How's it possible, when Trump doesn't represent any of the good Christian values?

How's it possible, when Trump doesn't represent any of the good Christian values?

From what I understand, a large part of Christianity is internal, and weathering the external storms while keeping your faith intact internally. Picking the lesser of two evils to lead your community is arguably community service. And if the clown show that we are experiencing now is your stated preference in national leadership just to stay politically correct, your readiness to be a voting member of society is highly suspect. Tribal loyalty is not a legitimate basis upon which to govern a country, a favorable outcome for Americans, at least if you are a US citizen eligible to legally vote in US elections Trump is eligible to run in, is.
I’m not a Christian but I gave a Christian family.
So I’m a monarchist authoritarian, that makes me the natural enemy of any true democracy does it not? With that said I still don’t want to burn down the White House and tear apart this democratic farce.
You don’t need to believe in the goodness of someone’s heart to believe they’d make a good president. You just need to believe in their competency in the role and their self gain from doing a good job.
Also I’ve seen dramatically different interpretations of the Bible so you might be seeing blue where others see green when it’s actually red if that makes sense.
I'm not religous but even I know supporting Trump is more Christian than supporting the racist Biden. Who supports KKK and is the reason black children are sentenced as adults in prison.
isn't Christiany about being a good person? I dont think Biden who support KKK is a better option than Trump as a Christian then.
The lily white movement started in 1915 by guess who REPUBLICANS and it was similar to the KKK. Racism is not a left or right issue, and it is ignorant to say that. If Biden really did support the KKK then why did over 80% of Black people vote for him?
This is for sage2021 who can’t accept any information that might ruin her preconceived narrative. Im sorry you’re so closed minded, but maybe it will help someone else actually know the man they support.
Unlike you, of course.
I won't block you because I like dark chocolate babes , but Trump is allowed to change his mind. Have you changed your mind? I was for abortion and death penalty , but gained wisdom as I aged and now am not for them. Why is it they changed their minds if Democrats and liberals , but he lied if Conservative or Republican?
This was sages reply after she blocked you " The Washington Post lies all the time! It's not the bible"
this is true
@888theGreat so there's video evidence of him saying it, and you still don't believe it? Lol
read what I said dummy , you don;t read before you smart off
@888theGreat
I disagree with you on almost every front, but I do have respect for the fact that you never delete or block those who disagree with you.
At least you’re not a pussy like that.
That being said, the comment I was addressing wasn’t arguing that Trump changed his mind. The comment claimed he was always pro-life, which is clearly false. It seems sage2021 can’t compute anything that isn’t consistent with what she already thinks, and she’ll block anybody who tells her otherwise.
It’s fucking weak, and I just don’t understand who people post anything online when they get so offended if someone says something different.
You think that shit deserve defending?
C’mon now 888
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Of course. The man doesn't even belong in the same GALAXY as humility, but beyond that? For all his moral failings, he's *still the best politician we've GOT*. It's a very sad comment on the state of things, but it's true. If you don't count Clinton's last six days, he's the only President we've had this century who shouldn't be put up against a wall and shot for treason.
It also REALLY undercuts your point when you talk about "Christian values" and put draft dodging as VIOLATING them; Christianity is NOT supportive of violence OR slavery, and conscription is BOTH.
Trump has always protected the unborn! Where as Joey B. promotes the killing of innocent babies!
The question should be: how can you give support to a baby killer that professes he is Catholic? Catholic's consider it a sin, which it is. But Joey B ignores being Catholic just to win votes.
overturning Roe v Wade has already killed babies and forced women to carry a dead fetus to term. Just because you're too ignorant about pregnancy doesn't give you the right to tell people how to live
@do you personally know these women that carry around dead fetuses in them? And what do you know about pregnancy - you will never experience it yourself! I have a child, so I do know more than you do about pregnancy.
Come back here after you get pregnant yourself and THEN we will have a real conversation.
you blocked someone for posting proof that Donald is pro-choice, so you're obviously living in a fantasy world
There is a video of it.
It’s posted here
no Trump was for choice before he changed and had grandkids
He was pro choice , then changed his outlook. Grand Children will do that.
Christians are too participate in Government. We do the best we can. Not supporting Abortionist and. killing of babies is high on list. When the Catholic Church disowned Biden for his stance on subject then there was on choice which is Trump..
You support a leader who will be in jail soon?
If you're a true Christian, why would you support someone facing so many criminal charges, and will be in jail soon?
Yes, for a very simple reason. Even though I have never voted for a major party candidates for POTUS, at least 95% of Americans see elections as a dichotomous choice between a Democrat and a Republican. To American Christians, abortion is a, maybe THE, major issue that the government deals with. Trump appointed three justices who voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. Biden refuses to say that he would oppose an abortion the day before birth. For those who believe abortion is murder, the question answers itself.
Nobody expects a politician to be Mother Teresa, and I sure don't see any of the Democrats being acceptable to "proper Christians".
Matter of fact, Democratic politicians are all wealthy thieves and grifters. How can any ordinary person support them at all?
An election for president was never about electing the most Christian candidate so not sure how it matters. Although if we went in that direction, then Trump would not be president, but neither would 99.9999% of the liberal candidates I've ever heard of.
what exactly are those?
Jesus of Nazareth gave good instruction to people, but didn't forcibly stop anyone from throwing their babies to the dogs. There's a lot of mind control in all of this... what people believe, and it's relative to the other side.
So yes...

this is sacrilegious. But yet - they rather go to a Trump Rally on a Sunday than go to church...
I asked this same kinda question about 3 weeks ago and I would say no.
You can vote for whatever political party you desire but to vote for a man like Trump to lead you and a nation who is twice divorced, serious adulterer, liar, super arrogant, doesn't believe he should ask God for forgiveness, disgusting filthy mouth etc.
A man like that should be revolting to any born again true Christian.
Absofuckinglutely not, but let these hypocritical fucks keep thinking they can be.
Nope. In my eyes, you can't claim to support God and godly values, and a guy who's less godly than I am, which is exceedingly sad.
Well think of this. The head of the church of England & Scotland and the Anglican Church which has a 110 million members globally is a well known divorcee &adulterer and is married to an adulterer and divorcee.
And Jesus married a former prostitute. I ain’t dissin Jesus on the contrary you gotta respect a man who can love a woman with that track record.
@crossdressingrihno did he marry ar all? If he did marry was Mary magdalene even a prostitute or somebody downgraded by the Roman Catholic Church because they wanted women to play a less prominent role in the Christian church?
Former prostitute. She was forgiven for her sins and married Jesus Christ.
By the way the moral of that story was about forgiveness and redemption.
@crossdressingrihno that was one story and there are many Marys in the bible
I suppose it's possible, but a Christian would have to be very forgiving of Trump. He's probably broken every one of the 10 Commandments, and continues to do so. Maybe they support him because of a particular position on something.
No. Hence why the cult of Trump is actually antichristian masquerading, as pro-Christian
As a Catholic (which I'm not), I see an option:
See a priest on a daily basis and ask for absolution :D
People who think "yes" are delusional, plain and simple. Trump exemplifies about as much "Christian values" as Lucifer.
only of they have a lot of spare time to confess their sins each week and clear their consciences.
Trump doesn't represent any of the good Christian values?
Nonsense. I know he has some negatives but many Christian values.
If you're going to vote solely off of a strict interpretation of biblical values, expect to never cast a vote your entire life.
Not saying its the same thing but KKK members and Christopher Columbus’s crew were “devout” christians. Enough said
I don’t believe you could follow what Jesus said and be a Trump supporter
Even the christian churches doesn't represent any of the good christian values, so support whoever you want.
Not at all
The only way to be a true christian and be a trump supporter, is if you are everything he's not
Of course, but it is NOT possible to vote democrat in modern society and be a Christian (or a good person at all).
I'm not a Republican, Christian, or MAGA hatter, and even I think this question is retarded.
You are not asking a question. You are making a statement and daring anyone to disagree wth you because you believe that you can't possibly be wrong. That is called arrogance.
Yes, donald loves to kill babies just as much as the christian god
None of the candidates represent good Christian values.
What's are good christian values ma'am?
Just be yourself! I'd like to see Trump back in office and I don't give a shit about christianity. Religion for that matter either. It is possible be what you speak amiss the backlash that may follow.
If you think of Christians as venal hate filled racist bigots that love money lying and hypocrisy, of course it's possible.
There's no hate quite like Christian love. It's unique.
Why are people STILL hung up on Trump?
He's been out of the office for almost two years.
BUT - apparently, he still lives rent-free in so many feeble minds.
If he's running against Jesus, you have a really, really good point. But if he's running against a dementia patient, not so much.
Is it being a proper Christian to exclude over half the population of a county?
Yes.
Is it possible for people such as yourself to talk about something else?
Nope.
If Christianity is a cult then Trump is your cult leader. If Christianity is a religion then God is the leader.
You say that as though you believe that Christians are good people but that is not supported by evidence.
The Bible is full of stories of God using flawed men to do His work. So as long as Trump is doing His work, a Christian can support Trump.
It's impossible le to be Christian and Democrate today
Now now your god has killed plenty of people too and got a girl pregnant when she was married
Trump never Banned Abortions
Unlike Joey who Made it a crime and anybody who Does a abortion is considered a Criminal.
It’s a Fetus not Murder.
The Supreme Court*
Ah yes, the modern "christian values" aka being a fucking doormat that accept any kind of shit and apologize for not taking more.
Biblically Christians are supposed to stay politically neutral
Not if you say you value christianity in your politics.
Well it like are you black or white no changing anything
Impossible. Trump supporters support evil.
Moving the capitol of Israel to Jerusalem. Whether that was right or wrong is a different issue.
Most pro religion President ever.
Trump , we know, exists! Christinaity, we do NOT know
Christianity = Normal Christian ;
Trump + Christianity = terrorist ;
Jesus is a Trump supporter
What’s a trump supporter?
Reported for trolling and spamming
That’s not an answer to my question
How can anyone not know what a Trump supporter is. Are you sure you aren't trolling?
No I’m not trolling. What I’ve heard are several answers to what a trump supporter is so wanted to understand what you mean by that label. If you have only heard one definition please let me know or describe a TS
Someone who supports Donald Trump. Is it really hard to understand?
Let me give you an example of what I mean. All of these have been what some would say is a trump supporter. So let me know which ones belong in your definition of a TS:
A. TS is a crazy person who riots at the capital and wants to overthrow democracy
B. TS is a Republican
C. TS is someone who voted for Trump in an election
D. TS is someone who is paid by Trump for his political objectives
E. TS is a racist, extreme right winged person who doesn’t follow the science and believes Trump is their leader. Aka a cultist
F. TS is anyone not voting as a liberal
A, D, E definitely fall under a Trump supporter.
Owning a Maga hat, flag, bumper sticker Also qualifies as one.
Thank you for clarifying your definition. So now I can properly answer your question:
No. An actual Christian who keeps Jesus in their heart and worships Holy God isn’t part of a cult.
Having a MAGA hat also doesn’t mean someone is part of a cult either.
Also am curious why you would ask about someone who is an extremist and in a group of maybe 10,000 people nation wide when there are millions of citizens here in the USA so for you a TS is less than 1% of the population
The majority of Trump supporters are extremists. Certainly a lot higher than 1% . And just look at the views shared on this site
Yes I would agree that people in a cult are extremists. But no it’s much less than 1%. Most of the population ( ~ 90% ) are not part of cults and live their daily lives trying to get by. They aren’t into extreme views and they are the majority
Lol it's a lot more than 1%. The majority believe the election was stolen, January 6 was a peaceful protest etc. I would estimate 70-95% have extreme views
No, 315 million people do not believe the election was stolen. That is incorrect
The majority if Trump voters certainly do. There have been plenty if studies about this
We aren’t discussing trump voters. That was group ‘C’ I described and you didn’t include them in your definition
I'll add another category to avoid confusion.
F- They believe the election was stolen, January 6th was a peaceful protest
For me those are the extremists in group A.
Thanks for the chat. Did I fully answer your question?
Nope, not really you seem to think only 1% are "Ts"
Thank God we live in a country where we can have freedom of speech and can be peaceful with others who don’t agree with us. You and I don’t agree but we can still be supportive of the USA and our families. Peace bro. I’m done here
You still think only 1% of trump supporters supporters the January Six coup?
you can be all sorts of things nowadays
Aren't most of them?
Neither does biden
Yes. I am living proof after all
Nope.
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