their children is not a crime. We are dealing with human lives right here. A parent abandoning their own kid is not a joke. It is a serious offense.
“From the moment of conception” is the unique qualifier herein. I would say ‘yes’ but i’m willing to bet you don’t really want that. Here’s a taste of reality: in 37 states, any woman can declare any man the father of her child and in half of those states he CANNOT compel a DNA test to prove otherwise. Do you really want that blatant injustice to reach further? At the moment of conception, women claim paternity while simultaneously denying every and all measures necessary to determine paternity? Does that sound like “equal protection under the law” to you? Ell oh ell!
It takes a man and woman to make a child. So both are responsible for their child and it's their child. Not just her child or his child. Also it's responsibility of both to prevent a unwanted pregnancy. Also the number of abortions in a given time period would greatly fall of more men and women where responsible when it comes to sex. Frankly I don't care if you are a man or woman, if you disagree with the above, please get fixed. Because the world is already over run with stupid and illogical women and men. We don't need to chance you adding to the issue by having a child.
Men should have the option to be fathers just like women. He can't tell her to get an abortion, but he should be able to say that he doesn't want to be responsible for the child before it's born. Just as a woman is. Women actually have the option to get rid of a child at any time before they are 18 through adoption. But men pay regardless of whether they wanted the kid or not. Seem fair to you?
A woman can have the child, abort, or give them up for adoption. If they choose to they can get rid of any financial responsibility to the child, why should men not be allowed to do the same?
This is a philosophical question that abortion leaning women can never win.
Simply put, "should a man", is a moral or ethical question. In other species, women just get along with it by themselves.
No other animal asks such questions.
In the case of humans, Morality according to the Bible, Qur'an, a man should morally take responsibility.
However, morally according to the Bible, a woman shouldn't be sleeping around before marriage.
So if women want to make the argument that a man should morally care for a child, then by what morality should she be judged by?
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I'm gonna use some cold terms here but they make the point.
Anyone is only ever financially responsible of their own property. The thing about property is you get the last say in what happens to it.
All this to say that men owe you nothing as long as they get no say in what happens to the baby in question. It's only common sense.
And I do believe that someone's seed makes the end result their right and responsibility. But as long as this conversation is a none starter so is getting money
I can’t say yes or no. In a perfect world SHOULD they… yes… but abortion and single parenthood wouldn’t exist in a perfect world.
I think consequence needs to return to our choices. A woman whom gets pregnant without being with someone should struggle and suffer as an example for the rest of society. We can’t save everyone. We shouldn’t try. Welfare systems sounds beautiful like we’re helping… but you need to have consequence to prevent the masses from following in the footsteps of poor choices. Welfare systems are okay for helping people that trip and need help up but they hobble people that rely on them. I see abortion and any form of abandoning responsibility as welfare that hobbles people.
Poor choices have consequences. This is a good thing.
So mostly I say yes men should be responsible completely for the life and the mother as should the mother be for him and the baby.
let's face it when a male loses control of his "swimmers" he loses control over the majority of the decisions made later on. Because I have seen firsthand how some women can and do commit paternity fraud I will say this. A man is an idiot if he does NOT wear a condom that has not left his sight since purchased. Then YOU make sure said used condom is flushed. This right here is why I chose to get a vasectomy many years ago. I have no issue with a couple having a child together. I just think both should be ready and both making the decisions. This is something that has bothered me for a while now. Baby trapping is wrong! Protect and dispose of those swimmers until you are ready mentally and financially to be a father. As to the actual question, yes, once a baby is made both are responsible for the child.
Well, since women love killing children through their "choice," why should the man be held accountable? Keep your power of "choice." Abort. Abort. Abort. Post how proud you are of your choice to kill babies on Facebook, get knocked up again, head back to Kalifornia for another abortion, and post more pics of your procedure and your smiling face. Be as proud as you can. You're a woman (although I am not a biologist and cannot define one from a professional perspective). You have rights.
Birthing people (imagine being called that), including men with uteruses and eggs, have rights to kill. What's the matter with you? Solve the problem so straight white men that you hate so much don't have to force a patriarchy on you, keep your wages lower, and oppress your rights.
Silly puppet! Hahaha!
I believe that with rights come responsibilities, and vice versa. If we're going to go at the standard that that men should be responsible for a kid at the moment of conception, regardless of consent, then that would require women to have the exact same lack of choice, via there being zero option of abortion or adoption. And it'd also require equal parental rights, so in the event of them breaking up it would result in default 50/50 custody.
If that's not the case, then no. If consent to sex isn't consent to motherhood, then it's not consent to fatherhood either.
Not really. Don't get me wrong, if the guy refuses to help raise the child he's a dipshit.
But if she wanted an abortion and the guy wanted her to go through with it or vice versa, we wouldn't be thinking about this like it's a two way street now would we?
Honestly, I'm getting kind of tired of not holding women accountable for anything and then they get all the same perks that guys get. It's like pick a lane.
No. Too many women act as if all us men voted on overturning Roe v Wade so they’re taking it out on us men. Did you forget s female voted in favor of it as well? If you want it to be your choice than a man should be able to opt out as well w out any financial obligations. Women saying mandatory vasectomies again like I voted for it. It’s the law for every male 18-35 years of age to register for selective services, something you don’t have to do which is a form of control over my body. But you don’t see us men crying about it.
I'm not a hypocrite. I want all women to be able to get abortions at any time, anywhere with no restrictions. Hell, I'll even pay more taxes for it. FAR too many useless ain't shit bitches are shitting out equally useless kids into the world and it's disgusting. I want abortion for free, for ALL. This is not sarcasm. I mean it.
Now, that said, no - men shouldn't be court-mandated to pay child support. Our wallet, our choice. Just like my body, my choice. It a woman can abort a child, then I should be able to abandon a child.
Yes for abortion.
Yes for end to court-mandated child support.
Until recently women had the legal choice to walk away from being a parent. Men have never had that right.
Men have never even had the right to know they have a child. A mother can legally not tell a father he has a child and rob him of his right to be a father. And, after years of robbing him of that right, she can decide to tell him so she can then legally claim child support from him.
Should a man be responsible for his child? Yes. Should he have more rights in the matter? Absolutely.
I've read through enough of your comments here to know your views are extremely gynocentric in the matter and you don't give a fuck about men's rights. So why should we give a fuck about yours?
So, my answer to your question, in your case, is no.
It seems you women are constantly pushing for men to have responsibilities without rights, and women to have rights without responsibilities.
Let me guess... you're a feminist, right?
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