Is it possible that some “white knights” just got lucky with women earlier in their lives and never had to deal with getting burned?

[Anonymous]

In general I believe modern white knights are special kinds of sociopaths. They know they are dishing out cheap shots when they defend women who are unfairly bashing men. They also know the guys they are throwing under the bus are in reality getting treated extremely unfairly. They don’t care though. They know selling themselves short to get positive female attention and an improved chance of getting laid is worth it vía their twisted rationale.

With that said there are some guys who are just plain lucky. They managed to find decent women in their lives. Or they come from a place where male bashing isn’t so prevalent. Some are naturally sociopaths manwhores who know how to lie and manipulate. It works for them so they get their needs taken care of.

These guys have limited experience of being an innocent man who has gotten badly burned for doing what women “say” they want. So it makes sense they have different attitudes towards women in general. They had far fewer negative experiences with the opposite gender.

I have a former church pastor who was like that. He met his beautiful future wife (who has a good personality) his first year in college. He grew up in a conservative area where women are more respectful to men.

I remember his sermons being sometimes being very supportive and defensive to women. How preached that men need to be chivalrous. He never criticized modern women in any of his sermons.

In an ideal world he would be correct. But he never had to experience the insane misandry of modern women. I also think older generations of men often have similar outlooks. It wasn’t until very recently (e. g. Christi Ford and Brett Kavanaugh metoo era) that they have finally taken notice of insidious modern feminism truly is.

Anyway I don’t think those guys are the type of “white knights” that modern men are used to dealing with. They just haven’t been through the chainsaws like other guys have in our modern culture.

[Anonymous]

This is very true. The truly marriage women are typically all married off by 25. This is why I'll tell any guy that if he has not found the woman to marry by 25 to take his time. Because the rest of the lot really not about partnerships. The under 25 will sacrifice for the good of you two the rest WILL NOT.

[Jesuswasahue]

Usually people who use terms like “white knight” and actually think it means anything are assholes who need to work on themselves but refus to look inward, only want to blame women and other men… pathetic.

[Asker]

Men should always strive to improve themselves. But let me give you “white knight” example:

A socially awkward and/or unattractive man gathers his courage and approached a woman. He’s polite but trying to be assertive. The girl feels uncomfortable and turns him down. She then then runs over to her friends and complains what a “creep” the unattractive yet polite man did.

The white knight is one of “her friends” and he saw and heard the entire ordeal. He knows the girl feels uncomfortable but he also knows the other guy did nothing wrong. So what does he do? He joins in with bashing the guy for being a creep when he really isn’t. He does that to impress the girls and too look like an “ally”. The right thing is to point out that the girl is judging the other guy unfairly. But the white knight instead contributed and supports that crap.

[Jesuswasahue]

The guy was a creep, she was uncomfortable… and he tries to be “assertive?” That’s creepy… sounds like you are only looking at it from one perspective, as the creepy guy… probably because you sympathise with him, try some empathy for others. White knight is being a good friend, and the girl was uncomfortable… and you are an unaware jerk that goes hating women and men who they rely on. Being polite is necessary but not sufficient…

[Jesuswasahue]

What I think is the creep goes back to his friends and calls her a butch and all his loser friends join in calling her a bitch, when she was just uncomfortable a stranger tried to be “assertive” with her, ew.

[Asker]

@jesuswasahue if she was rude to him then it’s human nature for anyone to be upset. But really do “collectively” start calling a woman names in that scenario? Vice versa is much more common in my experience.

Any way not to get off topic. But the bottom line is that some guys are luckier than others. Their geographical location, culture, family upbringing, etc can play into their odds. If they do well then great I’m happy for them. More power to them.

But I can recall the few times I’ve been in a long term relationships. My brain chemistry started changing. I was getting my physical needs “met”. I was getting more respect among my peers and family for being a normal and capable guy. I started forgetting how horrible the dating arena can be. And of course other women who saw that I was taken were suddenly more “friendly”. Taken me are more attractive to women when all else is equal. So they were treating me better despite there being no change in my habits and personality (for better or worse). So during those periods I forgot how sh*tty some women could be.

That’s what I think how some married and/or guys in long term relationships feel. They haven’t experienced negative behavior from women in dating for a long time (or ever). So I can see them being defending women when men are angry hence a “white knight”.

[Juan4574]

The woman in her youth spends her time fornicating with attractive and dominant men, and when she is around 30 years old she looks for a submissive and foolish man to marry, that is where the white knight has his opportunity.

[OddBeMe]

No we just didn't bitch about it. And got back on the horse.

[anylolone]

I know a lot of those, and no.

[In_Trance]

yes it is