Do we need grand juries randomly selected from voters with the power to subpoena and indict anyone, and the power to appoint prosecutors and judges?

[KelleyNice]

Grand jury members should be voters with certain education and knowledge requirements selected from registered voters with salaries equal to judges. They should have the power to subpoena any person and the power to fine and jail for contempt anyone, including the president.

Grand jury members should be voters with certain education and knowledge requirements selected from registered voters with salaries equal to judges. They should have the power to subpoena any person and the power to fine and jail for contempt anyone, including the president.

To be completely independent of control by judges and politicians, they need the POWER and MONEY to hire investigators, and appoint prosecutors and judges of their choosing with or without a law degree. Any person should be able to submit a charge and request to appear before the grand jury.

Without grand juries of and by the people, it is the people vs. the government, where the government has assumed all the power. Judges and politicians have given themselves and favored groups’ immunities. Government likes to claim they are servants of the people. However, the opposite is true because they are free to lie to the people but, just like lying to king, people go to jail for lying to the government.

The major problem with the US Constitution is there is no penalty for violating it nor is there a means of enforcement. A people’s grand jury would correct that because if the president commits some action or a judge make a ruling that violates the US Constitution, the grand jury can indict and if convicted, they can be fined or sent to prison. Especially, when indicting a politician or judge, the grand jury needs the power to appoint non-government judges and prosecutors.

This would not prevent court and government appointed grand juries, but the people’s grand juries would keep the government in check.

[abc3643]

"Grand jury members should be voters with certain education and knowledge requirements selected from registered voters with salaries equal to judges. They should have the power to subpoena any person and the power to fine and jail for contempt anyone, including the president."

While I can empathize with what you are saying, grand juries have to be selected from citizens without regard to education. They DO get paid for their services, but grand juries exist for finite periods of time and they cannot be employees of the government because, as employees of the government, they have a conflict of interest in criminal cases since it is the government that does the prosecuting. That is a violation of the 6th Amendment's impartial jury clause.

So, again, it is critical that they be normal citizens because of the 6th Amendment right to an impartial jury trial in the relevant district in which the alleged crime has occurred. If you start putting restrictions on the education of grand jury members, then two things occur: 1) In many rural districts, you may not be able to find a sufficient number of people who qualify to be on the grand jury and 2) you violate the 6th Amendment's impartial jury clause.

www.annenbergclassroom.org/.../


"They should have the power to subpoena any person and the power to fine and jail for contempt anyone, including the president."

Grand juries do subpoena and indict, but they have to do so regarding cases in their jurisdiction.
The power to fine and jail for contempt is a violation of Due Process clauses of the 5th and 14th Amendments. However, judges can issue warrants and such.

A good example is what is happening now with the January 6th Committee. It is issuing subpoenas for various persons to appear. When a subpoenaed person chooses not to appear, then the Committee hands it over to the Justice Department meaning that it will then begin a criminal case against that person. This pressures the person to appear and, if they don't, a federal judge will likely find in contempt and cause the person to be in prison until they testify. This is what subpoenas are all about - subpoena comes from Latin for "under penalty"; if you don't do what is required on the subpoena, you're going to get penalized.

Presidents can be subpoenaed and they have been. However, sometimes there is a balance between the needs of the court versus the needs of the country to have a president who is on the job.

An example of this was when President Clinton was compelled to testify in a lawsuit brought against him by Paula Jones in Clinton's 2nd term. Clinton did testify, but from The White House with taped testimony. Clinton lied under oath because he wanted to protect his image and his family - something a lot of adulterous men would do - but that was sufficient to rightfully get him impeached... but it was a minor offense that many men in the Senate probably could have empathized with, so they did not have the votes to remove him from office.

You should learn about the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) case Clinton v. Jones in which the SCOTUS ruled that sitting presidents may still have to testify in cases.

This is the transcript of the hearing ("oral arguments") in front of the SCOTUS by lawyers for President Clinton, Paula Jones, and an acting Solicitor General testifying as an amicus curiae ("friend of the court"... Do you know what that means? and what a Solicitor General is?)
www.supremecourt.gov/.../95-1853_01-13-1997.pdf

This is the actual opinion of the SCOTUS in this case:
www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/520/681

That's a very important SCOTUS case because it significantly adversely impacted President Trump.

[DWornock]

All government are evil and the rulers of all governments are evil sociopaths and psychopaths because any person with a conscious is unwilling to do the evil deeds required to become a ruler. There may be a rare exception; for example, Ron Paul, but they are few and far between.

Just like in the USA, the people will be robbed and oppressed unless they have the means to punish the rulers. Just like the following quote attributed to Thomas Jefferson, "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."

Therefore, since the rulers of the USA are all powerful and evil, and since they are oppressing and robbing the people, the USA needs grand juries just like you described in the text following you question.

[Adaeva]

People are selfish, whether rulers or the very poor and that applies even more to those in authority. Therefore, everything you say makes good sense to me so definitely we need peoples grand juries, it that would give power back to the people.

[Sixgunsound]

The problem with such broad and sweeping powers given to just about anybody, is that they would be abused. It is human nature to seek ones own advantage, and in the modern era especially one tribes political advantage. There would be a revolving door of increasingly less able figureheads as president until the elites, finally realizing that they won’t be getting any more resources or blood out of us peasants, give up and move somewhere where they still can. like it or not the people who keep the farm running for their own advantage, sure, still are the ones keeping it running for us as well. We get next to nothing out of it, but if the whole thing collapses we get nothing, which is worse than next to nothing.

[Staximus]

You sure ask some serious questions for a 13 year old. You're either a old fat guy (catfish) or a future leader.

[Guy13]

Your Homeschoolers must lose sleep with what is coming next with you ;-)

[KelleyNice]

It probably depends on the parents and the people they ask to provide an occasional lesson or lessons.

[Guy13]

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[IsoUser]

I tend to agree with you but unfortunately in America that will never happen, essentially in America you are entitled to as much justice as money essentially can buy $$ No more no Less

[Anonymous]

We need troikas that do judging, sentecing and execution all in one sitting. Fill out arrest quotas every day.

[RuthlessAggression]

yes. what we do now, isn't a democracy, it's a republic