Dosen't bother me what people want to dress in or act like, each to their own. But I'm not even sure what people mean by what a woman is or what a man is. The spectrum for what men can be between Donald Trump and Graham Norton, is so vast and open to interpretation. The only thing I would say is when it comes to sport where we separate by gender, it does seem that men who transition to women have an unfair advantage, I'm not sure they should be able to compete
Nice little sleight of hand in your options there. Rather than stating that trans men and women are not real men and women, you just said that they are not real. Allowing you to create a straw man argument and accuse anyone who voted for that and stating that they are not real at all.
But we are used to that level of duplicity from those espousing what you believe
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Yeah, of course they're real, a "trans woman" is a real man, and a "trans man" is a real woman. Trans have a real mental disorder that requires real treatment, it's not normal, and like every mentally ill, this people deserve respect, but the normalization and praise of that is fucked up and a huge stupid mistake.
When I say they aren't real, I don't mean they aren't real people. I mean (in my own belief) someone who has a penis is a man and someone who has a vagina is a woman. Doesn't matter what facial features you have or if you got breasts. If you're born with a penis, you're a male. If you're born with a vagina, you're a female.
Again, my own belief.
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Biologically they are not authentic men (or women). They don't have the undercarriage nor the featureset.
I also question the changing of birth certificates - it's like revising history to me and I think governments and other institutions are going to tie themselves in knots with their virtue signalling.
However, if they present in society as their chosen sex physically, and act the role what do I care.
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So you'd date a trans man if you are straight or a trans woman if your a lesbian? And if not why not?
@PainusNdeeAnus lol I'd bet. It kind of sinks the bullshitters who say they believe trans women and trans men are real women & men when they wouldn't date one because they are trans
I have nothing against them they are poeple. Might even be amazing sweet people. They are the gender the were born though. They can dress up take hormones which is dangerous but if that's what they want its their body.
I'm sorry but they're not real women and men technology hasn't found a way to make a woman into a man or vice versa all technology can do is give you a permanent costume to make you look like the gender that you identify with but they'll never be real. You are what you were when you was born and that will never change
I would say they are. Some of those people transition to get as close to a cis man or woman as they can. Or just transition to a certain look that they're comfortable with and want.
Are they "real people"? Yes, as opposed to "real seahorses" or "real coyotes", they are. With only a very minute number of genetic anomalies, humans are born either male or female.
All I want is to be respectful against trans people. If they want to be viewed as man or woman, its not my business, I should respect their pronounce. But I also believe that their partners should know before getting into relationship.
Most often, you can't even tell. It's gotten so good that even I can't tell, and I usually know what to look for, partly because I've got several TS friends!
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Dosen't bother me what people want to dress in or act like, each to their own. But I'm not even sure what people mean by what a woman is or what a man is. The spectrum for what men can be between Donald Trump and Graham Norton, is so vast and open to interpretation.
The only thing I would say is when it comes to sport where we separate by gender, it does seem that men who transition to women have an unfair advantage, I'm not sure they should be able to compete
Nice little sleight of hand in your options there. Rather than stating that trans men and women are not real men and women, you just said that they are not real. Allowing you to create a straw man argument and accuse anyone who voted for that and stating that they are not real at all.
But we are used to that level of duplicity from those espousing what you believe
Yeah, of course they're real, a "trans woman" is a real man, and a "trans man" is a real woman. Trans have a real mental disorder that requires real treatment, it's not normal, and like every mentally ill, this people deserve respect, but the normalization and praise of that is fucked up and a huge stupid mistake.
When I say they aren't real, I don't mean they aren't real people. I mean (in my own belief) someone who has a penis is a man and someone who has a vagina is a woman. Doesn't matter what facial features you have or if you got breasts. If you're born with a penis, you're a male. If you're born with a vagina, you're a female.
Again, my own belief.
Biologically they are not authentic men (or women). They don't have the undercarriage nor the featureset.
I also question the changing of birth certificates - it's like revising history to me and I think governments and other institutions are going to tie themselves in knots with their virtue signalling.
However, if they present in society as their chosen sex physically, and act the role what do I care.
So you'd date a trans man if you are straight or a trans woman if your a lesbian? And if not why not?
I did this poll 98% of them said no LMFAOAOAOAO
@PainusNdeeAnus lol I'd bet. It kind of sinks the bullshitters who say they believe trans women and trans men are real women & men when they wouldn't date one because they are trans
A real woman can give birth, so no, it almost the same to me as girl thinking that she a cat.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/sObPHx2QMY0I have nothing against them they are poeple. Might even be amazing sweet people. They are the gender the were born though. They can dress up take hormones which is dangerous but if that's what they want its their body.
I'm sorry but they're not real women and men technology hasn't found a way to make a woman into a man or vice versa all technology can do is give you a permanent costume to make you look like the gender that you identify with but they'll never be real. You are what you were when you was born and that will never change
No they’re not they’re replicas or counterfeits. Not originals.
Lgbtq community is not an identity- it’s a personified fetish/kink.
I would say they are. Some of those people transition to get as close to a cis man or woman as they can. Or just transition to a certain look that they're comfortable with and want.
No.
A trans man is a woman who wants to live their life as a man.
A trans woman is a man who wants to live their life as a woman.
That's like saying "a fake Gucci bag is "real" as a Gucci made bag, because I have two fakes and can't tell the difference!"
Get your head out your ass.
If they have "XY" chromosomes, they are male. If they have "XX" chromosomes, they're female.
No matter what surgeries, hormones, or pronouns they may have, nothing can change this basic biological fact.
Are they "real people"? Yes, as opposed to "real seahorses" or "real coyotes", they are. With only a very minute number of genetic anomalies, humans are born either male or female.
All I want is to be respectful against trans people. If they want to be viewed as man or woman, its not my business, I should respect their pronounce. But I also believe that their partners should know before getting into relationship.
Is this a real zebra?
Most often, you can't even tell. It's gotten so good that even I can't tell, and I usually know what to look for, partly because I've got several TS friends!
As a friend to a trans as well… no. A man is a man a woman is a woman. No amount of surgery changes that as of now sorry. Respect but still.
In my opinion, you can change the body that you were born in but biologically, you are still the gender that you were born as.