White people are never the victims of racism?

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Police seeking 3 suspects who violently attacked woman, yelled 'I hate white people'  How can anyone possibly suggest that white people are never the victims of racism?

sage2021 · Accepted Answer

Isn't it strange that this whole racism thing wasn't a big deal until the crazy left came out of their closets and Biden became President?
I am an older woman and I have never had anyone call me a racist or hate me because I am white. At least not until now.
If only these hater's would strive for peace in their lives, they would have a better time on this planet while they are visiting here on earth.
If you continually have hate in your body, you'll eventually end up sick one day and it could make you very sick. So, it's your body, your choice right?

PamelaRivers · Accepted Answer

White people see racism all the time, just no one cares. I'm sorry that the past is not good but I didn't do it. I don't have any "privilege," I have to work my butt off to get what I have. We are all equal and until we all see that and work together we will always have problems.

youngmix · Answer

I don't understand beating someone's ass, then hollering about their entire race, it just makes you sound ignorant, no matter what your race is: "Fuck you [Asian/Black/White/Hispanic/Native American/Pacific Islander] bitch!"
That just sounds stupid and insane to me.

As for white people as potential victims, I think that there is a little bit to unpack first...
I believe that the modern language of the media has created some misunderstandings, and there are better terms for what we are talking about.

A "victim of racism" is actually a victim of discrimination. And discrimination is a product of power relations between individuals within a social context.
So, in specific contexts, a white person in the US can definitely become a victim of discrimination based upon their race. But, within the US, black people are frequently placed into social situations where they lack power, and those with power are able to discriminate against them in very influential ways.

Racism is the belief that one's race is superior to other races.
With the level of gene flow present in modern human societies, I find the notion of race to be a little hard to define. I have settled on the definition of race to be a person's perceived lineage, tied to physical features that are associated with indigenous communities within specific continents and countries.

My father is racially black, an Afro-Latino. He is half Puerto Rican, and half Indigenous American. When my brother was arrested (wrongfully), the police classified his race as "black".

And I've seen black people treat white people poorly because of their race, simple as that. Sometimes, it was my own family that was doing it. That is definitely discrimination, but I think that it's rarely a product of actual racism. Two reasons why:

1. I don't think that they did it because they felt that black people are superior, they did it out of a misguided effort to get even, to get revenge. To create terror in a white person, or to negatively effect a white person's moment, because they feel that white people either do not feel the suffering that they have felt, or because other white people have treated them badly. It always seemed petty to me, and I think that treating others well makes a far better impact on the world.

2. The examples of black on white hatred that I have seen have not been generalized barriers to a better life. They have not been large scale and systematic. They have been crimes, usually petty or violent, and one off cases. Usually they are crimes of opportunity, and not related to sense of superiority. I don't think that there is a large number of black people who believe that they are more fit to govern because they are black. Maybe to govern the black community, but not to govern in general.

As for this specific case, the woman or women who committed the offense seem offended by the white woman's lack of common sense. They seem to think that the woman has not seen enough violence, and believe that her race allowed her avoid certain interactions that would have alerted her to the fact that she could be touched.

I think that it was wrong. Plain and simple. If you don't want to be judged by your race, but the content of your character, then judge others by their actions, and just leave race out of it. Cut it however you want, but it was petty.

Imagine the opposite. A black man steals a car and gets arrested. A woman walks by and says, "I hate black people." WTF? Not all black people are living this reckless. Not all white people are ignorant and rude.

If she had said, "I hate *rich* or *selfish* white people." Then I think it would have expressed a more accurate sentiment, but it would still have been ignorant.

ohsheeT · Answer

To anybody that has pigment in their skin to anybody that's a human being for everybody that's been on here a. Of time or anybody this new on here if you're f****** racist turn off the f****** planet in the last past few years look at all the bulshit that's going on we are 98% of the same DNA we are 1% part of our parents genes our loving God at common sense and said okay this Earth is a very big planet I don't know where people are going to live and this planet has harsh weather conditions it just has harsh conditions and many many places I'm going to make my people ability to adapt the ability to adapt to any extreme harsh environment conditions so all these years time We Are Who We Are from our ancestors from wherever they lived and if you don't like somebody because their ancestors lived wherever they lived pigment changes in one's body because of where they lived by the chemistry are weather conditions our bodies you even f****** cares about that s*** if you're f****** races got the f****** planet if you're ignorant enough to f****** not understand basic life throughout hundreds of thousands of years if you think you're better than anybody f*** off because you're not nobody is better than anybody and if you cannot see that if you cannot see our government in 2022 has been playing a race game since the fifties the '40s the 30s if you're a hater get off the f****** planet if you f****** have not common sense get off the planet if you are ignorant get off the f****** planet because you suck I used to be a Democrat I hate the fucken Democrats because look at the games they play look at the politicians playing games to get votes the use people to get votes they're just as evil as ignorant people anyway what I'm trying to say is it each and every day you're going to have followers you're going to have ignorant people you're going to have losers try to play the race bait game and guess what is coming to gag and most of us know each other through our answers or our questions and I would say that 97% of us I reckon happy human beings we are friends and when you get an anonymous person 30 race-bait b******* we need to shut them down call them out we need to put a stop to this if you want to f****** be a race-baiter if you want to be ignorant get off the fucken planet get off gag cuz I'll call your ass out this is no place for any of this to happen this is a place for us to shut it down if you have a f****** excuse make it a real one an ignorant bulshit story because that's what gives you life fukkk offf get off the f****** planet I think about one more thing not a single one of us are white or black because every single one of us are pigment is completely different than anybody else's we are all Unique Individuals do you know how many different colors of white there is how many different colors of black there is millions we as human beings have proved that so just because my tone the skin is white doesn't mean that I'm f****** white just because somebody stole if skin is black does it mean that they're black we might have shades of color one of us is the exact same color of anybody else not a single one of us so grow the f****** so people please if you see are you read a race beat question on here please shut it down they do it for a reason don't let them win f*** them and if you can't be a leader f*** you too if you're ignorant f*** you too it's going to get worse before it gets better it's only going to get worse if you allow it to I'm sorry but I choose not to allowed it to every single one of us are going to need each other one of these days and it's coming faster and faster we have all every single one of us have all been sold out I don't care what race You Think You Are if you have a good heart I will fight for you if you're ignorant motherfuker I'm against you if you are a race-baiter I'm here or in life you're going to lose guarantee that

WhiteSteve · Answer

I’m a big fan of the old, seemingly retired word “prejudice.” “Racism” is muddy in it’s definition these days, and there’s debate about the aspect of societal power dynamics involved. Rather than have a tug of war over that, I’d think of an incident like this as prejudiced.

Reading the article, it’s very vague in its details….

”New York City investigators say the three suspects, all women, got into an argument with a 57-year-old MTA bus passenger.

The interaction escalated, and the three suspects allegedly began hitting the unnamed victim over the head with an unidentified object.

The assailants reportedly made aggressive racial remarks to the victim, and said that they "hate white people" and "hate the way they talk."”

So…obviously this shouldn’t necessarily end in a beating, I don’t know enough to be condemning or defending that. I’m unsure on the racially-motivated aspect, primarily. Forgive me, but I don’t really take much of what FoxNews says as unbiased (who even is unbiased these days, lmao), and their brand of bias is very often designed to run as “whataboutism” to counter more liberal politicians and liberally-biased media’s allegations of white people being racist or ignorant in some other way. They can’t necessarily refute the left’s claims, but they can respond with “oh yeah? Well what about THIS?”, and show some instance of a white person on the wrong end of it.

The hopefully obvious truth is that it’s all hateful and it’s all ignorant and it all sucks. But anyway, I’m a little dubious about how this is worded because the headline almost suggests she was beaten at random for being white, which is different from getting into a fight and in the heat of it expressing distaste for someone’s race, which of course is foul, but the context may matter.

What I need to know is what the white woman did or said to end up taking this beating and maybe why those particular words were spoken to her. It says there was an argument and it escalated into an altercation, and that’s when the racial comments from the black women came. What is not detailed is what the white woman said. She may have said something ignorant first. Maybe the women were talking, and this white woman could’ve given the ol’ “why do *you people* have to talk so loud?”, or something like that. Believe me, I used to take public transportation in Boston, I’ve heard that conversation/confrontation at least a dozen times. A comment like that has clear racial overtones, and that might inspire a group of black women to assault her, and yell that they hate white people and how they talk (meaning how they talk to minorities).

I’m not saying that’s what happened, I’m not saying it necessarily justified beating her up, I’m filling in blanks with my own vision of a possible story here, I’m just saying the nature of your source and the article make it questionable in terms of the way it’s presented. I see many white people in my everyday life having disdainful attitudes towards differences in cultural traits with people of other races and ethnicities, and the white folks seem to be a little hostile about it, in some cases anyway, and in my experience, it’s not generally reciprocated the other way around with the same animosity. Like I hear a lot of white people basically complaining that certain people are, in their estimation, failing to meet THEIR behavioral and social ideals, and I don’t hear quite as much of that from other groups towards white people, other than anything rooted in “I wish these white people weren’t being so hostile to us for not meeting their behavioral and social ideals that they’ve apparently decided can be the one and only standard.”

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

Well, racism is generally the belief that one race is superior to others, or that one race is inferior to others. There’s no evidence that these attackers feel that way. So definitely prejudice but not necessarily racism. I know that the idea of what racism is has expanded to suggest that any choice or behavior motivated by race is racist, but i’m not certain i agree with that. Especially since it’s a widely overused narrative by race baiters. If the new definition makes things worse instead of better, then the change shouldn’t stand.
I’m very anti-snowflake. People who insist on using victim status to leverage social status are terrible. If the worst part of your day was meeting someone who doesn’t like you because of the color of your skin, that’s privilege, not victimhood. Even if they said as much to your face, or hurled insults and slurs. Too bad. Once it escalates to violence, it’s a crime regardless of their motivations. That’s what we need to focus on. We punish people for bad BEHAVIOR not bad thoughts. Once we become thought police, the whole of mankind is doomed.

Brainsbeforebeauty · Answer

Funny you posted this, as I've been feeling that way at my job.. they had us do anti-racism training, that only depicted black people or Asian people dealing with racism... Why not show white people being treated racially as well🤷🏼‍♀️

Also, when people play the race card... If you want to be treated equally, you can't play the race card. .. If you get pulled over, don't say it's cuz you're black, admit it's cuz you were speeding, or cuz you got busted in a stolen car, or cuz were drinking and driving. . I can't say I got pulled over cuz I'm white🤷🏼‍♀️ Or can I if it's a black cop?

Or should I sue my job for racism when my manager point blank told me he couldn't discipline the coworker who keeps breaking the rules, expecting everyone else to do his work, etc. because he could say he's being discriminated against but yet they can discipline or fire white people?

Same employee who tried to play the race card when people complained about him

EtherealGuy · Answer

Society says that it's okay to be racist to white people, even to the point of violence, because they're by default bad and privledged people because they're white.

This is plainly stupid and statistically incorrect. White working class men are by far the most disadvantaged. Highest suicide rate, lowest higher-education rate, told that they're the evil aspects of society when they've done nothing wrong. They're blamed for evils which happened hundreds of years ago, which has always been amoral, blaming the sons for the sins of the fathers is a philosophically unsound position.

Violence is violence, and the grass is never greener, there's far more to things than advertisements and the media want you to know. Statistics are the only thing closest to truth.

People who kill themselves at 3x the rate of other races aren't privledged.

ccs884 · Answer

anyone can be a victim of racism. white people are just seen as more racist due to media. but i think racism itself is stupid. how are u gonna judge someone’s race just bc of the actions of a few people? my grandfather is one of the most racist, homophobic, people ik, yet im pansexual, and im the only white person out of all of my friends. yet, i could be walking down the street and because i’m white, someone will look to me and call me a racist. calling all white people racists, is racist. just like saying all people of color are violent. the whole thing is just so dumb.

NamerOfStars · Answer

Race hustlers, mostly. Of COURSE we're victims of racism, too- usually it's not the kind of horrific violent racism that black people got; but then, they don't really get that anymore, either (which is a good thing, don't get me wrong).

It's the same mentality that calls sexism "discrimination against women"; if you're part of a "victim class", then it's impossible for you to cross the line into being an "oppressor class", and that mindset says you're always one- and only one- of the two.

Uannoyme · Answer

I think this notion that white people can't experience racism comes from a desire to blame white people for everything. In order to convince people they're oppressed, the race hustlers need to be able to point to opressors. It's hard to paint people as opressors if they admit those same people can be victims too.

Lexi_87 · Answer

If you hate and attack somebody solely based on their skin colour then of course its racism. The whole...

"Black people can't be racist only victims"
and
"White people can't be the the victim only racist"

Is just bullshit. Anybody can be racist and anybody can be the victim of racism. Those who say its not are the biggest Racist and hypocrites and lying to themselves.

ShadezMcgee · Answer

It comes down to what has been projected. White people are framed as evil incarnate because they have colonized nations of others, turned other races into slaves, and get all the privilege and advantages in life compared to other minorities.

People drink that up so much that they forget other races are racist too and hate or have prejudice views of others as well. Racism exists in all races. That is a fact.

PhenomenalQueen · Answer

Of course they’re victims of racism… anybody can be a victim to racism… I just think it goes left for you guys because the stereotype is set up for Black people to be called “victims” and say that we’re being victims.. Also, even when it’s true for either group of people, it’s always frowned upon and a majority will call bullshit..

CourtneyJane2 · Answer

Yes. White people can experience racism as much as anybody else, but nobody ever says anything.

Back when I worked retail, I had a couple of Black female co-workers that used to hurl some rather nasty and hurtful racial abuse and epithets at me and the other white women who were working there. Management was informed of the situation multiple times but they never got punished despite the hostile work environment they helped create.

19magic · Answer

Cause we're a majority, reminds me of school I used to be bullied a lot and they used to say stuff like I'm so white that you can't tell where my shirt ends and my skin begins. That I'm so white I was like a milky bar, except that they actually have colour. So one time I said to him well at least I don't look like cocopops or bits of turd coming out of a horse's butt, and I was the one who was told off despite them doing it for months.

Rania05 · Answer

Why judge people by their color in the first place? Everyone has their beauty characteristics, as girl I always liked pretty people (especially girls) and praised them unhesitatingly regardless of their race. If praising a white-skinned girl makes one a racist, then this is the real racism

Alwayreckles93 · Answer

Black people will always try to find an excuse and blame their faults and mistakes on to other people. Apparently they think we're privileged which I find it interesting, Because we all have to work hard in order to accomplish every goal in life.

Datboi65 · Answer

Anecdotal evidence. Black people have faced the most racial hate crimes of any other group since 2019, which statistically speaking makes 56% of all hate crimes. Source: https://eji.org/news/fbi-reports-hate-crimes-at-highest-level-in-12-years/

As unfortunate as this maybe, you cannot just lie and bullshit us about how minorities aren't affected and White people have it worse, that's just not true. You lie and make up bullshit to have white supremacists agree with you to justify their racism, I've seen it a couple of times already.

Next time you read an article like this, do your own research. Stats don't lie as they say, and facts over feelings, isn't it? Well I gave you the facts, now you have to accept them.

Hulk30 · Answer

because racism is power based and is often confused for prejudice which is still wrong but dont compare to racism which realistically can only go 1 way based on the power that white people got my problem is with white people who are white supremacist and racist not white people per say if ya benefit at others expense ya gotta accept the responsibility that goes with bein in power as well same concept applies to females when it comes to gender feminism

ethanallen · Answer

Black people are racists.. I worked for a black woman who was a doctor. I never met anyone who hated white men like she did. Her explicit bias was evident in her behavior nearly every day of work. I never bothered to complain about because the workplace was 98 percent black people. During my interview, she actually asked me "Have you ever worked with black people before?" I used to have a positive feelings about black people but now I see them with a degree of contempt. The biggest sign of a black racist is when they go to a "black college." The only purpose of "black colleges" in the United States in 2022 is to foment hatred and racists attitudes towards white people. I would never hire a graduate of a "black college" because that black person will disrupt the workplace and lower productivity with racial animus.

Massageman · Answer

Flat out hogwash.

I was told- face to face, point blank- and I quote, "If you were a black female, I could hire you in a second". unquote

This was for a computer programming position for which I had applied, taken a battery of tests for the position: and they WERE in-person, so the hiring company DID know my sex and "race" before the interview.

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

I believe all races of people can be victims of racism, I moved down for this Hispanic woman with her children and she treated me like a piece of garbage and I felt it was racially motivated towards me, she spoke to them in Spanish looking at my way wow all I did was move down on this big bench to let them sit down and it just shows I was a victim of racism as a White man from that Hispanic woman

EarthRealm · Answer

If the news never Talked about Propaganda and Spread moral hatred then the news would never be Interesting.
Someone getting Killed makes the news Interesting to watch.
Some Black guy Getting arrested by police after Running away on foot as a Helicopter follows them makes the news Interesting.
Without criminals the news Would be boring.

Exterminatore · Answer

White people are by far the greatest victims in America of overt and open racism currently.

Not only is it approved of but encouraged.

Coca Cola telling their employees to be less white. Let’s bankrupt Coca Cola and show Woke companies that they should focus on making a profit and not on being racist to white people or they will be out of business.

Surely · Answer

When you have a presidential candidate saying that his VP choice will be a woman of color. Then as president he says that his SCOTUS pick will be a woman of color. Then racism against non colored people must be legal!

When I was fresh out of high school. There were certain job offers that only had openings for people of color. Regardless of qualifications. They were mainly state government jobs.

Jessica405 · Answer

My mum worked in retail for a short while, in a town with a high black population. Most black customers were great, but a few were definitely racist, especially one shoplifter.

lightbulb27 · Answer

we are and have been. the left defines it such that the majority can't experience racism. p. s. this would be a racial hate crime, better prosecute it. p. s. p. s - Jamaica Nyc is rough...

1GoldTwins · Answer

I've seen a video of a couple being attacked by black women. One race hates on the other, racism. Nowhere in the dictionary does the definition imply that the victim has to be black.

Sixgunsound · Answer

Because it doesn’t fit the leftist narrative, and the parties are unevenly matched and their ability to blast propaganda through every fiber of peoples being. The right has the publicist equivalent of Bingher trying to reach the Kenosha jury.

Anonymous · Answer

Ok stop, y'all acting like you get racially discriminated against everyday? This is so stupid it's not even funny. There are millions of articles on black men and women being murdered by white people solely because of they're skin tone. This is one of maybe a couple thousand articles of a white person being discriminated aganst. Yes, racism against a white person is plausible, but it is most definitely not a major issue. Not only that, but this one guy said white people are a manority. I'm sorry, but what in the actual hell. Yeah, maybe in Africa or China white people are a manority but I'm very sure that most of you guys are Americans or Canadians or some other white-filled country.

I'm saying this out of absolute disgust how you guys are blowing a small issue out of proportion like this. I am a white person myself and I have received literally two racist comments towards me, but that DOES NOT compare whatsoever to what I've heard people say to POCS.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

This is the narrative of the left which seems to rationalize violence against white people, minimalizing the victims, and corrupting the system to make it acceptable. This is the true evil work of the left.

ArtemisSilver · Answer

It has to do with the distorted doctrine of leftist identity politics. To them every white person is an oppresser, except of course their virtuous selves.

I swear the far left gets more cult like by the day.

ILOVEBEAUTY · Answer

Black men are the most chill compared to black women. Interesting as hell. Seems black women hold that stereotype they're never happy and play victim

Maybe go target actual racists and help your people.

England4eva · Answer

I have not personally been a victim of racism, but I have experienced sexism, heightism (prob made that name up) and in general bullying for the way I look or the anxiety I suffer from. There are multiple ways to bully or deplete a person. But never been judged for colour of my skin.

Agape93 · Answer

Because they're fucking stupid.  Wasn't an act of violence, but one of my exes sister hated me simply for being white. It happens.

Anonymous · Answer

There was a girl how was crushing me but I rejected her when I found her Facebook account and found posts of her sleeping around with black guys and my family don’t like people like that who sleeps around. My family isn’t racist but they want someone who has more respect with themselves and with me. Racism will always be on going problems for eternally

HighValue · Answer

People are racist towards White people more than any other group in the USA. It is very common.

Andres77 · Answer

Poke the bear enough and all this shit will end. They think they're growing in momentum and don't realize it's all a trap. It will end.

GutsNCascaBerserking · Answer

Obviously yes! No one cares though. If anything, White people are told to just get over it, accept it, and move on. The social strength does not exist in the White community. We truly live in a victim society.

DJB72 · Answer

Bullshit

I've been told in job interviews that despite being the best candidate for the post I'm excluded because I'm White. I've had an HR manager change the requirements for a job in an English speaking post to disqualify me DURING THE INTERVIEW because I don't speak an African language.

I've had rocks thrown at me and told I'm a "traitor to my race" because my wife isn't white.

Anybody can be a victim of racist behaviour.

Anybody.

Avicenna · Answer

Of course they are sometimes, probably much more than we realize.

exitseven · Answer

@OlderandWiser How come when a white guy walks through the ghetto and get mugged it is your fault and not a hate crime

AviatorTom · Answer

Every group, regardless of color or ethnicity, is guilty of racism at some point in time. That's just the way the human psyche works.

Anonymous · Answer

Because the Left changed the definition of “racism.” Just like they changed the definitions of “man” and “woman” or “birthing persons.” They use language not as a means of communication, but of a means to cudgel people into submission.

Anonymous · Answer

As long as you are a person , any skin colors you will face racism in your life.

Bklynbadboy12 · Answer

Anybody can be a victim of racism doesn't matter what color you are. I hate it why can't we all just get alone it's really sad that we as a people can walk on the moon but can't get past race issues!!! Smh

Rebecka33 · Answer

This happened to me a lot in California but it's usually was Mexican American women doing it.

theblacksheepcat · Answer

Many of today’s people dont have the same fear that older generations had. What they did wasn’t right, but the times we are in people are filled with anger and seem to have nothing to lose. Where I live a white couple called a bunch of teenagers downtown “niggas”, and they were beat badly. What about the white lady who spit on the black young man at Popeyes and he broke her ribs? Is this the full story because no one is tolerating the same disrespect anymore.

more_than_a_guy · Answer

Wait, I am not an American. But do people actually think that whites can't experience racism?

Anonymous · Answer

I've been targeted in the past because I'm white. Fortunately I have a glock 17 always ready to role

worldscolide · Answer

It's sad isn't it? Anyone can be racist, regardless of skin color, contrary to what the worthless piece of shit left says..

notwoke · Answer

White people are never the victims of racism? - except when affirmative action occurs or if you wander into the hood

Snakeyes7 · Answer

Whether racism is institutionalized or not doesn’t change the fact that it’s racism and it makes no difference to the individual experiencing it.

Nerdvana · Answer

Yes, white people can be victims of racism and discrimination.

Luckycharms12 · Answer

Think we can all be victims of racism. But White people probably have it less to deal with. It's horrible this day and age still happening

Alex8736 · Answer

Ignorance when placing blame to any sex, race, religion etc

BillyBalls · Answer

"Black people can never be racist!!!"

Ihelppeoplebymilo · Answer

Racism is a lot more complex than this, white people have always been the oppressors and have never been oppressed because of their race. Racism is also about structural racism benefiting white people. Cases like this rarely happens so this is only an act of discrimination and not racism because these 3 black women can never be racist to a white person because they have never been above them throughout history and now.

DarkWinterNights · Answer

As long as there are two systems of justice and crimes are prosecuted equally, life will only get worse for everyone. If our economic woes continue as well we could very likely become a 3rd world country within the next decade.

driven159 · Answer

No race has cornered the market on racism every race has had it

White people are never the victims of racism?

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