Is freedom of expression important?

[Bratsondanielle]

I was recently told that you are forbidden 🚫 from posting certain things. I think in the USA 🇺🇸 the construction guarantees freedom of speech and freedom of expression which means we are able to say what we want!! What say y'all?

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Seems most believe in freedom of speech. Wonderful!! HAPPY 4TH AND LET FREEDOM RING 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 .. DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE 🚗 😌!!!

[CrazyGirl2]

The First amendment protects the freedoms of Press, Religion, and SPEECH! There is NO “freedom of expression” in the constitution, and that is on purpose! Whereas speech is very specific, even some self-expression forms are speech (like wearing a “F**K THE POLICE” T-shirt), there is NO freedom of expression whatsoever in the U. S. Constitution!
Imagine walking down the street and there is a well dressed guy with his cock in his hand, and he begins masturbating as soon as you are close enough to see him! With freedom of expression, THAT would be Constitutionally protected behavior, as he is only “expressing” his sexual urges, and w/ freedom of expression, nobody could make a law stopping it.
Speech is words and thoughts, and any physical action that MERELY furthers that speech (for example, donating to a politician), while expression is acting out on those words. For example, you are free to verbalize your anger at any specific situation, but you cannot EXPRESS your anger, because that would be violence!
As for Constitutional Freedom of Speech? I TRULY APPRECIATE that! My father is English, and I lived there for almost a third of my life! In England, you can be arrested for just OFFENDING or ANNOYING someone! A nightclub singer was arrested in England just for singing the 1970’s hit song “Kung Fu Fighting”!
Unfortunately, it seems that mostly right-wing websites are documenting this. When I searched for examples of people getting arrested in UK for speech, there were countless sites with examples, but they all seemed right wing. Here’s one: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2017/10/14/british-police-arrest-at-least-3395-people-for-offensive-online-comments-one-year/
The problem in the UK is section 127 of the Communications Act 2003, which makes it illegal to intentionally “cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another”
So, thank god for the 1st amendment, because without it, anyone could be arrested for literally ANNOYING someone!

[Bratsondanielle]

I know that in lots of countries it would be forbidden to post the above picture (it's so funny how muhamed (or whatever) is carrying his "wife" around with a bomb in his headthingy) but I'm glad here in the land of the free we can do such things

[CrazyGirl2]

If you get a chance, read that link above. In the story they actually mentioned that although police arrested thousands every year for speech offenses, certain Muslim speakers get to say the most racist, and threatening things, even on television, and the police never arrest them! Apparently, they think THAT would be racist! But instead they have defacto separate laws depending upon what religion you are… because THAT is NOT discrimination!

[Bratsondanielle]

Lol it's insanity

[CrazyGirl2]

Yep! Goat as hell, that I don’t live there anymore!

[Bratsondanielle]

You immigrated to the USA 🇺🇸

[CrazyGirl2]

My mother is American and both my brother and I were both born here. But yes, when my fathers visa finally came through, yes we emigrated to America! The truly disgusting thing was after over 7yrs his visa was still not approved, but the second he sold his company to a major American company, they secured his visa w/in 30 days!

[Bratsondanielle]

Trust me I have lots of legal immigrant friends and they tell the same story. If you're white, fluent English, and come legally, it's a fucking shitshow / cirkus sideshow- combo. It's years and years and years and pay this pay that pay here and there and running out to interview and health exam and... it's insane!!! One of my friend has been here 18 months and has yet to get a driver's license (drives anyway ofc) because--- let me start by saying he a) got his permit and b) passed the written and practical exam for the actual license!!! So boom THAT= LICENSE... no no no DMV said that they need the immigration forms i186 and s453 or whatever, right, and he's like "what does that have to do with a driver's license " ... so anyway they contacted immigration repeatedly and immigration say "we sent that " and my friends say "we haven't received it" immigration say "we can't send it twice" lol it's a circus 4sho and they can't open a paper or turn on the tv without seeing them just blast across the border down south omg... THEY don't need any papers!!! But ofc they ain't white either...

[CrazyGirl2]

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First, Please don’t make this about race, because being British, does not mean “white” any more than being American does! My father may not even be white, for all you know! However, as this is about immigration, not race, my dad’s race is irrelevant. The entire immigration system is FUCKED! The U. S. has different quotas for the maximum number of immigrants that may come here from each country! So maybe a maximum of ten thousand immigrants from Britain each year, but fifty thousand French can come! It makes no sense at all! There is no mathematical model that can be applied to ALL countries equally, like there should be! So that makes the whole process incredibly difficult for the average person, thus, you have to get a lawyer! Still, even with the vast financial resources my family has, it STILL took my father EIGHT YEARS to emigrate to the US, and that was only after U. S. Corporate lawyers got involved! So you can imagine how soul crushing it feels watching MILLIONS of illegal aliens stream across the border every year, KNOWING that they will be allowed to stay!

[CrazyGirl2]

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The Democrat party (which I used to belong to) believe erroneously that “Immigrants vote Democrat, b/c Dems allow illegals to stream across the border”! However… living in Central Florida, where most kids and teens are first generation Americans, including most of my friends (and technically myself too), I can tell you that is not even remotely close to the truth! Because they/we all came here legally, we know more than anyone how INSULTING it is to all the hard work and dedication our families went through just to get here, to watch the Biden Administration allow anyone who makes it across the Rio Grand to stay! It’s like a giant spit in the face to the 38.4 MILLION legal U. S. Immigrants! (Regardless of their race!) The best example of this is that Southern Texas had a Congressional seat that had been firmly held by the Democrat party for 151 years. It JUST flipped to Republican in a special election where overwhelmingly LEGAL immigrant US Citizens have had enough! People, ESPECIALLY legal immigrants are sick and tired of watching the Dems in congress, and the Biden administration ignore U. S immigration law, in the hopes that they will import millions of new Democrat voters!
As for your friends Drivers License… after 9/11 the U. S. passed a law linking driver’s licenses to immigration status! So if you are here on a temporary visa, the expiration date of your License MUST match the expiration of your visa! That’s why your friend cannot get their license until they provide the DMV with their immigration paperwork. If they don’t have it, they need to apply for a replacement, and they may need a lawyer to do it.

[CrazyGirl2]

by the way: The law relating to connecting immigration status expiration, with drivers license expiration is called “The REAL ID act” I don’t know where you are, obviously, so I included these links regarding the REAL ID act.
Real ID law : https://www.dhs.gov/real-id
Florida DMV (what to bring to prove you are eligible for a DL): www.flhsmv.gov/.../

[_deeznuts]

freedom of expression doesn't mean freedom of consequences.

[Chazmatazz269]

Geezus…
I suppose you meant ‘Constitution’ and not “construction”.
So here’s what most dummies don’t get about the first amendment: it applies to government suppression exclusively. The US Constitution was written to protect us from tyrannical governments, nothing more and nothing less. Nothing else applies. Your skool can still suspend you for running your mouth. Your employer can still fire you for running your mouth. Your social networks can still ban you for running your “mouth”. More importantly, you can STILL go to jail for doing dumb shit like yelling “fire” in a crowded theater or calling a false bomb threat in to a concert. Also, if you verbally threaten someone in most states, you’ve given them license to physically assault you in self defense! Freedom of speech does NOT mean freedom from consequences. If you’re not challenging a tyrannical government, watch your damn mouth! Ell oh ell!

[Jamie05rhs]

That comic was very offensive, but I support your right to post it!
(It's also true, in my opinion!)

[Bratsondanielle]

It is offensive. Meant to be. I must admit I mostly posted it because someone told me it "is banned" to post pictures of one of these. U can guess which.

[Jamie05rhs]

@Bratsondanielle So not only are you not wearing your hijab, you're being naughty in other ways as well. Lolololol

[Kenyazummo]

I think the left one is allaah or muhamed or whatever it's name is. That's the one that they don't want you to draw (or whatever). It's sometimes like in their countries its also illegal and they think it's the same here

[Jamie05rhs]

@Kenyazummo Yeah

[Sixgunsound]

When I was growing up there used to be a popular rhyme that went thus: sticks and stones can break my bones but words will never hurt me. Now when you use words that hurt peoples fragile and delicate snowflake sensibilities they come at you with sticks and stones and fire. How pathetic and weak are people who have to get violent over words?

[Sam_25]

I think "FREEDOM OF SEX" is more important than this nonsense. ✌️

[Bratsondanielle]

Definitely 100

[Bratsondanielle]

@Vivaldi @blackcosmo @Dinosaursandanime65 is this one of the banned pictures? One of the pictures that overrule the freedom of expression so to say?

[Sam_25]

I weeds n drive 😘

[Dinosaursandanime65]

I hope that didn’t mean what it sounded like

[Juxtapose]

Freedom of speech should definitely be expanded much more aggressively.

[NYCQuestions1976]

Yes... but only if it's "woke" speech nowadays. The rest of us need to be cancelled. lol

[_no_one_]

awh hell naww i am very offended by that
only a couple 100 million bucks can fix what i am going through right now because of someone's choice of set of words which i dont agree with.

[exitseven]

As long as it does not incite violence or some other negative outcome it should be all protected under the 1st amendment,.

[jshm2]

No.

As it's usually just dickheads who want to slander without consequences.

[driven159]

freedom of speak is a good thing as long as it doesn't cause danger and hurt freedom of expression is good as long as not causing a riot

[Anonymous]

The sad thing is your freedom of Rights should not interfere with my feet freedom of Rights. We can say what we want do what we want and we must suffer the consequences of what we do, be either good or bad.

[Surely]

Outside of falsely yelling fire or bomb. Most of the other things should not be illegal to say!

[Bratsondanielle]

Definitely

[SmokinAces2000]

Freedom of expression isn’t interchangeable with no consequences

[Guardian45]

Yes, it is, but NOT Hate Speech.

[Bratsondanielle]

Of course not. Nobody is promoting hate speech of course. Happy 4th 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[Andres77]

Agreed... but who gets to define what is hate speech?
Messing up pronouns got a kid suspended from school and they're pushing to charge him with a sex crime.

[Guardian45]

Ya, that would be ridiculous and is part of the problem with all this woke pronoun sh! t!

[Andres77]

ussanews.com/.../
The world has gone crazy.

[Bratsondanielle]

@Andres77 generally snowflake should get their own island 🏝 🙄 it's not ok here in the land of freedom and opportunity to have to weigh every single sentence for fear of hurting someone's feelings

[Guardian45]

English is hard enough without ALL THIS PC crap!

[Anonymous]

Yes I do but there are some things that aren't

[Bratsondanielle]

Ok then who will decide?

[Opinion Owner]

Common sense... I mean if you're going around butt naked. OR... If you are doing something sexual in public... Now you're crossing the line

[Ruenella_]

Yes..

[Bratsondanielle]

What say ye @JustiReno

[JustiReno]

I’m no attorney but believe in this country free speech is a protected right, which means “hate speech” doesn’t become a hate crime until there is an actual crime involved

[Bratsondanielle]

@JustiReno wonderful opinion. Thank you and happy 4th 🇺🇸

[NYCQuestions1976]

Yes.

[jahaims]

Duh.

[Adam-94]

What is that

[Bratsondanielle]

A joke. It's just a picture. But according to some people it's very forbidden 🚫 🙄 it's banned!! You are not allowed to post it.