Why do we have to wait until December to find out who wins the georgia runoff?

[Anonymous]

[AviatorTom]

Like most states, Georgia requires that a candidate must receive a majority of the votes cast in order to win. The libertarian candidate received about 2% of the vote, and Dem and Rep candidates each received about 49% of the vote, so no one won. A runoff of only the top two vote getters must then be held, in which one of them must get a majority... simple math. By law, that runoff election is held 4 weeks after election day. It used to be 9 weeks and was recently changed. So, there will be a runoff election on 6 December 2022 to decide the winner.

[exitseven]

The real question is how long will it take to count the ballots?

[loveslongnails]

@exitseven That will depend on the number of absentee ballots. The precinct votes should be done by the next morning. If the number of absentee ballots outstanding won't change the outcome, they will likely call a winner the next day.

[exitseven]

@loveslongnails How come they always seem to find enough mail in ballots that vote Democrat to change the results?

[loveslongnails]

@exitseven You don't even REALIZE how you spread misinformation, do you?
"ALWAYS" find enough? ALWAYS? You're talking about Georgia, right?
Why can't you just do a little research and actually get some facts? Tell me why? Just too lazy? Ignorant? I'll do your homework for you:

* From 1871 to 2003, Georgia had a Democratic governor. There were NO close races till 1994.
* From 1950 to 1962, the Democratic ran unopposed!
* The closest race the Republicans lost was in 1994, by 2.4% Absentee ballots played NO part in that race at the end
* In 2002 Georgians elected a Republican Governor and have had one ever since.

As for PRESIDENTIAL voting, the ONLY race in Georgia EVER, that's right EVER, decided by less than 2% points was the 2020 Biden-Trump election (0.5 % pts) and the two Clinton elections in 1992 and 1996. Clinton won in '92 by.59% pts and he lost to Bob Dole in '96 by 1.17% pts., so let's call that a wash. At NO other time has absentee voting count changed ANY election in Georgia!
Dude.

1. 3 million absentee ballots were counted in the 2020 Georgia Presidential election, a great many from the heavily Democratic Atlanta area and Fulton County. The same thing happened in Nevada in Clark County, and in Pennsylvania, and in Arizona. The heavy Democrat counties were last and there were many absentee ballots which could NOT, by law, be counted ahead of time.

You're still parroting the same shit and lies that Trump did. When are you going to stop and look up some facts? Pretty soon it will be you, him and the Pillow Guy left, and a few other schmucks on here.

[exitseven]

The whole system needs to be looked at. It is not secure and it is the reason that a majority no longer has faith in it. The premise of One Person, One Vote cannot be verified with a system that allows mail in ballots or no voter ID. When one side does not allow for purging of the voter rolls to eliminate people that are dead or no longer living in the district it make people distrustful. Having voting machines that do not function and cannot verify which votes were counted and which were not or having districts that have more ballots than they have registered voters just adds fuel to the fire. When one side says that requiring voter ID is racist and tightening up voter laws is voter suppression The truth is that nobody really knows if Biden stole the election or not. It is not enough that it cannot be proven it was stolen. The questions everyone has about the election were not investigated to anyone's satisfaction and if nobody has any trust in the election soon they will have no trust in the government as a whole and our democracy will eventually fall apart.

[Bratsondanielle]

@exitseven well you know better than most, and you and I have talked extensively about this, that the democrats don't want voter ID etc if that happened they'd never win. They say (of course) that it's racist (libtards apparently believe colored people are too dumb to get a photo ID)

That leaves the question: how do blacks buy beer or cigarettes or drive a car?

But of course the states that take a month to count a few ballots are used to swing a close election to a blue win. Anyone with half a brain can see this.

Our election system is something that is ridiculed and laughed at in every other western country. As you know I have friends from around the world and they all say the same

[loveslongnails]

@exitseven Again, you speak without knowing what you're talking about. Let's debunk your drivel:
" The whole system needs to be looked at. It is not secure " - This is your opinion, not basis in fact in Georgia.
" and it is the reason that a majority no longer has faith in it." That is hardly the reason. The BIGGER reason is that your party of choice has spread bullshit about it not being secure because they didn't like the results in 2020. When Bush won two tainted elections, there was actual physical evidence of faulty equipment. There's STILL nothing showing that in 2020.

" The premise of One Person, One Vote cannot be verified with a system that allows mail in ballots or no voter ID." - Wrong again. Geogia verifies registered signatures on ALL mail-in ballots. If no signature is on file, an copy of an approved alternative ID must accompany all mail in ballots.

Purging the dead: - Estimates are that 1.8 million dead people are on the books NATIONWIDE, but how many of those votes actually turn up? The state of Washington found that over an 8 year period, 14 dead people votes turned up. Nationwide and statewide, it's a non-issue in the actual vote, although OBVIOUSLY, it should be fixed

Malfunction machines is obviously not a good thing, but that problem is negligible as well EXCEPT when things like it happen in Palm Beach's heavily Democratic County in a state run by the candidate's... hmm, brother?

" When one side says that requiring voter ID is racist and tightening up voter laws is voter suppression" - It CAN BE suppression or racism IF you do design it to be so, as many states did indeed do.

" The truth is that nobody really knows if Biden stole the election or not." Bullshit. And more bullshit. Only Trumpers believe that, and there IS no proof. None at all.

[loveslongnails]

"It is not enough that it cannot be proven it was stolen." - Well isn't that convenient for you? OF the states that you Trumpers claim need investigating, how many were controlled by the REPUBLICANS? Hmm, let's see: Arizona, Florida and Georgia were fully Republican - Governor and Legislature. Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania were all split, and only Nevada was fully Dem. I suppose you wanted the Republicans to investigate themselves and find wrongdoing, or more Trump votes, like the wanted Georgia to do? It was laughable.

" The questions everyone has about the election were not investigated to anyone's satisfaction" - that's YOUR opinion and the opinion of Trumpers, and mainly because of the Big Lie. 61 justices and judges, many Trump appointees, have rejected every single one of their "legal challenges", from county, to state, to federal accusations. YES, there are flaws in the system that need fixing, but the Big Lie was and is the disgraceful ranting of a pitiful loser, and nothing more.

Your big argument is that "it's not enough to say it can't be proven" - so it could be so? MY biggest argument is that " The Dems are too inept to pull off anything in the magnitude suggested!" LMAO And up until the election, every Republican candidate agreed that the Dems are a bunch of bungling idiots. Suddenly, they became smart enough to orchestrate a national election steal, huh?

[Bratsondanielle]

Somehow the machines that stopped working and the 4 to 5 hour long lines etc etc etc was all in republican areas. Total coincidence I'm sure.

[loveslongnails]

@Bratsondanielle Just the facts, miss, not conjecture please. Here's a little article for you to read.
www.msn.com/.../ar-AA144pN4

Basically, the Arizona glitch involved printer ink being too light and had nothing to do with the tally counts of the machine. Was it in overwhelmingly Republican districts? No. 37% Republican is they skew. Of course, every other machine glitch was "orchestrated" by Democrat operatives.

It's so adorable that when Republicans win, it's a shining example of the American Democracy in action - a purely run, clean election with accurate results. However, when they lose, the election is corrupt, rigged, fixed, tainted, blah, blah, effin' blah, so say the Kings of Gerrymandering. *eyeroll*

[slatyb]

@exitseven Because people mail in ballots when it's inconvenient for them to get to the polls. That demographic is majority Democratic, so Republican state governments try to make it as inconvenient as possible for them to vote. Counting those ballots doesn't "change the result". There is no result until all the ballots have been counted.

[loveslongnails]

@slatyb Well said. Add to that during the last Presidential election, the fuhrer told his minions NOT to vote absentee if you can avoid it. They said "sig heil" and went to the precincts, so their votes were tabulated early, unlike the Dems who used absentee voting more extensively.

[slatyb]

Because that's how long it takes them to prepare to hold it.

[BrookeAZ90]

Every state that requires a runoff should just do ranked voting the first time. Everyone who voted for Walker and Warnock are going to again. The 2% changing their vote will decide things. So we could have just asked them the first time and be done. Having to print millions of ballots, spend time and money on an entire other election is a tremendous waste of resources.

[exitseven]

People can change their minds about a candidate especially if they voted early.

[slatyb]

Ranked choice voting has other problems. It's been mathematically proven that for elections with more than two candidates, there is not balloting method that is immune from producing perverse results -- a winner who most voters oppose.

[BrookeAZ90]

@slatyb If you're referring to Alaska, people who were complaining about the ranked voting are directing their irritation in the wrong direction with that.

[holdem4884]

The election isn't until December. Whatever the result it won't change the control of the Senate anymore. That's controlled by Democrats regardless of the outcome

[QuietRunner]

that's how the Constitution is written. States get to control their elections unless the Congress changes the States election procedure.

US Constitution Article 1 Section 4 Clause 1

[goaded]

That's the law.

[goaded]

It's a hell of an advert for instant runoff voting. And if you go that way, why not allow each party to put forward more than one candidate? Get rid of the extremists.

(Extremists being the ones who will vote against what clear majorities of the constituents want.)