Is rap music causing the culture of crime in black neighborhoods or is it responding to it?

[OddBeMe]

I’ve always held there’s no real evidence of violent video games causing people to become killers.
Which was a huuuuge research thing back after Columbine. Because the shooters loved Doom. Which now is so fckin tame compared to today where machine-gun-chainsaws are used on zombies… lol.

But I did just watch young girls dance to rap lyrics “slap the bitch, get her on her knees” which appeared in my pinterest feed amongst countertops and camera lenses…lol. And it did make me think, they’re a bit too young for that shit. But idk…

And above could be commentary on gangsters versus family as he’s holding a baby. Which is profound. Certainly that was a popular trope during our mafia movie obsession.

So I don’t know…

Yes rap is a cause of crime

No, it’s just responding to the culture

Other

[D_Bone_Steak]

I've held this position since 1993... it affects white boys too which was freaking irritating to deal with. This is what happens... they start to idolize it so much and emulate it to the point that the white boy is basically acting like an under-60 IQ retard.

Little do they know they're just listening to a dude talking shit. But you take a teenage kid listening to bullshit on the regular as if it's God's word... guess what you end up with.

[inhua]

it's not the music but the success of the music artists that encourages crime culture in black neighborhoods

if these rappers were only broke losers living in a cardboard box, nobody would care but these rappers are wealthy while banging multiple women at the same time so it's understandable why crime culture is such a draw in such communities

[OddBeMe]

you sound jealous

[inhua]

jealous of what? crime?

[OddBeMe]

black rappers fucking white girls.

[inhua]

I don't care. more power to them. only they will reap the consequences of their actions

[Anonymous]

I think it plays a part in crime. I mean by singing about crime you're glorifying it making it look cool 😎

[OddBeMe]

sure, but I just killed 30 cops in Grand Theft Auto. And I have absolutely no urge to do that in real life.

Smack a prostitute? sure.

[Opinion Owner]

@oddbeme I don't think people with common sense would bring gta to life just by playing it at home however common sense isn't so common anymore and it wouldn't surprise me if someone did get the idea from playing gta, music etc.

[OddBeMe]

I mean I won’t lie and say inspiration and influence doesn’t come from media. But it’s like alcohol. You have to have the capacity to kill or rob. That’s antisocial personality disorder.

Now a lot of factors go into that, mostly poverty. But also family abuse, etc. Does a school shooter dress up like a Quentin Tarantino character? Sure. But I don’t blame QT for that.

[disgustingweebtrash]

It is not entirely incorrect that videogames/rap glorify violence.
I would in some ways say rap is more dangerous, because rappers are figures for young people to look up to when they listen to music, people like to emulate people they look up to. A good rap song that sort of covers this example is "Dance with the Devil" a song about a young guy called Billy who just wanted to be a major with diamonds and bitches, but he never had it in him in the first place, what was his fantasies was entirely different from what his reality was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo

[Juxtapose]

It's not rap exclusively but there's something rotten to the core with black urban culture.

You don't see this shit happening with African immigrants such as Nigerians who actually integrate very well into the United States and don't blame whitey for everything.

[Grovermint]

It’s just one genre. How does it negatively affect an entire race of people and their culture?

I don’t get it. I would say this though…look up the word “subcultures” and perhaps it will make sense. The rap/Hip Hop culture is a subculture and not the main culture because there are too many genres of music associated with black people.

[Staximus]

It glamorizes the criminal lifestyle. That communicates a message to young impressionable people that this is an acceptable lifestyle, and not a one way ticket to being a cash cow for the prison for profit industry.

[OddBeMe]

did mafia movies do that in the 50, 60 and 70s?

[Staximus]

They both glamorize the criminal lifestyle, but anybody can go buy a gutter gun and go be a low level criminal. You have to be invited into the Mafia. Apples and oranges, pal.

[OddBeMe]

Not really…. Italian mafia La Cosa Nostra was racist as shit. But that was their only “requirement”.

[Staximus]

That's not how it works, smart guy. My aunt's family was Italian mafioso

[OddBeMe]

Oooh goombah over here. Thinks the mafia is better than MS13 or the Crypts. Nope. Gangbanger is a gangbanger. I like the godfather movies but let’s be real.

[Staximus]

There's a huge difference between organized crime and street gangs. Stop trying to speak on things you know nothing about, you're making a fool out of yourself.

[OddBeMe]

No there’s not ahole. And the crypts and bloods are way better organized than your italians, “who everyone knows are not even white people!”
https://youtu.be/-jaqg-NMz9A?si=VF_YNIDFAygFHH78

[Staximus]

It's crips retard, not crypts.

[OddBeMe]

Really? What’s that mean? I thought it was crypts like tombstones…. lol

[Staximus]

Wow you truly are speaking on shit you know nothing about. There are many different stories. Some said it was an acronym for "community revolution in progress". Others say it was for the original crip walk, which was the "pimp limp" or "cripple walk", which may have originated as an excuse for the cops to carry a cane to beat people with by pimps. Some say it had something to do with the pimp canes or "cripple sticks" some of them carried that they beat people with. Reports of people being assaulted by groups of cripples carrying canes were spread in the news. Supposedly Tookie said that's all bullshit in his book but I haven't read it yet.

[OddBeMe]

Mkay, glad you know. I just read the stats of their power in the hoods.

[Emilianorodríguez]

Both, but mainly responding to it, which doesn't really matter, since everyone is free to sing whatever they want.

[AngryCarl2]

Music doesn't cause people to commit crimes they wouldn't otherwise do. It just provides a soundtrack. In any case that is First Amendment shit.

[Snakeyes7]

It's the poverty. You'd think we would have solved that by now since it has almost been 60 years since the war on poverty.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No, that's a excuse. In Haiti they don't listen to rap and they slaughter each other like animals.

[gorydetails]

It’s a symptom of a horrible culture.

[OddBeMe]

true, but shit kicking country music lying about crimeless small towns is dangerous too.

[gorydetails]

Are country music fans the ones looting stores in Cali?

[OddBeMe]

Apparently country music fans are domestic abusers and family annihilators. Whatever else goes on in small towns. Where per capita crime is the same if not more than Chicago.

[gorydetails]

What's the fatherless rate in the black community?

[OddBeMe]

Just living together Vs running out? Not sure.
www.pewresearch.org/.../

[gorydetails]

I can take a guess. Coincidentally that’s one of the pillars of getting out of poverty - getting married before having children.

[NotTacocaT6969]

It’s not the cause, only an effect.

[riverrat3]

I would guess it does not help any either

[DarkLegacy]

It glorifies crime so yes

[Anonymous]

It's both.