Do you think the government plans mass shootings in an attempt to get rid of the 2nd amendment?

[Anonymous]

It's just a thought. Im not talking about the victims being a part of it. But it just seems like there's a mass shooting all the time. Would it be far fetched to think the government pays or gives people deals in exchange for their service basically to go out and kill a bunch of helpless people? The more and more this happen a lot of people will push back against the 2nd amendment. Since the government can't just outright ban guns without a cause

[NamerOfStars]

No- if nothing else, then because the proportion of crazies who'd be more willing to go out and shoot a bunch of random people if paid is WAY lower than the proportion of crazies who'd go on the talk show circuit to talk about how the government offered to pay them to go out and shoot a bunch of random people.

Mass shootings happen mostly because an individual is driven to absolute extremes of stress, has no viable outlets for their anxiety and anger, and feels wholly rejected by the world- they see themselves as having nothing to lose. Addressing those problems would require making some major social and economic changes, and few people- of ANY stripe- are willing to even consider doing so.

Claiming that law-abiding gun owners should suffer (and by extension, law-abiding non-gun owners should suffer) because of the actions of evil shooters is like saying that we all need to give up our cars because of drunk drivers. Congress knows this, and so makes periodic idle threats to that effect, to stir up public controversy and divert notice from the nastier crap they're doing.

They don't create the crises (not directly, anyway); they just profit from them. Like with Covid.

[ShadezMcgee]

No, I don't believe that. What I do believe is we have a lot of mentally unstable and disturbed individuals who not only have access to firearms, but are in turn acting out as a way to gain recognition and a level of recognition they crave because they won't amount to anything or want to have a level of power and control that they feel they lack.

I wrote a myTake about it here on what I believe is the cause of it. Mental illness and a trend that acts similar to social media and appeals to younger individuals to have fame and do better than the last jackoff who went on a killing spree.

My Theory on Mass Shootings

[Anonymous]

I don’t think anyone can point to a piece of evidence that the government was behind any mass shooting. Where would you even find people willing to commit murder, then give up their freedom or their own life afterwards just to help the government? It’s extremely far-fetched when you think about it. This country is full of dumbasses who aren’t stable enough to live among the rest of us and have no business ever handling a gun. That’s the truth.

[Asker]

Money that will ensure their families future. Look up operation northwoods. Im not saying this could be that but its an actual operation the government had planned and apparently jfk was assinated because he was going to expose this operation

[Opinion Owner]

It was a proposal to justify a war. It had nothing to do with mass murder or the second amendment……and you’re reaching back 65 years to find something that’s really not even evidence of what you’re proposing? I’m not even going to address JFK conspiracy theories.

[Asker]

I know they're not related. But if the government could some shady and messed up stuff like that to its own soil, why wouldn't they use other forms of persuading the public to side with them

[Asker]

Do some*

[Opinion Owner]

So where would they find these people who are willing to commit mass murder, then be shot by the police or spend the rest of their life in prison just to help the government achieve a political goal?

[Asker]

You act like it would be impossible or act like people who work for them wouldn't do this. There's a lot of possibilities on how they could find these kind people

[Opinion Owner]

Nothing is impossible but it’s extremely unlikely that any pro-government saboteur would essentially martyr themselves to achieve a policy goal. Who are these zealots? It’s a legitimate question. We might as well be talking about the existence of Bigfoot or UFO’s.

[Asker]

I don't know, ask the Taliban or Isis that. Suicide is in their veins

[Opinion Owner]

So you think there’s a secret cabal of government saboteurs willing to martyr themselves like a Muslim religious fanatic?

[Asker]

Of course. You really believe our country doesn't negotiate with terrorists?

[Opinion Owner]

What evidence have you seen of their existence?

[purplepoppy]

99.9% of mass shootings are carried out by people who have far right and grumble about the guberment gonna take away ma gun.
They're hardly the type to get in bed with the government on gun control.

[Asker]

I'm not a Republican or Democrat. I have no sides. But you should look up operation northwoods which is a real operation by the way. Its not a conspiracy

[NaultD]

People have been killing the powers at be for as long as history has writing. It's only in the very modern era they become untouchable. From the jfk assassination created the "the beast" president tank looking like limo.

Can't hit the quality target you make up for with quantity. We are just lambs to the slaughter for protecting the privileges of the powerful.

[DryGermanGuy]

Of course! And these lizard-people-gone-government-killer are deployed secretly by black helicopters running in silent mode! We need to watch out! :-o

[Asker]

Okay this question is crazy to you. Got it

[lightbulb27]

no, they don't have to, people will do it anyways until it happens to the wrong person or right even... that pushes the legislation. then they can steal all your money when people are disarmed.

[Anonymous]

Oh, please stop.

[Asker]

Not every conspiracy is wrong. And its just a thought. Nothing more

[Dargil]

I don't think so, but they do fail to put into play policies which would deter mass shootings. An example is "gun free zones" which become targets for crime.

[richardcory]

No possible way such a large conspiricy could work.

[Anonymous]

I dont think mass shootings but I think some shootings yes. Some agents are payed by the government to kill people. Something to stay away from obviously.. The less we know the better

[SaoirseS]

Nope.