Why does presenting valid criticisms of problems within black culture amount to racism?

[WhiteBoyChill]

Its like every time I point things out, like violent crime and single motherhood, the uncomfortable truths as you will, instead of acknowledging them, black people would rather distract from the original issue, and brand me a racist.

It’s like how are you ever suppossed to grow and develop as a person if you’re being intellectually dishonest to yourself all the time?

They’re simply unmotivated is the answer. There’s simply just a very minimalist desire in their culture.

Because the black people who want change just leave and set out elsewhere. They don’t even consider themselves a part of the culture anymore.

And if the problem ever were with Americans being racist, than African immigrants wouldn’t be doing better than most whites.

I’m just tired of hearing from them about how everything’s racist when the issue is just themselves.

[KostasKouvalis]

Me too. The Admins took down my question about Black people being unable to survive without the leadership of Whites. And that was after I was called "racist". The Admins even sent me a warning which has never happened before, and I guess asking "antagonist" questions goes against their guidelines now.

Apparently they didn't like the evidence I presented and it's a discussion they did not want to have. Black people have become a protected species, which is wrong, because things will never change for them if they refuse to have these discussions.

You basically said it yourself. They don't want to admit that as a culture and society, they have many flaws, so they would rather just play the victim and say that everyone else is the problem. And even if people are racist against them, they have no one to blame but themselves. They expect everyone to change for them, but they refuse to change themselves.

[WhiteBoyChill]

More than anything else, I think black people are just lazy. They simply don’t want to make an honest living.

[KostasKouvalis]

They ARE. I've traveled to majority black areas, so no one will tell me otherwise. You saw how triggered they got when that museum in DC made a display saying that strong work ethic are Protestant principles and Blacks lack it

[Roseboy]

initially i wouldve said

you should be allowed to respectfully point out issues

but people under this post have made great points that have changed my opinion

i say if you're in a position of political power (ALLITERATION!!!) and you can genuinely help to improve a lot of the issues then you do what you need to do

but otherwise you are not in the place to say anything as you couldn't ever fully understand it

also you are very clearly racist saying "I just think black people are lazy", that is racist

[HateyouxD]

Who are you to speak on black issues... lol you've never set foot in a black man's shoes. Why stay in a place that's not bettering you. I would leave too. Blacks dont lie to themselves. We've been set up for failure in America. Slavery, ghettos, banks NEVER giving us loans. I'll admit we can or may be uneducated on how to be successful. When whites look at us they see only entertainers. I agree there needs to be more black doctors. Lawyers etc. But how can we in an environment ment to break us down everytime we stand up and dont downplay what I just said because it's TRUE. Now I don't know why people call you a racist I haven't seen what else you post but I'll end it here on this note

[WhiteBoyChill]

Sure you’ve been set up for failure, but that doesn’t mean you have to accept failure. Which is what most of y’all still do.

Also “in an environment meant to break us down everytime we stand up”.

Not sure what you’re eluding to. If black people have the skills required they are hired.

I thought we had affirmative action?

[HateyouxD]

You seem dense...
Black people in the 1970s would go for bank loans to build their businesses up. Or to buy homes. They mostly got rejected.
Standing up for our rights. Martin Luther king jr. How much hate did we get back then AND still today?
"If black people have the skills required they get hired"
You are literally a joke if you believe that. Why do so many white people steal from blacks. From music to ideas. To our humanity. White women are THE highest leading race of abortions. Yet they blame the black woman. lol that's only why they ban abortions is because the white race is depleting... affirmative action is bs. Agencies and companies still judge and discriminate. There have been studies and tests on this. Not too sure about recently or in a year or two if companies have been caught but y'all are really afraid of what we can do. Can you imagine the things black people have invented and how it helped humanity? Not down playing whites but y'all dont give us a chance and think we are a dumb race yet white are culture vultures. Or they rock with us been when times get really hard they dont stand up for us. They want to steal our lips ( injections), melanin (tanning) hips, thighs and butts and procreate with our men but won't fight the injustices, won't get down to the problem. Won't help us come & stay out of poverty. Lol like I can go on for days.

[KostasKouvalis]

"Who are you to speak on black issues..."
Aha, so you're against Whites supporting Black Lives Matter?

And what about Blacks in Africa and the Caribbean.
This guy told you good, "Just because you were set up for failure, doesn't mean you have to accept it."
I saw an Anthony Bourdain segment with a young Black guy in Trinidad, and the Black guy straight up told him, "If someone has something for too long, I'll take it from them, because I also deserve a peace of it." What kind of mindset is this?

I was in Curaçao and our Dutch tour guide straight up said, every racial group has an economic niche, but the Blacks on the island are lazy, and you can't build a country on that.

On Grenada same thing. A colored guy told us, they want hotels, but want someone else to come build them for them.

Tell me why every Black society collapsed after the White colonists left?
Tell me, why are the most famous and successful Africans either Whites or Arabs?
Elon Musk is more famous than Mandella right now. The few famous Black Africans are mostly war lords like Koni and Idi Amin. What kind of example is this setting? It's not our fault, it's YOUR fault. Look what happened to Haiti and South Africa, yet look at the colonies in the Caribbean. You people don't know how to survive or run a functioning society without White people holding your hand. You can call me "racist" all you want, but the data doesn't lie.
You even admitted yourself it's YOUR job to make yourselves become more than just entertainers and athletes.

[KostasKouvalis]

My Native American friend said it good, every other racial group has adapted to at least some aspects of Western society except Black people. They'd rather let their children starve then let someone else rule over them. They've basically swapped White oppressors for Black ones. But look how well off the colonies are. Slavery and institutional racism are over, so why are you so scared to let White people rule over you?
You either need to submit to the notion that you are helpless without us, or show some determination to better yourselves, otherwise things will never change for you.

[HateyouxD]

@KostasKouvalis we weren't talking about carribeans... we were speaking only in america

[HateyouxD]

And I'm not against whites speaking up for us. But it's his delivery... its off

[KostasKouvalis]

Blacks everywhere are the same

[HateyouxD]

@KostasKouvalis no they are not

[KostasKouvalis]

I have evidence that suggests otherwise, but okay

[WhiteBoyChill]

“How much hate did we get back then AND still today?”

Well what I can tell you is that back then blacks were being lynched. And they were also being segregated and told where they could and could not go.

So why the hell are you trying to make a false equivalency?

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KostasKouvalis South Africa and Zimbabwe especially. I mean black people had those countries handed to them on a gold plate, yet still managed to fck everything up.

Its like everything they touch, they make worse

[WhiteBoyChill]

“Can you imagine the things black people have invented and how it helped humanity?”

I can’t think of any. LMFAK

[KostasKouvalis]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. These people are incapable of leading a functioning society. The evidence doesn't lie.
Say what you want about the Appartheid government, but at least they modernized the country. Blacks don't seem to have that same priority.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KostasKouvalis South Africa is such a backwards shithole nowadays

[KostasKouvalis]

Actually most of the White controlled areas are still fine. Western Cape is the only province that has a White government, and it's the most developed. But unfortunately the ANC still has too much power and influence there, so there is only so much they can do

[WhiteBoyChill]

@KostasKouvalis I just meant like in terms of crime around the country. They’ve got insane stats. Something like 25% of all women there get r*ped at some point in their life

[KostasKouvalis]

Yeah, and who's committing them? BLACKS

[purplepoppy]

But why do you need to criticise? What are you hoping to gain from constantly pointing out problems? Are you trying to get help for them or promote discrimination and hatred against them?

[WhiteBoyChill]

The reason I need to criticize is because black people (in regards to crime especially) create issues for the rest of us.

Did you know if not for black people, our crime rate would be similar to Belgium?

[WhiteBoyChill]

I’m hoping to incite change is all. To call attention to an issue

[WhiteBoyChill]

But most black people don’t like being told “its about time you guys get your shit together, we’ve had it with you guys”

[Anonymous]

They blame Whitey for everything. The only thing worse are the sniveling white liberals who are eaten up with white guilt and run about telling everyone they should be ashamed of themselves for being white. Fuck. You.

[MrTaboo]

Because "racism" is a fall back to what it is they don't like to hear.

[WhiteBoyChill]

That’s what I’ve always figured. These people are unwilling to face reality because it offends them

[jshm2]

Because there are no "valid" criticisms with Black culture which are linked to race more than circumstances.

Most bigots who try it tend to get found out pretty quick.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Bud I know plenty of poor whites who are STILL making better decisions for themselves than poor blacks.

Poverty doesn’t mean shit. Culture is everything.

[007kingifrit]

you always ask the wrong questions, you ask "why am i a bad person" instead of "why should i care about their definitions of right and wrong"

stop trying to be apart of a culture that doesn't want you

[SiberFox]

"Stop trying to be apart of a culture that doesn't want you"
Man if only 88% of the world understood this

[WhiteBoyChill]

@007kingifrit Bud. I can tell you firsthand that I care for neither white liberals nor n*ggers

[007kingifrit]

then why did you make this post

[WhiteBoyChill]

Because I’m trying to understand how they think. It baffles me

[007kingifrit]

oh that's an easier questiont o answer. they get a sense of moral superiority calling other people bad... that's it. that's the extent of what you need to know about them

calling you names gives them social power

[WhiteBoyChill]

I see. So deep down they feel really insecure and weak