There seems to be some confusion over which major US political party is actually the racist one?

[Sixgunsound]

I think it’s pretty safe to take a major political parties officials at face value when they make public relations statements, as far as those statements representing the will of the party leadership. The number two ranked person in that party which frequently accuses individuals within or the entire opposite party at large of being racist, just went on the record establishing racial requirements for public assistance in times of disaster. Someone make it make sense how that doesn’t demonstrate that party overt racism through officially stated public policy?

As always, personal attacks and trolls will be coming down, let’s have a clean discussion about the issues not each other, good luck!

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There seems to be a need for some further clarification: if Trump went on national TV and said that Black people were going to the back of the bus for assistance during natural disasters, would that be racist? Can one track indoctrinated minds possibly understand how things can still be racist if someone besides Trump said it?

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Does party leadership speak for their party or don’t they?

[sage2021]

Geez, just last week the Democrats were calling diesel trucks "racists". Everything and any thing or person is racist. It's so out of hand that it just rolls off of people anymore.

Since the Democrats say racist things themselves all of the time, then they are the racist one's here.

And since they love to cancel people, history and so on I hereby cancel the word racist!!!

Gee, what can we replace the word racist with since they change words (pronouns included) to another word all the time?

Can you think of one?

Sorry I didn't answer your question the right way but I needed to vent about this!

[Sixgunsound]

There only being one correct answer to a question is leftist thinking. If that’s how you feel and that’s your answer so be it.

[sage2021]

Thank you for giving me the Most Helpful Girl 🌹

[NathanDavis]

the mistake is to think that parties are racist...

or that just one party would be racist but not the other...

some people are racist... and that is it, they can belong to either side or no side and that does not represent either party as a whole

and then you have other people that likes to simply think that anything that is racial or regarding race... is going to be racist by nature or implication, and very often that's just not the case at all

[Sixgunsound]

If the top two people in any organization whether it’s a baseball team or political party or anything else go on public record making a lot of racist comments, do they or don’t they as the leaders represent the will and intention of the party? After all, they are in control of the direction it goes.

[NathanDavis]

no, they do not...

best example of that are as you said... sports teams

a lot of owners and managers from some clubs have said very stupid things, some of them racist in nature

and no, that does not make the entire club, nor their team or organization... or the fans racist in nature, nor in principle nor by definition, not by association nor by proxy

that is just two people saying racist stuff, or racial-related things that seem racist to some

and to repeat and insist on the core of the issue here

not every thing that is racial or regarding race, not all of it has to be racist

[Sixgunsound]

Let’s go back to the original statement then. If there are racial prerequisites for receiving tax funded government services, that to me shows preference for a particular race i. e. racism. Why are all Trump supporters racist then?

[NathanDavis]

preference for a race is not exactly racism... and not exactly discrimination out of disdain for other races, that is not always the case

certain situations can be considered as an aid towards minorities, so yes... that is just a target for minorities to be addressed but is not racist in nature

are all Trump supporters racist no? but those KKK members and all the neo-nazi that support Trump they are all racist yes, but they are not racists for supporting Trump, they were racist before that as they labeled themselves as that... racist and ultra nationalist people and other kind of BS as well

having a preference to date a certain race for example... that does not make you automatically racist, it is just a preference...

[Sixgunsound]

Does a party have a chain of command? Does the greater authority concentrated near and at the top give those whose hands said authority is concentrated in greater ability to control the direction the party moves in?

You do know that the organizations you named would be more closely aligned with the Democrat party in the US, right? the KKK was founded by the Democrat party as the white supremacist domestic terrorist response to Republicans taking their slaves away.

At its founding, and for its entire short lived duration, the Nazi party self identified as national socialists, which is in the US at the present moment is more closely descriptive of the Democrat party. The German national socialist party even had their own Antifa, with eerily similar logos, slogans, and tactics.

[NathanDavis]

on your first paragraph... no

political parties do have figures of organization yes, but holding power is a different thing and certainly not a ruling authority... when Paul Ryan was the leader of the HoR, and that was the only or main influence the Republicans had, McConnel was actually pulling the influence... who would you say was the true "leader" or "image" of none of them could get their way easily, and then who actually took "control" over the party Trump did... and who was on Trump's side? all the big donors were, then the Republican had align with Trump because of that money. And once Trump had that influence and authority, was he able to do all he wanted with the Party? no... he did not get his way either, so no... when there is an actual chain of command, orders are followed and that is it... but that is not how political parties work, they are much more complicated in the inside.

on your second paragraph... also no

just because the KKK was founded ages ago by a democrat that does not mean the democrats are the KKK... and that does not mean the KKK votes democratic today, and I really do not see how you cannot accept that the modern KKK of today has declared itself in support and voting for Trump and nobody else

[NathanDavis]

now... if you want to grasp at hints of the past... remember that once, there were Nazi loyalists in American who declared themselves as "friends of Hitler" and supporters of the Third Reich, and they were the ones marching on the streets of NY chanting about "America First" and all kinds of propaganda against the Jewish people as well as going against communism...

so you tell me who are the ones that say the same things today?

who do you see today screaming America First? some republicans...

who do you see today spewing anti-Jewish propaganda? some republicans

who do you see today ranting about "communists are taking over America"? some republicans

now, am I trying to say the whole Republican Party is like this? no, I am not... just some Republicans who do exactly that

[Cubus]

Well, from what I know the current president of United States has said that "I am afraid that my children would grew up in a racial jungle" and his wife compared latinos to tacos, so it's pretty indicative.

[Sixgunsound]

They sent their kids to private schools to save them from that racial jungle, and the son that lived refuses to grow up. He did hook up with his dead brother’s wife though.

[joeldalton]

I’m not confused. The party that screams ‘racist’ the loudest is the racist one. The same party that started the klan.

[coverboyoutlawbrady]

Like you'd ever date a black lad, Danielle. Now put on your white sheet and hood.

[Bratsondanielle]

Libs are racist. Period

[BarryLiverstone]

Nope

[BarryLiverstone]

Neither party is racist

[BarryLiverstone]

Regarding leadership, who is the leader rn?

[Sixgunsound]

A guy who didn’t want his kids growing up in a racial jungle.

[BarryLiverstone]

What’s his name?

[Sixgunsound]

A rich privileged white man who appointed himself the arbiter of blackness.

[BarryLiverstone]

You can’t answer a simple question

[Sixgunsound]

A guy who publicly stated that his running mate was the first well spoken black person in history.

[Sixgunsound]

I can go on, but I hope by now you get the picture.

[BarryLiverstone]

Nope, asked for his name and you didn’t say it

[Sixgunsound]

You already know the figurehead I’m describing I’m not sure what your angle is? In the interest of fairness you are correct that nobody knows who is actually pulling the strings.

[BarryLiverstone]

Mitch McConnell is the United States Senate Republican Leader. Joe Biden is the potus. Those are the only two leaders I am aware of

[Sixgunsound]

Even if we let it slide that the number one and number two are racist AF, the rest of the party leadership in control of messaging and spin and public relations continue to allow their racism to be aired without clarification or retraction. it to be aired.

[Sixgunsound]

Which would do a reasonable person demonstrate agreement.

[BarryLiverstone]

Neither party is racist. You didn’t answer the name of the leader even after I told you their names. Goodbye

[Sixgunsound]

Have a good night.

[Calenderagressive]

They're all racist...

[jimmy2]

When prez biden call a war on Magas or his racist