Not for nothing, but is the US beyond saving as a decaying society, or will conservative backlash be strong and decisive enough to correct course?

[WhiteBoyChill]

My main question is, will the US just inevitably continue to get worse?

Its just extremely mentally frustrating living in a socially decaying society where woke PC BS is being promoted literally everywhere in mass media, schools and public spaces. And then of course just the fact that people are obsessed with victimhood and complaining and finding issues in LITERALLY EVERYTHING.

Somehow “baby its cold outside” is offensive to women whereas Cardi B rapping about her “wet *ss p*ssy” is totally celebrated and encouraged.

I just tend to feel disconnected from American culture in general as well.

I’ll eat a hamburger, I love steak on the grill, I like drinking beer, but I’ve just never understood the obsession and the hype about American football in particular. I’ve just never cared.

I prefer to watch Ronaldo and Messi playing futbol matches.

And also just the obsession with consumerism and social media and celebrity culture and how people tend to be loud, obnoxious and narcissistic in general.

Its not even that we’re all hillbies and rednecks growing long bears like the English always stereotype.

Its more so just that most people in the younger generation were extremely spoiled growing up and have absolutely no respect and appreciation for things. They have this sense of entitlement and just thinking the entire world revolves around them.

Either way I’m just afraid the media has managed to manipulate and indoctrinate too many people. I don’t see things getting better myself, and I’ve honestly contemplated about moving to another country a number of times.

If Trump doesn’t win in 2024 I am probably going to lose my f*cking mind to such a point where it won’t end pretty for me, or the people in the WH.

I voted for Trump, but I was willing to give Biden an honest chance but it is just straight up the worst admin in American history.

I just can’t deal with the constant stress and headaches of having to deal with certain people and hearing certain things being said.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

What makes you think that conservative values are not what made this country as messed up as it is. Right now it's Christian fascism that is trying to remove rights from it's citizens that is the problem. And this is coming from someone who has some conservative values.

Besides, every older generation feels that the newer generation is somehow worse than the one before and it won't be any different for the next generation. Welcome to the same cycle your parents generation went through too.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Its the opposite. Its leftists that think everything about America is racist from the ground up that serve as the issue. You’re creating issues that don’t exist, while also drawing divisions amongst people based on race and class

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I'm not creating anything as I'm not a leftist. And perhaps they feel that way because they are the ones experiencing it so they would know better. Just because it doesn't exist for you, doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I’ve heard all about BLM. It is a movement based on falsehoods and lies that I will not ever support.

Also I see no discrimination when it comes to job hiring or anything of the sort. Most large corporate companies in general have diversity and inclusion boards and initiatives. My Dad even says himself there are hardly any new white employees in his company, despite living in a mostly white area.

If anything we’re now beginning to overcompensate for minorities, just because they’ve been historically underrepresented due to socio-economic factors themselves that have nothing to do with race based discrimination, which has been outlawed for the past several decades.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

So... let me get this straight, you are complaining about BLM and whites not being hired enough? Isn't that creating an issue that doesn't exist while also drawing divisions amongst people based on race?

Yikes.

Just goes to show both sides are mirror images of one another saying the same thing with different words. This is why I stay as a centrist.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I find issue with BLM because BLM itself is an issue. Were you living under a rock when they had all those violent protests in 2020?

Also I’m not saying white people can’t get hired, but only that being white is not viewed as a specialty in the same way hiring a non-white employee is.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Sure wasn’t, but that's what people do when they are tired of being repressed. They protest.

And just because you didn't live in the times where colored people and women couldn't apply for certain jobs didn't mean it didn't happen. Affirmative action was meant to ensure we didn't go back to that way of life. It wasn't a perfect solution by any means, but thats why it existed.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Affirmative action itself is discriminatory though. I just don’t support living in a society where people are judged on something as simple as their racial or ethnic background

[WhiteBoyChill]

And again, you keep saying these people are repressed, but I don’t see any evidence for that. We’ve done away with that stuff. The year isn’t 1950 anymore

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

You're right, we don't but it's an easy slice back there if people don't keep fighting where they see injustice. Just look where things are going with women's choice and lgbt rights.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I don’t see either of those two things as negative progress though. Banning conversion therapy for minors isn’t a bad thing, and neither is restricting access to abortion, which itself is an act comprable to murder. I believe everyone ought to have the right to life. As a matter of fact under the same pretense that the unborn are viewed as undesirables, so too were all the people that Hitler committed genocide against

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Then don't have one. Others desire the right to choose and should have every right to.

Let parents and children make the right decisions for themselves without the need for you to stick your nose in it and give your two cents.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Gee. And you call yourself someone who’s middle ground?

A majority of Americans support outlawing conversion therapy for minors.

Your views are extreme. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1019321

Let me also ask, do you support abortion at ANY stage of pregnancy?

[exitseven]

@Ez-Bri-Z_v2 Thee younger generation is worse that the one before. They have a sense of entitlement and lack common sense. They grew up in an environment where everyone got a trophy and everyone was special. They never learned survival skills and believe everything they see on the internet is real. I had some outstanding young people work in my department but the majority were entitled snowflakes.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Yeah I am middle ground, but I don't believe in taking away someone's rights just because you think it's icky. I don't believe in your right to protest it just like I don't believe in you trying to strip them of their rights.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Well, you’re in disagreement with 82% of Americans. How do you justify being “middle ground” when you clearly aren’t?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Because the middle is not taking any rights away from any Americans left or right.

[WhiteBoyChill]

But you support people having rights a majority of liberals also support taking away.

Just read what I sent you. California was the first to ban conversion therapy for minors, and yet you support that stuff.

You’re more hardened in leftist ideology than even the average leftist themselves

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Whatever helps you sleep better at night in believing.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Its a fact. I gave you the evidence. I’m not making up a thing

[exitseven]

When Trump was president the country was going in the right direction. It was amazing how just implementing America First policies helped every single American Citizen. Either by giving a tax cut, making the border secure, supporting law enforcement, having low energy prices and low unemployment or having real wage growth across all demographics. In 2 short years Biden and his handlers have touched off double digit inflation, an invasion at the southern border, over 100,000 young Americans have died of fentanyl ODs, crashed the stock market, caused high interest rates and defunded the police and implemented no cash bail.

I think this can be reversed and hopefully Americans realize which policies work in favor of American citizens and whose policies put America last and not make the same mistake twice.

[WhiteBoyChill]

That’s what I’m saying. It was good when we had Trump but I fear he was just a band-aid on a long term problem.

I’m saying I’ve just about had my tolerance stretched thin over their past couple years and if things don’t change next time around, I am going to literally lose my collective sanity

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[inhua]

as long as conservatives take their elections as serious as liberals, this wouldn't be an issue.

for far too long conservatives underestimated the stubbornness of the liberals and the stupidity of the public to make the right decision which is to vote rather than believe that common sense exists in the voters when apparently it doesn't which is how the Biden administration came to power

[provokeesmokee]

Yeah, as long as people like you are there, America is doomed.

It's kinda sad. You were failed by everyone in your family and your country. You're too stupid to realise it, and too Yankee to recognise it. But it's not entirely your fault - you weren't ever given a fair or complete education.

That's no excuse for you being a legal adult and continuing to be ignorant - but then again, the US is also gutting libraries and making it impossible to learn without risking death by shooting. So maybe you wouldn't stand a chance anyways.

The US is beyond saving if the young people of America don't revolt. That said, it is more efficient to wait for you to evaporate yourselves. You're on the way, America, don't stop now.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Excuse me, you’re the problem. Its ignorant young people that are lazy and don’t want to work hard that are the real threat to the state. As for me, I’m currently an Engineering student in my third year of University. And by the way, I’m making $24 an hour at my current internship this summer.

[Anonymous]

“If Trump doesn’t win in 2024 I am probably going to lose my f*cking mind to such a point where it won’t end pretty for me, or the people in the WH.”

Hmmmmm. That’s sounds a lot like a threat.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Lol Feds better watch out.

But in all seriousness though I’d probably just forget about it the next day and move on

[DryGermanGuy]

Sounds like you need a break from God's own country and a change of scenery, badly.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Yeah. I kinda just want to live wherever people are socially conservative, don’t give a f*ck about politics and just work, live life, and behave normally.

[DryGermanGuy]

Habla español? You might want to try Mexico or one of the Middle-American states for these experiences.

[WhiteBoyChill]

No hablo español. But not for nothing Mexico and other Central American states for that matter have a reputation of being dangerous places

[DryGermanGuy]

That reputation is largely created by other culturally challenged Americans, trapped in their silly little bubble. You dig?

[LisaLisa89]

It sounds like he would enjoy a proper conservative theocracy like Afghanistan. It's a win for him and a win for America.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@DryGermanGuy Uhm no. You can look it up yourself. The cartels are a huge problem there.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@LisaLisa89 I’m non-muslim so it doesn’t quite work that way.

[DryGermanGuy]

I have traveled in those countries. I don’t need to look up anecdotes.

[WhiteBoyChill]

I don’t doubt that there are safe areas for tourists to visit, or perhaps even for American citizens to reside in long-term.

But the fact is, the cartels are still a problem many in the country deal with.

[WhiteBoyChill]

amp.miamiherald.com/.../article273157190.html

www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-50315470

howsafeismexico.com/compare_mexico_us_cities/amp/

[DryGermanGuy]

Yes, of course there are areas more dangerous than others. That's the reason to stay informed about local events and use common sense when traveling in any country. Somehow you have to make the first step.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Yeah man. I get that there’s safe places to be, but I kinda want the freedom to just freely move around everywhere without having to worry too much.

[DryGermanGuy]

Is that what you have now, son? Many people from the United States reported back to me that living in an urban area means constant stress and vigilance for them.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Yes I agree. The city’s are definitely a problem. But here in the US you have the ability to freely traverse around the countryside without the fear of getting mugged or intercepted by some gang.

[peedy]

Brace yourself the storm is about to hit
Nothing can stop what is coming

[WhiteBoyChill]

If you’re talking about a Trump landslide, I hope you are right

[OddBeMe]

First, yes possibly.
Second, Repubs are the main problem.

[MysticDevice]

We've been through worse. We'll be fine.