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+1 yWell, the MSM said it didn’t come from a lab and Fauci said the same thing so it must be true. 🤣
Let’s see now, a virus is ‘accidentally released’ upon a population which eventually spreads across the globe. An experimental ‘injection’ (it’s not a vaccine by definition) is created by several companies and forced upon a global population without adequate testing. Those who forgo the ‘injection’ are labelled and ostracized as ‘anti-vaxxers’ for not falling in line. Millions die globally from several related side effects yet the ‘injection’ is given the okay to continue usage. The government conveniently makes it impossible to sue the manufacturers for a minimum of 25 years while new versions of the ‘injection’ are allowed to be foisted upon the populations yet again. Out of fear, people willfully line up to ‘protect themselves’ over and over again while big pharma reaps the rewards of fear with many new billionaires added to the list even though the global economy is left in shambles.
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why is it not a vaccine? Its designed to stimulate an immune response - which is exactly what a vaccine does.
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+1 yFauci might've tried to disprove the Wuhan lab infection theory because it appeared, in 2020-- not later, to be a conspiracy theory and a blame game on the Chinese. -- As if it was purposely done through some infectious disease weaponizing plan.
It was done through sloppy sanitary practices of lab personnel.
All this guy's guff about the LA Times and Fauci being paid money by Big Pharma to make the Wuhan lab appear innocent sounds far-fetched. It would be simple to follow such a money trail by other professional journalists.
This also sounds like the anti-journalism spate that's gone on of late. He is a loose cannon stand-up comedian who, though he espoused being anti-vax, was vaccinated.
Wikipedia has this quote:
During the COVID-19 pandemic, Dore promoted misleading information about the efficacy and safety of vaccines, even though he had been vaccinated. The anti-parasitic drug ivermectin was promoted on his program as a treatment for COVID-19 although there is no medical evidence to support this.He is anti-journalist/journalism and what is most impressive about him is this quote:
Dore's comedy style was described in 2006 by The Central New Jersey Home News Tribune as incendiary and "based on what makes most in the States angry and uncomfortable."
Doesn't sound like a credible source to me.
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Covid was a bio weapon and there will be more. And you will defend all of the attempts.
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@Stacey55666 If covid is a bio weapon, and by the way, there is an upsurge in infections again, I want to have some protection against it. I've never gotten it, though relatives around me have, and I don't want to be sick to miss work and my salary. just as I take the flu shot, I'm keeping up with vaccines for new variants. It's the same thing as a flu shot, but covid can cause organ failure and other problems. I know people who've died or been sick or debilitated for months. Can't afford to have that happen. It's just a practicality.
I got the J&J shot and wish I hadn't! I was going out of the country and the airline required it. Such a scam!
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8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Wow. My man Jimmy Dore is looking old and fast. But back to the topic.
First of all, there is no evidence that proves that covid19 came from any lab. You can argue that it is more or less likely, but there is nothing that proves it. You are just making speculations based on probabilities.
Also, Dr Fauci was the public face to the American people. It was literally his job to convince people to give up on misinformation and conspiracy theories. Even if it was true, and the virus did come from a lab (Which I do not believe), we simply dont have the evidence to prove that and making blind speculations on the off-chance that you are correct by pure chance is stupid and harmful for the American people.
And I feel like I have to repeat this. There are no conclusive evidence that the virus came from any labs. That includes the study that Jimmy Dore keeps referencing. The study simply found evidence that might point towards it but nothing conclusive.
So yeah, I love when conspiracy theorists tell me everyone is lying to me and that I should believe in (their) facts when I can clearly tell that they themselves just lied to my face. Very convincing, but also very on brand for Jimmy Dore.
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Where did you see that? I saw one early report but later debunked
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We can always count on you to be in the top 3 of stupidest people on any thread.
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It's not like I posted an entire video or anything explaining this..
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Studies are usually in the form of peer reviewed papers. Without that check, people can say antyhing
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I mean, what are the odds a Wuhan virology lab studying coronaviruses and using gain of function research to make them more virulent with three employees who came down with a mysterious illness would be in the EXACT SAME area of a city with 11,000,000 people as a wet market housing animals that just so happened to have a novel coronavirus that was capable of jumping from animals to humans. I mean, you'd have to be crazy not to believe that those dirty Asians who eat weird things ate the one pangolin with this coronavirus.
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@gorydetails What is more probable, that a virus that already exists in nature comes into contact with civilization or that a virus escapes from a lab which is staffed by professionals that has both the tools and the experience to prevent just that?
Also, its not at all strange for a virus to jump from animals to humans, especially if it had already demonstrated its ability to infect other animals by jumping from bats to a pangolin or other intermediary creature. It would not even be the first world wide pandemic caused by humans eating an animal who was infected. HIV for example is thought to originate from humans eating a diseased chimpanzee.
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@Juxtapose It's just another weird coincidence. Nothing to see here.
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@gorydetails Oh Are you interested in their research. In 2017 they had spent 5 years for example sampling viruses found in a cave with bats that had a SARS Cov virus that could infect humans and raised an alarm regarding a nearby village which they in 2018 concluded had already been infected. Kinda sounds like a problem now does it not?
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There's also no evidence that dogs drink out of toilet bowls, you ever seen it happen other than in the TV shows or movies? They're lying to us, dogs drinking out of toilet bowls is nothing more than a conspiracy theory
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@gorydetails Got me? By acknowledging that they literally found a virus that is eerily similar to covid19 literally spreading in human populations back in 2018? How big of a leap do you think it would be for that virus to jump from a community of 200ish people to the rest of society? Is it more or less probable than a virus escaping from a lab?
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@disgustingweebtrash Good for you.
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@gorydetails Does it matter if that exact virus was covid19 or not? The researchers did not just find one virus, they found countless of them and if one can make the leap then all of them has the potential to do it. Even if the virus spreading back in 2018 was not covid19 it was a warning that this was an open path of transmission that can at any moment release a pandemic.
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@gorydetails Soteris requires a "peer reviewed" study to decide what cereal he has in the morning otherwise he would say there is no evidence that X cereal brand is his favourite cereal brand
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@disgustingweebtrash A peer reviewed study would be very much appreciated, but at this point I just want an actual example such as pointing towards specific genes that was edited or whatever. All the evidence so far that I skimmed through was just circumstantial nonsense.
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I'm curious as to why you would not even at least slightly entertain the idea, you outright dismiss it without even a crumb of "hmm maybe" yet other times on the subject of the US you have no qualms of accusing it of destabilizing other nations through organizations such as the CIA, it seems governments are only capable of bad when they admit they do bad things 30 years after it happens
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@disgustingweebtrash Are your lives so miserably boring that the question of if covid19 was released from a lab or not excites you? I personally could not care less, you either prove it to me or you dont. I am not interested in mindless speculations when it does not change anything in the end.
And no, them releasing it intentionally is fucking stupid. If it was released from a lab, which is possible if unlikely, then it would be by mistake which is boring. And no, Covid19 is not a bio weapon. That is something only people who dont understand bio weapons would say, which again makes this even more boring. - +1 y
What to you is a speculation that changes something in the end?
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Ah, so now it's "boring". lol. You're a clown.
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@disgustingweebtrash Lets take the same scenario but add a malicious intention into it. Instead of covid19 being released accidentally it would be released intentionally. At this point its no longer just an accident be it in nature or in a lab but an actual intent behind it which means that the question suddenly becomes very important to answer.
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@gorydetails Yes, its boring. Just imagine it, all this drama, all these years, all these idiots raging and raving on the internet and when the truth finally comes out (for arguments sake) it just turned out to be a random scientist not washing under their nails properly when going home after work. It is a huge anti-climax to such a big argument and that is the thing you want me to become upset and riled up over. Sorry but I just dont care.
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@gorydetails It do be like that sometimes. Also a good reason why we dont rely on victims for unbiased judgement, they are not in a good position to put aside their emotions and make a "correct" decision.
I question how you have lived your life without encountering the fact that accidents happen and there does not have to be someone that conspired against you. Quick question, do you blame God when lightning strikes by any chance? Would explain so much. - +1 y
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@gorydetails abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=39736836
Here is an example. Special note to the fact that if a mosquito where to bite her it could further extend the outbreak during that time.
https://www.fda.gov/media/101811/download
Here is another one of a bureaucratic fuckup.
www.cdc.gov/.../...1contaminationeventAugust15.pdf
Here is another one.
Just to name a few. Needlesticks are especially common in fact. - +1 y
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@gorydetails All of these are examples that could have ended much worse than they actually did. Following quarantine protocols or no, a mosquito bite in the first example could be the catalyst that started another world wide pandemic and there is not much you can do against such bad luck.
Likewise the other two demonstrates examples of how things could have ended badly, even if they did not. Finally, it is you that claim Covid19 was a lab leak, not me. To my knowledge there has never been a lab leak that spiraled out of control and infected the world, not because its impossible but because we have not had that much bad luck yet.
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@Soteris no, you didn't prove anything. You posted unrelated links and think you did something. So I'll say it again. There's not a way to have an accidental release of a disease from a virology lab without serious mishandling of safety protocols. But more than likely this disease was released intentionally. But keep believing it was a pangolin and a bat. Your stupidity is your problem.
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@gorydetails She was 1: Not in her lab at all times so objectively speaking the disease did escape the lab and 2: There was a very reasonable chance that she could have transmitted the disease along by a simple mosquito bite. So that example both shows an escape from the lab and the pathway for an uncontrollable transmission.
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lmao. Right. Just an AMAZING coincidence.
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@gorydetails No, its honestly even expected. If covid19 came from nature and these scientists literally had a job to go out and collect samples of these diseases then they are obviously some of the first to probably be infected even if they were never patient zero.
Again, this proves nothing. I also dont care if it is an "amazing coincidence", those happens in reality too. Give me PROOF of something so we can see that it is NOT a coincidence. - +1 y
I gave you proof. Three scientists working at a covid lab that was doing gain of function research on coronaviruses were the first ones infected with cov2. No one else in the city but people working AT that lab got covid first.
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@gorydetails No that is not proof. In fact, the index case AKA patient zero is theorized to be infected between October and November 2019 and to my knowledge the earliest identified person we have is a 55 year old man that got infected on November 17th.
The allegation that those 3 scientists are patient zero is both absurd and something that I have not actually seen any evidence for. But even if they DID get sick, they were definitely not patient zero.
So far I have given you the benefit of the doubt but quite frankly, enough is enough. Your sources sucks ass and I am done pretending that they are credible. Give me some actual proof for once, no more he said, she said. No more allegations. No more anecdotal nonsense, no more expecting me to fill in your gaps. Evidence can stand up to scrutiny on their own, all you have to do is ACTUALLY provide them. - +1 y
lmao, my sources are a hell of a lot better than your bullshit.
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@gorydetails That is literally a news paper article and it starts with "The virus that drove the Covid-19 pandemic most likely emerged from a laboratory leak but not as part of a weapons program"
Great job giving me "evidence" that Covid19 "most likely" emerged from a laboratory leak. What the hell am I supposed to do with such wishy washy allegations? Its worthless.
Also I know of this FBI document. In 2004, after one of these documents were improperly used to start a war in Iraq, they implemented a new system to grade these documents with a confidence level. Low, Moderate and High. The reason I dont particularly care about Moderate confidence in these reports is because for something to be graded as "moderate" it needs to be speculation working from incomplete data. It is not an accurate assessment of reality but the current best guess. I personally dont need the FBI making guesses for me.
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I’ve given you proof. You can continue to believe BS if you want.
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I'm going to ask you to use your imagination here, because it requires you to have women that love you. So you're at the beach at a beach house. Your wife is angry because there's sand everywhere on the floor. You're trying to figure out how it got there. What makes more logical sense? It was your three kids who were playing at the beach? Or a random seagull carrying sand, despite you not being able to find any other seagull carrying sand?
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@gorydetails Again, if you are going to make arguments based on what is more likely then you are just shooting yourself in the foot. Covid19 has fare more likely origins in nature than it does in a lab. It is the lab escape theory that would be the seagull carrying sand option in your example.
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No, the lab escape theory would be the kids being at the beach - where the sand is.
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@gorydetails As opposed to outside the lab where all the people and viruses are? Let me remind you, even if the lab escape conspiracy is true the virus would still have been sampled from a cave nearby. It is you who is making the argument that it somehow becomes more credible that the virus first is sampled from the cave and then escapes from the lab as opposed to just.. you know.. gets transmitted from the cave in the first place.
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You've never heard about biological weapons?
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@gorydetails Yes, and those are like the polar opposites of highly virulent, furthermore they are designed to not mutate. Why? Because you dont want your precious biological weapon to spread outside the scope in which you want to use it and you dont want it to mutate into having traits you did not want for it to have. The number 1 concern with biological weapons is your control over their deployment and covid19 is like the posterchild of uncontrollable. Making a biological weapon like Covid19 is like the most retarded thing ever.
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@gorydetails So now you are abandoning your failed biological weapons argument and jumping at the pharma industry and whatnot? How desperate can you be? Putting aside how your claims are full of crap, you were supposed to prove to me that Covid19 came from a lab, presumably by pointing towards something inside it which is artificial and could not occur in nature.
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I told you everything. You just pretend that it didn't happen. You asked why someone would make a virus more virulent and I explained why.
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@gorydetails If by everything you meant that you have told me all of nothing then you would be correct. And again, you can't sway me with such a stupid argument such as a country wanting to make a more virulent biological weapon. As I have pointed out, that is literally the opposite of what we would want in a biological weapon.
A biological weapon should kill faster than it spreads so that it never develops into a pandemic and instead burns itself out before becoming a problem for your own side. Its all about the ability to control when and where the virus strikes as well as where it stops. - +1 y
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@Soteris It absolutely requires evidence. Because I've shown you that the people working in the lab were the first ones who contracted the virus. You're the one claiming that some random animal is the only one to have cov2 and that one random animal was coincidentally the one that was in the wet market.
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@gorydetails You did not show me that the people working at the lab were the first ones who contracted the virus. You showed some random news paper article that claimed that when I got actual proof of someone being infected before then and also I lack corroborating proof that these 3 people were infected when you said they were.
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@gorydetails Congratulations. You now realized how a small community of a few hundred people might have been infected with covid19 long before the rest of the world and not directly spread it to the rest of humanity.
Furthermore, are you aware of exponential growth? Something that might be difficult and slow at the start can increase exponentially as it grows in number, kind of like a pandemic. - +1 y
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@gorydetails Maybe it did end there only to try again later a few times? In fact, the people living around that cave probably had excellent immunity against covid19 because they and their ancestors had been infected over and over again by different versions of it over time. The breakthrough could have been someone just going there to visit and then going back home.
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Right and that never happened before 2019. lol.
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@gorydetails Pretty sure that lab has incidents every few years so its not particularly strange for two things to line up. Also, its not like they just started researching coronaviruses there, it has been one of their main points of study since the beginning because of their location and the proximity to for example that cave.
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@Soteris So to your brain, a huge coincidence is a coronavirus lab doing illegal gain-of-function research with known safety protocol issues (by your own account) where three employees were the first to come down with covid-19 symptoms, but a small coincidence is that an animal carried a cov-2 virus never before or since the pandemic began somehow infected a dude living in rural china who didn't get anyone sick in 2019 but somehow enough people kept getting sick (but not quite enough people for any kind of exponential growth of a pandemic) until they happened to go to wuhan where the virus spread.
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@gorydetails Wtf? "Illegal gain-of-function research". First of all, illegal according to whom? Secondly, if they performed gain-of-function research or not is dependent on by whos definition of gain-of-function you ask and lastly, I am not even against gain-of-function research since I find that to be an integral part of fighting against diseases.
As for the wuhan lab, i am not sure they in particular have suffered a lab leak, others have. Furthermore, those three employees were not the first ones to come down with symptoms of covid19, its not even clear that they got sick in the first place.
The viruses sampled in the cave in 2013 was very similar to covid19, something like 96% identical and having a bat virus transmit to a different animal and then to humans is a well established and fairly common thing. In 2003 a coronavirus jumped to civets and racoon dogs and then to humans and started a pandemic, you would know this by the name SARS. Later in 2012 there was another bat coronavirus outbreak that infected camels and then into humans that you will know as MERS.
These things happens very frequently so why is covid19 jumping from bats to pangolins to humans so strange to you? There is literally historical precedent for this. - +1 y
Wait, now it's 2013 that covid-19 was around but NO PANDEMIC for 10 years? You're out of your mind.
The US outlawed gain of function research, then Fauci funded it at the wuhan lab behind the president's back. Which is why he needs to be publicly hung and then have his corpse drug by a horse through the streets. - +1 y
@gorydetails What part of MERS do you not understand? Also, to my knowledge Fauci has not funded gain of function research. Not in USA and not in Wuhan labs. I also love the fact that you think breaking a funding PAUSE is worthy of being brutally killed and have your corpse desecrated by being dragged through the streets. You dont sound insane at all.
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Well, he has, and then lied about it to Congress. It was a ban, and he's got a lot more crimes on his head than breaking one rule.
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Of course it was a scam. Malthusians want us all dead. Zionist and Marxist literature was calling for a Holocaust of the West since a century before anyone had ever heard of the Austrian failed painter that started his own twisted experiments in it to promote Germanic neopaganism.
Of those two movements of pure dripping evil, America got in bed with one, while destroying the other without mercy, when the two camps were ready to grind each other to dust, so the world would be rid of both.
And since one of the two great camps of European evil was allowed to endure, it thanked the West the only way evil knows how: with backstabbing. Criminal organizations forming that would previously have been impossible. Each with their own slightly different ideological bent, but each one united around one common cause:
They want you dead. Period. And it doesn't matter that most of you did nothing to them. You don't possess certain pedigrees, or certain status of relevance to their bent, so you don't matter enough to be kept alive.
So for over a century, they and their puppet-ception of loons and useful idiots all the way down have been trying to kill you in every way possible.
And most want to abscond your wealth in every way possible while at it, because it only makes sense to profiteer off mass murder.
A health scam, like Gray Goo Cyborg Venom, is just one of many ways to kill millions, and get them to do it to themselves. While using the distraction to hide dirt on Epstein, to defend themselves from litigation for their sick and twisted sexual appetites, and lengthy tails of victims.
When you've made pawns of the US, UK, Australian, New Zealander, and Canadian governments, basically the entire English-speaking world, it becomes all too easy to have an army of foot soldiers and useful idiots to make all of one's sick dreams come true, while going to lengths to silence dissent that would have made Stalin gush with envy!
The 20th century gave us endless warnings. Yet, society reached for the Tide Pod.
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We have reached the point where a substantial fraction of people don't know how to decide what is and isn't real because there are "experts" on both sides of arguments and the underlying science is too complex for non-experts.
We are totally Fcked.
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Often the "blue" and "red" mainstream media say opposite things. Sometimes both are wrong so may be you are right. OTOH non-mainstream media is often completely wrong too.
I really don't see a solution. Things where I have some expertise I can judge for myself, but in other cases I have no idea. - +1 y
What source do you believe?
When you say the war is "bullshit" you mean the US / NATO involvement, rather than letting Russia conquer Ukraine?
5.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. You mean SARS-Cov-19 was a bio weapon created through gain of function research in a lab? Say it ain't so! I mean, that would be like an evil conspiracy or something. And everybody knows that only right wing conspiracy theorists believe in conspiracy theories. 😂
And were the "vaccines" created in conjunction with the bio weapon for the express purpose of making money once the bio weapon was released? Nah. That's crazy. LOL30 Reply- +1 y
All political parties will accuse each other all about COVID and when they came out to give the America people vaccines people were given the vaccine and came down with side effects and some came down with COVID virus, so something is wrong?
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It's easy to tell the truth my homie. Whatever the mainstream media narrative says that the corrupt politicians also follow? The complete opposite is true.
5.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. 1. If the evidence is indisputable, why don't all US government agencies agree?
2. If it did accidentally (or negligently) come from a lab, how is that different from it accidentally (or negligently) coming from a market?
Pro-tip: you don't release bio-weapons in your own country first.
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If they're all so corrupt, why do they disagree? Why do you think the ones that agree with you are the non-corrupt ones? (Why does the Department of Energy even have an opinion on the subject?)
Nobody knows for sure where it came from, it wouldn't hurt to regulate both possible sources better to reduce the chances of it happening again.
Here's what a couple of scientists that have directly worked on the problem said:
“It’s important to appreciate that we’ve lots of evidence for a natural origin for Sars-CoV-2, ie not just a single report but multiple lines of evidence which has steadily accumulated since 2020"
"“Two prior studies... demonstrate clearly using multiple lines of evidence that the pandemic emerged into the human population at least twice over an approximately two-week period at or immediately upstream of Huanan market in association with the live animal trade,”"
I don't know why you think the origin of the pandemic has any bearing on how the pandemic was handled. The Obama administration learned from the swine flu pandemic that the country wasn't properly prepared and made appropriate changes, the Trump administration ignored their advice and undid many of those changes (remember that?). - +1 y
By the way, what's the difference between this story and the almost identical one from 18 months ago? theintercept.com/.../
2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Eh, who cares where it came from. It was a grotesque overreaction to what was to all intents and purposes a bad flu.
Apparently the concept of cost benefit analysis seems to have also been elusive to these alleged boffins.
Whole thing was a lesson in how dangerously dumb and easily led the population is. It surpassed even my own low expectations for how thick even supposedly intelligent people are.
03 Reply18.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Yawn. You’re so fckin easy to click bait. Dore is milking this Wuhan lab more than Fox, who has moved on.
Worst Fauci did was lie about funding a lab potentially tied to a worldwide pandemic because idiots would go nuts. Bad but…true? If this were a real crime he’d be indicted. Pols lie constantly.
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Odd be me is a racist. So it’s easy for him to believe that those weird Chinese people fucked a pangolin which gave us covid. Despite no one ever being able to find more pangolins with covid 19
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@gorydetails pangolins. That’s a big word for you. Im proud. Im guessing some experts think the wet markets selling pangers could still be the source?
@Juxtapose and the DOJ is prosecuting Hunter. Right now he has a gun violation and drugs crimes. Any others? - +1 y
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At least Jimmy is pointing out the corruption on both sides. Establishing for those who do not think there is essentially a shadow government solid facts.
I think it’s important to go article by article, newscast by newscast to lay out clearly exactly the nature and depth of the corruption that’s going on.
Jimmy does just that and points out each lie along the way so we can all see how untrustworthy our government, and news is. - +1 y
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@Exterminatore so politics is so far right that right wing is now center.
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@Juxtapose I love that if it’s lefty is TDS. If it’s Fauci, it’s current and dangouers conspiracy still…years later. Lol
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2.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. The fact that the COVID jabs were created BEFORE the virus itself was created, and was deliberately released from the Wuhan lab, should speak volumes about the wickedness of this whole plan
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Fauci needs to be hung, then his corpse dragged through the streets.
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I knew it was a scam from the beginning. Biden said he wouldn't mandate the shot, but as always, he is and was a liar.
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Dude, after all these years you are still here posting youtube videos over vaccines.
Wow. . .
00 Reply 925 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. More conspiracy theory stuff. It is getting old
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I agree with Jimmy here as I do on many things.
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He's a grifter.
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They were pro vaccine. As for TYT--I stopped watching them I agreed with them on most things but I was being turned off by their lies about Weed and the final straw was when they prompted up the man who burned the Bible and yelled "hail, Satan".
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