Why is it now okay to be racist towards whites, but not others?

[Anonymous]

Shouldn’t it be that it’s unacceptable to be racist towards every race? I’ve noticed that some minorities are openly saying racist things about white people now and are being cheered on/applauded for it. While obviously if it’s the other way around, people get cancelled. I get that historically, white people were oppressors and did horrible things, but in my view, being racist towards them now doesn’t somehow make things right. If we want to move away from racism altogether and move towards acceptance of eachother, we should not be tolerating racism or prejudice of all races, not just cherry picked ones.

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I’ve even noticed white people saying racist things towards their own race to appease political correctness and garner respect from people. I just think racism is wrong towards every race. We are all just human beings. Also, we are not defined by what our ancestors chose to do. I am mixed with a lot of races by the way

[HighValue]

Almost every race were oppressors at one time or another if people actually learned history instead of only learning liberal propaganda taught in many schools today.

And for the "systemic racism," White and Asian people are systemically discriminated against when it comes to jobs, promotions, college entry, and college scholarships, grants, and free money. There are laws that discriminate against Whites and Asians in the USA.

by the way, anyone that claims "White isn't a race," is making an obviously racist comment.

[numscul]

yeah i agree and to top it off they claim Whites are the privileged ones... they use the blame others of what they are guilt of

and they use a manipulative lie that you can see many of their older black children try to use on all younger children
they simply state a lie or say something is opposite of the truth and when questioned they say it's because they are the only ones that can see it
The exact same way they claim Blacks live in White peoples invisible wakes leave behind and only they can detect it... Like White people are going to just agree to be manipulated like their children do to each other... Fck No... i call it out if i see it and shut it down before it starts

[NotAnActivist]

Neither is. Two or three wrongs don't make a right.

[numscul]

Because it was never about anything other than political power and becoming a dominant minority in American society and i know this as a fact because of the way most Black Americans have refused to 100% assimilate and adopt and teach the cultural melting pot ideologies that let any one of any race or color show upward mobility if the older generation demands their young understand follow and obey the best known way to succeed in American society... But that's not what we see from the majority, We see Blacks teaching their young to reject it and demand All other Americans appropriate to Black's sub-cultures ever changing and evolving ideas of what Blacks think being "Black" is supposes to be while teaching their children to hate themselves and to Hate police and to Hate White people and to Hate each other and that the only way to achieve anything should be done with bringing others down to their level of immoral and unethical thinking and acting

Blacks are the only actual "Privileged" group in America that have things that no other group is afforded like racially segregated sections of the Government that use Black ski color as a prerequisite to be a member "The Black caucus" and countless other groups and Black only organizations that give Blacks a louder voice and a national platform on which to amplify their voice
IT THE WORST KIND OF RACISM BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S JUSTIFIABLE

[KingofBladess]

You are absolutely 100% correct, and this comes from a great deal of ignorance.
The truth is, no race has a monopoly on oppression of cruelty. Every group of people have at one point in time been the oppressors, or the oppressed.
We only concentrate on specific eras to fill the need for a narrative (largely power dynamics). In doing so, we often ignore the realities of those eras.

Take Slavery in the United States.. clearly a hot topic.
However, many will ignore that it was not universal, and was outlawed from the beginning in many regions.
Also, we ignore that the United States did not have a monopoly on Slavery within its time, nor was it the first to practice it, or the last to end it.
On top of this, we tend to ignore the reality of how those particular slaves came to be (through conflicts in Africa, where African nations sold slaves to European traders).

If we taught the truth of history, then it would be more difficult to make arguments like "White people are all racist" or "Lets demand reparations for a specific group of people"
that wouldn't go well with the narrative.

[nachosaresexy]

"ignorance"

but but but not all regions. and not only america.

carry on.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Sure ill explain more in depth
1. by not all regions in the USA.
Regions like New England, and the Northwest Territory outlawed slavery from the beginning.
Slavery was not universally practiced in the nation, and was a hot topic from the very beginning.
This ultimately led to a Civil War because the Northern states had long outlawed the practice, while Southern states depended upon it for its economic success
2. In regards to not only in America was it practiced. That is a very obvious one.
The United States was not even the major benefactor of the Atlantic Slave Trade (that was Brazil).
It was not the first nation to practice it (should be very obvious)
and many nations still practiced slavery nearly 100 years after the United States outlawed it.
arguably, many nations still practice it today.

[nachosaresexy]

@kingofbladess

1. the way you spin the tale of early American history, slavery was a rough patch of weeds that mighty america eradicated, rather than the reality of an incessant part of the early American fabric that led to, as you said, THE COUNTRY GOING TO WAR AGAINST ITSELF OVER.

2. you mean white people didn't invent slavery after columbus "discovered" america? no way, dude.

of course humanity's existence is unavoidably linked with slavery, which is why these topics/"arguments" are so incredibly ignorant, to borrow your own term, in trying to conflate various parts of history, even to the point of now whitewashing it away rather than acknowledge the ongoing social and economic impacts.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Oh! wow! You are totally a fool haha simply because you were caught peddling nonsense?

You seem to not deny anything I have stated, but yet have an incessant desire to conflate and put words into my mouth? Where did I once state it wasn't a dark part of our history?
I was simply stating the fact it was not unique to the United States, not to "Whites people" in general.

It is simply a FACT that Slavery was not universally accepted or practiced in the United States, during an era when Slavery was almost a universal constant. What is unique is how the West pushed towards ending Slavery (which the United States was one of the last Western nations to succeed it), while it continued to be a universal constant throughout much of the rest of the world.

You are clearly quite historically ignorant.

[nachosaresexy]

"If we taught the truth of history, then it would be more difficult to make arguments like "White people are all racist"

No one in this topic suggested it. You brought out that lazy strawman. Then continued on with other lazy conflation.

[nachosaresexy]

@kingofbladess it's cool you've got a passion for history. try to avoid some of your own obvious blind spots.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy You also clearly didn't pay attention to what the question is here.

This is an aspect that is commonly taught in many schools throughout the United States (for example the New York educational system), and actually a doctrine enforced in many workplaces (such as Coca Cola, and Disney).

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Naturally its important to be educated.
Though accusing people of such things seems to be a bit silly.
Just because a historical fact goes against your narrative, doesn't mean you should deny it outright. Don't you think?

[nachosaresexy]

You're giving yourself props for your understanding of race history while amplifying the silly comparison to modern day "racism"?

i mentioned blind spots a second ago. how about tone deaf?

[nachosaresexy]

@kingofbladess anyway, you brought some specific ideas/history rather than "welcome to progressivez" and "i seen some minorities say some racess shiz the other day" which is commendable. just watch out for the blind spots, or you start to sound tone deaf and the bias shines through. lordy knows we've all got plenty of our own biases based on our own unique experiences.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy You mean how blaming everything on historical issues is not an acceptable position to hold for modern struggles?
Shall we ignore the success rates of the Asian community vs the White? Clearly they suffered horrible prejudice that would have set them back?

The issue is not historical prejudice (especially in an era what has seen decades of racial progress, to the point of pushing policies that actually discriminate against whites and Asians.. for example affirmative action).

The issue is Black culture
and the policies of victimization.

[nachosaresexy]

@kingofbladess blaming "everything"?

you know one of the laziest, most obvious signs of a weak argument is trying to black-and-white it.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Yet, the only one I see black/whiting this issue is you?
but of course what do white dingleberries know

[nachosaresexy]

@kingofbladess The issue is Black culture
and the policies of victimization.

but at least you said it. your bias shined through from the beginning so the fact you finally bottom-lined it at least puts it out there.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Ultimately it is true.
when you develop a culture that is common place in the United States, but especially pervasive in Black culture.

a culture of being a victim
a culture of fighting authority
a culture of anti education
a culture of anti family

How can you hope to develop a strong foundation, when you remove all of the foundational tools?
Tools that have actually be consistently removed further SINCE the era of Civil Rights?

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Not only is the culture pervasive within the black community (more so than any other community). We also CELEBRATE IT. We push it as being the ULTIMATE Black culture (when it really isn't, and its actually derived from White southerners, and in particular from those that are known as "Rednecks" and hail from certain parts of England).

[nachosaresexy]

^ by the way, didn't mean "black-and-white" in the literal sense the way you put your own stamp on it. i was pointing out the laziness of trying to paint life in broad strokes, "black" and "white", rather than recognizing nuance, challenging our own unique life experiences vs. the world/history we're part of, our own indoctrination and natural biases, etc etc etc

but your blanket statement condemning black culture leaves no doubt where you're at.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy There is actually nothing about the dominate black culture in the United States that is distinctly African. It has no real traditional roots from there, but is INSTEAD influenced massively from those White Southerners (Rednecks).
In truth, THIS is why African immigrants outpace African Americans.
Because they don't have that culture.

This is the fact.
and the Progressive movement makes it far worse by idolizing that culture, and thinking its the actual image of the Black community.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy I know what you meant by Black/White haha
I would also suggest you read the rest of what I wrote.

[nachosaresexy]

@kingofbladess your suggestion that a topic this complex is "ultimately" true just further undermines your stance / spotlights your arrogance.

no one is reading these pointless comments, where each one is burying the last from anyone's visibility anyway. try to challenge yourself with different points of view. get out of books. talk to real people... better yet, get to know real people. cool thing is life sorta forces this on all of us. the rest is up to us. good luck, homie.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy You both accept the reality of the issue being complex, but then spin a narrative that is simplistic. While at the same time you make the statement no one is reading what I am saying.

That is truly the sign of self made ignorance.

[nachosaresexy]

"the progressive movement"

you realize that's not an actual thing, yes? you allowing media cycles to create turn some arbitrary label into some actual thing that manifests in your mind, and that you then start creating "fact" based conflicts... this is crazy ish bruh.

try to unplug from that noise. experience the real world around you, balanced with your own experienced and education, then you start to get a decent lens. not really a lens tho right? more like a badass prism. none of us have a perfect prism but a prism is hella better than the stupid black-and-white lens i think you're spending too much time with.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Yes, because figures like AOC have never viewed themselves as Progressive. The same applies to Bernie Sanders?
The same applies to the Young Turks?

You act as if the movement doesn't exist
when its one of the major political movements within Congress
and has had a major influence on social changes.

[nachosaresexy]

@kingofbladess bruh how many times you think you reflexively used the term 'ignorant'? you think that bolsters or detracts from any points you're trying to make?

clear thoughts. avoid repetitive ad hominem junk that only distracts from whatever point you might be trying to make. also avoid lazy generalizations ("the progressive movement").

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy How many times are you going to ignore the issues?

[nachosaresexy]

@kingofbladess boom there ya go. AOC's stance of 'XYZ' is flawed for this reason...

vs.

"the progressive movement" blah blah blah

one approach has a chance to articulate a point that gives others somethin to chew on. the other is falling into the lazyass trap of media manipulation into over generalized buzz terms that don't actually mean anything on their own.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy On top of this, the consistent need to comment on the terms I use.
Oh no! I am using the term "ignorant" to describe some of your comments, and using it more than a few times is a sure sign I have nothing else to say (when I have said quite a bit).
If you must point the conversation into arguments about my word choice
and complete denial of movements that exist, and have entire political foundations structured around them such as the DFA which supported AOC...
or the fact that the term is used consistently BY those who advocated for it...
FOR it is the political and social position that they adhere to.

either you are in denial?
or you just dont pay much attention.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy I never stated AOCs stance was flawed because it was progressive.
I stated her state was a progressive stance.
AOC is openly progressive, and speaks about it routinely.

Yet you act as if the movement doesn't exist?

[nachosaresexy]

@kingofbladess well, not just the reflexive use of a term but also the defensive nature of the term. ends up being a double whammy against trying to make articulate points that don't come across overly defensive.

I think you're misreading my AOC comment. I'm contrasting taking an actual stance (here's something specific from [Bernie/AOC/pick your favorite lib who gets ya spun up] that I disagree with and why) instead of just yelling at the clouds about "errrbody thinks all whites are racist" or "the progressive movement" or "the libs" or the other stuff that fits into the political narrative you clearly lean towards.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Specifically the modern Progressive movement has been a major part of various political changes we see today that didn't exist only a decade or 2 ago.

For example,
perspectives on medicare for all, minimum wage increases, green energies, social justice. etc.
Some of these perspectives were not even accepted in the Democratic Party only 10 years ago (for example, Healthcare for all). However, they are becoming common place because of the influence of Progressive ideals. and their leaders.
It has changed the framework of how we speak about certain issues as well (for better or worse)
The people who advocate for it, also refer to them specifically as progressive ideals.

These are not terms I have created
or those who are against it
but merely the terminology used by those who advocate for it.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Its likely because "all whites are racist" is a policy pushed by certain political figures. It is also a narrative driven in many parts of this country. As I stated before, it existed in the educational system in certain states (like New York), but also it is enforced in employee orientations in many businesses (both private and public) such as Coca Cola.
These are not concepts I created for myself, but merely perspectives that are pushed by the most extreme elements of the Left Wing.

Sure, Progressive in 2020, is not the same thing as Progressive in 1900
That matters very little, because much of the terminology we use today is not the same as in the past.
Even many of the terms have changed.
Being Conservative or Liberal in 2020, does not mean the same thing it did only decades ago.

When I speak of these issues, we understand it through our own modern understandings of the terms.

It matters very little
because we know of which issues I am speaking about.

[KingofBladess]

@nachosaresexy Also, I find it ironic that you are telling me to be specific about my positions (which I have been), yet only minutes ago said no one was going to read any of my posts hahaha.
I have been quite concise with my own perspectives on these issues, and when you have been confused, I have gone into depth on what I mean.
Sure, confusion is an aspect of trying to explain social or political issues.
Sure, terms can be used to the strength of detriment of a position
I understand this

But it is not an argument on this topic.

[MrtoddsWildRide]

I don't think in the minds of most people it is. I think the racist voices are being amplified and the people that would otherwise speak out are being silenced out of fear of cancel culture.
When Black Panther came out it was a huge success with black audiences. I saw it in a theater that had a mostly black audience. In case you forgot or didn't see it the bad guy was Killmonger and his plan was to enslave white people and justified if with black people having been enslaved once. The black audience I was with were just as happy to see him beaten as the white people.

[Asker]

You have a fair point sir

[Biancam13]

As with most social movements throughout history, there are some people who go to the “extreme” to act in a way that appeases the new line of thinking. Also, everyone wants to be accepted and included in a group mentality, and no one wants to be called racist. It is people’s way of being on the “right side of history” in their view as it were!

[Biancam13]

And I agree we need to hold the same standards for everyone not just a handful of people! 🙏

[Cherry234]

I agree with you. I would be upset if someone discriminated against me or treated me poorly because of my race (I'm mixed, half black and half white). Being treated like crap by someone for being half white would hurt me just as much for being treated terribly for being half black. No one likes to be treated poorly because of his/her race or skin color.

[TallAnon]

Don't confuse online propaganda with the views of real humans, if someone acts racist against me or other people, white or otherwise, while I'm there, they will have a headache the next time they wake up. I'm not alone in this. Real people don't say "Ah, but he's white, so it's ok".

[Asker]

Thanks. Trust me, I’ve seen quite a few unfortunate cases. Then when I tell them to stop being racist, they call me a bigot or a “traitor” because I’m mixed. It’s messed up.

[JustiReno]

What racism are white peoples experiencing? Most racist views others hold against whites I think they are completely oblivious to so how would it affect their lives?

[Asker]

@JustiReno like I’ve had black friends see someone do something stupid or dumb, and they’ll be like “only a white person would do that.” Or calling white people “racist crackers” and other slurs

[JustiReno]

Well don’t worry if the cops show up to a gun fight the darker person getting killed. What BLM is really about is violence. I know you think black people commit more violence on white people, but this is after MLK Malcolm and Fred Hampton we’re all killed, drugs and guns poured into the black community by the CIA and not to mention slavery and the pillaging of the African continent and cold blooded murder of its inhabitants like they were some invasive species.

[Asker]

@JustiReno I don’t think they do actually. I know some people think they do though.

[JustiReno]

Statistics aren’t racist, but an interpretation can be. 75% of the worlds silver came from one mountain in Bolivia. I’m sure you’ve heard of El Dorado but what they actually found was Potosi. This changed the entire world, financed wars across the globe and may have been a major contributing factor to the fall of Ming dynasty China. I think Natives should get Oklahoma and Blacks should get Alabama, Mississippi and Georgia. Negotiating with Spain 🤮 I mean Mexicans will be tough

[Anonymous]

Yeah bigotry is bad wherever it is and we need to work against being prejudice to any race!

But honestly a lot of white people feel that when people question their privilege that it's it's racial attack, it's not.

It's the same as all the rubbish with people hating on the blm movement, you had idiots saying "all lives matter" without ever being able to comprehend that that is and was exactly their message! Difference is that white people weren't under the foot of systemic racism and weren't being shot unjustly on mass across the country.

I'm white and yet I'm sick to death of all these overly defensive people bitching that "now white people are being marginalised in there own country!"

Nope their not but equality doesn't just mean treating other races better it also means letting go of that unfair privilege you've wielded since you were born!

[RolandCuthbert]

Yawn. . . after threads claiming that George Floyd deserved what he got, after threads claiming that "Black" men are raping "White" women everywhere. After Asians being attacked and killed public by "Blacks", "Whites", Latinos, etc. for just being Asian. After removing mandates to teach American Indian history in school, you only see racism against "Whites".

That's wild.

[jshm2]

You can't be racist to Whites, kiddo.

Thats like saying you can wet water.

[Asker]

😂😂😂

[Asker]

Treat people how you would like to be treated.

[TyLeeAndPink]

Agreed, agreed 100%. The same applies to sexism too, men shouldn't be shamed for being men.

[Asker]

I agree with that. It seems like certain parts of these movements are doing the exact things they claim their oppressors are doing, just in reverse.

[JustiReno]

Have you ever heard of “free trade”? How bout the Dutch East India Company? Adam Smith wanted his hands on the East Indies ya know? I know y’all hate Muslims and despise savages with a passion but the global capitalistic system has always been nothing more than murderous pirateering

[TyLeeAndPink]

@JustiReno Shouldn't this be an opinion, not a reply?

[JustiReno]

It’s not ok to be racist towards whites this doesn’t address the question. People can be racists or “racial” and hurt you in an emotional way at the same time

[TyLeeAndPink]

@JustiReno I never said white people should be discriminated against.

[JustiReno]

my bad that first comment was for @asker

[TyLeeAndPink]

@JustiReno Cool thanks for the clarification ✌️

[JustiReno]

PS the internet will never be your “safe place” times have changed kids are using tablets we need Sesame Street to teach us about good cyber-hygiene

[TyLeeAndPink]

@JustiReno That needs funding let’s do it

[HighlyVolatile]

Because the actual racists want to subvert the system, and they've infiltrated education. They might not wear robes like the KKK. Instead, they have a Ph. D. in gender studies. That Ph. D. is their robe.

[HighlyVolatile]

Bad teachers make bad students:
https://youtu.be/bO1agIlLlhg

[JustiReno]

We should give black peoples their own country. Can’t we trade Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia for peace? Imagine if blacks had their own country in the South they’d all move there and poof no more inner city crime. I think we need to give Mexicans parts of the South West too it’s a shame Canada ain’t touching nothing tho screw them Red Coats

[ravagesavage]

BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM! WHITE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OPPRESSING PEOPLE OF MINORITY FOR TOO LONG AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE IT. IT'S NOT RACISM, IT'S REVENGE

[TallAnon]

Calm down bud, being a keyboard warrior is nice, but try to refrain from getting yourself killed by saying things like that out in the real world.

[ravagesavage]

Oh stfu, kid. You don't have a say in this at all. Go back to your klan meetings

[TallAnon]

Sure buddy. Done venting yet? Be careful out there.

[Asker]

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not!

[Asker]

If you are indeed serious: don’t you think taking revenge is petty and unconstructive, and also hypocritical?

[BrickBiggems]

Ohh-ho-HO! Your one of the fun ones. I feel like I should be wearing Kacki shorts and holding a snake stick even typing this comment! Alright, so! Do they hand out tin foil hats at blm protests or are they provided by Antifa when they hijack them?

[pixie215]

racism is never ok, to the point of me being mixed Asian hadda take my pic down from the bullying on here. in these times i expect no less then people and their comments, white, black etc. it is never ok

[Dchrls78104]

Why is it OK for people to be sexist towards men but not towards women? The reason is the same: humans are fools who have learned nothing from experience or history.

[Asker]

I agree about sexism.

[Anonymous]

You must be blind if you don't see the racist from every race on this site, including whites. And people are only cancelled if they say something about blacks. They can say about Latinos, Jews, East Asians, Indians, Arabs etc and no one will care. No one cancelled Camila Cabello for making Mexican jokes but they did for her making jokes about black people.

[Asker]

Yes everyone says racist things. However I’m saying we shouldn’t cherry pick who we can in fact be racist towards. It is all equally bad no matter what happened historically

[Rangers]

They do whatever is socially acceptable, sometimes telling on themselves by saying that Republicans are a minority and therefore their opinions don't matter...

That sure does sound a LOT like some other people in history and what they said when moral questions were brought up on the topics of slavery and civil rights🤔🤔🤔

[Subarugirl]

What kind of racist things are you talking about? Like what specifically?

[Asker]

I commented it on someone else’s answer⬇️

[Subarugirl]

You mean being called a cracker?

[Asker]

Yes and saying “only a white person would [have negative quality]

[Subarugirl]

But you’re not white, you’re mixed. I am white and while that may be derogatory, it’s not racist.

[Asker]

I am half white 😂

[Asker]

It is racist what. Racism is “prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.” It is literally saying all white people are this characteristic

[Asker]

The other definition is “the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.” Saying white people are dumber than other races is an example of this

[Subarugirl]

True, but since you are mixed you are still considered a person of color. Just as someone who is half white and half Native American is still considered Native American.

[Subarugirl]

The thing is though, is that white isn’t a race.

[Asker]

Really? I thought persons of colour were just people of single ethnic or multiethnic backgrounds that aren’t predominantly white. So would you call keanu reeves a person of colour? Since he is part Hawaiian but also white

[Subarugirl]

Actually Keanu Reeves is a quarter Chinese, and talks quite a bit about white passing privilege.

[Asker]

Yeah but I look like him but female so I don’t know if I am a person of colour

[Asker]

But anyway, I have white Latina and Asian in me so I feel like I am all these ethnicities even if they’re not very visible

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Peach it!! 💯 Agree with everything you said!!! Couldn't of said it better myself...

[Themostabsurd]

I have a feeling that's changing now that normies are starting to be inconvenienced by it all. Whereas once they could just signal their virtue by endorsing the "correct" opinions "fuck white people lol", thinking that would keep the mob from ever turning on them. Slowly they are realizing that appeasement doesn't work with these types of fanatics. If history is any guide, once they've amassed a certain amount of power, your only oprion is to kill them.

[JustiReno]

What the hell are you talking about sir?

[Anonymous]

I don't think to wrongs make a right but you answered the question yourself.

"I get that historically, white people were oppressors and did horrible things".

See where your wrong is that that (systemic) oppression perpetrated by whites is a thing of the past.

It isn't.

And even if individual white people are cool, they still benefit from a system meant to serve them.