If everyone (i mean everyone) walked around strapped with a gun would there be more deaths or fewer?

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I keep seeing the quote “armed society is a polite society” and it seems like BS.

Chazmatazz269 · Accepted Answer

Likely neither. So hotheads like me would kill more people in the heat of the moment than we are currently, given that we’re rational and honest enough with ourselves to know that and NOT carry. If you force someone who is scared of guns to carry one, they’ll likely never use it anyway and if they did they’re more likely to do more harm than good. More people who aren’t afraid of guns would be at the right place and right time to stop violent criminals. But no number of armed citizens can fix a problem that essentially boils down to mental illness. We’re still resorting to shooting people to prevent them from hurting and killing others. So maybe, the numbers are eventually offset. There’s no way to prove that either way. It’s just another silly argument that people use when they’re passionate but ignorant. Not unlike the idea of taking firearms from law abiding citizens.
But that’s just a bandaid on a deep wound. We have to address the issues of mental health awareness and treatment, and probably change the way we look at poverty based crimes. Otherwise nothing changes. Imagine you could snap your fingers and magically make all guns and ammunition disappear. Psychos will still make bombs, or buy a couple of machetes, or drive their car through a park or playground, or fly a plane into a ballpark. People forget that there were NO GUNS used in the attacks on 9/11. Still thousands of people died. If we don’t fix the real problems, these symptoms won’t go away.

zeitgeist057 · Accepted Answer

I can personally attest that I would have increased the murder rate by murdering multiple people had I a gun on me at certain points in my life. And if the person I would have murdered and/or their friends also had guns, then I may be the one who got killed rather than the killer, or maybe a mix of both where I killed a few people before I died.

But I can 100% say I wouldn't give a shit about dying and fear wouldn't have kept my hand off the trigger. It's only cowards who are afraid of death to whom this logic makes any sense, because they see the threat of death as a deterrent. But it's not for everyone, and those people will kill you or die in the right moment given the opportunity. Having the opportunity constantly present would absolutely raise the number of deaths.

Some charts about guns in America

It blow me away how many idiots actually voted "no" on this question. Or rather, it doesn't, because I understand their fear mindset and inability to see how they look like prey to an apex predator. But the simple fact that you introduce a deadly weapon to everyone and to actually think that it would cause less death is the definition of stupid. That's like saying if everyone had a pool, there would be fewer drownings.

Youryeodongsaeng · Accepted Answer

It all depends on the carrier. There are people who doesn't even need to own a military weapon, let alone be around one, and then there's the ones who are trusted with military weapons.
The thing is, we won't know who is to be trusted with a military weapon. If you know you can own a military weapon and be the responsible adult, then you don't have to worry about what others say about the whole constitutional carry law protesters.

At this point, I feel like that this whole constitutional carry thing, allowing people to own military weapons without a permit, is a waste of discussion when trying to protest against it. Like, I don't see why it's any of our business in the first place.

Wanna move to somewhere you might feel safer, try China, Japan or Korea. They have a law where citizens cannot own or purchase any military weapon, therefore, it is illegal to do so.
Watch that video of one of Japan's most respected or whatever person get assassinated during a speech. By a homemade gun. It didn't even look like a gun, nor did it sound like a gun, but it was one. Things like that are very rare.

SkyeSymes · Accepted Answer

Take a look at the difference between UK and America...

Yes we in the UK Have the odd stabbing here and there which is pretty quickly stopped by Armed police or Predestines over powering the attacker.

USA Has daily shootings, Robbery at gun point and school shootings regularly aswell as mass rampage gunmen who just let lose Predestines have no chance over powering someone was a fully automatic rifle who's been training most of they're life's on how to shoot it and load it in seconds not to mention some mag's hold 100+ bullets a time.

I would say the impact of having guns far out weight the impact of not having them and if anything causes more carnage than possible.

The quote "armed society is a polite society" is ridiculous it's like saying if you don't say please and thank you im going to shoot you lol

WhiteSteve · Answer

Probably more. I know I can’t ever have a gun because I lose my shit too easily. I can only have fistfights, I’ll take my chances with not killing someone via that method. Calm and rational WhiteSteve hates guns and is sickened by the idea of people using them. Enraged and irrational WhiteSteve would probably dump an entire magazine through your grandparents’ front windows if you pissed me off just to make a point. So needless to say, I only carry my fists on me as a matter of policy, there’s only so much damage I can likely do with them.

Bee-Hatch · Answer

More obviously.

Think of all the angry fuckwits that can't afford a gun, but would use one if they had it.
All the school bullies that are too young to get access to fire arms.
Then there's the stupid people on here that have to have crayons with the ends rounded off, it'll be self induced but there will be blood.
Then old folk who are dying painfully in hospitals, wouldn't it be tempting to just end things?

jshm2 · Answer

Don't be daft. An armed society is not a society, but a thieves den.

A trustful society doesn't need firearms to deal with trustworthy people.

America is just a third world society, with no religious or cultural heritage. Such an artificial "country" never was going to last long.

globetrotter22 · Answer

Well many years ago most people were armed in rural communities. I don’t know about cities but definitely out in farmlands for sure.

Anyway if everybody carried I can see accidental shootings being a problem. I can also see accidents where police misidentify an innocent yet armed bystander as a criminal.

However isn’t ironic that mass shooters often target “gun free” zones like schools and malls? Technically Good Samaritan Elisha Dicken was in a “gun free” zone when he was at the Indiana Mall. The mall owner isn’t going to press charges though (no sane person would).

Also all you females voting “more deaths” on this. A handgun could stop almost any would be rapist. Just saying. I wonder how many of you have ever even fired a gun in your life. You should try it and you might it’s just a tool. Not a demon possessed object.

purplepoppy · Answer

Everyman has fists and we all know some guys are quick to swing them at the smallest perceived slight. I'm not sure how giving them a gun helps. People who were better shots or more willing to kill would simply become ruder.

Daniela1982 · Answer

I can see everyone being a bit jumpy. Who would be the faster draw?

SaoirseS · Answer

Repeated discussion on this topic is utterly pointless.

DryGermanGuy · Answer

The scenario in a nutshell, as I read about this happening a while ago: Two guys got into a heated argument in a parking lot. Both guys felt „threatened“ and pulled their (legal) handguns. Both guys shot each other. Both guys died.
In pretty much any other country this would have ended with two bloody noses at worst, instead of two grieving families. But hey, land of the free, home of the brave, right? 🙄🙄

Seinna · Answer

Fewer. Those that cause problems would be swiftly dealt with and that would unburden our prisons and mental institutions as well.

Sour-rose · Answer

Eeehhhh... I wanna say more but unless the person is not sane, less deaths? How many times can you actually kill someone without regret... probably not many until someone shoots said person in the head because he wanted to be a hero.

Anonymous · Answer

hmm. well YOUR side said and continues to say that more guns = more deaths. You parroted that "college campuses would turn into the wild wild west" once they started passing laws to allow students to conceal carry on campus. But the fact is, crime/shootings/deaths on campuses that allow concealed carry IS DOWN. So I'll stick with that fact, and say that there would be less. Thank you very much.

Levin · Answer

There would be a shout out in McDonalds every time the burger came late...

qwert1234 · Answer

The trend now is - less arms, more peaceful - in general.

And no, do not talk about terrorists, gangs, cartels and such. No civilian, armed or not, will fight them. America, the most armed country of all, can't even eliminate gangs.

spartan55 · Answer

The quote you used was very applicable at one point, but now it's beyond that. I am very pro-gun, but not I am not in favor of open carry. Concealed carry? Yes.

Msputiton · Answer

It's easy to figure this out. Look at the old west

Hawner · Answer

Well, after a few days, very few would be walking around like that since the rest would be dead. So, yeah, there would be a lot more deaths.

Anonymous · Answer

Yeah, it is BS. More guns are just adding to the problem.

exitseven · Answer

I think it would be fewer in total. There would be much less mass shootings and less storekeepers being killed by criminals. If the criminals just kill each other It is no great loss.

dustybiker · Answer

I’d imagine there would be a lot more chalk outlines laying around. My aim is respectable, but I’d still prefer my broadsword.

Redstang88 · Answer

The rest of the developed world seems to do just fine without.  I’m an outspoken supporter of firearms ownership, but they stay locked up at home where they belong when not being used

SmokinAces2000 · Answer

let’s say that there is a mass shooter and everyone try’s to be a “hero” and all bystanders start letting off shots, what could possibly go wrong

zagor · Answer

More. Maybe fewer mass shootings, but shootings after a drunk disagreement in a bar or stadium would skyrocket. And since you would start assuming the other person was armed you would have to make sure you shot first...

HighValue · Answer

The areas with the strictest gun control have the most gun crimes. 62 people were just shot in Chicago. 4 died so far.

msc545 · Answer

More deaths. Accidents happen, and people lose their temper. A gun on your hip is just too convenient.

Snakeyes7 · Answer

Remain the same at worst. As soon as some wacko pulls it out to shoot someone unprovoked someone would be putting him down just as quickly. Or so I hope.

bamesjond0069 · Answer

I put more however what isn't made note of in the poll is there would be more criminals killed. Which i think is a great thing! Id like to live in a society where every car jacker, rapist, purse snatcher, home invader... meets instant justice.

notwoke · Answer

far fewer deaths from robberies and assaults. Yes, there would be an increase from instances of 2 low IQ knuckle heads getting in a fight. No one commenting here has any idea what the net result would be.

Juxtapose · Answer

Well it makes sense doesn't it? Are you really going to want to rob that house or mess with that person when you know literally everybody is armed?

Dargil · Answer

Far, far fewer deaths associated with violence.

Shamalien · Answer

An armed society IS a polite society, by necessity. If there are more deaths, it will only be amongst rapists, thieves and murderers

Cubus · Answer

Fewer. People would be scared to use them, because everyone could shot them death, when attacked.

WhiteBoyChill · Answer

Surely initially a handful of people would die. But then there would be a long peace afterwards

Keepitreal007 · Answer

I will say less random shootings because anyone can take you out before to much happens.

boobliker · Answer

to start with more but then the bad will take control and it will be ok

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

More deaths. Some people have no business being with a gun at all.

Anonymous · Answer

Why do you want to keep a woman unarmed to be attacked and killed by her rapist?

Anonymous · Answer

Like the old west I guess, probably fewer than what is happening now

Anonymous · Answer

An armed society is an emboldened society.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

A well armed society is a polite society.

TheAfrikan · Answer

More n more deaths.

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