Why don't we just get rid of daylight savings?

[chicken_nugget24]

I know why we needed in the past but in 2023 it is becoming more of a nightmare than useful. What do you think about it?

[gorydetails]

the only compelling reason to keep changing the time is that children would be waiting at bus stops in the dark most all of the year which could be a safety issue. Other than that I want it gone.

[chicken_nugget24]

They already wait around in the dark half the year anyways. I remember for months I walked to and from school in the dark

[MrOracle]

That problem is easily solved by the locality changing the start time of school. Each district already sets their own schedules, so they could simply adjust it.

[chicken_nugget24]

I like that idea @mroracke

[gorydetails]

I’m not dying on that hill. I hate it getting dark early more than most. Just saying.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Technically getting rid of it means in the mornings they won't be in the dark as much, as they steal an hour of morning light to give it to the evening. Schools are usually out by 3-4pm at the latest.

Thus getting rid of it, means they would have light in the mornings while waiting at the bus.

However IF they go to perma daylight savings, then it would be darker for them in the mornings. Hence I say, get rid of it and do not go to perma day light savings.

[Marked_Man]

That would be too logical.

Our congress has buried the legislation every time it comes up. There must be powerful forces in business against it.

[Marked_Man]

Thanks for mh

[NamerOfStars]

When, exactly, did we need it in the past? The idea was created by Benjamin Franklin as a way to save candles, back when wax was expensive, but not implemented until the first world war, to save electricity, and even THEN, electrical consumption went UP, because it turns out that you can't rewrite human nature with legislation. It's only gotten worse since.

It costs billions of dollars and kills hundreds of people each year, and fails spectacularly at its stated purpose, but lobbyists are powerful things, and won't give up easily. Also an issue: Halloween. In 2007, my least favorite member of Congress (since Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms were gone by then) wrote and passed a bill that extended DST from six months to six and a half, and do you know why? Candy companies. Halloween is now covered, and many towns were stopping trick-or-treating because it's dangerous in the dark.

Congress's most recent attempt wasn't to abolish it, but to make it PERMANENT, since Marco Rubio is an idiot who thinks it's more dangerous to be fatigued at night than in the morning, and he doesn't have to worry about a sleep-deprived driver with poor visibility hitting a patch of ice he can't see since the sun hasn't risen yet and plowing his Honda into a crowd of grade schoolers waiting at the bus stop, since that doesn't happen in Florida. The rest of the country does NOT have that excuse, but the Senate approved it anyway. Hell, Illinois was trying to do it back at the start of 2020; luckily, Covid put paid to that- for a time, at least.

[Kyr0s]

Its still needed in the UK. Else the Sun would be up way too early

[chicken_nugget24]

Fair enough

[Kyr0s]

Which timezone are you based in?

[chicken_nugget24]

Bst and you?

[Kyr0s]

Same lol. I'm a Londoner. Now I'm in the North tho. For Uni.

[chicken_nugget24]

Ah very nice :)

[Kyr0s]

Gosh. Can't dm cos of low exp lol. But yeah. Are you in Uni or working?

[chicken_nugget24]

English grad currently working in a shop. My hopes we're so much higher 🤣

[Kyr0s]

Oh gosh. Yeah I've met a few people like that... why not get into teaching then?

[chicken_nugget24]

It was more BA Art and English Literature but I was forced to go to university

[chicken_nugget24]

My degree is useless lmao

[Kyr0s]

Me too lol. By my parents. I didn't need Uni either.

[Kyr0s]

No, you can still get into teaching and/or civil services with that degree. They just need a general degree.

[chicken_nugget24]

I don't want to do any othose tings. I hate kids lol

[Kyr0s]

Lol. You won't have to deal with kids on Civil. Are you working in retail?

[chicken_nugget24]

No I really don't want to do anything like that and technically yes. One job is retail and the other is working in a shop

[Kyr0s]

I see. Well, hopefully it all works out for you. Do you have insta? I'll add you :) If you want to keep private, that's fine too. Just asking cos you seem cool that's all.

[chicken_nugget24]

Na sorry and thanks you too :)

[Kyr0s]

Cool. Nice meeting you :)

[chicken_nugget24]

You too!

[hbg84]

It doesn't actually save any daylight. Its daylight for a certain amount of hours each day. All it does is change the time it gets dark. Nothing more nothing less

[Dargil]

Somebody is making money on the time change.

[Avicenna]

Yeah, I think we should get rid of it by staying on it all year.

[Molly1997]

We don’t have that where I live I don’t see the point

[Mansearching]

Its frivolous. For people in a city. But useful for people on farms. They get more light to work in.

[LemiaOfThunder]

kind of