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Are trans women and trans men real women & men? 🏳️⚧️? (Page 2)
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Lmao most people said that trans people are not real. Why did you word it that way? Trans people are real people but they're not the gender they claim to be.
No also pronouns shouldn't exist if they were good then I should be referred to the adjectives I want correct so from now on you have to call me smart and handsome before saying my name just doesn't make any sense
If I test your skeleton hundreds of years later, you're going to come up as the biological sex you were born as and remain for your whole life.
Anyone who changes there sex aren’t real or natural, and they will never be natural or real no matter how much surgery or hormones is taken
lol " view them as real men and woman" YAWN...
lgbtq community needs to be dismissed.
Gender is just a social construct. I’ll respect your preferred pronouns.
Then whats the point of modern feminism?
Advocacy for, and the belief that access to rights and opportunities should be unaffected by gender..
@Ryfyle *unaffected by gender and/or sex
Then why do Trans rights advocates have so much beef with them?
@Ryfyle they don’t, people have an issue with radical feminism, which isn’t even feminism to begin with.
It’s like the term toxic masculinity, it’s a phrase to describe behavior that isn’t actually masculine at all.
@suzzieQ Dunno about that. The TERF wars are just heating up. All a matter of time before it all comes loose.
@Ryfyle Well do you think that masculinity is toxic? Because I don't, but I think that it is extremely harmful to take toxic behavior like hyper aggression and trying to rebrand it as masculinity.
@suzzieQ The word you're Malignant or Maladjusted Masculinity. Hydrogen Cyanide is Toxic, Frat hazing is malignant masculinity.
@Ryfyle No I mean toxic, as it's defined "very harmful or unpleasant in a pervasive or insidious way" fits, malignant essentially means cancerous, or is a synonym for malevolent, but it's not malevolent because in most cases these behaviors don't typically come from a desire or intent to do evil to others.
If anything, insidious masculinity would be more apt.
@suzzieQ Or just Moron Masculinity. It's really mostly dumb assholes acting in such a way.
@Ryfyle but unfortunately it negatively effects society as a whole
@suzzieQ Well Jack Ass happened 20 years ago, and here we are.
@Ryfyle what happened in 2003
@suzzieQ It was a less shitty world where people hung out in real time outside and the internet wasn't as corrupted.
You were born into the worst possible future of near constant social strife.
@Ryfyle pretty ironic coming from the online guys
@suzzieQ Wheres the Irony?
A transwoman is a real man pretending to be a woman and vice versa.
No they’re trans men and women. But societally why does it matter?
I only see it concerning the person, their partners and their doctors.
Nope. A man without a dick isn't a woman because he says so. And a woman isn't a man just because she "feels like it".
I said Yes, but with a caveat that said person is 100% committed to it, which includes hormones and surgery.
Yes, transmen are men and transwomen are women.
I defy anybody who disagrees to come up with a definition of "woman" or "man".
if they go through the surgery sure. other than that no.
There's no objective definition of what a "real" man/woman is.
No, they are not. Reality is not defined by wishful thinking.
No. If a trans woman can't produce children or can't have kids... not a woman
A human born boy is a man. A human born girl is a woman. Period.
Not biologically but I really don’t care either way
No. Might as well say canines are felines and felines are canines.
Yes, and soon the woke will let me identify as an aardvark.
Transsexuality is a mental illness, plain and simple.
If you have a penis, you are a male.
If you have a vagina, you are a female.
If you think you are the opposite, you are mentally ill.
If they were real men and women, you would have never asked this question to begin with
You can keep changing parts as much as you want but that doesn't make it real
Judging by the questions you ask, you sound like a creepy old dude in a wig.
“If you put makeup on a pig, it’s still a pig”
-Orlin
If you have a penis you are a guy. I don't care if it's the one you were born with.
If a trans man or trans women was a real man or woman then we wouldn't be calling them trans
Nope. You can put human beings clothing on a dog, but that doesn’t make him a human. He’s still a dog.
So if a man who says he is a woman plays sports against biological women and absolutely dominates them… it’s fair?
yeah. I've changed my views a lot... seen a few trans girls that I've liked.
Why you want to ask a hurtful question like this?
No, they’re not. At all. Not even in a billion eons
Of course not, they will never be but they do seem to do an amazing job to be physically
No, they are not. They cannot be.
Welp... looks like one view is outnumbered.
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They were before their transition.
Gender is just a social construct.
@Рrеgnаnt_Маn darkness cannot be emitted, because darkness is just absence of light, just as cold is the absence of warmth.
@Рrеgnаnt_Маn nope, they are adjectives that describe the absence of something physical.
@Рrеgnаnt_Маn the state or fact of existing, occurring, or being present in a place or thing vs. the nonexistence or lack of
They are what their biological sex is
They are seriously mentally ill people.
Wow!! And you’re seriously a dick
How is he a dick? Body dysmorphia/transgenderism is literally a mental illness where, in your mind, you feel like you're not the gender that you were born with.
Stating a fact doesn't make someone a dick...
@miniskirtcaley81. There is no other term possible for transgender people, they are seriously mentally ill.
My dude couldn't be more right on this
Lol nothing but facts
Biologically no.
It's a sad day when women are right
They are the sex they were born
They’re self entitled
Why wouldn't they be.
Can one reproduce?
Straight answer. NO!
Biologically real? No.
Absolutely not. Barf.
Depends
I'm going to elaborate because I feel like this will be taken the wrong way. I feel trans people are valid. I also believe that some people take advantage of the trans movement and use it to be deviant. I've heard again and again about "trans women" SA-ing women in bathrooms, locker rooms or just being uncomfortable. I've seen it with my own eyes. I think those people are taking advantage of the trans movement. I mean is it normal to see a trans woman that's like very muscular with almost a beard, bad make up a cheap wig and a hard dick starting at you in the gym locker room? That's a guy taking advantage of the fact that trans women are trying to fucking exist and being a creep because he knows we won't say anything. So in my eyes if you haven't been cut or using any hormones or aren't even trying in the slightest to behave my society's standard of "woman" you are not one to me.
This shit is creepy to me. Yes because of these experiences I have become distrusting and this is how I feel. I even met a "trans woman" on a female friend website. Who kept trying to convince me to get naked because we were girls and was grinding on me when we're dancing and said we should "masturbate together" I felt their dick on my butt. So no, as I said it depends. the shit that is going on is weird. I can't trust anybody.
This is my own experience and I'm sorry if it comes off hurtful, but as someone with tons of SA and I feel the only people I can trust are girls and then you have people doing this. It's hard to know who you can trust. Whether you are trans or not if you say you are a woman you are. I just know there are people taking advantage of the movement and it definitely makes me uncomfortable and I hate to say that and I feel awful that it is happening for the trans community.
No, never
Nope.
What is a woman?
I’m not a biologist, I can’t say
So you agree that being a woman has to do with biology?
It has EVERYTHING to do with biology
Cool. So it isn't about identity and how people "feel". That itself destroys the argument of transgenderism. Do you know what a cat is? Or do you have to be a biologist for that too?
Do you remember that Biden nominated the first black woman to the Supreme Court?
I'm not American. I don't care about American politics. Its irrelevant to me. And no one cares if it is a woman or black, as long as they are the best candidate for the job.
She was asked what a woman was
Her response was “I’m not a biologist…”
I see. So that's what you were trying to say. Cool.
Yes, I was trying to be funny.
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Oof 29% retarded
They’re not.
Lol hell no
Nah.
Yessss
Nope not real